20 Reasons Why I Don’t Want To Live In America Anymore

5 Reasons From Estonia:

5 Reasons From Lithuania:

5 Reasons From Poland:

5 Reasons From Ukraine:

Do you notice something in common with the photos? The girls are cute, but they’re not all hot. In selecting them I aimed for the 7 range, which would more fit the profile of girl-next-door than model.

I purposefully picked girls that exist in high numbers in their respective countries. The girls above are definitely above average, but you won’t have to walk around for long to find this level of talent. Any day I go into a club I will have a couple chances at the girls like the ones above, even if it’s a sausage fest. There seems to be no shortage of bangable girls, as if there is magic womb that continuously spits them out.

You’re probably thinking, “Well NYC or Miami has these types of girls everywhere, too.” Great, but are banging them? Are they giving you the time of day without attitude? Are they fun to interact with? Do they know how to please you? Are you happy with them? If the answer to those questions is yes, then congratulations, you’re the man.

But I know how the situation is for the average man in most American cities. Girls like the ones above are intensely pursued by many men and a growing list of qualities are needed to land them with consistency. At the minimum you need game, which takes a couple years of practice to get at a high level. You’ll then be able to easily bang girls, some cute and some average, but good luck trying to experience meaning with them. In Eastern Europe it takes longer to bang, but it’s easier to have meaningful—and dare I say fulfilling—relationships. Most importantly, the girls above are attainable, meaning they’re not out of reach even if your game isn’t yet at an advanced level. In some American cities you need to bring the Britannica of game just to get with 6s, assuming you can find them.

Even in a tough place like Kharkov, Ukraine, where a special game is needed on girls who are more simple-minded and transactional, I wouldn’t have to think for a second in picking them over American women. If you rather have femininity, beauty, and homemaking skills over sarcasm, ball-busting, snark, and flip-flops like I would, then the choice is clear: Eastern Europe.

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  • West LA

    Interesting post…
    Many of these women look very appealing.
    Are these pix of women you met personally?
    If not, are these pix from women’s online dating profiles? Or … ? Just curious.

    [Roosh: Pics are from VK.com. Though be care about judging local talent based on sites like that. It's always better on the ground.]

  • Ricah

    Roosh,
    Based on your travels in Europe and South America do girls in Europe appreciate men with money more so than in SA? I have read that looks and game are more valid in SA (the taxi driver with a model looking girl for instance), but I am not sure.

    [Roosh: Farther east you go, the more money enters the picture. But if you go down the money road you'll probably end up getting played pretty bad. I don't recommend it.]

  • greenlander

    So when is Bang Ukraine coming out? I’ll be the first buyer.

    [Roosh: Historically, it takes me 9 months or so to release a Bang guy after I leave a country.]

  • Brandon

    Jesus Christ. I’m from WV. The whale state. Let me outta here!

  • Zorro

    Totally agree. I was in Chesky Krumlov (Czech Republic) and bumped into a woman who was the CLONE of Catherine Zeta-Jones.

    Awesome women. Epic women.

    Ours are cows.

    Moo.

    Seriously. Fucking Moo.

  • Mike

    That is definitely 20 awesome reasons to leave America. American men need to go on strike against women in our country! Lose 30 lbs out on a dress and at last try to look like a woman!

  • Rakishness

    “But I know how the situation is for the average man in most American cities. Girls like the ones above are intensely pursued by many men and a growing list of qualities are needed to land them with consistency.”

    True. That’s why you need to day game/approach your ass off. Because if you live in a major city at least there’s a revolving door of recent transplants.

    But I get what you’re saying. Major cities have tons of hot chics but for every decent looking girl you see there’s 50 guys trying to get her.

  • The Prophet

    Too true, Roosh. There are girls that look like those photos in the USA, but you have to work your ass off to get them with any regularity.

    I wonder if you will ever come back to the USA. The shock you will have when you return to the USA may be too much to handle.

  • deb the slayer

    Roosh!!! I want my little black book back!!! these are my girls!!!

  • beta_plus

    Those are 7s? Then what’s a 9?

    I really need to get away from North America and North West Europe.

  • JackBlack

    “the Britannica of game” … LOL

  • Rakishness

    @beta_plus

    I know right? Maybe I’ve been living in DC too long. Those are 8-9s in my book.

    [Roosh: For me too before this trip. But you get exposed to them so much that they become solid 7s. You see some pretty goofy guys with girls of this caliber. And they don't have money, status, or game.]

  • http://www.youtube.com/matthosszone Matt H.

    So are you saying you’re gonna settle down in Eastern Europe?

  • burmesedelight

    I just got back from Japan (I’m an asian guy who is into asian chicks) and I must say the talent there beats the shit out of the United States. Traveling has definitely put me into perspective of what a sad state the US is in.

