1. There aren’t many attractive women. Most are sloppy, ugly, fat, and don’t care about looking good for men.

“DC has a lot of over-educated white girls who could stand to lose 20 lbs. They have decidedly average faces. Said women believe that their education level and wack governmentalish type job makes them more of a catch than looking photogenic and being feminine… ” #

“I remember my first year here when it was not unusual to go to bars or clubs and see a good ratio of attractive women to men. Unfortunately things have changed drastically. Even the few girls that are out… a lot of them are unattractive. A few of the attractive girls I have smashed have also told me they thought the women here were mostly ugly. This creates a problem for single men. The pool of attractive women is a lot smaller here then it is in LA/NYC or Miami.” #

“There’s a map that claims that there is a higher proportion of single women to men in the DC area. But it doesn’t take into account that a lot of women don’t really take care of themselves like they do out west. Most of the girls that move out here don’t come to pursue modeling careers. It’s also cold half of the year. Not as much pressure to stay in shape.” #

“The only chicks who move to DC seem to be chubby, pasty white girls who have grad degrees in Poly Sci or Public Relations (or some other bullshit) and want to work in a gubbymint job or for a non-profit.” #

“Go out to a bar in DC this weekend. The few girls that you even see out will put very little effort into their dress. Is it so hard to put on makeup and high heels at least? I guess they can get away with it because there is very little competition here.” #

2. The city has boring, cookie-cutter people.

“The problem with DC is the majority of industries it caters to have boring, lackluster people (law and government). Government workers are the laziest, blandest, most depressing, least passionate people around and that becomes somewhat contagious. They go through the motions and count the days to retirement but they enjoy the security of a government job. The other problem is 3/4 of the city is off-limits if you aren’t looking to get shot and robbed.” #

“It’s pretty conformist, bourgeois and relatively upscale. If your goal is simply to have a stable, upper-middle class lifestyle and you are fairly conservative, it may be the city for you. It’s more for people who work, want to unwind on the weekends and mostly seem to have steady girlfriends or maybe date around somewhat. However, DC does seem to weed out the extremes of society including real creative energy and excitement.” #

“DC has always drawn lots of consultants who come here with job offers directly out of college with the Booz Allen, Accenture, and PWC’s of the world. Sure, some of them are hot, but it’s more the homely academic type. You also get a lot of the khaki-wearing men who put the girls on a pedestal, giving them an increasing sense of self-worth. It’s kind of funny… last time I was in LA at the beach area and saw several smokin hot chicks with guys who had the emo band look, tight jeans, crazy hair, etc. That’s something you rarely if ever see here.” #

3. Regardless of what surveys or Census figures say, Washington DC is the biggest sausagefest on the Eastern seaboard. This is obvious to anyone who has been out on a Saturday night.

“My sister just moved from NYC last year and really hated it, primarily because she felt like she was surrounded by government drones with no personality, but when she found out she could go out to a bar with 5 dollars in her pocket and have guys buy her drinks all night, she quickly changed her mind.” #

4. It forces you to lower your standards and date low-quality girls you would’ve never previously considered.

“The amount of guys i know that married a DC girl is minimal, and those guys married down. I don’t know one guy from DC who is married to a girl from this area where I thought to myself ‘Wow, good for him, that’s a nice pull.’” #

5. The few girls who are pretty have princess attitudes because of all the attention they get from the surplus of desperate, horny men.

“You get a few hotties at some of the consulting companies (Accenture is pretty good about hiring hot chicks), but they’re in the overwhelming minority and benefit from a supply/demand issue. Also, the ones who are attractive and have grown up in the area are basically spoiled princesses who have been having their asses kissed their whole lives and have no concept of reality.” #

6. The city is rapidly exporting cool, attractive people while importing ugly political nerds from the Midwest or upstate New York who insist on wearing flip-flops all the time.

“I went down there with a buddy this past summer for 3-4 days and hopped from Dupont, Adams Morgan, and U Street. We hit the happy hour spots on a Thurs/Friday. Nothing. Whatever talent I remember DC having has left.” #

“Does anybody remember south of dupont back in 07/08? Sooo many chicks just walking around. I remember the first time I went to Play lounge (midtown) back then. The place was packed with women. Then you’d step outside and the sidewalks had girls coming out of 1223. 1223 is gone and now it’s called Dirty Martini and it’s not even a club anymore. Heck even Lucky Bar used to be great. That place was like shooting fish in barrel.

“Now it’s terrible (low quality and a sausagefest)… I was at Public and Rumors last weekend and it was such a sausage party. Do you remember the Park at 14th back in 08/09? Two years ago I went to their international night and it was four floors of model-looking chicks of every race. It used to be diverse and high quality. Now it’s ghetto as hell. Recently an NFL player got stabbed outside of there. Even during the day and after work Dupont used to have a lot of hot girls walking around. Now it’s a lot less. Not sure what happened. I’m glad I’m not the only one who has noticed.” #

7. There aren’t enough cute white girls for white men who don’t want to date minorities.

“Without sounding like a racist, this is what is killing DC nightlife for me. I’m a white dude and I like white girls with a few exceptions here and there. The demographics of this area have shifted dramatically where there are so many Asians, Middle Easterns, blacks, and Hispanics that 1/5 of the girls out that night are actually white (and that doesn’t mean they are slim or attractive or single). Because so many people work for the government some way or another and make decent money, there is no income segregation and all the races party at the same places. There is a shortage of white girls and girls from Latin American countries like Brazil or Argentina.” #

“I think last time I was at Modern I felt like I was in Asia.” #

8. Women who live in DC gradually become status whores, obsessed with what you do and if you’re getting a table at the newest club on K Street.

“A ton of status whoring, fake people, degree chasers, one uppers, the ‘I care less than you do’ crowd.” #

“First conversation starter is always “What’s your job?” Lame just lame.” #

“DC women are very superficial… they are sizing you up to see how you can benefit them and their career. People live to work in this city… they all will have law degree’s, mba’s or some silly phd and they will make sure that’s the first thing you know about them. They’re gonna be looking at your clothes, car, and all the other dumb shit they use to measure you.” #

“Just about every 6+ chick found in a DC bar/club thinks she’s a 10 and has her 24-7 bitch shield up. Shoot, I am a white dude who works out constantly (9% body fat only), dresses sharp and makes it a point to always smile (I have nice teeth), yet the number of times girls give me the eye roll here is unreal! Sometimes, I dream of being a tall celebrity cat as that seems to be about the only foolproof method of getting GOOD-LOOKING women in DC.” #

9. Recent implants have sucked all the character out of neighborhoods by supporting soulless corporate chains. Soon the only stores in the city will be Starbucks, Potbelly, Chipotle, or cupcake shops.

“Neighborhoods filled with culture and diversity are being dissolved and turned into breeding grounds for kids trying to slum it with the safety of a Whole Foods in the vicinity.” #

10. Adams Morgan turns into an open-air ghetto on weekend nights during the summer. You can’t walk around after last call without wannabe thugs making derogatory comments at your girl.

11. There are not as many young and nubile au-pairs coming into the city as before.

“I’ve also noticed that the au-pair market has shrunk. I dated some au-pairs back in ’05-06 and although it was transient, at least I wasn’t lonely. But that avenue seems very diminished now.” #

“Cosign on the decreased au pair sightings. They used to be dime a dozen five years ago. There are so few that the fat Polish girl who would get no love back in her hometown is getting approached 20 times a night in DC. I knew a mediocre Brazilian girl (a 5) come to DC and tell me how amazing it is that guys offer to buy her drinks and take her for rides on boats (Georgetown). She loved the city of course. Back in Brazil she was a nobody.” #

12. It’s one of the most expensive cities to live in the United States , yet the girls are bottom of the barrel and still expect to be treated like NYC models.

13. The subway system is managed by retards, resulting in a high loss of life for a public transportation system in a first world city.

14. The weather sucks. It’s an intolerable swamp in the summer and cold enough in the winter that most women hibernate with their vibrators.

15. The HIV rate is the highest in America, exceeding that of many African nations.

In conclusion, Washington DC fucking sucks. I feel sorry for your dick if you live there.

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A little hyperbole perhaps?

I think it all depends on the set you move with.

If you have contacts/friends who work at international orgs like the IMF, World Bank, etc, there are some hot international women who are quite clever and very datable.

Sure, compared to Spain or Brazil, DC is shit. But it is not nearly as bad as most of the USA.

Sounds like it sucks for your Average Joe.
But I’m guessing if you’re a student at Georgetown or have a high paying/status job with good friends the outlook would be somewhat different.

I’m glad I don’t live there though!

I wonder why Christopher Hitchens moved from NYC to Washington? Must have had a reason.

I can only think of very few American cities I could live in .
San diego
NYC
Miami Beach

Of course it’s only based on cities I’ve visited.
European cities just seem better for people who don’t want to drive everywhere.

One of the reasons that it’s sucked more as of late is the economy. Internships have disappeared, and kept away plenty of women during the summer. People have cut back on au-pair spending. A decent economic recovery would (presumably) provide WMATA with more cash for maintenance and investment. People could then afford to eat at the local places instead of opting for the dollar menu. People could then afford to eat healthier and at least pay for a gym membership. Hell, even spend more money on beauty products. The boring lawyers would look for more jobs in NYC than in DC, as the financial crisis has hobbled the financial sector. I’d have more money to visit other cities. A broad economic recovery wouldn’t make DC a decent city for getting women, but any improvement would be appreciated.

(This comment has been forwarded to Congress).

Ditto and ditto. Amazing how many incredulous looks one gets if you ask “What do you do… Outside of work?”. I could care less what a girl does for work as long as she’s cute and refined and pleases me. DC has become a pansy gentrified ‘safe’ city… Which will soon collapse when the G’ment starts to severly cut back and/or goes bankrupt.

The only solace I get is that when I leave this steamy swamp that it will seem almost effortless to pick up in other major cities such as Boston.

DUde there are plenty of hot chicks in DC. Maybe the spots have changed and you need to try new methods? Im sure going to the most popular spots is always a sausage fest anywhere in the country – ok maybe not Cali :-) DC seems to be packed with hot girls during the day … not sure where they go at night hahahha

On the bright side, if you can game here, you could probably do it anywhere. But is it worth it?

Unfortunately flip flops are not just a DC phenomenon. That disgusting epidemic has infected the whole country.

Over the last 2 years I had considered relocating to the DC area. After visiting DC a few times I disliked DC and also with the comments on this site I decided not to move to DC. DC has a stressful, no-fun vibe. Probably any U.S. city is better than DC for PU. What U.S. cities are good for PU? There is some college towns in the South and West (where it’s warmer) that are more fun and have girls out year round.

“Sure, compared to Spain or Brazil, DC is shit. But it is not nearly as bad as most of the USA.”

Sure but most of the USA is an unbelievable hell hole that should be shut down immediately.

It is pretty amazing. I happen to be in a stunningly beautiful Spanish beach town at the moment. It really puts almost any comparable stretch of California coast to shame.

But more importantly, the amount of attractive women is pretty mindblowing. And this place is not high profile at all. Pretty much only Spanish tourists.

“On the bright side, if you can game here, you could probably do it anywhere. But is it worth it?”

Honestly, no.

You should get the hell out. The “if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere” reasoning only works in A-grade cities ie NYC, Paris, Barcelona, etc.

DC just so happens to be a B-grade city. And a horrible B grade city at that. Maybe the worst.

Am I the only one that noticed Roosh constantly refers to himself as a white guy?

Baaaaah. And the sheep stay.

People will stay in shit no matter what you do to them. Like cows. Hey, uhm … we’re gonna take your money and, you know … “bail out” these dudes over here, mkay? Oh and don’t worry about this money printing. It’s just some ‘quantitative easing’, nothing to see here. And also, I’ll need you to stay late at work this week.

The chicks are fat BECAUSE THE GUYS WILL STILL FUCK THEM. The chicks aren’t the problem.

@ defguy (#10): yes you are.

NJ ain’t much better.

@def guy, I think you’re mistaken. Roosh is quoting a post from his forums that’s probably from a white guy.

LOL!

What isn’t diversity working out for you all? Shocking, it is. Must be very vibrant and exciting though. Nothing like getting robbed at 1am to get the ol’ blood flowing.

I haven’t read about any flash mobs in DC. Either there being covered up, or the Mexicans have kicked out all the blacks. I suppose if it gets too bad, you can find a majority white city without too many NAMs in it. Of course, wait long enough and all those will be gone too.

I used to live right across the street from that cupcake store in your picture. I banged a girl who lived in the apartment at the top of the stairs. Her sister lived there too and the first time I went over, I got her confused with her sister. Didn’t lose the bang, though.

@11.

yeah i agree. i guess that ties in with roosh’s previous post about man’s resistance to change.

i don’t know if it’s change s much as uncertainty.
like people would rather stay in a shithole they’re familiar with than take a shot and upheave to somewhere new and possibly better.

All the comments about DC can be applied to just about ANY MAJOR US CITY. It’s merely a reflection of the US.

Cities like NYC, LA, or Miami Beach only SEEM better because they attract a disproportionate amount of actresses and models. Lots of eye candy, but for the average guy, those types are out of their reach and what is left are the DC-type fatties.

Granted, on the warmer areas of the west coast, the typical girl is a little less likely to be a fatty.

the same can be said about Houston,TX+San Antonio,TX.what fucking lard ass fugly cities those are.The only thing they know how to do is eat.

“Cities like NYC, LA, or Miami Beach only SEEM better because they attract a disproportionate amount of actresses and models. Lots of eye candy, but for the average guy, those types are out of their reach and what is left are the DC-type fatties.”

Good point.

If your Game sucks and you don’t come hard, NYC, LA, or Miami Beach are not going to be a magic bullet.

These places are pretty decent though if you bring the noize.

“Granted, on the warmer areas of the west coast, the typical girl is a little less likely to be a fatty.”

Haven’t been to DC in a while, but I can confirm that there are plenty of overweight girls in Southern California.

You still need to go to the right spots.

- MPM

growing up in LA,CA( I was a shy, always kept to myself type.) the One thing that can be said about La,CA is that if you have the emo or rocker look and you’re in a band you’ll be swimming with 8-10′s.my youngest brother who is in a band and has bee signed has never had problems pulling hot chicks,as a matter of fact,they come to him.that lucky bastard.

You know whats funny about the Ultra Bar picture is that everyone is dressed exactly the same, Black and navy blue shirts. The one guy who happened to wear the purple or lilac color shirt has got got 3 of the 5 broads in the venue around him. So anyone out there still doesn’t think styles important.

If you’re a black guy that likes black women, Dc is in the top 3 (ATL and NYC are in the top 2). And the 27-32 is a shooting gallery of chicks with phat asses looking for some semblance of Obama. I was swimming in pussy there. Perfectly degradable GS-11′s and Howard U chicks.

Now if you prefer white girls, sucks to be you.
Latinas are non existent, and Asian/Indian/Mediterranean are far and few between. I did bang out 2 Brazilians and a # of Eastern Euro chicks, but the average blonde haired, blue eyed, skinny chick that was the norm in Austin was non-existent in DC.

But fear not white guys, at least you can fuck Ethiopian chicks much easier than the avg black guy. Lord knows I tried to slide into some Habesha puss, with little success.

Dood, DC is like Detroit with even massive-er Federal subsidies.

It’s an African ghetto.

Why on earth would you choose to live there.

I just signed a one year lease to stay here. FML.

Ryu, get your white nationalist bullsh*t outta here. We’s talking about layin’ pipe

So you think you got it tough in DC???

You should try Silicon Valley a.k.a. Sausage Fest Central.

@13 – the ironbound neighborhood in newark is not too bad. it is often times the first stop for many brazilian immigrants. but beware, the girls often have tons of baggage (dirt poor; kids back home; immigration issues; involuntary sex and drug trade; etc), but straight stunners who embrace their femininity. i know, i sound like an opportunist. but like roosh says, “a notch is a notch.”

Definitely a bit of hyperbole in the quotes and comments here, I’d suggest reading all the way through the DC thread(s) in the forum to get a more complete picture. Of course, when it gets down to the get down, the place is still garbage.

Anonymous,

I like to check in every once in awhile and see where the crowd is. Pretty soon, even your guys won’t be able to talk about laying pipe without some talk on race. You’re just about there too – just look closely at the article and the comments.

Here’s some of my thoughts:

1. DC does have a lot of fairly ugly poly sci types, but DC also has a lot of hot women as well. Additionally lots of hot VA women and international women as well.

2. A large part of the problem esp on this board is the focus on DC nightlife, which does suck. I made a new forum post regarding DC Clubs’ Lack of Door Policies. It’s the lack of filtering that keeps away the hot women from local venues. But i always see them walking in the street or on the metro.

3. Live in Arlington and come into town via the metro. Lots of hot women in Arlington and lots of daygame opportunities.

4. Just forget night game in DC. It should only make a small percentage (25% or less) in your search for chicks.

People should take a look at the smaller city’s in Florida. I live in the Saint Petersburg/Tampa Bay area and the game here is not bad at all. Tons of hot girls who keep fit because of the weather and the beach. Most are dumb as shit and not LTR material but who really cares. Most guys have no game or run the bropack/ed hardy variation so if your game is tight you will have a huge advantage over just about anybody.

I live it down town st pete and it’s a shooting gallery every Friday and Saturday night with women packed into the clubs wearing short skirts and heels. If you can dance you have it made since the girl/guy ratio is solid.

Carmo-

I believe you. I went to Ft. Lauderdale for a few nights back in winter and I was amazed at the quality and lack of competition.

It was a joke compared to the Wessyde. Hell, I was even better looking than the token “good looking cat” in the bar.

The place is a cakewalk.

I have a full CA Game vs FL Game data sheet planned that should blow minds.

The main issue with “taking a look at the smaller city’s in Florida” is you Have To Go to the smaller cities in Florida.

Knee surgery sounds more fun than that.

Respect though. Play on.

- MPM

Awesome post!

These guys saying DC has a lot of “hot” women must fall into three camps:

1) They have very low standards from living too long in DC

OR

2) They are lying.

OR

3) They haven’t visited DC in a long time

I have visited DC recently, and the place is a wasteland.

For a city of its size, it must have one of the worst collections of women in the USA.

Roosh, stay in Eastern Europe. The girls there are practically ballerinas compared to the fat cows that live in DC.

Communicate with your family through Skype video calling during the holidays.

Don’t make the mistake of ever coming back.

“So you think you got it tough in DC???
You should try Silicon Valley a.k.a. Sausage Fest Central.”

Only autistic dudes wouldn’t be aware that Silicon Valley is a wasteland of cock. It’s a non-issue.

The point is that most people aren’t aware of what DC is like.

Those images look horrible.

God forbid to live in place like that lol

Silicon Valley sucks for going out, which is why guys with the time and cash head for San Francisco. As I travel to the Bay Area every few months, I constantly hear 20-something women complain about the lack of quality guys. They’re right – most guys there are gay or herbs. A guy with game will clean up.

Day game is the only viable game in DC. Walk around Georgetown on a Saturday (not the waterfront) and you’ll have to pick your jaw up off the ground from all the hot girls you’ll see. Hotties ride the Orange line out to Vienna too. You’ll never see them at night though. I agree with all the comments that say to frequent northern Virginia.

‘Only autistic dudes wouldn’t be aware that Silicon Valley is a wasteland of cock. It’s a non-issue.’

100% true. I used to visit my boys who worked there when I lived in SF. I stopped. I just couldn’t take it anymore. Man Jose.

There are many place far out in the middle of nowhere where the options are super limited and much worse than DC. I have a friend in DC who pulls 7′s and 8′s often, though he has that jock look which works for him there.

I am in Cleveland right now. Seems like a lot of people want to get out of here as the statistics point to, but the city has some nice spots. Lots of the single, lonely, hot women around. Every one of them has a kid though even if their in their early twenties.

what are some good cities then?

After you’ve been to Medellin….You are ruined forever!!

Jesus fucking christ…I’m staying the hell out of DC!

this is a great site and forum. except for the attention spent on DC, which everyone knows sucks. even if roosh is from there, i’d rather see an article from him on game, since those articles tend to be awesome.

Au pairs: You probably have great advice for landing them, and since I’m in an area where they’re still fairly common, your take on taking them would be invaluable. (Note to others: “Roll up looking like you fart Benjamins” is not useful information.)

Compared to Brazil or Poland and many other non-US/Canadian cities, of course DC sucks – it’s terrible. But compared to cities within the US and Canada, it may be bad, but there are places that are much worse – Denver and Toronto come immediately to mind – no girl has ever said to me in DC that her “friend” won’t even talk with guys under 6’3″ – and I don’t see top shelf guys forced to date down with girls who look like the Michellin Man. Some Southern/Bread Basket cities like Charlotte and DFW are probably better, but the idea that Boston is somehow better than DC is ridiculous. For guys who don’t have the resources to expat, it really doesn’t do them any favors to say that DC is the worst place to be.

It’s interesting to see how the Great Recession has impacted DC’s nightlife. Au Pairs disappearing is particularly telling.

One of the things I’ve wondered during the Great Recession is that girls simply cannot expect the free drinks/free cover like they used to and stay home as a result.

„One Picture is Worth Ten Thousand Words“

I run game in the suburbs (orange line in VA has talent) and use daygame. Union Station was nice the last time I was there. DC United games were great, but I haven’t gone to a game in like 2 years. DC nightlife stinks.

all points are true, though there’s something about the ‘if you can make it there’ thing. I’d never even get into game (in a bigger sense, as style and swagger, have little patience for PUA BS beyond basics) if I didn’t end up here.
Mainstream nightlife indeed does suck major ass, and I say it as a guy somewhat in the club scene, know DJ’s, promoters, can get in for free etc. More underground techno scene is a lot better but it’s more about drugs than sex. A ‘college’ bar is probably the best bet to pull strange for a night.
Sure agree on daytime in Georgetown, but for many reasons, like being hung over and likely still asleep on Saturday afternoon, don’t really do much of that, lolz.

beta_plus,

That’s really strange, I live and sarge exclusively in Toronto, while I cannot compare with other places, girls in Toronto really warm and friendly (I do purely day game) and this comes from the guy who is 34 and 5’6 tall.

I don’t have that much personal knowledge of DC, but I do know there are plenty of colleges – GW, American, GTown, etc. These colleges have undergrad and grad students, and the women must drink somewhere. So you might want to find where that is.

I live in NYC and it’s no picnic. Girls all have their bitch shields up, even the mediocre ones, maybe especially those, and they seem unwilling to meet guys who aren’t already part of their circle. It’s very cliquey.

Good post Roosh.

One of the best posts Roosh has made yet. DC sucks for women and is only okay to live in because of it’s great economy=jobs

Toronto is tough but at least we have hot girls, plus a 30 min car ride into the burbs and you are good.

DC has no appeal to me, passed through there once and that was enough.

What’s the point of bitching? If you’re in DC and your life sucks either do something to improve it or get out. Some of the things on this list don’t even make sense. How can DC be full of cookie-cutter people and have too many minorities at the same time? Sometimes the PUA/MRA-ospehere resembles some kind of bizarro Jezebel.

The truth about DC is that it’s not a great place to be an average dude. There are a lot of plain chicks with varying entitlement complexes and socially inept herbs who gives those chicks an even more inflated sense of their worth. You know the solution? Don’t be the average dude. DC is the perfect place for variant of asshole game. Be aloof in a city of needy dudes. Be non-committal in a city of over-scheduled women. Be politically incorrect in a city of SWPLs. Be cocky in a city full of self-deprecating. Approach during the day. Flirt at every opportunity. Learn to dominate your social circles.

Also, if you’re not here doing something you really want to be doing, then you’re probably going to be miserable. Part of me is counting the days until I get out of DC, but I’m here because I love my job. There are plenty of career paths here that allow you to do something interesting while building status at the same time. Will you be able to walk into some K street club and be treated like a VIP? No, probably not, but every year a new crop of twenty-something girls come to this city interested in doing something. If you’ve made a name for yourself in that thing, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

ROFL @ comment 42

I agree with JR if you in a city you don’t like try to get the hell outta there!

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! (at the picture of the girls)

@32
I currently live and work at Clearwater Beach Florida and you are right.girls here just walk into our business in bikinis just about everyday here in the summer months and spring break like nothing and as far as the clubs out here,Ybor city in south Tampa used to be cool until wanna thug country ass niggas are have been making it a shitty place to club hop+party etc.but St.Pete Fl is aaight.Clearwater beach florida aint bad if you wana run Day Beach Game on these airheaded blondes out here.they are dumb as shit though
but I’ll let you judge for your self on what Ybor city in south Tampa has become:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkrfkSpJMBg&feature=related

Any place with a lot of blacks will necessarily have no hot chicks.

Anyway, San Francisco has a TON of hot women and very little competition for any guy with even a little Game. Other guys are either herby nerds, or if they are stylish they are gay.

While San Jose might be among the worst places to score hot chicks in the US, San Francisco is among the best.

Hey Roosh,
Cant wait til you release your Day Game Book, I’d love to compare some of your tactics against mine for fine tuning.Day Game for most of us “PUA’s” is where its at.Its nice to stack+convert a bunch of Day prospects into nite lays.

@60 Asian Beta

“San Francisco has a TON of hot women…”

You’re out of your fuckin’ mind. San Francisco is great if you’re into androgynous, feminist ultra-liberal hipster girls. You RARELY see anything above a 7 in SF.

Asian Beta -

“Any place with a lot of blacks will necessarily have no hot chicks.”

Obviously, you have never been to Atlanta.

Additionally, the black girls are probably one of the better things going there along with elite girls, college girls, au pairs and diplomats daughters.

—–

Also, I just noticed something is strange about that “Ultra Bar” club photo:

1. Almost nobody is drinking
2. Why is it so well lit?

I think this is some guy heavy event taking place there not a club night.

Either way, a great photo to make a point.

- MPM

@59 – Clearwater Beach just west of Tampa is/was pretty good. Spent some time there with family and used to pull all the time at the beach bars/clubs (day and night). Sex on the beach was a common occurrence. Because it’s a beach town, you do have to be in decent shape. The downside is that the chicks are dumb as rocks, and the entire scene has a stuck-in-the-early-90s vibe to it. The music depends on the bar/club. Beach bars ubiquitously play Jimmy Buffett, while the nightclubs play stuff from the early-2000s (and still think it’s cool). If I was a DJ, I’d clean up by bringing a bit more Miami and New York sound. The cops can be @ssholes, but if you’re cool, they’re cool.

@63

Yo G,

Every night I’m out in DC it feels like a guy heavy event is going on. LOL!

I used to pick up all the time in Arlington. If you want white girls go to one of the faux Irish bars in Arlington. The Four Courts by Court House Metro was my go-to place.

True, the girls are more likely to be 6s with a few 7s. But you will likely pull on a Saturday night as all the girls are drunk by the end of the night.

Last time I went (back in December 2010) there were more Asian girls than I remembered. That makes it doubly likely that you will pick up if you are a white guy with even some game.

@64
true on how they need to revamp clearwater beach bars a bit.I dont want to disrespect Rooshes post here by going off topic but I know the owner of one of the popular bars here and I know all his female bar tenders too.Ive half ass gamed them all even his 19 year old gf just as a head trip to see if me(a 38 year old had a chance) and they all showed interest which goes to show even mild Game works like a swiss clock here(these florida girls are DTF and are starved for good Game since like you said alot of dudes here have NO game whats so ever.but as far as the non-staff or girl that work on the beach, Id say tourist are better pulls for me. Nelly did a concert on the beach at a club we have here called shepards about 4 weeks ago.
It was ok except that every wanna be wigger thug showed up from the florida sticks trying to walk+talk black,being from LA,CA it was painful to watch.
As far as the Police on the beach,Yeah Im friends with a few and even know one who arrested a co-worker of mine who got caught selling cocaine on the beach.yeah he’s long since been fire but the cops out here in Tampa/Clearwater beach are your basic “good ole boy” country ahole dicks.
For the most part Anyone visting here+running good game will sweep and clean shop here.

@59,
Clearwater beach is alright althouth last few times ive been out there it was a scene right out of jersey shore filled with d-bags and tatooed up trashy women. A lot of people clean up in a scene like that but its not my deal. I prefer the bars and clubs downtown st pete as they have gotten much better the last few years and are drawing a lot more crowds since ybor is such a shithole and s tampa has been played out. Plus its where I live so its super easy to pull a girl home when you live a block away from the club.

haters gon’ hate

maybe you should go someplace other than The Reef

Ideally its good to live close to where one can Game there prey.I agree.
I hear you on the Douche bag + tatted trashy women here on the beach.I gotta check out downtown St.pete though because to be fare I havent been there in a while so I figure im gona hit it up soon.Channel side in Tampa isnt bad either.
this is old footage of Channelside but the genius who thought of doing this in the rain “PRICELESS”
its also a good example of what our Talent here in Tampa look like.or at least the caliber of bimbos I see on the beach are looking like.
I hardly see fatties here.Its really making it hard to move away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3fo83Srw8

Interesting to see so many plugs for the Tampa Bay area as I got so miserable of DC after the last 6 years that I just moved to South Tampa for something new. I stick out like crazy here in a sea of juiceheads and Jersey Shore types. It’s pretty cartoonish down here. I haven’t quite figured it out because it’s so different.

The girls are def hotter here. It’s not out of the ordinary to see a half a dozen 8s or 9s in a day here just jogging or being at the grocery store (yes, 9s). They’re everywhere. In DC it’s a bunch of frumpy, entitled fat chicks in sneakers with law degrees tacked to their foreheads. Here chicks approach me. That happened very little up there, but it’s thrown me off a little seeing how friendly they are down here when a lot of them are from NY.

@71 & 72.

I’m not going to say that Tampa/St Pete is all that great but if you can find your niche you can do quite well. Lived in N St Pete for 4 years and it was awful. Moved downtown a year ago and have been absolutely killing it. I dont fit in with the S Tampa juice head crowd so dtsp is a nice scene that’s been working great for me. There’s quite a bit of hipsters but overall people are more normal and down to earth than S Tampa. And the fact that there are tons of bars, and a handful of good clubs within a few blocks of my pad definitely helps out. I got tired of losing girls to logistics so I made the move to where it would be an easy transition from bar to bed.

If you make the trip downtown I would say that Friday is much better than Saturday and don’t bother coming out before 10-11pm. Push and vintage are your best bets as far as clubs go. But you can have a good time pretty much anywhere you go around the central ave area.

@72
I aint gona blow up Tampa etc..however yes, on the hottness.Even though I hate calling any chick hot for Game purposes or putting these sluts on a pedestal.I was doing some work in houston TX for a year prior and I was grossed out by all the Houston,Tx fatties out there, I mean you just have to witness that shit to believe it.so it was refreshing to come back here to Tampa/Clearwater beach florida.
alot of girls are from the northern states who come here(i dated the most beautiful girl from Minnesota once down here,she would be a stunner even in La,CA standards).and I guess,with all the competition with all other girls here they change their northern tudes to a more “Party time “I wana meet you vibe”It took a bit for me to adjust here too,Being from La,CA where social interaction can be,well…how can we say,”Ice cold”and “west coast nice” or what I like to call “passive aggressive” or Im reaching for my can of Mace,you’re scaring me vibe.
I invite anyone to visit down here and make their own judgements .so far,its kept my eyes and dick pretty busy.

Definitely a lot of juiceheads in the Tampa Bay area. They have daytime jobs are construction, landscaping, pool service, etc…. no white collar jobs. The local girls go for these guys in droves simply because they don’t know any better. Class and style go a long way. Just don’t have a “Northern” attitude.

Heavy push on Tampa.

What is the best hotel to stay? (best location to nightlife).

Price no object.

- MPM

Why not just call this post: “No girls will sleep with me” ???

Y’all are out of your mind. There are tons of super hot, super successful, super smart, super fun, super cool women in D.C. In fact, the truth about D.C. is that it’s a wasteland in terms of having acceptable, attractive, non-toolish dudes…most guys in D.C. are around a 4-5. If you aren’t getting game in D.C., and aren’t meeting great, attractive, cool women, it’s probably because either (1) YOU don’t have enough going for you to attract them and (2) try going to some other locations…Bethesda downtown, Old Town or Arlington, a different neighborhood in D.C. like Cleveland Park…something different than going to the same places over and over if you’re not finding what you’re looking for.

@75
G
I take it you’re from La,Ca like myself and we’re probably about the same age and maybe even haunted the same areas and beaches in so cal growing up there.However,
One thing I hated growing up in La,Ca was the”Hollywood” name dropper thing that everyone likes to do there but I guess Im gona name drop a guy I see come into our establishment once in a while and thats MR.George Steinbrenner,Owner of the New Yankees.He’s a nice fellow and stays at the Sand Pearl on Clearwater beach its 5 star and its is on the beach and part of it is luxury condos aswell i know a few clients who are millionaires who live there.Its where most of the people with money stay.a couple of years prior when the Superbowl was here in Tampa,Lil Wayne and Snoop dog,and a shit load of rapper and actors stayed at the Marriot in San key to avoid the paparazzi who thought they were all staying in tampa.I saw Cuba Gooding Jr on that weekend he’s a little taller than on screen about 6’2 my height but he was cool.
Ok enough on the name dropping bs.As far as nice hotels you got Don Cesar in St.pete 5 star, and another good one in Tampa is the Grand Hyatt. they also opened a new Hyatt on Clearwater beach like a year ago its right on the sand.If you want logistics and location to the beach its all pretty close driving distance around here unlike Los angeles,CA .Its a matter of what you want to do and be at.

Maybe if you got out of your mom’s basement, spent 5 minutes on the treadmill, or exposed your pasty skin to the light of day you would have the opportunity to meet some decent, attractive, or interesting people in DC.

Your desperate attempt to sound contentious or creative comes off as a sloppy Tucker Max wannabe. Take your hand out of your pants and do some thorough research next time you dirty hipster.

You are the scum of the earth. May god have pity on your soul.

“There are tons of super hot, super successful, super smart, super fun, super cool women in D.C.”

Hahahaha. no. There is nothing cool or fun about DC except maybe falling down the Exorcist stairs. When you’re 34 and still single with your awesome legislative counsel position, you’ll suddenly realize nobody is paying attention and your dick mileage has surpassed the distance from Earth to Neptune. I guess Roosh’s posts can’t keep the Jezebel skanks from peeking at what he’s up to.

And the haters have arrived in the building.

Fat Jezebel skanks, no doubt.

All the Haters STFU please….
I live in Toronto which is considered far better for girls.
Travelling abroad changes that perception. There are a lot of fatties in Toronto which skew the market and makes it harder for guys. Places like Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, South America and South East Asia have better looking women who are more agreeable.
IF you are a woman, you have no opinion on this subject. Men are the only ones who can see this from a mans perspective.

“DC women are very superficial”

How ironic.

Yes, totally on point. I could not be more tired of all the plain jane chicks in this city. That’s why I’m moving back to new york in 2 weeks….. peace bitches

Pretty much everyone in the world agrees that American women are shit, except for well…American women.

Roosh, you are not white, you stupid turk/persian.

Some guys don’t have the time to hang out and daygame which is becoming the foregone conclusion to adjusting to DC’s ills. Night game is more to the point and much faster to the bang if you only have a few hours a week to dedicate to pick up.

@45 beta_plus I would be careful about making dogmatic statements. Have you lived in both DC and Boston for over a year? I have. There’s a Boston writeup I left on the forum.

Lol to Bernie at @66. I pulled at Four Courts within an hour last year with some South American chick (still kicking myself for never ascertaining the flag) but tried another time, perhaps summer doldrums and seemed empty on a Sat. night. I’ll need to give this place another crack once I get back into town after Labor Day. Gua Rapo next door seems to get a mixture of some foreign looking hotties as well?

[...] One of the most misused terms of our time is racist. It’s a useless term because it’s only selective applied. Take Roosh’s latest post on why dating in D.C. sucks. [...]

Roosh, it’s pretty obvious you suffer from at least one, if not all of the following:

1. Your college sweetheart left you because you consistently drink too much and cannot perform.

2. You don’t know how to talk to women.

3. Your asian brides sponsored link checks cannot cover a real night out in the city. Rocking a flask at a bar near the Farragaut North station will not yield the results you desperately seek.