  • Jim

    Those women are gorgeous. It’s getting to be FO time from the USA.

  • Marmot

    So true. Bravo.

  • Sam Spade

    Ukrainian bachelorette #1, please. I’m on my way to JFK right now.

  • kankles

    4&5 from estonia are bangin’. I’d rate them 9′s.

  • Rivelino

    roosh is changing the face of dating in america. fuck yeah

  • Rivelino

    “If you rather have femininity, beauty, and homemaking skills over sarcasm, ball-busting, snark, and flip-flops like I would, then the choice is clear: Eastern Europe.”

    well said

  • AssNeck

    I look at turn of the century photos of my Lithuanian ancestors and see the women are pretty and feminine. The few Lithuanian-American birds I have met are basically just like any other white American girl now, however. Actually, they may be a bit worse as some have horse faces.

    Also, my Lithuanian ancestors were dark like Italians or Greeks. I see from your pics that not all Eastern Europeans are blond haired/blue eyed.

    [Roosh: Yes this is why I wanted to post a lot of pics. Blondes are mostly a minority, though in Lithuania and Ukraine they do a lot of fake blonde coloring. Bottom line is you find incredible variation of different color, hair, and skin variations. My favorite look is Estonian: black hair, white creamy skin, and blue eyes.]

  • AssNeck

    One thing that puzzles me. If you get seriously sick or injured in SA or Eastern Europe, how would you get medical care? Is it free like in the UK or do you keep enough money to pay for it if it happens?

  • Alpha Skype

    I live in Estonia. My notch count for Estonian women alone is probably around well over 40. The best part is, you don’t even need game here. Just be sociable and good-natured, and you barely even need these things if you’re good looking.

    Funny thing is, my co-workers have heard of you Roosh.

    They were dissing on you in a major way, basically saying you sound like a jealous hater who values hos over bros.

    These guys also get a lot of women, probably more than you based on what I’ve read of your blog, although in all fairness, they get with a lot of beautiful women through work events.

    Anyhow, sounds like you’re a marked man here in Estonia. Too bad because personally, I can’t ever see myself leaving this place. Girls are amazing and accessible, and I just keep meeting new ones all the time.

    [Roosh: Yeah I'm more "famous" in Estonia than even Iceland and Denmark, and Bang Estonia is not even out yet. I want to go back for the :laugh: .]

  • Tom Lemon

    Well then, why don’t you marry one and have whole passel of kids? You will be the patriarch of a big clan, your sons and grandsons will fight and drink and honor your memory. Eh?

    Just looking at these women, or fucking these women, is not enough. To be a real man you must impregnate a few of them.

  • RubberBand

    Those with experience in EE … which country is the easiest to pick up girls for an English language speaker??? …

  • Partizan

    Roosh, very impressed with that selection and I am a seasoned EE veteran. These girls range from 7-9s for me. Did you smash the lot of them?

  • Orson

    I don’t like the ones from Poland much…

    The Baltic ones are better..

    While EE would be great for a white American guy, I don’t think a black guy, or a Chinese or Indian guy, could realistically do well there…

  • Tim

    Thanks Roosh for this one. I’ve got Asia covered and banged ‘em all over there, but I know nothing of EE. This is gold.

  • Orson

    The ones I like most are the last one from Lithuania, and the first from Ukraine…

    But that is besides the point.

    The bigger question :

    Why are more of these women not immigrating into America? They could easily get a wealthy man here..

  • Alpha Skype

    I know black, Japanese, and Indian guys fucking multiple attractive Estonian girls here. They guys are mostly raised in the UK, Australia, or US though.

  • Orson

    I know black, Japanese, and Indian guys fucking multiple attractive Estonian girls here.

    Really?

    What are they even doing in Estonia? For all the PUA literature about the Baltics, Estonia is a country of what, 1.5M people? Same goes for the other two?

    Even a few foreign guys coming in could distort the country…

  • Wigwam

    Wow! Chicks like uglier than that in Canada have boyfriends in the 9-10 looks range.

    I am really baffled.

    God, we are completely spinning our wheels in North America. Sure I can get girls like that, but only every few months.

    By what Roosh says, it sounds soooo easy. All we can get easily here are 30 years old spinsters who haven’t hit the wall yet, but who have shitty personalities and a few small wrinkles starting to pop. Not much of a turnon.

  • http://www.themastersoffate.com Invictus III

    Went out last night (granted it was a Tuesday) but not a single girl I talked to came close to any of those women. What was even more, none of them were even very pleasant to talk to.

  • Orson

    over sarcasm, ball-busting, snark, and flip-flops like I would,

    You forgot to add ‘Fattitude’..