4. You’re ugly.

Personally, I live in New York. I travel to DC at least once a month. Am I happy I live in New York over DC? Yes. But if I lived in DC, I wouldn’t bitch about it. I’d step my game up and find good women.

This rant could have been funny, but there was too much bitching in it to actually enjoy.

Grow a pair, you lame.

I completely disagree.

I think DC is great for guys and terrible for women. Yes, many guys may approach girls but majority are barely a 3. And if they are better looking, usually means they don’t have an education or a good career. (Personal experience from living here for a year and going out every weekend, yet, I get approached much more often by models and business owners in CA and other states who treat/treated me very well. Yet here, even if I give a chance to a 5-6, which I do, each and every one of them usually messes it up by being an idiot.)

Without a doubt, there are many girls in DC that are good looking, smart, and nice. I meet a lot of them quite often. Anytime I go out, I see more good looking professional females then men. There is definitely a shortage of single, intelligent, good looking men.

And your picture of an Ultra bar is ridiculous– that’s an 18 and over club that NO ONE likes to go to. Horrible, horrible place, which is not representative of the city’s nightlife.

Seriously, stop complaining, your opinion of yourself is obviously inflated.

Dr. Guy is on the money.

Roosh makes a lot of good points, but, my 53- yes, 53 year old ex boss moved here from TX a few years back and he said its a man’s playground here. Sheer numbers of women V. men- men have it it made, especially if they have even a little game.

I lived in NYC myself. Tons of annoying Jews and huge gay population make it a lot more difficult, despite the obvious talent.

Maybe a slightly exaggerated description of DC, but for the most part it’s right on the money.

I invite anyone to go out in DC on a weekend night. The ratio isn’t as bad as in the particular pic that was posted, but there’s definitely a limited supply of women compared to how many men you’ll see, and most men struggle. Their looks and personality don’t really matter a whole lot because it’s a question of supply and demand, and the supply is just not there for the men.

There is no eye contact or flirting signals of any kind coming from women in DC, so that makes it even tougher for the men. Maybe DC women don’t know how to flirt or just aren’t interested in dating. Not sure.

For guys still in their mid-to-late 20s – move to a college town.

- Favourable gender ratio. Every college campus has a surplus of women. And contrary to the popular PUA meme, 20% of the dudes are NOT fucking 80% of the girls. Owing to the man shortage, many are single, lonely, and horny. The stats bear it out.
http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2010/09/14/hookinguprealities/sex-and-the-pareto-principle/

- Low Expectations. Girls’ expectations haven’t gone up yet. For college girls, a guy with a professional job, a car, and his own pad is high-status (beats screwing in a crowded dingy dorm or a shanty with 8 other kids right?) It’s only when they hit the real world in the big city that they get start adding to that 500 bullet-point checklist.

- Less competition. In the big city the competition is REAL top-dog alpha ballers, bankers, lawyers, and millionaire playboys. In a Podunk college town your competition is… Joe the Plumber and broke college kids. Most other small town guys your age are married or locked down in serious LTRs. Women are as choosy as their options. Big fish, small pond.

- Better reception to cold approaches. Girls in college towns are generally more receptive to random conversation from strangers as they’re not used to being accosted by homeless dudes, junkies, muggers, potential rapists, guys trying to sell shit, and just plain creeps.

- If you look young enough, you already have an “in.” College girls aren’t intimidated by being approached by a guy who looks like all the other guys at their college. Just don’t look too old or out of place.

- Better quantity and quality girls. Thousands of girls in their physical prime. Younger, hotter, tighter. Intelligent girls with ambition. Educated girls who stay in shape. Many still in their “experimental” phase.

If you’re a professional dude, look young, and live in a college town, day game should be a poon haven. Since moving here, I get more ass than any of my boys in the big city.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-5386.html

I was a student in DC in the late eighties to early nineties, and yeah, it was pretty much as described in the article, with the main difference being that D.C. had fewer Asian and Central American people in it back then. While LA has Hollywood to pull in actresses and New York has modeling to pull in models, DC has some seriously penis-heavy business sectors like DOD (dept of dudes) and related contract work, and that’s not going to pull in the hot Norwegian girl who dreams of making it big in America or the All-American (White) Girl from Montana.

On the other hand, hot women are always in demand, most women are not 10s or 9s or 8s or 7s, and most men will either settle for a woman at their level or end up alone. Always was that way, always will be that way. If you don’t like what you see in front of you, check out Craigslist. (That’s a joke. Craigslist in any city will make you asexual.)

Roosh,

You’re as sour on DC as I am on Philly. I went to the same college that you did and lived in the DC area for another 4 years after graduating, before the crappy economy drove me back to my hometown of Philadelphia. I don’t know if it is a “grass is greener” mentality but women in Philly are much worse looking than women in DC. You definitely did the right thing in getting out of there but no need to continually bash the city– it does have some positive points. Philly, on the other hand, has nothing going for it. Not only are the women busted here, but they’re brainless too.

I’ll be turning 28 in the next month and hopefully leaving town in the next 6 months. Hopefully, headed to NYC or Chicago. It is all about finding a city that fits you. For you DC is not the place, for me, Philly is not the place, but it is possible for people to be happy in these areas.

Keep globetrotting, my man. I enjoy the blog a bunch and have learned some great things, here.

How can you access Turntable if you’re in Poland?

[roosh: vpn]

Judging from that pic, the DC men aren’t too hot either. All slightly overweight and wearing clothes that I think their mum bought for them.
I can see why you like Poland though, I have worked with Polish waitresses and they are very sweet and hardworking.

It should be obvious from the latest comments that DC is full of girls who are neither as fun or as cute as they think they are and who think that their grad degree and “professional” job makes them a catch. So what?

The main difference between and bull market and a bear market is that even idiots can make money in a bull market. There is still plenty to be made in a bear market provided that you know it’s a bear market and you have the right investment strategy.

Any guy with decent game can bang 6s and 7s on the regular and score higher on occasion. Is that paradise? No, but it’s a living. And let’s ace it, for the average guy it ain’t bad.

I couldn’t agree with you more. I think you may know a friend of mine name Rory who lives in LA, he sent me this article. I lived in DC for 8 years before moving to LA. I used to defend it and think it was an awesome place to be single as a guy. DEF NOT the case, and I also noticed a huge dropoff in talent in the city.

Being that I’m black, let me help you out playboy. The reason you can’t find hot WGs is because us black dudes are banging them. This is still Chocolate City. Step your game up and stop crying or start banging other race of brawds.

Hey Roosh,

Couple of points I want to make.

1. You are from Maryland, USA (Since you don’t specify…I am going to assume you grew up outside the beltway.) This leads me to also assume, you are a little naive as to where you should be spending your time within DC (georgetown) or Arlington (orange line during the week). Don’t hate on a city when you are from small town USA. (But I will come back to this point.)

2. Roosh. You need to update your look. Immediately understand the phrase “When in Rome” I am sure the homeless look did you justice in South America, but here in DC you must attempt to shave, shower, and dress in more than a 12 year olds outfit. This means that lime green gear is out and brushing your hair is in. Oh, and your nephews pants that you have borrowed…those definitely go as well.

3. Be interesting, but be interested. Ever heard that of that saying? I am guessing you love to talk about yourself. I am also going to go out on the limb and guess that ditzy girls are enamored by your vapid stories hence your complete disdain and probably more likely insecurity for higher educated women. Know politics, understand what deficit means, and articulate your thoughts. This will help you not only with women, but also develop communication skills with other guy friends that may invite you out to the “right bar” one night.

4. Location, Location, Location. Remember how I said I would come back to this point. Well I am here. Modern? Ultra Bar? What do you expect when you visit these bars? Also scenes move here….just because a bar was hot 3 years ago does not mean it is hot today. (Adam’s Morgan neighborhood CASE POINT) We are not waiting around for you to finally figure it out. The picture you posted…well friend those guys are not the “hot DC girl” type so we avoid those bars as well. I think you need to develop better friends that invite you to the “right bars”. Shaving helps your game too…

5. Drop the sour attitude. Hot DC chicks don’t exactly “dig” the “victim” or “emo” guy or our 12 year old brother (but I think I have mentioned that already).

You need confidence, a new stylist, and a different scene. Best of Luck!

BRAVO. A little humility does wonders.

“understand what deficit mean”

I wept %) There’s your Washingtonian gal indeed, reddit whiteknights.

Evidence is not the plural of anecdote. It kills me to see all these armchair experts and the dumbass bro-talk about “game.”

Guys who aren’t getting it have a thousand theories, but you don’t hear shit from the guys who are getting it, cuz they don’t have the time to talk!

This could have easily been titled, “Why Princeton University Sucks” except I don’t think our aids rate is that high.

@Fireworks and @Toronto Fan Boys

Before I start, may I say that I’m also talking about guys who are either unaware of game or don’t have the resources to put it into full practice. If you’re game is top notch, even Toronto might not be so bad. Also, I am NOT trying to say that DC is a great place to be. Obviously, there are many better places. I’m just saying that there are places that are worse.

I’ve lived in Boston for 3 and Toronto for 5. I won’t say that Boston is extremely worse than DC, but it is worse. Now, if you factor in cost of living and pain-in-the-ass-factor of living in both cities, let’s call it a tie.

Toronto, OTOH, is a fucking disaster. It’s the worst large city in the English speaking world, unless you have world-class game. Tons of tall guys fighting over fat (not American fat, but still fat) masculinized women. Mystery, Savoy, Tyler Durden, … the list goes on of guys who not only got to the top of game BUT MADE IT TEACHABLE – ALL from Ontario. Yes, Ross Jeffries was the first, but his stuff is extremely difficult to follow and depends entirely on accepting how and not understanding WHY. Did these Ontario guys do it because they are just that awesome? NO. It’s because Ontario women are fucking impossible and 3′s think and can get 6’5″ guys no problem. Necessity is the mother of invention. FFS, it’s the city where the Slut Marches started from.

I can’t tell you how many times my friends from Ontario come down and are shocked at how much easier it is to meet women in DC. Note I said EASIER, NOT EASY – you want easy, buy the ticket to Warsaw or Sao Paulo and rent a car. DC’s still a struggle, but at least there’s hope.

Now, does Toronto have better night life than DC? Of course. It’s bars, nightclubs, restaurants, and popular culture leave DC in the dust. But if we’re just talking about the women, no. Toronto women are less fat, but that doesn’t mean they are NOT fat. When you defend Toronto, ask yourself honestly are you defending the women or the city nightlife in general. Plus, if a woman’s face is important to you, Ontario as a whole leaves a lot to be desired. 5 dreary fucking years there drove that into my skull, and the hired guns at all of the nightlife places hire don’t count. I was in an East Side Mario’s in the suburbs of Kingston and they found that hired guns work. I never see that here – in fact – the opposite.

Again, my final point is that there are cities worse than DC. I am NOT trying to say that DC is in anyway good by international standards.

G Manifesto,

Dude, you don’t have a clue about SF. You are going on stereotypes rather than direct experience.

Go to the better areas of SF (not Haight Ashbury which is what you are thinking of). Plenty of 9s all over. Tremendous daygame opportunities in the Marina, Union Street, North Beach, etc.

Thanks to the wonders of modern science there are hot chicks in every city, even places like Kansas City. LA is not even top 5, unless you like Koreans (not that there’s anything wrong with that!). Too many tubbies trying to make up for it with fake tans/bleached hair. Lots of good from far/far from good cougars. Plus LA is a shithole.

BTW, it’s easy to pull ass in Rio because there are lots of favela girls looking for a place to sleep. It’s not because you’re the man, it’s because they are poor and can’t afford a hotel. Not EXACTLY prostitutes.

And seriously, Ultra Bar? I hope nobody is buying this guy’s book.

@109 Asian Beta

SF does not have “plenty of 9s all over” anywhere, though if you’re from SF and haven’t been anywhere yourself, you may not know any better.

SF is in no way, shape or form on the level of LA, NY, Miami…or even Tempe or Austin for that matter.

Asian Beta -

When did I mention SF?

I dig SF, by the way. And have tons of connects there.

And yeah, I probably have spent two days of my entire life in The Haight. Never a night.

Get it straight before trying to make a move.

- MPM

my comment about showing proof that DC is not a sausage fest was promptly downvoted and ignored lol

Great post! haha

Roosh, homie, you are a complete tool. First of all, you are obviously out of the loop on the scene here in D.C. There is an abundance of intelligent, attractive, interesting, and fun women here. To be honest though, they aren’t likely much for the sex-tourist-douchebag type that you seem to be.

You said that you went looking for women at Rumors – the worst bar in D.C. C’mon dude ….did they not let you in anywhere else cause you were walking around town in shorts and flip-flops ??

You are really living up to that Urban Dictionary definition..

G Manifesto,

My mistake, it was #62 (speakeasy), not #63 (G Manifesto), that I was intending to respond to.

Interested Party,

What are you talking about? Go to any street fair on Union Street or North Beach. 9s all over.

And I have lived in LA too. LA, while better, is not so much better than the prime areas of LA (where foot traffic = easier daygame than LA).

*prime areas of SF.

In short, the best parts of SF are almost as good as LA, in terms of hotties.

In LA, the blonde hotties are vanishing and being replaced by squat Mexicans, for one thing.

This whole thread shows that the same place will get positive and negative reviews by different people.

This thread alone has people both extolling and slamming NY, LA, SF, Toronto, Texas, etc.

Yep, even NY and LA have negative reviews on this thread alone.

@Asian beta: no one cares what a gook thinks. Stfu

Sam,

Make me, faggot.

As a Beta, I am higher in the rankings than you (omega) are.

Asian Beta,

Aaaaaaaaaand you’re still a pussy-denied gook. I win.

-That white guy whose dick your gook sisters slobber over

Ethiopian chicks are everywhere in DC, but you’re better off trying to get head from a shark. They’re stingy with the bunz

115 pwedza
15 hours, 26 minutes ago
You said that you went looking for women at Rumors – the worst bar in D.C. C’mon dude ….did they not let you in anywhere else cause you were walking around town in shorts and flip-flops ??

116 Roosh
15 hours, 22 minutes ago
pwedza: Do you know what a quote is? Look it up in the dictionary, think about it, then look at my post again and tell me what you see a lot of. Dumb ass trying to hate when he can’t even read.

Roosh, Are you fucking telling me that you are quoting a bunch of friends? Are you also telling me that you have never set foot into Rumors to vouch what a terrible bar it is, yet you are reporting that quote “there are ugly women everywhere in DC because my friend the other day told me so…..see he can’t find them at Rumors!”

What a fucking joke. I was ticked at first because you seem rather lost in DC to make such a incorrect generalization, but you are much worse.

Again, get new friends or find better places to DJ.

Hot young tail’s what it’s all about =)

Oh, I can read. Here’s a quote for you: “Roosh – A poseur who thinks he’s a playa. Someone who is clueless about how unskilled he is at picking up girls.”

“Not as many young and nubile au-pairs” – that is your quote. …gimme a break dude. Go back to the third world where you can pretend to be somebody.

You know you have reached a touchy subject when a “educated, well traveled man” proclaims the following:

“Oh yeah, well you are probably ugly!”
“Ok, well at least I’m not fat.”
“All women are crazy.”

Roosh, love, you are grasping at straws when you call someone fat over the internet….on your forum much less.

I would expect a man of your calibur would not bat an eye at my challenge, and rather than channel elementary school remarks, I would expect something much wittier and composed…..similar to if we were at a bar chatting.

You are unraveling friend.
xoxo
$5 richer washingtonian gal

After reading this I really do not want to go out anywhere in DC just because of the way guys think about women.

I also wonder are all of the guys here – who posted bashful comments about girls in DC – 8s, 9s and 10s? You don’t see girls in night clubs because of your attitude. There’s no-one to look for there. Interactions with the guys of that kind make us girls shut down and not want to open up or be warm towards any guy.

I have a bunch of girlfriends who are gorgeous, put together, stylish, interesting, adventurous, and yes educated and successful (we should not feel guilty for our achievements), but we all prefer to stay at home rather than go and meet guys like the ones who posted negative comments here.

Be interesting and have a good personality, then you will have a better luck.

PS: if you do want to respond to my post please respond constructively, it’s easy to call someone fat and ugly and turn the discussion onto a quarrel.

So this means there will not be an ebook titled “BANG The DISTRICT of Columbia” then.

Asian poon is just as good if not better than white girl poon. Who cares as long as they’re putting out. Asian women are known to have tighter plumbing anyway. You can’t lose.

@133 Shallow Hal:

Some of us don’t want to have sex with women with bodies like 12 year old boys. And Asian women just can’t be sexy in the same way that a white/Brasilian etc. woman can be. Their eyes are too dead

There is no reason for beautiful women to move to DC. No beach. No modeling agencies. No entertainment industry…Terrible weather. So where are these beautiful/smart women coming here to do? To work for a non profit? Yea right.
Wake up from your trance! DC SUCKS!

You wont find this in DC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL0gdsTB4Nc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4MJ6ZApCkM

Notice how all the Jezebel pigs are saying that there are plenty of “fun, intelligent women with good careers” in DC?

They really do think having a good job and a “sense of humor” will make up for their being 220 lbs and wearing flip-flops.

To be honest a lot of yall is suspect. I was just on a forum and cat’s rated Jen Sterger and her girls 5′s and 6′s

http://smokingpot.org/wp-content/gallery/amigas_gostosas/jenn_sterger_5.jpg

^^^yet they wouldn’t post pics of the “quality” they pull, truth is a lot of pua posters are undercover homos

I used to live there back in 2006-2007. You are totally right. I’m glad I’m a married woman. You forgot to mention that most men are stupid and ugly over there….

Well it’s sad but it is kind of true. One thing roosh missed though is that a lot of the government workers live in the surrounding cities. In dc most people are lawyers, which leads to a lot of the unnapealing women. I also take the shitty public transit every day and I can vouch for the fact that it sucks. There are always failures and it’s expensive. As for the fact that there arent cute white girls, that is completely true. This city is filled with minorities. Every where you go you will probably see a fat, shirt haired black woman talking loudly on her cellphone. Pretty much all of what roosh said is true. I have lived there for my whole childhood and I know.

This is happening all over the country!

You stupid ignorant racist white men have to share your women with us now!

“I have a bunch of girlfriends who are gorgeous, put together, stylish, interesting, adventurous, and yes educated and successful (we should not feel guilty for our achievements), but we all prefer to stay at home rather than go and meet guys like the ones who posted negative comments here. ”

If your friends were so great, they’d have a man instead of eating ice cream and watching lifetime every night. Every woman seems to think her friends are ALL hot, smart, and fun. The vast majority of your friends are not remotely hot or fun, or they’d be married already.

Christ ,a lot of people with poor views of this city!
It’s got to be worth a tourist visit for the sightseeing…or not?

To the author: Dude, from the tone of your a article you’re quiet obviously an ignorant, misogynistic asshole. Probably pretty lonely, too. Wish you the best in life…hope you eventually see your ignorance and misogyny for what it is.

Funny people say this happened 2-3 years ago. of course! liberals were swept into power, and who did they bring to DC? a bunch of ball busting feminists. duh… fugliest of the fugly. with bad attitudes. they’re mean and ugly!

“I have a bunch of girlfriends who are gorgeous, put together, stylish, interesting, adventurous, and yes educated and successful (we should not feel guilty for our achievements), but we all prefer to stay at home rather than go and meet guys like the ones who posted negative comments here. ”

This article is discussing DC in a social sense, not a worldly sense. Even if what you said is 100% true (doubt it) that means socially there STILL AREN’T ANY WOMEN LIKE THAT AROUND.

Sam,

Nope. You are an Omega, and it shows.

No one who comes to a Game blog with the sole purpose of picking e-fights with other men has gotten laid in years.

Clue #1 that you are an Omega : You don’t even know how to conceal your Omegatude.

Sam = Jealous Omega. Heh heh heh.

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As a California native who’s either lived in or spent a ton of time in every city in this state that matters, I have to agree with Asian Beta. San Francisco is by far the best city in California for gaming.

Yes, you’ll run into some 6′s and 7′s that think they’re 9′s, but you’ll find that in every city. Take a page out of G Manifesto’s playbook and stick and move. Between North Beach, Downtown, and Marin/Russian Hill you have literally 100′s of nightlife options all within 1-2 miles. And the competition is weak.

Yes, the quality of girls in LA is SLIGHTLY higher, but all the best action in that town in happening in the hills above Hollywood, NOT in the nightclubs. Unless you have serious connections or money good luck breaking into that scene. The rest of LA is a sprawled out dump.

While the quality

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The reason this blog post of Roosh’s is blowing up with haters is because the women in DC are generally in denial about their plight in life and don’t like it to pointed out to them. They should take off their rose-tinted glasses.

I grew up here, much like Roosh, and have lived inside the District for 4 years. Everything he says, I can confirm with my own two eyes. I also point these things out to my buddies, and they can confirm with their own two eyes that these things are true.

When American women, especially those in DC, stop acting so “me-centric”, put effort into looking good when out in public and start flirting harmlessly with the men in this city, then and only then will we see a change.

Oh and don’t try to argue that American women are lazy when it comes to working on their appearances. My European friends who live here complain all the time about the lack of fashion sense of American girls and even those that do look fashionable end up ruining their outfit by wearing flip-flops!

Men in this city (and country) deserve better.

Edit for the above: “don’t try to argue that American women are NOT lazy when it comes to working on their appearances.”

Someone that actually lives in D.C, I agree with some of it your points and some of it is funny but you just sound like an angry white guy.

No reason put race into it, I would hate D.C if its all the same race in the club everytime. The city nightlife is meant for people who like diversity. If you don’t like it because theres too many minorities now then go live in the country or in the woods. You don’t belong in the city life so move. If you want to only be around white people then stay in clarendon. Which I hang out there sometimes too FYI because I don’t care to judge people by there skin color when I’m out trying to have fun. You do sound like a racist and angry white guy, its pretty obvious you are having trouble in the girlfriend department.

Aiight so I’m a student at GW, I have to say I do agree with some points and not with others. Honestly I’m used to being able to wear a shirt some jeans and some shoes to s party and generally hook up with someone. In dc I have to wear either j. Crew or vineyard vines to any party. Bein a Midwest guy this is weird a d unecessary to me. Eithway I adapted. The obsession with cupcakes is effin ridiculous. However there are a few decent girls in dc. Or so I thought. I’ve been spending a lot of time at UW-Madison, and now remember how easy it was to find hot girls and get laid easily. My advice: dc is great for school, but I’m gettin out ss soon As I’m done.

Also sorry for bad grammar and spelling, iPad isn’t as easy to type on a it seems

Seriously? Just months ago, you were bragging that you live at home with your parents, being a grown assed man in your 30′s. You are a self described “loser” with a mattress on the floor of your parents basement. Despite all of that, the “game” you have get’s you more ass than you know what to do with. So you thank feminism for the whores that are desperate enough to sleep with such a “prize”? Now, you want to blame the city’s diversity on the reason why you aren’t attracting 9′s? Sir, take a whole seat in the corner and reassess your life. You attract what you put out there, so if all you attract are 5′s and 6′s, you are more than likely mediocre your damn self. 9′s and 10′s aren’t chasing down guys who want to party in tshirt and jeans. Get in where you fit in, my dear. When you become a 9 or 10 sir, then you can be choosey. Til then, friend, Get your stuff together.

The Washington Metro sucks. In fact their is a unsuckdcmetro blog about it. I don’t like the way the officials run the system. For example, I don’t like mixing the old and new cars in a trainset and their escalators are frequently breaking down. It’s been said the workers don’t care about Metro.

This article is a fair assessment, but I must say that it all depends on the guy’s perspective. Clearly, this guy is looking to party and get laid. He is not looking for a cultural or exotic experience. Depending on how old he is, I do agree with him somewhat. Partying and getting laid is essentially what a “major” city should offer to young adults: the excitement of the chase; more accurately, the chase of equals. However, one is living in the wrong city if one is looking for all that “excitement” in DC. His explanation of why there are so many average looking women in DC is spot on. It makes sense, and it makes sense that the pretty girls do go to the highest bidders. Why wouldn’t they? If the supply is low, the price goes up. It’s Economics 101. Going back to perspective, it is eminent that this guy has the perspective of a person who thinks because he’s good looking, he should be able to smash any dime at any time. I don’t blame him for this perspective as this works in cities like NY/Miami & LA. Unfortunately, a good amount of the “dimes” in DC aren’t sluts. They don’t have to be. In NY/LA, where there are so many dimes, dimes are a little more slutty because they never know the next time they’ll find/meet a regular guy who will show a decent amount of interest without him getting distracted the very next week by meeting another dime. In DC, dimes are rare, so you need to be a threat on all levels to pull one. You have to have the looks, “swag”, education, nice car, nice job, nice place & culture to be able to thrive in any club/establishment. You can’t just wear a Calvin Klein shirt, True Religion jeans, a degree, and a smile and think that you’re impressive. With this, you are average at best. Dudes with all the attributes that I listed earlier don’t have problems finding beautiful women in DC and they know better than to go to Adam’s Morgan to find them. Good luck in NY, buddy.

Who the F goes to Ultra Bar? Problem no.1 right there.

DC haters, go suck it. DC is the fittest city in the nation

http://www.shape.com/lifestyle/travel/fittest-cities-1-washington-dc

http://www.examiner.com/health-and-happiness-in-washington-dc/washington-dc-earns-title-of-america-s-fittest-city-2010

http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/21/fittest-cities-washington-lifestyle-health-exercise-obesity.html

@132
” “I would expect a man of your calibur”

Did you mean caliber? I know you proofread your comment so I’m surprised you missed that. Unfortunately I don’t waste my intellectual powers on anonymous haters. The best you’ll get from me is fatty, ugly, haggard, spinster, etc.

just a girl: pic?”

– you’ve shown what a weak person you are to put this kind of argument to someone. i can hardly agree with your thread. i mean, just re-read your comments.

147 Asian Beta
” Sam,

Nope. You are an Omega, and it shows.

No one who comes to a Game blog with the sole purpose of picking e-fights with other men has gotten laid in years.

Clue #1 that you are an Omega : You don’t even know how to conceal your Omegatude.

Sam = Jealous Omega. Heh heh heh”

– you’re talking about Mr. ‘Omega’ picking e-fights and here you are fighting back. you just put urself at his level so your statement will be reflected back to you.

144 Mike

“To the author: Dude, from the tone of your a article you’re quiet obviously an ignorant, misogynistic asshole. Probably pretty lonely, too. Wish you the best in life…hope you eventually see your ignorance and misogyny for what it is.”

– yes, from his article to his comments shows enough proof of everything youre saying. i agree with you.

153 GO MOVE THEN, you racist

“Someone that actually lives in D.C, I agree with some of it your points and some of it is funny but you just sound like an angry white guy.

No reason put race into it, I would hate D.C if its all the same race in the club everytime. The city nightlife is meant for people who like diversity. If you don’t like it because theres too many minorities now then go live in the country or in the woods. You don’t belong in the city life so move. If you want to only be around white people then stay in clarendon. Which I hang out there sometimes too FYI because I don’t care to judge people by there skin color when I’m out trying to have fun. You do sound like a racist and angry white guy, its pretty obvious you are having trouble in the girlfriend department.”

– im glad there are ppl like you. now this is how you get some.

Overall,
everyone should man up and have some class and patience. all these hates and bitching and rushing for some shows how desperate you are.
you wont get anything done by rushing.

@157 “In DC, dimes are rare,”

Preach!

DC is filled with 5′s and 6′s dressed like 9′s and 10′s. i hate it. I did to undergrad in the Midwest and it was hot chicks left and right. now i’m at g-town university for my masters and it’s more like hot chick to your left then busted bitch on your right and when you look back to your left what do you see? the hot chick leaving because their are 5 dicks creeping on her.

Also any place you go out at night , its ghetto ghetto ghetto.

wow, i find these comments about the girls totally false. actually, i’ve experienced the complete opposite – i see about 20 attractive females for every 1 good looking male…
get a life.

@ whosyourdaddy

I agree, the night life is not what it used to be so you just have to learn to adapt. There are tons of hot women out here. DC are was named the most fit area in the country (granted that we have a strong military presence which promotes PT, but you get my point).

Just learn to switch up your game guys geez. DC is one of the most international cities in the world with all the embassies and dipsets so if your looking for the easy WGs that you chased in undergrad. They probably already got scooped up by some other un-imaginative, swagless male lol.

All I got to say is “stay thirsty my friends” you can meet women anywhere. If you want the fit minded women go to the friggin gym and keep your eyes open (Try Golds Gym off wilson in Ballston across from Contes) its a good look!

Troller,

you’re talking about Mr. ‘Omega’ picking e-fights and here you are fighting back. you just put urself at his level so your statement will be reflected back to you.

Defending oneself from an unprovoked attack is not the same thing, you stupid faggot.

My point is valid. He is a loser, and exhibited the #1 trait of a man who does not get laid : Going to a Game blog to pick fights with other men.

If those men defend themselves from the Omega, that is appropriate.

If the DC nightlife is the only place where you are going to look for women, then clearly, you aren’t being resourceful and/or creative enough. May I?

10 Places to Meet Women Other Than a Bar or Nightclub: http://artofmanliness.com/2011/03/27/where-to-meet-women/

Even if you’re NOT looking for a relationship, you shouldn’t be looking for attractive women in bars or clubs in the first place, if only for the fact that they might not be attractive OUTSIDE of that environment once the alcohol wears off, the lights are on, etc. The true beauties in DC, inside and out, would never be caught dead in Adams Morgan for no good reason anyway. They’re too busy flirting at fundraising/charity events. Save your money, drop some bucks for a good cause, and they’ll flock to you. When in Rome.

On another note: @ 162. the truth. Are you really earning your graduate degree at Georgetown? Because I’m appalled you still can’t differentiate between their/they’re and its/it’s.

works both ways buddy..the guys aren’t anything to write home about either.
-Oakton VA

I’ve only been in DC for a year but it’s been happy hunting for me. I’ve found that girls in DC are so much more approachable on the streets (NW) than other cities. All a guy has to do in DC is have confidence, you don’t even need to go to the bars to find women.

lol you talk about how shallow women are while about half of your bullet points are about how unattractive the women are. double standard much?

This is funny!

You are an idiot who has no clue where to go in DC. You need to STFU and do some real research on the city first….

dude you sound like you are mediocre looking, getting older, and still trying to be a frat douche and “game” girls. grow up, people can tell when all you want to do is sleep with them. You are clearly not good enough looking for girls to only want to sleep with you, and clearly you have shit for a personality, so wheres the incentive to go anywhere near you?

This blog post reeks of bitterness. Sorry that the hot girls in the DC area don’t go for hairy, Arab-looking clowns like you. It sounds like what you’re describing is the pool of girls in DC who would be desperate enough to sleep with you: fat and ugly chicks. So what you’re actually saying is: of the girls who would sleep with me, all are fat and ugly chicks.

Have you even hung out in places like Arlington and Bethesda? Doesn’t matter – none of the girls there would give you the time of day either. And I can’t believe anyone has actually paid you for tips about “game.” Take your hands out of your pockets? Great advice, dude. Those kinds of tips may help Warcraft-playing, chronic masturbators but that’s about it. As you found out, attractive DC girls are not stupid enough to fall for your lame ass pick-up lines.

Could not agree more – had a private equity job which in a city as Bush League as DC puts me in the top 1%, and this post characterizes the nature of the females in DC perfectly. They don’t give a shit, and they think we’ll just fall in love with their brilliance – ha, yeah right.

You’re best bet is if you have to live in DC, which I thoroughly discourage, then find the first good looking girl who isn’t intolerable, and pounce on it. Sure, you’ll be another guy with a girlfriend, but that’s immensely preferable to fucking wildebeests and buffalos.

Wow! This is deep. Did you check out this?

“The demographics of this area have shifted dramatically where there are so many Asians, Middle Easterns, blacks, and Hispanics that 1/5 of the girls out that night are actually white (and that doesn’t mean they are slim or attractive or single).”

Notice he points out every minority with a capital letter except for blacks. He says that he is not racist. He seems more of a hypocrite if you ask me.

Who is this man that writes through ignorance with poor grammar? And what’s wrong with #8? So what!! Yeah, I’m an over achiever and I’m proud of it. Men like independent woman. To them, hearing women’s accomplishments and proclaiming their independence is like an orgasm on the 1st night without being physical.

This dude is bitter. He will not be getting laid any time in 2011. He needs to adjust his life around and pray to God that he find some sort of guidance.

Great read though *high 5*

At first this was spot on, then I got bored very quickly.

I get it, there’s lots of ugly chicks in DC. You’re not wrong, lots of them are ugly. Then again when you compare it to Miami and LA, what cities don’t have ugly chicks? Ever been to Detroit? Try that shit on for size and then come complain about DC.

In that same way, have you ever actually been to some of these places? Take Miami for instance…yep the girls are all really attractive, Bonus! sadly they are also by and large stupid and unsuccessful.

It’s like if you moved the jersey shore down south a bit and gave it a different accent.

Whoever wrote this has a very short memory of what DC used to be like…the “neighborhoods” section #9-10 is a great example. #9 talks about all the new people sucking the life out of the area, then shows a picture of the whitest most yuppy place in the entire city, yeah we really lost the “neighborhood values” on this one.

#10 Admo turns into a ghetto on the weekends…this proves youre not from the area, not because Admo isn’t bad (it is), but because it’s been bad since the 70′s and 80′s…actually previously it’s been much worse, so I dont know what you’re thinking when you say that it’s gets so bad down there at night..what the hell are you doing going out in Admo anyway?

I remember when I had my first beer too…but most people grow out of Admo when they turn 22. Time to move on.

Get over yourself, and enjoy your loveless pretentious life. You use big words, but sound like the world’s biggest douchebag prick. If you died the world would benefit.

There’s some hits and some misses with this one, but overall, I agree with the sentiment that DC is not a great city for guys unless you fit into one of the following categories of a yuppie, hipster, hoodlum, or political hotshot.

1) DC women, while they don’t have the hotness of chicks in Miami and LA, aren’t the worst. But here’s my issue: decent looking DC women have ego up the roof, even bigger ones than the hottest chicks from places like NYC, LA, and Miami. I can deal with swimming in a sea of ok-looking nerdy and freckled faced girls if they were more friendly, flirty, feminine, and open to confident men showing them some interest, but we all know what happens whenever any guy hot or ugly, alpha or beta, approaches a girl with the DC attitude.

2) The personalities of many people in DC aren’t the most interesting, but that’s not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that they think they’re hot shit because they’re paper-pushing for some politician and treat shit everyone else who they don’t perceive to be “on their level.”

3) While the nightclub you picked out is hardly accurate of the male/female ratio, there are many things that validate this statement including but not limited to females who are the following: snobby, already taken, insular, stuck-up, racist, ghetto, unassimilated, and/or have a over-inflated sense of worth.

4) To and extent that’s true, if you wanna get laid without a lot of shit tests and bitch shields. But remember that DC is the only city I know where the fat and ugly chicks act like they’re hot shit.

5) I emphasized that point at #1

6) Definitely! Most people who are natives and who aren’t either poor ghetto trash nor rich snobby tools get tired of DC, myself included. In fact, one of the main reasons I went to Western PA for college was just to get away from the DC environment. This also applies to chicks who are good looking and have pleasant attitudes. Also, DC tends to attract tools from either the Midwest or suburban Philly/Boston/NYC/Chicago. If we could only get more non-hickish/racist Southerners and transplants from the Western states, this place would be 50x friendlier. The only reason why people like me are still in the DC area is because Obama doesn’t want to invest in jobs anywhere outside of DC.

7) I sort of have to disagree with that, especially since many of the white girls in DC proper don’t date minorities. But as a black dude who doesn’t fit into the “ghetto role,” it’s even worse! I’m forced to choose between Shaniqua from Southeast or some bluppie tool from HBCU who has a big ego as the white broads in Georgetown. And ironically in DC, the more “liberal” a person is, the bigger the racist they are. I have to go to outer beltway Montgomery and Fairfax counties before I can get some good vibes, and I’m not about to fall for jailbait.