  • beta_plus

    @Rakishness and Roosh

    The real kick in the teeth is when you find out that they make better wives and mothers. There is literally no point in dealing w/western women, even by western womens’ own measures.

  • Phillyastro

    All you have to do is look at photos from US, Canada, etc. from 50 or even 35 years ago and try to spot a fattie. It is very hard. Those girls of the North American past would compete with these girls. Unfortunately diet, lifestyle, whatever takes so many North American 6′s 7′s and 8′s and reduces them down to 2′s 3′s and 4′s.

  • Rivelino

    some great comments.

    “God, we are completely spinning our wheels in North America.”

    exactly.

    “What was even more, none of them were even very pleasant to talk to.”

    even more exactly.

    unattractive chicks with bad personalities
    the worst combination

  • Trouble

    I’d give the one in the bikini an 8. Mainly because she’s wearing a bikini and you can see what she’s working with.

  • Rivelino

    “The real kick in the teeth is when you find out that they make better wives and mothers.”

    also true!

  • mano fan

    bro,

    let’s be real here for a minute. a lot of the things you talk about are valid, but there a cute chicks anywhere you go. you hate on america a lot. some of the stuff you say is true, but overall the united states is the best place in the world to live. there are attractive girls everywhere and a lot of smaller cities not on the east coast have chicks that have a lot of the qualities you write about in eastern european girls.

    you rationalize everything you do, but i’m sure there’s a lot of friends and family that you miss in the us.

    do you.

  • the passanger
  • Spelling and Grammar

    Roosh,

    There are a number of errors in this post and in your responses to the comments. You must have been sleepy when you wrote this content.

  • Trouble

    “let’s be real here for a minute. a lot of the things you talk about are valid, but there a cute chicks anywhere you go. you hate on america a lot. some of the stuff you say is true, but overall the united states is the best place in the world to live. there are attractive girls everywhere and a lot of smaller cities not on the east coast have chicks that have a lot of the qualities you write about in eastern european girls.”

    I sort of agree with this. I have a FB page with over 5K people and there are plenty of girls like the ones above. But I think Roosh means that the overall attitude of the girls in EU is better than the ones in the states.

  • Alpha Skype

    I went to the US for 6 months once. It was horrible. The women, if you could call them that, were totally manly. Even the cute ones had manly mannerisms about them. It made me realize how lucky I am to live in Estonia.

    I think American men are like McDonalds heavy eaters (the ones who go to McDonalds 10+ times per week. They’re so used to eating shit, they forgot what real food tastes like.

  • Taylor

    At 40 “mano fan”

    who wrote:
    “bro, let’s be real here for a minute. a lot of the things you talk about are valid, but there a cute chicks anywhere you go. you hate on america a lot. some of the stuff you say is true, but overall the united states is the best place in the world to live.”

    Until over zealous law enforcement uses their Soviet-Like powers (NDAA) and throw you in a jail cell without access to an attorney or Miranda rights. Those are what we call famous last words. The United States is only the best place in the world to live if you are female. American society severly undervalues men while at the same time severly over values women. No man who has spent time outside the anglosphere would write such stupid shit.

    “there are attractive girls everywhere and a lot of smaller cities not on the east coast have chicks that have a lot of the qualities you write about in eastern European girls.”

    Either you are a feminazi troll or a typical American male captain save-a-ho, women firster, beta orbiter. Or maybe your idea of an attractive girl is a fat sack of pig vomit that doesn´t shut the fuck up.

    You just got owned.

  • anon

    Great fucking post… fuck this shit hole, I’m heading to eastern europe soon.

  • Anonymous

    20 pictures say more than a 20 thousand words. thanks

  • Balddigger

    Originally from Russia I can say this much, this post is so true that it`s not even funny. When in Russia you only need to be sociable and pleasant with some sense of humor. No game is required. Then the next thing you know is-you bang 9`s every other day. Here in NYC the only thing that keeps me somewhat busy meeting women is living in proximity to Russian chicks and load of hard-core game. Otherwise I heard good things of Nashville, TN.

  • Lara

    I believe most Ukrainians are naturally dark haired.

  • K

    God damnit Roosh. Stop doing this to me. I’m a mouse click away from buying Dragon Naturally Speaking: Estonian and a one way ticket.

  • WestCoast

    Game the good and bad. The more this info gets out there the more beta providers go out there and end up ruining the entire place… Hope it doesnt get ruined by the time we’re liquid enough to make the big jump.

  • Orson

    They are not all good :

    Eastern European woman in US chokes boyfriend for not marrying her, and threatens to kill him :

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/nikoleta-karoly-choking-boyfriend_n_1570699.html?ref=weird-news?hpweird=y

    So some of what is said here is true, but don’t assume the difference is some magical quantum leap..