8) This has been expanded on so many times that I still can’t believe that people deny this fact.

9) Even though status-whoring yuppie transplants suck out the character of anything they touch, to be fair, DC proper has NEVER had any character, unless you consider crackhead-infested crime warzons as “character.” The replacing of Chinese Carry Outs and Liquor stores for Paneras and Starbucks is like trading in a old pile of manure for a fresh new pile of manure. Notice what DOESN’t change.

10) Compared to the rest of the nightlife spots, you can say it turns into a ghetto. But there are many more ghetto places to party in DC. And the popped-collar crowd in Adams Morgan is just as annoying as the ghetto crowd. And to be honest, DC nightlife in general is filled with tools of some sort. There’s nearly no spot in DC nightlife where you can just let your hair down and come as you are.

11) And honestly, what is there that really brings them to DC. If you were a hot foreign nanny, where would you want to go to: a city with good looking men, great weather, and party-oriented nightlife, or a city where most men are passive-aggressive nerds, most women show instant jealously, and the weather is mad schizophrenic.

12) This is so true. DC itself is overinflated in every way: from the COL to the women and everything in between. Many people here try so hard to compare DC to NYC, where in reality, it’s more on the level of Boston and San Francisco; nothing against those cities, but I’m just tell it like it is. I think this also stems from the inferiority complex that the women (and city in general) aren’t on the level of those in NYC or LA.

13) Alongside with the incompetence of Metro in the past few years, the fees that are constantly increasing every year that are going to pensions of these Metro employees who get paid six figures to sit in a booth and get uptight when someone asks for assistance, or sit on a train that drives itself yet announce the entire ride in Ebonics. And don’t get me started on having to wait 10 minutes for a train during rush hours and having the system virtually non-existent on the weekends. Sad thing is that Metro (especially Metrorail) used to be the shit back in the late 90s and early 00s, with less wait times for trains at a more affordable cost. You used to pay an average of $1.70 a ride and $5.00 would give you unlimited rides. Now, it cost $5.00 for a one-way trip.

14) The weather indeed SUCKS BALLS! Most of the time, it’s either humid as hell where it would be 90 degrees but feels like 120 (i.e. this past week) or cold as crap with all of the elements of winter but snow! (I love snow, but fuck all of the sleet, ice, and slush shit DC gets). The only time the weather is great is during the rater brief spring and fall seasons.

15) True, and another reason to have shame for being a black male from DC. And they call this the 2nd best place (next to Hoodlanta) for black people. What a crock full of shit! Not all of us are looking for the BET/WSHH rap video experience.

DC is about setting a foundation if you’re trying to ladder up girl talent. I liken it to Alpha Phi chicks: you usually have to bang up the pyramid.

My advice: if you’re new, meet friends through your work/happy hour network.

Live in transplant neighborhoods with good networking (Arlington, U St, Eastern Market).

Leverage the daytime activities in the city (jazz in the park, georgetown weekends, eastern market weekends, dupont circle people watching) and get invited to a house party or two.

-Know which nightlife spots fit your style (are you international? Do ESL on Wednesdays. Are you prep-white? Do Arlington happy hour and Georgetown/GW bars on weekends, are you mad guidesque? Do K Street and bring some $$$).

-Bring girls when you go out; dc chicks have creep shields that get disarmed if you’re in a mixed group being sociable. If you come into a bar as a “PUA” with some shit lines, you’ll get the inflated ego…

-Bar pickup works a lot better in move divey spots imo, club pickup is about how much confidence/sex appeal you can project.

I do empathize with those that are frustrated; have recently had much better weekends in NYC and MTL in terms of talent, but the pool’s big enough to find something to eat.

Cheers

@179

“And ironically in DC, the more “liberal” a person is, the bigger the racist they are.”

Preach!

Take ‘em to church!

Roosh is definitely head on. Although a lot of what he says can be interpreted as “harsh”, these are the cold, hard facts of DC women and the DC area.

Growing up in the DMV and residing in Northern VA for the past several years, DC nightlife is completely lame. To the people that disagree I want to ask them: have you ever traveled outside of the US (or even to Austin, SD, MIA, Tempe)?

90% of a girl’s INITIAL value is her looks. This is widely understood around most of the world. That’s why most girls outside of the US take care of themselves, and guys hold them to a higher standard.

DC has become an androgynous hot mess of masculine women and cockfests, this is only getting worse…most venues are filled with dudes and have 6s and 7s, who are socially awkward, and THINK they’re 10s because their is NO OTHER COMPETITION. Go to San Diego, this shit doesn’t exist.

Girls in DMV who have trouble landing a “quality man.” Few simple suggestions:

1. Get off your pedestal, just because you have a a job at booz allen or deloitte doesn’t mean you’re a “catch”

2. Get your makeup and style fixed

3. Be FEMININE

4. Act like a fuckin human being, don’t converse like a methodical, vapid robot.

So please, don’t bitch if you’re still on match.com and worried about your biological clock ticking.

Prime reason why ladies in DC suck…they blog about stuff like this!

http://pixielaughter53.blogspot.com/2011/07/15-reasons-why-dc-sucks-for-guys.html

Hi. You’re an asshole and a racist, but above all – you are particularly misinformed and ignorant. Hispanic is NOT a race you clown. Perhaps if you’re looking for a one color nation, you should move somewhere rural, where most of your neighbors are white. WE HOT BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (myself included a WHITE latina) say – get OUT of DC. We wont’ date you because clearly as soon as you open your mouth you turn us off. You are pathetic. And by the way, as soon as you start a sentence with ““Without sounding like a racist…” you are admitting to the world what you really are…yes a racist. No one cares about your preferences, there is a MUCH better way to phrase that. “I like white girls mostly, and where have they gone” IDIOTA

Roosh this is so funny, all the haterade will only make you stronger. its basically like a free advert for your blog.

for any white knight types reading this, shut your presumptions up a minute and do the following.

LOOK at the blog entry. do you see these things ” ” and these things # ? yes? no? maybe? so?

these indicates quotes and references. Roosh is far from racist, and is an asshole in the best sense of the word.

secondly men, spend a little time and look around the blog i think you will find something in here that might make you sit down and question yourself.

thirdly, feigning faux horror in an attempt to get wimin of the jezebel type internet crowd will NEVER, i repeat NEVER get you laid.

nothing more disgusting than a man taking another man down a peg just to win a little validation from women, who quite frankly will never f*** you in the first place.

women, in particular women of dc, how do i say this. take it as constructive criticism.

Sorry, but my friends and I are from DC and no matter where we go in the country, or in the world for that matter, we are considered pretty damn attractive. Yes DC is not perfect, but I will always represent the city and the areas surrounding. I think any MOCO kid would say growing up in the DMV was great. What the hell about DC is cookie cutter??? If all your friends are some yuppies then maybe that’s the case, but if you’re actually a local and not some pretentious asshole, you meet cool, chill and yes, attractive people.

Sorry bud but you sound lonely and you need to make a connection or two bc everytime I go to dc. My friends bring out smoking hot girls and we get hooked up everywhere we go. An average looking girl thinks no more of herself then the hottie on the dancefloor. As longs as you know what you’re doing and you’re not an idiot. You’ll be able to bang them. Yes, everyone there has is a bit more on the preppy stuck up side but what did you expect. The top three richest areas are in the suburbs of DC and its been that way for years. Not to mention it’s the most powerful city in the entire world. Sounds like DC isn’t the problem. You need to step your game up

AMEN

I find this pretty funny coming from a mediocre looking guy (you do know you’ll likely end up with somebody in your league?) and likely has an “illusions of grandeur” issue, measuring from the bombastic style of writing. I know many hot women who don’t act like this. It seems you are trying to statistically pool from the clubbing or bar scene, which has that type of women in whatever city you go to. If you want to meet quality women, sign up for a class, or volunteer, or sign up for a social sport. The women who go out every night are not going to be the “best of the city” type of women.

Women in DC are always much hotter, less bitchy, and easier to game wwhen a Republican is in the White House.
Fat girls, lazy girls, and mancunts flock to DC when a Democrat takes the Presidency.
Young women feel they need men less when the party of welfare, feminism, and federal police land all over that swampy town of marble, mirrors, and mannequins known as DC.
And outside of the very nice areas, the city is somewhere between Detroit and Uganda.

Honestly, I don’t see how ANY WOMAN (be she “hot” or “ugly”) in her right mind would ever screw Roosh or his cult following of douche bags. No wonder you all are intent on “agreeable” uneducated women…they would have to have an IQ below 80 before fucking the likes of you.

Here’s a thought: quit jacking off to Xena and move out of your mother’s basement. And while you’re at it, drop the attitude cause that’s not doing you any favors either.

Oh, and loose the emo look. It’s terrible! If you haven’t already been beaten up looking like that, you will….and probably by a bunch of highly educated “fat chicks.”

Let’s be real about DC, okay? No one, man or woman, who are worth anything do not hang out in bars. This is DC, step your life up, the dude who writes this blog lives in his parent’s basement and looks sickly. As a matter of fact, unless you are a good looking guy, you really have no business going to bars or clubs anywhere. It’s average and ugly looking men who drive the women away. Please stay at home.

Fuck it! I’m moving to Sweden!!!!!!

You need to hang out in Arlington.

D.C has no natives. Everyone moves here. There is no market for looks. The market is for brains or connections. Those 6 and 7s were begged to come here by whatever company/university/politician/LazyNewMother got them here. The 8s and 9s are impossible to get. They are snatched up for marriage before they ever hit the d.c streets.

To equate cities to visiting a college.

D.C is the ivy league. Smartest women you are going to fine. Great looks undervalued.

NYC, Mia, LA are the big public schools. Huge populations not enough parties to accommodate everyone. Chances are the deck is stacked when you go out.

Can’t figure out what to equate the midwest to. Went to Chicago for a weekend with 10 friends. Met hot chicks working in the Wrigley Townhouses. They got off, showed us around, and were dtf. Can’t compare it cuz I’ve never seen anything like it.

Dear Writer,

I agree with you in many points of your piece, and I used to share that feelings a while ago. But hooking up with 8, 9, 10 in DC is not as difficult as it looks at first.

I am an average looking guy and I do it just about every weekened and I beleive I can show you how to do it as well. It is a 5 week program that I have designed myself, and I have put it to test just once with my roomate and it has been a success.

It is absolutely free, and when I say free I really mean it. Trust me I’m all about the profit but at this point my program has not been finalized and fully tested.

If you’re interested, let me know. You have nothing to loose, but the skills you may gain from what I have learned will help you for a very long time.

Arlington i find is harder to game than DC. Sure the girls are more attractive but they put out less. I find Arlington is WORSE than DC to game.

About half this shit is true however, you seem to be bitter! You have been to DC a number of times, and lived other places, but you are still single and not happy. You sound like a computer nerd, who rapes his hands in dark coners to me.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. You can lead a wh0re to culture, but you can’t make her think.

Wolfy you’re starting to sound like a good friend of mine. It’s not Arlington, it’s your mentality. My crew and I pull all the time there.

I am from NYC, and while there is a ton of girls here… it is more likely you will run into a 5 or 6 rather than 8 or 9. NYC is the type of city where it is all about status and money. Not a cheap place to live. I am lucky to even live here on my salary.. Fat women live every where. I think people get the wrong idea about Manhattan NYC. I work in the corporate world and it is filled with Fat, unattractive women with money and status. Some New Yorkers especially try to pretend they are artsy and trendy. But it is a bunch bullshit where people really are trying to act different to say to the world they are cool. In reality they suck ass!!! Certain parts of manhattan are very pretentions and can be down right racist. All in all NYC have a fine collection of latina, asian and european women. Every now and then you will find a hot African American, or Morrocan. It is the best place in the world for food in my opinion but that topic can be debated.

After reading some of the posts i have to put my thoughts in.

Gentlemen do not get to preoccupied with looks, Now i am not saying to go shack up with a lady who is 250+ pounds. I am just saying not to be so picky. pussy is pussy!
The vast majority of the women in the world are going to be 5 and 6′s. That is planet earth which we all live on. I think alot of men’s expectations are too high. If you can ignore a women (who is a solid 6) you must not like sex or your a homo. Even if you get a 9 after you bang it for like a year or so, you will become bored with it. Just ask Tiger Woods about his ex wife Elin.

Alot of people in particular women tend to put the bar/night scene down. In actuality it is one the best places for people to meet. After a few drinks both sexes are more open to each other. That is something that cannot be said in a coffee shop or Bed bath & beyond. Most women in coffee shops are not as open(as women would like you to think) It is much harder to strike up a conversation in a coffee shop and your privacy is all out of the window because of the other patrons. In my experience the best way to approach a women and not get shot down. Is if she constantly stares at you or make eye contact. If she cant help but notice you and she is decent looking That should be any man’s signal to go in. 3 instances of staring or looking in your direction should be your que to move in.

I am not saying that is the only way you should approach women. But in my experience I had better luck with being notice. It kinda helps when your 6’2 (BasketBall player look alike) with average game skills.

My advice to women, is men will always be at the bar, clubs, pool halls. Just be safe and dont go to these places alone unless you know the owner or there is people there you can trust. There are some good guys like myself that go to these places, However there can at time be some assholes that go to these places.

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Having lived in DC for over three years, I can say without a doubt, this is accurate.

Ultrabar? Ultra-all-dude. Hated it. And what is up with the pat downs, the guards checked me like three times before entering!

Upon moving here, I noticed immediately the quality (or lack of) immediately. My standards were lowered — at first without me knowing it. It wasn’t until I went to Vegas, Chicago, or back to NY that I realized how my standards changed.

Quick story: A girl I dated loved DC. Here, she was an seven or eight, with guys all chasing her. She loved the attention, obviously. Now she is in NY and hates it. In reality, she is only a five or six, with NY showing her true colors. She’s a nobody there.

I also don’t understand why nobody is flirty here. Back in NY, girls make eye contact, give signals, or even initiate. I am moving soon, for sure.

Hopefully, I won’t be such a pervert in a different town now that the quality will go back up (I now have a staring problem when I leave DC).

at least it’s not Philly, where everyone is not super attractive and lacks a degree…

I totally agree with all of this.
I came to DC to work for a year from San Diego and saw exacally what you are describing . I couldn’t believe it. I thought I was just going to the wrong clubs and restaurants at first. I soon realized that this un-sexy vibe was throughout the whole region. Do girls even know what a pair of heels are?! I saw so many average looking chicks with sun dresses and flip flops it was a joke! The girls that did dress up usually were flat chested, pale, had a bad hair sttyle and had a set of Big pearls around their neck. I guess that’s just the style there. I am so glad I am out of that preppy ass dude heavy town. What a mind fuck! Never thought a big ass city like DC would have so few hotties. All the negative comments about this list seem like they are from girls who live in that area or dudes who are brain washed into thinking their precious DC is wonderful and intelligent but have either moved there from a lame small town or who have to think DC is great because they are stuck there. Believe me I started to get brain washed too. You have to get out and look at things from afar to really understand how lame DC is.

I’ve lived in the dc area most of my life, and while it may not be the same as it once was, its still has plenty of talent! You have to consider that most of the woman are in profssional clothing (including heels) on a daily basis so they arent very anxious to do the same on their days off (even though I like to see heels myself). Plus why the hell wouldnt you want a smart, educated chick that makes her own dam money?!As for the sausage fest comment, there is always more dudes ready to go out and get drunk/party so you just need to find a new place. The big “name” places arent always the best. And saying there is no diversity just makes no sense. You need to know where to go and what nights to go.DMV (dc, md,va if your an idiot)is a melting pot. If you are only going out Fri.& Sat. then thats why you arent seeing anythng diff.!No latin girls??Tsss, dam near half the clubs around here have “latin nights” once or twice a week. Obviously you want only white girls anyway so you need to b hanging out in north Arlington because there is no shortage of them there and its 10 mins. from dc. You and these other idiots are right about one thing though…the girls out here probably haven’t spent all/half of mommy & daddy’s savings on plastic surgery or botox like those west coast manikin’s! Not to mention Cali is one of the brokest states right now!

Oh and just because you see black people doesn’t mean your in the ghetto dumass!!!

Why should we get ourselves dolled up for sleezy dumbasses like you? We make our own money and don’t need to depend on anyone but ourselves. If you want to buy me a drink, I’ll drink it, but it doesn’t mean I’ll have sex with you. Get over your fat little, one nice suit wearing self. We can tell you suck so we don’t want to waste any more of our time.

DC Girl, pull the DeVry degree from betwixt your labia and realize that as far as you yourself is concerned, dont fret, not a one of use wants a thing to do with you.

Yup, DC girl is the type I ignore while moving past her to the hot beautiful 21 year old girl in heels and a skirt, who smiles and giggles all the way to my place or hers; meanwhile dc girl in her flip flops talks the bartenders ear off about some random insanity.

I hope you enjoy cats.

“We make our own money and don’t need to depend on anyone but ourselves” Good for you, I guess, but no guy is looking for that in a woman. This might explain your bad attitude.

For one DC girl, you should try to look decent because it shows you have some kind of standards and self-respect. And having a job and money is a separate issue from having a man show you attention. You can’t honestly say you don’t go home and pleasure yourself to thoughts of a man doing it for you. That’s after you polish off that pint of Haagen Daz in the freezer.

DC Girl is a Crazy Cat Lady in training.

as roosh pointed out in day game, DC has some great places to meet women during the day. quality ones. stay away from the P St Wholefoods please, as that is my territory.

It’s funny, because I could say the same things about Toronto. Not very funny though.

I’ve lived in the DC area my whole life ! I’ve been to over 45 countries and cities. I have to admit almost everything you’ve stated is true, DC is horrible for the young and single guy ! If you’re a guy, single and is not rich, then DC isn’t the place for you my friend ! MOVE !

The guy that wrote this blog lacks perspective an few items on the list. Every major fucking city in the US has become or is becoming homogenous and filled with boring people. And DC is no different. In fact I willing to bet its the last major city to change mainly because of the drug and crime related activities that had been going on for decades. I completely disagree with number 13. I have been using the metro since I was seven. Its the safes and cleanest train system in the country. How many train system in the country you know have carpet in their train.

DC has plenty of hot women walking around during the day and night. In fact I think DC has a higher concentration of attractive women compare to other major cities in the US with the exception being Miami. But that’s a drug infested city with no jobs. Why do you think everyone leaves Florida to come to DC. Plus Miami was built using drug money.

As far as girls with prince attitude, I don’t put up with that shit.

I HATE DC,after moving here from philly i can attest all these points are true,the women here suck balls no quality nor quantity..what a wasteland!

All the DC defending guys wearing your JC penny outfits don’t have a clue what it’s like in a normal city with hot girls who dress up. You are so brain washed into thinking it is normal to see 1 or 2 semi good looking girls on a Saturday night. Let me tell you It is not normal. Just go to any any any other city, even Baltimore and you brain washed dorks will see the difference. So stop defending your boring ass lame preppy city and get a clue. You keep comparing it to LA, Miami or Vegas and say “these are not real cities or these cities have bad economies or what ever you can reach for to think “DC is not that bad”. I’m saying go to ANY other city of the same size or even smaller and you will see. Even prisoners think their cell is “not that bad” if they have nothing to compare it to. Take a look at the “ugly bubble” after you have left and then let’s hear your opinion.. From the moment you land at Dulles you can tell right away that DC is just a plain government Un-sexy preppy disaster with a touch of a corporate picnic and not one in-style guy or girl for miles.

The only way to prove this guy wrong is to post some night club party pics of DC. I’m sure many of the “happening”clubs in your great city have websites and on those websites are pictures of different weekend pics. Go look for yourself and what do you see? Any hotties in those pics? I think not! Then look at club pics in Chicago, Atlanta, Austin, Dallas, Phoenix, San Diego etc…

I 100% agree–I’ve lived in DC my whole goddamn worthless life of 30 years. Every bitch in this city is a goddamn lawyer or works for some uppity bitch company and doesn’t give a fuck about you unless you have 20 phDs from Ivy League Faggot Schools. I briefly went to Georgetown and I had to say that constantly for anyone to begin talking to me, which was bullshit. Fortunately, I’m going to kill myself soon by putting a Remington 1100 12g shotgun in my mouth and blowing my goddamn brains out into the street, so pretty soon I won’t care anymore and won’t have to take five hundred anti-depressants anymore like I have the past 12 years. Have fun without me, you pathetic Down Syndrome faggots! Hopefully DC will be hit by al qaeda and be radioactive enough to grossly disfigure all the dumb faggots and stupid uppity bitches in the whole pathetic godddamn city.

I have never been to DC, but have traveled around the world. America and most of western Europe produces manladies who focus on careers not on beauty due to economic demand. You need 2 professional incomes to buy a home these days. That’s the trick played by corporate feminists. They don’t care about helping women, they just wanted women to walk as wage slave just like men JUST TO AFFORD THE SAME DAMN HOUSE.

Having said that, it has impacted American women’s personalities and opened the pandora’s box where they think they can be happy by rising up the corporate ladder. When they hit late 30s with no man and getting fat, no six figure income is goign to overcome genetic predisposition to produce babies and go on some sort of man hunt. I feel sorry for these women and they sound like the ladies you find in DC.

The good ladies, LTR ones are not in big cities. Go to some southern suburbs or eastern european countries. They don’t have this chip on their shoulder. They look good and cook well and will be good mothers. Fuck feminists and corporate chicks and you will have big house but ugly kids and you will cheat later anyway. Get yourself some small town ladies.

Move to Atlanta. Waaaay more single women than men and they are hot hot hot. All different kinds. A stunningly large portion of the male population in downtown and midtown are gay, so you have this big city with all these single women, and only a small segment of straight guys, and an even smaller segment of straight guys with a decent job. My female friends complain about it to me all the time (which bodes Great for guys). If you are a straight guy with something that resembles a steady job and a moderate level of game, there is no way you can lose in Atlanta.

The weird thing about DC girls is that 60-70% of them have big black ball sacks! I know this because when I used to have hidden cameras installed in the residential showers I installed as a plumber, many of the men I THOUGHT were women actually had ball sacks. Thanks a LOT, DC!

It is a bit rude to start shaming this guy on his looks and career just because he said some critical macro-level things, and as someone that has lived in DC since 2003, I think he is just about right. I don’t agree about the metro – I happen to think it is a good system that gets unfairly criticized – but the women here are AWFUL. It is all true.

And when I say awful, I mean:

- chips on their shoulders
- treat people like garbage unless they need you for something
- talk like valley girls even into their late 20′s
- rejecting you isn’t enough, they have to go that extra 25% to make you feel worthless

The thing is ladies, sincerity and weakness are really just two sides of the same coin. There are women that are weak but also sincere. But women that are insincere? Weak, every last one of them.

Ladies, at least think about this for once. This is an honest assessment.

Word, bro.

holy shit…i’ve always hated the “scene” here (well, for the past 10 years i’ve been serving in this shithole prison of a city) but after going to eastern europe and more recently canada (TOTALLY underrated source of painfully hot girls – like blondes? like asians? then you’ll love it…especially the blonde asians) it seems even worse.

i got hooked on the eastern european and german girls after dating a few au pairs…and damn, i thought it was just me. that was back in 200-2002 and since then it seems like they’ve disappeared off the face of the earth. i was worried i was just wasn’t hitting ENOUGH shitty house clubs on 18th street.

great list, though i could easily name 15,000 other reasons. oh well. maybe i should just get over my aversion to the black ladies.

DC is pretty bad, although there IS worse. I’m a lifelong resident, but frequent traveler.

Baltimore is definitely better.

The only trick in DC is to stick to college crowds, lots of slutted-up hot girls. I won’t talk to any woman in this city with a job more elevated than waitressing. Students are where it’s at, preferably communications or some other bullshit major.

Yapiyapo: Maybe the carpet was nice when you were seven – now it’s fucking disgusting.

It’s kind of interesting when we start using the Econ 101 example of supply and demand. I think the economics are actually more dysfunctional. More buyers (men) seems to encourage less selling (by women) and volume (sex). I am not sure most of you and Roosh will agree, but I am not sure young people in D.C. are having as much sex as compared to Brazil or Eastern Europe. It seems the hot chicks hold back their precious gift for the knight in shining armor and some of this attitude permeates down to the average women. It just seems there is more sex in the air when you walk into a Brazilian club with many hot women. Above-average Brazilian girls work very hard to attract the interest of men. This all comes back to roost in the U.S. when women over 35 try to make up for lost time. Their precious gift has an expiration date and who knows how many men they passed up in their youth.

Holy $hit, I could have written most of this. Never saw so many @ssholes in one small place.

You forgot to mention the CONTROL FREAKS who will seemingly go to the ends of the earth (passive-aggressively, of course) to CONTROL YOU.

This article and all the comments that follow are direct proof of the deprecating intelligence and CLASS of the American people. Instead of blaming the economy and the quality of the food we consume, take a look in the mirror and realize that you’re just an ugly, ignorant, son of a bitch, with no real factual knowledge of the city of DC or the people in it. I can’t believe how stupid this article is, or the fact that I’m writing this post because it is a waste of time and brain power. But I just can’t help myself. If anyone reads this article or any of your dumbass comments and thinks that they’ve learned something here today, I pity you. Pity pity party is what this is. The guy who wrote this must be one ugly mothereffer. You’re probably not allowed IN to any of the bars where the cute girls (who have a brain and some class) go on the weekends because even the bouncers at the front door, let alone an intelligent middle-class woman, can see in your face how stupid and sketchy you are. PLEASE. Do everyone in the Northern VA area and the District of Columbia a favor and GTFO. (GET THE F**K OUT) because we don’t want 45 ugly bro’s with no personality or charm to occupy the same oxygen as me and my friends (both men and women). AMEN.

I love it when below average looking guys complain about the girls they see at bars without realizing how funny/sad that sounds…

The ones who so vociferously “defend” the place are, without the shadow of a doubt, the same boring, narcissistic losers who are as described in this article. The truth hurts.

I love how “You are all Stupid” (above) actually defends what he implies are generalized attacks on DC by generally attacking all Americans. LMAO. Uh, the article and its ensuing comments come from people WHO HAVE LIVED THERE, dummy. Don’t like it? Don’t read it? If it hits you so hard it MUST ring some truth because otherwise you would have just skipped it and moved on. But thanks for the really DEEP belly-laugh you hypocritical immature fuck. LMAO. You wouldn’t know what “class” is if you stumbled across it. So ghetto…..and so typical of DC.

And by the way, “You are all Stupid”….Go live in a REAL world-class city for a while and learn the difference between it, and that one-horse low-class, intellectually-UNstimulating $hithole called DMV.

NO offense OP you’re a bit of an idiot for moving to DC. Why would you move to the one state/district that has a black majority and then complain that there are too many black people. Thats like moving to Africa and then complain that there are too many black people.

It is not like black people moved into DC overnight it has had a black majority since the whitehouse was built so you have no one but yourself to blame. If you want a white girl so bad go to fucking hamptoms.

Um, he actually said there aren’t enough white girls. He did not say there are “too many black people.” Stop reading between the lines to find what you WANT to find. It ain’t there! Dummy.

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Absolutely 150% correct friend. The most horrible place on the planet.

The men are gnarly too I mean come on :(

Any guy who wastes his time with a blog like this can’t get any hot women anyways.

I don’t think that it is a lack of quality of women that plagues DC, but a lack of young women in general. DC jobs are mostly male oriented (engineering, accounting, law). Go out to almost any bar in DC/Arlington on a Friday/Saturday night and it is almost certainly destined to be 65-75% guys. Not very favorable for guys looking to score or even guys looking to just meet women for that matter.

I’ve lived in the area most my life, and while I’d agree with your assesment of the females in the area, it wouldn’t even be on my bottom five things about the area list. The traffic for anybody living in the suburbs is totally brutal…just awful. I can’t belive that didn’t make the list.

Also, that pic of people in line for Georgetown Cupcakes is priceless..so true too.

I pulled big time one week in DC just by acting like who I am, regular dude from flyover country with some confidence who doesn’t parse his words. I held court at parties and bars and women I merely struck up a rapport with would ask me to escort them to a new locale, either another party or bar. That sort of instant familiarity lead to getting laid every night I went out.

The males there are largely SWPL shoe gazers, likely wussified by feminist indoctrination while collecting degrees. The girls I did hook up with were average looking or slightly above, but I did see a lot of hot women walking around town in the shopping district near my hotel, but not out in bars.

HHAHAAHAHA Yo HOUSTON is the biggest city with the darkest dating scene for guys ever, a girl in houston could break up with a guy and get another one in milisecond while a guy may take another 5 fucking years before he gets another chick if your a guy in houston and met a good girl in highschool or college you better hang on for dear life, cus oh boy it’ll be a blue moon before you get another chickk haha!!! Don’t even try making the chicks jealous, cus you’ll love like pie face!!

Houston is where fat ugly chicks get stand up guys that look like emporio armani models, houston is great for girls, all girls have ” social ” life here

Magically all the girls are ” social ” popular, while guys are easily labeled losers if they don’t meet the girl’s ” social” expecation.

Houston is where good guys get treated like shit and pushed out of the way in the clubs literally by average/fat chicks.

No where else do girls have this much power.

Guys step the fuck up and stand the fuck down, seriously, lame guys is what caused chicks to run around like they own the fucking place.

I agree with the last line above. Girly men are the reason females are primadonnas. The girly men and those who salivate over the women enable them to act like kunts. Ignore them and they will change their ways quickly. One of DC’s biggest problems is also a lack of manly, goodlooking guys. Yeah, there are a lot of guys, but no they generally are not goodlooking, nor do they act like real men.

It’s funny that many of the posters here mention LA, Austin, and Tempe. I lived in all three before moving to DC for grad school. Maybe I was spoiled before I came to DC or maybe DC really IS Hollywood for ugly people, but I fully agree with the DC sucks assessment.

I’m 31 years old and my two years in DC were the driest since losing my virginity at 15. DC is where men behave like women and women behave like men. The problem is so many there have been brainwashed by feminist propaganda. As a result, they (1) Do not understand (at best) or hate (at worst) men, (2) are more concerned with their careers and themselves, and (3) do not know how to be feminine. Agree with others that women in DC do not know how to flirt or make themselves approachable at all.

Another issue not mentioned is how judgmental people are in DC. If you are interested in anything alternative you will not only have a hard time dating but will just be bored. For example, I’ve got a lot of tattoos and listen to metal. In most of the places I lived before no one would even care, but in DC I would get so much stink eye. That I was earning a master’s degree from one of the best international affairs programs in the world or working a “professional” job would not even occur to them. Interesting that a city DC-philes proclaim is so cosmopolitan, progressive, liberal –whatever – is actually quite rigidly conventional and parochial. And no, I do not have a swastika tattooed on my forehead or a Mike Tyson facial tribal. My work is actually quite…professional. I don’t want to sound pretentious about it, just that it never really was an issue before I came to DC.

Bottom line, yes, DC sucks. There will always be people who try to defend it. To me, the arguments are quite ridiculous. Yes, there are cool places – some refuges from the rampant douchebagery. Honestly though, everything these apologists have pointed out to me is done just as well if not better in other major cities. It can be good for school or work, but is that all that matters in life?

i agree with roosch 100%

This article’s so right on. LOL

I’ve worked in DC since 93. I’ve lived at least an hour from DC all my life, and am now almost 40. Still single. I’m told that I’m handsome, I work out and take care of myself, I have a great job, and I have lots of hobbies: motorcyling, aviation, percussion.

I’ve asked well over 100 women out here and overwhelmingly get the “why are you talking to me?” look, “leave me alone” look, or even the I’m going to size you up and give you a shitty and walk away look. My female friends apologize to me for the way women have treated me here.

Unfortunately it’s to the point now where I just don’t approach women any more. It’s so unpleasant most of the time, despite being a great communicator and great guy, I haven’t had sex in months, and before that, years.

My advice to any men out there. Stay away from DC! And thanks to Roosch for feeling sorry for my dick. LMFAO!!

Damn this sounds almost exactly like Boston (this shithole sucks)….only thing is at least the Boston women tend to be in shape because they are all liberal, enviromental-friendly, feminists….actually make that hypocrite feminists. They expect that you allow them to walk all over you but get a bit in a tizzy if you dont fawn over them. Cant wait to go back down The South!

I don’t want to talk abou DC – came across this in my research on where to move next (I’ve been in Seattle for about 6 years) and have a guy friend in there who loves the place. I am a Brazilian woman and some of the comments in here lead me to the understanding that you have no idea about my culture. Many of us are good looking (do not believe Brazil is top model land!) and most of us love to show off our feminine side. Brazil is, unfortunatelly a macho country, with men cheating like crazy and treating women in a very poor manner. The “average” Brazilian woman can be more feminine than many other nationalities and the “do everything to please a man” idea is based on a low self esteem concept that goes on in macho countries like the one I’m from, unfortunately. Because of those comments I might not take this blog into consideration for my moving – the author seems like a poorly informed American boy.

I agree that DC sucks for many of the reasons listed above. I moved here for grad school and can’t wait to leave. But I haven’t had as hard a time dating here as some of the comments above suggest. I think that’s because I avoid the Dupont/Adams Morgan/Euro-trash downtown club scene (if you hang out there you are only going to encounter the upper middle class career obsessed cookie-cutter crowd).

For at least the last 3+ years there has been a burgeoning (though still small) alternative bar scene around U St NW / H St NE. That’s where you find all the more interesting girls (with a tendency towards the hipster/manic pixie dream girl type). The problem is that even these places are now being invaded by the bridge and tunnel collar-popping crowd that give DC the bad name it deserves.

Sorry to hear you had a bad time in our great city. It’s so unfortunate to see losers from their own hometown come here and think they’ll be any different. If you were a loser there, you’ll be one here too. I read all of your bitchin and its obvious you never got laid hence all of the time on your hands for bitchin and pics. My suggestion for you, if you are still here or if you come back, is to find me. I’m a bartender in this great city and hang out. Your perspective will definitely change when you stop acting like a bitchy little chick. The ratio of women to men in this city is 15:1. Clearly you help that ratio for the non bitchy guys. Thanks. My website is attached and my info is there.

1st pic jumbo slice,good pizza but i won’t go there again knowing what their bathroom looks like.I saw a HUGE green fly in it one day and just walked right out with the pizza on the table.

Washington, D.C could be cool but sucks for 2 reasons. Guys here are about as interesting and sexy as looking at paint drying on a wall. Seriously, most of the guys in D.C. are geeks or ugly, average losers believing that somehow they should get the hottest girl of all time. Yes, you may have money but many don’t have sex appeal and the sex…forget about it. It’s just bad all the way over. The second reason is because there are a lot of boring ass white people here who makes everything suck because they are basically plain white vanilla (not like sexy, finger licking good vanilla like Bradd Pitt) and are basically about as interesting as trying to find a needle in a haystack. I am not white but I see a lot of good looking white girls around but most of them seemed to have turned into lesbians because the white guys here as so ugly, boring and sexually inadequate which I bet is why you don’t date so called minority girls in the first place. Actually D.C. sucks for women, the men are just clueless. I’m looking to transplant to Miami or New York.

Also guys here have no cajones. They have poor socialization skills. I’m thinking of starting a new business and giving them classes. Basically they don’t know how to approach or talk to a woman with any kind of confidence. They also do not understand anything about taking it slow and wanting to lump everything in the first date. It’s like yes you may be good at your profession here if you are a guy but at life many of you are deficient indeed at understanding life and woman. Also if girls in other areas are so hot why haven’t you gone there and picked one up. Oh, that’s right because you probably are an ugly loser who just likes to fantasize but can’t get the real thing.

The girls are all fat? You do realize DC is consistently ranked as the fittest or second-fittest city in America? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-buzz/post/dc-is-second-fittest-city-in-the-us/2011/05/25/AGb0MEBH_blog.html

Your desire for #7 and #2 makes #9 ironic and #15 irrelevant. The HIV rate is very racially disparate and the high rate is due to the rate in the black population being high. And the 3/4 of the city that you’re avoiding because it’s too full of scary poor people and minorities isn’t chock full of the Whole Foods and Fancy Overprice Cupcake Shoppes that you bemoan the way white meccas like Georgetown and Old Town Alexandria are.

Decent troll. The secret to DC is finding out what bars are hot with women. In this economy, it’s places close to their school with cheap beer. McFaddens is a great example. Most nights of the week it’s full of packs insecure girls. I can’t go in and sit down without 3 girls all trying to outdo each other impressing me at the same time. Damn, women are mean to each other when they are horny. Helps living across the street. Even places that aren’t supposed to be pickup spots like 51st State are great on a Friday.

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The fourteen points to DC are so right on it hurts my genitals! I have lived all over the USA and this city, and area is amazing for its lack of good looking women. This whole area is swamped with a multitude of butt faced hogs that think they are God’s gift because they have a Masters from Cornell. ON YOUR KNEES!!! The good looking one’s are so stuck on themselves I don’t even look anymore. NYC has tons of gorgeous talkative ladies that are fun to get to know. I have to go on vacation to find any quality females. I hate this place!!Headed to NYC for the weekend yee haa!!

OK I still look at the good looking ones …hell I’m still breathing!

DC is full of people with personality disorders who care way too much about money, power and status. These types of people are incapable of being happy, so they bring misery everywhere they go. Way way WAY better to be alone than be with a miserable, soul sucking person.

I’m moving to DC in a month. I’m an attractive white female so I should have no problem meeting attractive white men… perfect!

This is some of the sickest and funniest smack, that I’ve read, in a long ass time. Keep it up.!

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True, but the suburbs are a bit better.
Like Bethesda or Silver Spring, since there’s more foreign girls there.

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Amen brother! I was married to a girl from the DC area and she fit your descriptions to a “T”. Needless to say the marriage failed and I was happy to get out of it. It’s been a challenge to find a “real” girl, women around here have such fucking high opinions of themselves!

I worked in DC as a bicycle courier and I would pick up on secretaries and barristas just by smiling at them on the street. Yeah there are plenty of frumpy women, but those law firms hire some decent secretaries from time to time. If you just sit in your office all day and go to clubs you will never meet the hot women.

Check AU, Georgetown girls as well. Snobby, yes, but if you just want to fuck it works. You need to add some danger to your game and keep it brief. The women there are tired of educated idiots, who think they are the shit. If you can be bold and humble at the same time, while keeping it real about what you want, you will do fine.

Someone above posted that the attractive women are married. That may be true, but their husband has no sex game. They can not go out every night hunting for dick. Meet them at the cafe and be straight up about what you are looking for.

Why even bother with the club?

If you want to meet white girls, move to scottsdale.

The clubs are all white girls and some latino girls.

Stop complaining, whos fault is it that you live in DC, you can always move.

well try to date in the LA/OC area (Southern California{) and i bet you you will never find any more miserable place than here where women tend to act like snobs and they are surrender by desperate and horny men all the time. Full of attention suckers and bitchy 24/7 personalities. Its not just the DC area but also the whole country in general. Women lost their values to their feminine world. I know a lot of people that turn to countries like Brazil, Russia, Europe or Asia as there are some countries that still keep their values and morals in the same way their parents taught them

I totally agree with you. + most young girls are either interns (from south) or communication-major social climbing whoever passes them.
I think someone told them lawyers are the goals and they are just looking for them they way a dog looks for shit. Suburb people are rich, decent and respectful with some young girls but I have never seen more than couple of that type not spoiled and dumb. Youngesters live in small shit-holes in downtown or bit nicer shit holes in NOVA so yes closets are too small to maintain a nice look. At the end architecture of DC sucks as well.

Dude,

I liked your article – kinda funny and I get your point. However, All you talk about is how the women should look. and then you complain the few that do look good are stuck-up princesses, etc……you seem like the average AWG (angry white guy) in some ways. And If you came to my town (Los Angeles), you ‘d be the nerd-linger from DC and you better LOVE Mexico!!!!! And Asia. And Africa. Welcome to another big city in America. Get my drift? And you’d be competing with the hottest men in the world who love to surf and wear flip-flops to the opera btw – and I am not even gonna talk to you about the women. NO ROMANCE without FINANCE. But a glowing porno industry and loaded with self-absorbed actresses! Oh yeah, we have got creativity up the wazoo, but “Crazy” loves “creativity”!!!! Personally, it could be fun to date a hot politician or aide. why not? at least there is some form of intelligence!

Great article and great posts!! This town underwent many transitions. 70′s up to mid 80′s folks were thinner in general, friendly and loose. Only strippers had tatts and thongs. Then the HIV scare slowed things down in the mid80s-early 90′s and TV shows like Designing Women created a very high Big Hair + Thunder Thighs in tights quotient. Not good role models for girls growing up. Then later 90′s and thongs & tatts go mainstream and gent clubs wont hire gal w/tatts. 98 up until the 2008 meltdown this town was rocking. You had money left to drink with after rent or mortgage (no LONGER!) Roosh’s observation is spot on! In ’08 I remember walking to my car and I was amazed to see so many fit dolls between Adams Morgan and M st!! I am not sure what happened. They are gone. Maybe too many free meals from the dudes they meet on the internet dating sites? Why cook when there is always some desperate lonely e-dating dude to pick up an expensive dinner tab?? I’m glad I’m not young any more to have to deal with this crap.

Dear Sir,

If it sucks so bad please, for the love of those who actually love this city, leave. We dont want you here anyway. Go to any other city and bitch about how much it sucks there.

DC is an amazing town, if you look on K street for the goods are going to get exactly what you asked for. Most of those people live in VA. Please, get your facts right or just stay quiet cuz articles like this dont help anyone or anything.

M.Dank

he is only looking for white girls that why he cant find attractive woman in dc , on the risk of sounding racist like he said white girls are mostly mediocore at best dc has some really sexy minorities thats where its at lol

What this pretty much says is:

1. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
2. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
3. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
4. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
5. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
6. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
7. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
8. I’m single and ugly and there are no girls.
etc…..

Lol sounds like you’re mad you can’t get laid.

I live in Ottawa (Canada’s DC) and I can relate

There are tons of hot chicks in DC, even for a well dressed white guy. The thing is they’re not all concentrated/restricted to one small areaa of nightlife like NYC, LA or Miami. No DC doesn’t have the beach or type of industry that attracts mindless hot chicks so you shouldn’t expect it to be on the same level as those small concentrated mecca’s of hot women but you’re misinforming those who’ve never been or lived here to describe it as only Ghetto or Fat Chicks.

Of course the club landscape has changed, what you described about The Park and Play now Midtown and even that picture of Ultra-bar which back in the day was the Bank and Vault next to it, is a simple matter of the suburbs standing up pockets of spots that have given non DC hotties a reason to not go to DC every weekend to party.

The competition has also caused places to relax their dress codes to atract enough numbers to stay open. Only a handfull of clubs have a dress code where women actually have to dress up (Park, Lima, Barcode, K St Lounge, and a couple new spots on K St and I St. Georgetown, Adams Morgan

In the 90′s and early 2000′s DC clubs had a much better talent pool because there was nothing to do in the surrounding suburbs so it was better populated from the entire DC Metro area as well as the chicks who actually live in DC.

Nowadays hotties from Arlington, Fairfax, Montgomery County, PG County don’t have to go to DC which limits the landscape to the government and contractor chicks that live in the city or the college girls from GW, Georgetown, American, Catholic and Howard.

Nowadays you have to know what’s going on in and around the city and where to go to find what you’re looking for. Any club in any city that plays dance music will get a mix of races, this is also true of DC so if you want a White girl experience try U st between 13th and 18th or take a 10 min cab ride to Arlington and hit the Clarendon Ballroom, Clarendon Grill, Mad Rose or Mr Days, all within 2 mins walk of each other.

You sound like a HUGE tool, dude. No doubt your angry rant is solely the result of your failure to to get laid. Sounds like you’re racist too.

Btw, How’s about posting your picture on this site? I bet your 5’5″ and resemble road kill.

James, get off the Internet and attend some basic English classes. Also, It sounds like you’ve got the same angry virgin syndrome as the original poster. Sad. I bet you’ve never seen a breast that wasn’t your mommy’s.

The gals are big in Britain and Australia too! Many other countries as well because THEY CAN. Being obese does not hinder. Limeys will refer to a fat woman as looking “American” but their own women get huge too. Sorry folks. Roosh is spot on! Divorce laws are based on when the woman was home not working and this sets precedent. I see the kids walking to school all sloppy wearing board shorts and this just adds to the mayhem setting a sloppy benchmark. Bloomberg is right about outlawing the big-gulp! But the talent is always better when there is a Re-pubican in office. The sorry poster excuse is always somebody’s English skills but even with typos and incorrect grammar it is obvious that the truth hurts! All the ethnic injection here is nice because now there’s a variety but their own ethnic community will actually shun their homeys for not marrying a Hindu, fellow Central American or Viet. How many honky Hindus to you know, and when was the last time you saw a Latina or Viet hooking up with a whitebread? Then the Asian gals are all sought after by their own and the local desperadoes. Look at TV and how the Caucasian male is emasculated. The dating sites are basically an eat-out4free club. I am just a casual observer, but this website caught my eye for a valid reason.

Roosh youre turkish not white…ur middle eastern

7. There aren’t enough cute white girls for white men who don’t want to date minorities.

“Without sounding like a racist, this is what is killing DC nightlife for me. I’m a white dude and I like white girls with a few exceptions here and there. The demographics of this area have shifted dramatically where there are so many Asians, Middle Easterns, blacks, and Hispanics that 1/5 of the girls out that night are actually white (and that doesn’t mean they are slim or attractive or single). Because so many people work for the government some way or another and make decent money, there is no income segregation and all the races party at the same places. There is a shortage of white girls and girls from Latin American countries like Brazil or Argentina.” #

“I think last time I was at Modern I felt like I was in Asia.” #

@279 Molly

I’m from D.C. born and raised. The place sucks. Deal with it. Uninteresting, lacking style, status mongering herbs who cop an attitude the moment it’s implied they’re not the absolutely most interesting/intelligent/attractive things to grace god’s green earth. No wonder you love it so much.

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Don’t listen to these idiots. You are White.

You guys complaining about dc should come to Connecticut ,you’ll be running back to dc
Picture those girls you are talking about but they have no education and they are proud to act ghetto and bitchy

You guys defending DC and calling those of us who agree with this article socially inept and bitchy are funny. I’m sorry if we hurt your feelings. LOL

DC is a toilet bowl of horrible people. For starters, people are racist as crap. White people HATE Blacks, and Blacks HATE other BLACKS. For a supposedly majority Black city, the negroes there are a self-hating, coon-acting, fleet of losers. Yes, the Blacks there make money. But, the women still look like ghetto clowns. They have expensive purses, shoes, dresses, and cars. But, they also have horrible weaves, are generally unhealthy looking, and are “female dogs.”

Written like a true fat, ugly, cookie-cutter heterosexual male.

I live in a small town in the Northwest and miss the human/cultural diversity more prevalent in the City. If the author wants nothing but white bread he should make his way north to Washington – the state, that is. While the western side of the state has a sizable Asian population, the east side is glaringly white. For myself, I like a little more diversity – and I’m not just talkin’ about the human element. I like Chinese food prepared by Asians, not crackers, etc., etc. I have to cross the freakin’ border to get Indian for godsakes. Just ain’t right!

And the dating pool here is virtually non-existent unless you’re cool with the knuckle-dragging, booger-eating moron sort who only dig white bread.

9% body fat and a smile won’t fool a hot girl for long if you’re short and full of yourself…like a majority of the DC guys I seem to encounter…

Wednesdays, go to Eden, Thursdays – Saturday go to Current/Ozio. or Bethesda’s BlackFinns/Union Jacks. Friday Lima/Eden…Nuff said.

Trust me. I travel everywhere for work and DC is much better than most other places. There are lots of attractive women, but you cant be mediocre if you want to hang out with them. NYC is where I’ve seen ridiculously gorgeous people everywhere, but then again, there are probobly more hideous people than attractive here. Oh and DC is ranked as being one of the fittest cities. Clubs suck everywhere. Bars in DC are fun for sure w attractive women.

Dude, you say that you’re basically God’s greatest gift to women and they should be lucky to have you. Read below:

“Just about every 6+ chick found in a DC bar/club thinks she’s a 10 and has her 24-7 bitch shield up. Shoot, I am a white dude who works out constantly (9% body fat only), dresses sharp and makes it a point to always smile (I have nice teeth), yet the number of times girls give me the eye roll here is unreal!

You sound like a total douche bag. I’m white and i think you’re a racist. Open the door to the closet, take off your white hood and settle down there Pepe! It’s not your look that the women gave you the eye roll, they simply could sense you are a dickhead when they walked by. You’re a losers Loser my man and i suggest you start rebuilding your spirit for starters. Yeah, you have 9% body fat on the outside, but 91% judgemental uppitiness on the inside. I bet you grew up in the suburbs with your repeat references to hood. In the event you are ever caught in a “hood” i bet you would be leaving minus your manhood. You’re a total griping bitch who couldn’t get pussy in a Spanish fly factory full of horny whores. Go back to whence thou comst from and banish thyself from DC. The article sucked, you suck, and i bet it has been a long time you’ve been sucked. Again, you suck!

Post 253, Whiteboy TOm is a loser too!

Shoot, I am a white dude who works out constantly (9% body fat only), dresses sharp and makes it a point to always smile (I have nice teeth), yet the number of times girls give me the eye roll here is unreal! Sometimes, I dream of being a tall celebrity cat as that seems to be about the only foolproof method of getting GOOD-LOOKING women in DC.” #

He said this shit with a straight face. Losers in Loserville go back to WhitebreadChickenShit City and live happily ever after with a cookie-cutter , Starbuckian white girl. Sheesh! Can’t believe he posted this crap. Yeah, DC women look like they could be stunt doubles at a zoo and their attitudes belong on a Jerry Spranger show but if you got game you can cut thru that bull shit and get your jammie in some sumthin nice and tight.

and white!

I always think it is funny when white guys seem to think that they have a right to judge other women. Compared to Spanish men and black men, most white guys are just not attractive. The girls who do like them it is for the money and for what my white girlfriends tell me, some of you actually are on the low end when it comes to your stuff. But if you are looking for white women mostly, then I guess a city like Boston would be great for you.

get the fuck out of my city! tired of white people complaining that it’s not enuff white people… move to New England with the other racists… #1vsM

I agree with DC Rap. GTFO. U don’t like minorities, DC IS THE LAST PLACE IN THIS RACIST COUNTRY YOU SHOULD VISIT. Imagine if your racist ass came during the 80′s when it was around 80% black? Take your spoiled ass to Maui or something….

Trust me when I tell you, the white girls who were born and raised here are NOT the same as the stuck up chicks who move here and feel they have something to prove. I’m not going to say I’m a supermodel, but let’s just say I don’t have any issue in the man department. However, most guys are intimidated by me and will never speak to me, and I work out 6 days a week and compete in figure competitions, so I KNOW I’m not a heffalump! Maybe if more ‘white guys’ had some balls to approach the good looking women, we wouldn’t leave! All other races and ethnicities will approach me, but not white guys, even if I give them ‘the eyes’ and they give them back. I don’t discriminate against any ethnicity to date; I will date black, white, purple, or indifferent, as long as I like them and they like me back! The ‘white guys’ around here are stuffy, boring, and have the personality of a grape for the most part, but when I find a fellow fitness buff, like myself, they tend to either be gay or so self-absorbed that they would probably spend more time looking at themselves rather than me. Being around bodybuilders everyday may make my standards a bit higher, as far as looks go, so most white guys around here DEF do not measure up because all they do is drink and ‘party’, which makes them unfit and sloppy (yet rich). LOL PLEASE tell me where all of these HOT, down-to-earth, fun, smart, fit, tall, and funny white guys are…..haven’t met but a few here and I was born and raised in DC and all that move here are the SAME EXACT way you described the ‘white girls’ in your rant.

this dumb fuck actually spent his time to dumb fuck these 15 turds of retard poop onto the internet…and he makes a joke out of a tragedy in which folks actually lost their lives. i think the worst part about dc is how people feel like just because they moved there 2 years ago, they know all there is to know about the city…never even stepped a foot outside of NW. try actually GETTING TO KNOW THE CITY before you….THINK YOU KNOW THE CITY. dumb fucks these days smh lol

OMG this is the best description of DC I’ve ever seen!!

I’m sorry where are you from?
At least we have jobs.

This sums up DC in a nutsehll!! Having Lived there for most of my life..definitely west coast is much better!!!

Dude,

As many stated you’ve answered your own puzzle.

MOVE THE FUCK OUT

Person who wrote this is a major douchebag. Signed , guy who loves dc

When people don’t live in New York, I assume they’re joking.

All I read throughout this article is, “I have a small penis, a small, small, small penis.” Sorry about that, dude.

I am a woman that has lived in DC for 20 years. I am hot. Roosh is correct. I am 5’8″ brunette and a size 6. I am now over 40 so I am not in the same market as the younger people on this board but I TAKE CARE of myself and look 30. The problem is you boys screw the fat women and give them a false sense of confidence. The fat chicks get aggressive with the hot chicks on the social and work scene. It is a pain in the ass to go out and try to meet men whilst some hagaan daas bitch is blocking you out.

Whilst I have lived here I moved down to atlanta for a year and lived in england visiting milan and berlin. I am well traveled. Women are far more sophisticated in other areas. I have worked for PWC, Accenture, National Geo, etc. But now I am a bartender. I get so much shit from men who are only looking for the fat blonde with the college degree. You guys did it to yourselves for putting up with this behavior.

Last boyfriend dated me and I found out he had three other women on the side – all fat mean blonde chicks. He refused to give them up because he was “playing the field.” He was a bald slightly pudgy executive. Well so not he has hit fat blondes and the slim little brunette is gone. Typical of DC men. So typical. At least some guys are aware of the stupid lame game the dating scene is in DC. I confess in the summer time when I am at the grocery store I do wear flops but I am not out trying to impress anybody. I would not pick up a guy in a grocery store. It indicates they eat too much.

Like the one guy said on this board. Find the pretty girl and stick with her. You don’t fuck the fat chicks and they may just chuck out the hagan daas and start asking the hot chicks how to dress better instead of running them off

Sorry S key not working “Well so now he has his fat blondes.” You don’t want them don’t let them drive the pretty girls off.

That from an older woman. I look for men my age and I have sons who have hit the dating scene. It’s the same advice I give them.

YES. I went there.

As a mid/late 20′s indian-american guy, in my experience, traditional nightlife in DC is horrific. Social circle dating, athletic activities, gallery/cultural events, are much much better to pick up at. Day game is everything in DC.

From a macro perspective women outnumber men in DC but they do have an inflated self worth and they are much more narrow minded in their dating tastes compared to their counterparts in other major metros. So the women complain they aren’t landing a self-selected small pool of unattainable guys compared to their standing and the guys complain that the vast majority of women are of terrible quality.

That said, DC is a much better a place in my experience compared to somewhere like Philly (discounting student/college girs).

“And when I say awful, I mean:

- chips on their shoulders
- treat people like garbage unless they need you for something
- talk like valley girls even into their late 20′s
- rejecting you isn’t enough, they have to go that extra 25% to make you feel worthless”

You sir, have hit the nail on the head. Especially the last part. It’s not enough to politely, or even firmly, turn a guy away. They have to go the extra mile make you pay for daring to flirt with/engage them in conversation.

You could meet better women–hotter, more style, more personality, more fun, more warmth–at a bar in Fredericksburg VA than you could anywhere in this godforsaken shithole of a nation’s capitol. A smile, a wink, some charm and a cute accent as opposed to what passes here for a female, they all look like constipated frogs yet act like they’re the hottest women on the planet.

Hollywood for Ugly People…inside and out. No vibe, no energy, no chic, no cool. Get out if you can!

As a woman who was born and raised in DC and now lives in CA let me just say that the men aren’t that attractive either. Perhaps what you consider attractive in yourself may not be as attractive as you perceive yourself to be in the vacuous, supermodel hotties you desire. If you are bald, fat , or unattractive maybe you should adjust your standards and if you share this attitude you could afford to grow up a little as well.

That or you could perhaps subject yourselves to the same painful beauty rituals that women put themselves through to make themselves more attractive to you. I swear there are men out there crying for more attractive women who could honestly be more attractive if they took better care of themselves. If you are a man looking for a woman who works out 4 hrs a day for that hot body you want but you’re a couch potato with nothing concrete to offer, please stop lying to yourself.

If you aren’t, then maybe it’s your personality that’s driving women away. Maybe you’re shallow. Maybe you’re immature. Maybe you lack self confidence. You see guys women are people. They have feelings, desires, and different qualities will attract different women. But women will most always be turned off by shallow men or immature men with unrealistic expectations.

Having moved to CA recently (Bay area) it’s a relief how much more mature the men are out here.

Also I lived in Sweden. No, moving to Sweden will not guarantee you more girls :). Especially if you’re that immature.

“I don’t know one guy from DC who is married to a girl from this area where I thought to myself ‘Wow, good for him, that’s a nice pull.”
Maybe they got married out of love – although I know that’s too radical a concept for this website!

Certain neighborhoods and people in DC do suck ass, but I find that places around DC are more layed back. Like Montgomery County, MD has a pretty good mix of young women who are easy to bang. Don’t care too much for Northern Virginia, just a bunch of closet libertarian freaks who care about appearance and status. DC Northwest like Columbia Heights, Howard University and friendship heights are alright neighborhoods but Dupont Circle is just like the Marina District in San Francisco (bunch of white, spoiled bitches who think they are the shit). Good thing East Coast states are close together so I can go visit a more eclectic city like Philly or NYC….

If you need to blog about what you perceive to be the shallow unattractive girls in DC, you should take a look in the mirror. I hope you have luck finding a girl who finds you as fascinating as you find yourselves.

Lol the guy that wrote this must be a complete douche bag! I have lived in DC most of my life and there are absolutely gorgeous women. And the only reason that girls are so called “status whores” is because they are trying to move up the career ladder too. This guy wouldn’t know a beautiful successful girl if she slapped his pathetic face. He must only be attracted to loser, non ambitious girls

I friggen adore this post! like… it seriously sums up what I was unable to express about my feeling about DC in really concise way. Bravo.

While I lived in DC from 07-09 (apparently its hey-day)I agree with:

“A ton of status whoring, fake people, degree chasers, one uppers, the ‘I care less than you do’ crowd.” #

“First conversation starter is always “What’s your job?” Lame just lame.” #

“DC women are very superficial… they are sizing you up to see how you can benefit them and their career. People live to work in this city… they all will have law degree’s, mba’s or some silly phd and they will make sure that’s the first thing you know about them. They’re gonna be looking at your clothes, car, and all the other dumb shit they use to measure you”

it the most pretentious city I have ever lived in.

I did see and lived with many “high matintenance” ultra skinny, went joggin w make up on attractive women, but honey, if you weren’t shelling out on Moet or offering them a job in gov’t you were SOL.

I basically was a by-stander to all this, waiting for grad school to end so I could bus it back to NYC.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE this post. I worked in gay restaurtant in Dupont, spent my time w that community, those clubs. Unadulterated fun wo the pretention.. best coping mechanism I could come up with.

I’m a hot chick and have to say that the quality of men in DC sucks, too! Can we say, “douche bags with zero personalities and 19-year old frat-boy mentalities?” I wish we had more emo-types wearing straight jeans and cool hair- maybe I would date.

Damn! I thought Atlanta was bad! In Atlanta, pretty white women seem reserved for the working men WHO MADE IT, not the working man trying to come up. If you’re a Falcons, Hawks, or Braves player, or at least a millionaire, you’re a catch and guaranteed a woman. Being a single working man who’s not successful is never good.

No this isn’t Miami (duh!) and some would say the Capitol of the free world, so are you really surprised if everyone is overworked? DC is a place where people come to make it, like LA without the glamour.

But if you don’t know where to find pretty 20-something’s, you clearly don’t have game at all. Try the gold cup horse races in the spring… 20 something’s get smashed on fruity drinks while wearing pretty sundresses…. I mean does it get easier? Plus they probably rode a party bus out there… Just saying. If you had female friends they would tell you this!

And yes, there are hidden list-only bars in Georgetown. If you had to write this article you probably aren’t invited. So yeah, the prettiest girls arent even available to you because you probably arent on the list. if you are a guy and you think a crisp shirt and flashing some pearly whites are going to get you anywhere in this city, forget it – everyone here is smart, even the pretty girls, so you had better be as smart as they are and you had better have something to offer because the girls probably make more money than you do too.

As for the pictures, only tourists eat at Georgetown cupcake – they aren’t even good. DC residents are busy at their yoga / Pilates studios. And yes guys do and are fairly successful if they ask out women at yoga studios.

No self respecting woman of any color would go to Ultra bar…. What a dump. It’s like saying there are too few women at a barbershop. I mean come on… There are plenty of trendy bars but bars army the place for meeting women here. If you don’t know day game this is the wrong city for you.

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I am a white girl living in Northern VA and I’m going to have to disagree with you. First of all, DC is known for unattractive men. I actually think that us girls date down because unfortunately there aren’t many options. If you can tell me where hot non-asshole, non-materialistic and down to earth men are, I’ll go!

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You guys are crazy, I live in DC and there are hot women EVERYWHERE. Half of them don’t drive so they walk everywhere like every other big city and stay in shape. A lot of them have boyfriends/husbands, but there are singles out there.

White American women over the age of 25 are pigs, period, end of story. And I’m being gracious here with regards to the age limit.

If I was living in DC, I’d be all over the non-whites, UNLESS they were from Europe.

Something to think about, mixed marriage kids are beautiful, rarely will you find and ugly kid… So go interracial and do the world a favor!!!

Maybe you’re ugly.

DC sucks for single women, too. Mostly because guys like you are too busy stereotyping and trying to pick up trashy, overly made-up whores in bars to notice that there are smart, attractive, down-to-earth single women all around you.

And sure, I have standards, but you don’t have to be a walking resume with more degrees than a thermometer to get my attention. Maybe all of the eyerolls you’re getting simply have to do with you being a douche, have you ever thought of that?

LA and NYC are far more entertaining than DC. No question about it. However, DC does have some good qualities. Girls here are pretty stuck up, so I’ve stopped going out with the sole purpose of getting laid. I’ll go out to have fun with my friends and that’s about it.

Here’s my advice:
1) Girls here are jealous as FUCK. Walk into a bar with your best bro, and you’ll get no pussy. Walk into the bar with two girl friends, you’ll be eye-fucked the whole time. Once they find out you’re not with them, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel.

2) DO NOT give any decent girl the time of day. DO NOT stare, DO NOT make direct eye contact. In fact, if I see a girl eyeing me, i’ll ignore the shit out of her for like 20 minutes then make a move. I did this two weeks ago at a bar on 14th street and ended up banging the girl at her place.

3) Have a good job. If you don’t, make some shit up. If it’s anything creative…well, good luck. Say you’re a Creative Director at an advertising agency….anything that conveys power…these girls have serious daddy issues.

4) Say you’re from out of town…this usually works pretty well, they’ll see you as a breath of fresh air because everyone hates it here.

In conclusion, treat them like dirt and they’ll stick to you like mud. Unfortunately, thats the only way to deal with the bar girls out here.

I agree that DC sucks for men. Women here are very shallow yet date ugly men. I go out dressed well, don’t have a lame government job, fit, and yet most women give their attention to ugly guys who can’t dress and are just totally boring. I do think there are a lot of attractive women here though. However, it seems a lot of women try to date way up or way down. There is no middle ground in this city from what I have seen. Plus, if you have a sense of humor and type A personality in this city you’re screwed.

Roosh,
First time reading this blog. Excellent. Simply excellent. You nail it all and you are dead-on. Keep it coming!

Are you sure that you’re not the desperate horny looser? (Question for rhetorical purposes only) Eat shit you sexist, racist cunt.

Bro -

Moved there from LA to finish school in 85. It was just as you desc back then! I just went celebate and worked my ass off. Despite wanting to stay on, DC was no place for me. Women were plain, slobby, conformists, laddecliming, attention whores. Just plain fat and ugly.

People in general were totally conformist. I eas often slagged for being from S CA. As if my opinion was lightweight and insignificant.

Clubs were shit at the time. Even now sell out 930 could never book decent bands. Far cry from early 80s LA scene.

Then there are all the gays, fuck even my roomate came out on me.

I had to leave…went back to LA then went abroad to Asia. Been here more ot less 20 yrs. US is so boring, done, unhip, uncool, going nowhere – and that was in early 2000s.

Fuck all you conformist DC fucks, you are the reason the nation has so many problems. You are shitty weekend hipsters – YOU HAVE BECOME YOUR PARENTS.

I live in Fairfax and I have to agree. I really think DC would be great if it combined the best of DC (the cool government jobs, colleges, important people, events, museums) with the nightlife and beauty of somewhere like LA. I guess you can’t have it all.

Thank goodness that Dulles airport is nearby and quite good so I can travel to real cities in Europe, I also find European girls like to work out more which is nice

Also amazing how much anti-white racism is in these comments. Yikes, not something I knew about DC.

Shave your beard and get a spine. You may do fine.

I still lol’d at the article but dude this whole site,blog whatever is just..sad

Pretty damn obvious this fool has spend maybe a month or two in DC and only hung out with like minded douche bags at douche clubs like Ultrabar. Hot women don’t go there because they don’t want to get hit on by slimy 30k wannabe millionaires that smell like Axe such as our author. Hey sorry nobody was impressed with your journalists equal to a mc job, maybe getting a personality and toning it down on the racism might help. Nobody here wants to listen to your ignorant shit. I find the only people who hate this city are the ones who can’t hack it. It’s not for wimps and you can’t be an idiot and get away with it unless you’ve been elected by other idiots. As for alternative culture some of you complained about lacking? Uh we gave the world hardcore punk. Henry Rollins, Dave Grohl, Bad Brains, all still rocking out in this city. I was born here, raised here and worked here, but I’ve been all around this country and some parts of the world. If you have a bad time, it’s on you.

@345 ur not too bright arent you ? in typical feminist fashion you dont think before you talk..I guess its 6 billion fewer braincells doing it so guess ur forgiven, u simply cant help it.
The man is born and raised in DC..so i think its fair to say that he spent more than a few months there.

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The dating market is going to suck for any guy, regardless of location, who rates women on that juvenile numbers scale* and acts as if less attractive people deserve less from their loved ones.

*Using that scale is basically the same thing as shouting “I’m insecure about my penis and I blame it for the reason that no one wants to date me and I take out my disappointment on women by critiquing their looks in a way that would infuriate me if turned around!”

Try something else, dude. Like loving women, maybe.

1) I disagree with this. The women in DC are far more attractive than the men here. I see plenty of fit and fashionable women in DC. Unfortunately, the majority of women in DC are flaky, unfriendly, unapproachable, and have type B personalities. A bartender once said so many people are dull here because they were the nerds in high school and now feel they’re cool since they work on the Hill but lack the social skills to be extroverts out in public.

2) I do agree with this. The people in this city are so dull and unfriendly for the most part. Again, they were nerds growing up and now think they’re cool or never learned proper social skills to have a successful social life. Also, the people in DC are the flakiest I have ever met.

3)I’m not so sure about this. I’m not a clubber but when I go to the bars it seems the women outnumber the men and I have no problem meeting women in this city at all. A lot even start chatting me up.

4) Nobody is forced to lower their standards. Their are tons of attractive women in DC. Some just lack a decent personality and are very flaky. There are tons of bad ones here but there are also tons of good ones (I hope).

5) I don’t agree with this at all. I have met several attractive women here who don’t have attitudes. I have yet to meet a princess actually.

6) This is just ridiculous. Granted, this is not a fashion forward city but the population has grown 17% here in DC the last few years and I find it hard to believe they are mostly unattractive, lame people.

7) ???

8) I haven’t come across this yet. I find it hard to believe women chase guys who work on the Hill making very little money in a lame job. I haven’t met these kind of women. People do ask what you do for a living a lot when they first meet you which is lame. I always call them on it and they laugh. :)

9) I don’t agree with this at all.

10) Adams Morgan is a playground for people in their early-mid 20′s. Other than that I haven’t run across any thugs.

11) Who cares? Do you want to date a nanny?

12) It is very expensive but I haven’t found the women to want to be treated like princesses or models. They’re just lame for the most part.

13) The Metro isn’t bad at all. I ride it regularly and there have been very limited issues since I’ve become a regular Metro commuter.

14) The weather isn’t bad at all. I’m from MA and it is much worse there.

15) I don’t know about this statistic.

Welcome to a field training in self-pitying sexism and racism. How pathetic.

Wow! I’m appalled at some of the comments. I can’t believe you all think DC chicks are flakey, overweight, and unattractive.

There are plenty of us out there that have brains and beauty.

Maybe you should find new places to hang out.

Only thing I can tell him if he thinks it’s that hard for a decent looking white guy he should try being a black guy in dc. He would’ve hung himself by now lol

The thing about DC is that it is full of timid, unattractive and boring men who don’t make that much money. Maybe the sex ratios at particular bars are bad (I’ve never been to Rumors, and can’t imagine going), but relative to other cities your odds are pretty good with any random hot chick due to the weak competition. NYC has much hotter girls, but I’ve always had more luck in DC since the quality of men is much higher in NYC as well.

Assuming what has been discussed here pertains to DC itself I agree, the women suck. However if you extend your range a bit farther out, say beyond Arlington and Old Town and into Fairfax you’re more likely to meet women with more of a southern vibe. Southern belles who have been raised to have a sense of style and charm, who care about their looks, and are generally more friendly and interesting and fun. Nova isn’t southern like Richmond or Charlotte but you can find enough of that aspect in certain places to make you realize how lacking DC is in quality women.

You are so right and it is just as bad for a white gay guy. So many ugly guys running around in oxford button down shirts on Saturday night in Dupont. I absolutely hated living in DC area and moved back to Los Angeles after 10 months of living in arm pit DC.

No FastballMike, even more boring and stuck up in NOVA. Resided in NOVA and could not believe how many frumpy people I saw running around in sweats that hugged their fat. It is just the pits.

I grew up here in DC which I call the dump. I then left after college and attended grad school on the west coast. what a difference from the women. You did not have to be a stud to get a good looking women who would support you out there. I knew a guy that was a park ranger that was dating a law student from UCLA. Women are so much better out there and pretty much anywhere else. I travel a lot as well. NYC, Miami, Scottsdale Az, Dallas pretty much all of the tight cities. They make DC look like garbage. This article is right on the money. If you never live anywhere else but DC area, then I feel sorry for you. You have no idea how much better life can be with women. Don’t try to convice yourself that other parts of the country are just as bad they are not. Women in DC see men as one giant ATM and that is it. Bar none, it has the ugliest women in the country. The men have some blame here as well. Too many goober nerds who let these chubbly wubblies get away with their behavior. If you are not a total nerd or goober, go west young man, or go south and find a good woman. Stay here and get one of these women, and kiss your good life goodbye. Also this is not a recent change I have seen this go one for over 20 years in this area. It NEVER gets better only worse over time.

OMG…what an arrogant, over-confident, racist pricktard! You would be doing DC a favor by leaving. But then forcing your presence on another town is just wrong!

WOW,seems like alot of losers. Most of you A. Have NO game B. Fatties yourself,but you think it’s muscle. C. Hate women. D. poor and broke. E. stupid F. white and racist G.gay

Absolutely spot-on Roosh. I was raised in this miserable region. Women in this city are wretched.

Please keep up this excellent blog.

You sir, are a faggot.

Btw this blog is pathetic, you can’t get a date because you’re an absolute twat, so you internalise your self loathing and channel it into this fake ego about how women are inferior. Even the fatties don’t want you! Ahahaha.

Sound like a black guy who is mad girls with a brain hate nigs, lol sad but true!!

I’m not sure where my friend found this article, but after listening to be bitch about the scene inside the Beltway for the last year he forwarded this link to me. Roosh, your fifteen points could not be more spot on!

I moved here a year ago and will be getting the hell out of here as soon as my job is complete. I feel like I’m just doing time here waiting for my sentence to end.

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