  • http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/ Rob

    Dumbest move I’ve ever made in my life was after living in Amsterdam & attending university there. An exchange program.

    I was only 22 at the time, and the absolute hottest little chick from Hungary moved into my dorm building. Her name was Zeta. I was dumbstruck like a little puppy, I never talked to her… until our going away party, which she attended. Everyone knew I thought she was hot, so I suspect she had heard.

    She came onto me huge, but I was so smashed at our party, I fumbled the whole thing. D’oh!

    The next morning, I was waiting in the hall for the elevator, and she was visiting some of her friends on the same floor.

    She came running up to me.

    “Where are you going?”

    “Back home, to Canada,” I replied.

    “Right now?” She asked.

    “Yes”

    “Do people in your country hug when they go away?”

    “Mmmmm, yes!”

    “Do people in your country kiss when they say goodbye?”

    “Uh huh!”

    We made out until the elevator arrived… then, I got in and left.

    I still remember walking with my luggage outside of the building… “What are you doing dumbass? Go back in there and TAKE HER!”

    Like a stupid SNAG, I kept walking.

    Sigh, it was the best relationship I’ve ever had. We never even argued!

  • http://www.frontierlivin.com Taylor

    Damn Roosh. You make it hard to be back in the U.S. I’ve got to get out of here.

  • rokiroo

    i super like this post.

  • Rudebwoy

    Wow, are you making fun of me Roosh. Your posts hit are so on the money, I have heard things about Estonia but now I have seen what all the noise is.

    Orson – go lay down son, your nonsense about black/indian guys not visiting these places is complete rubbish.

  • http://www.marvelousmanboobs.com/ David H. Fucktrelle-Male Feminist Extraordinaire™

    oh, roooshiepoops,

    those girls are malnourished….

    in America we have subsidized corn so even poor girls can buy soda and put some meat on their bones…

    y’know, more cusion for the pushin’
    LOL and I know you know about that first hand….

  • tart

    I look like these girls!! There are a couple that I am definitely better looking than.

    Now explain to me…why did my elementary school, high school crush and college crush marry Human Sausages?

    I..don’t…get…it. (Ok granted, the boys themselves are now fat, except one who looks thoroughly displeased with his wife…but all the girls were sausages when they first started dating at around 18)

    I think men in America want bigger girls…at least as teenagers…because of the boobies…But they forget that girls only get bigger from age 18…and then Whoaloa..Land whale wife.

  • http://www.partytravelsexlove.com Brianmark

    Roosh,
    I couldn’t find: VK.com

    Is this the correct name?

  • Your Mom

    Great post as usual. A little more salt in the wound for American men: I’ve had numerous EE girls who have lived in the US tell me that they consider American guys more physically attractive on the whole than their local populations. And if you’ve been to EE, you know this to be true. You will see straight-up bums with the girls posted above. So not only do we have a dearth of hot girls in the US but we also have a lot of competition among ourselves. An interesting case study is the city of San Francisco. Was there 6 months back for 10 days and literally did not see one girl as attractive as the ugliest girl posted above. I mean you cannot believe the lack of talent in this city. So you have a bunch of filthy rich financial and tech dudes (the concentration of wealth in the Bay Area is obscene) who literally cannot find a date. Completely mind blowing the number of guys there dating down at least 3-4 points. Most Americans’ eyes glaze over in revery when you mention SF because of its 1960s counter-culture associations and its admittedly breathtaking geography, but if you’re a single guy there in the 21st century you know it to be one of the layers of hell. No wonder they smoke so much green; I would need to be narcotized too.

  • Anonymous

    how can you possibly be traveling to all these great places with quitting your microbiologist job? I would like to quit my job and start looking for chicks outside US since I am so hopeless about finding one in America. How much income do you really need to sustain to go to places in eastern Europe. BTW, I ‘m a UMD grad just like you looking to go aboard… :)

  • tart

    I caught my girlfriend chatting online with another guy should i give her a second chance?

  • Bogart

    Damn, you call these 7s but they look like 8.5s to me. I gotta get out (of the US) more.

    If any of these girls were to go out in, say, San Francisco, they would be bombarded constantly by everyone from millionaire beta provider techies, to rich good-looking Stanford U football players, to super alpha older dudes who own big companies. In other words, no fucking chance for the average guy with nothing but personality and a bit of game to bring to the table.

    The average girls, by default get all the leftover alphas because there are so few hot chicks to choose from.

    So the normal greater beta/lower alpha with some game is going to be fucking 5s and 6s.

    What a shitty way for things to be skewed. Just like the rental and job markets. Fuck this place.

  • Bogart

    Another thing is that in your typical US city, you may see girls like this but nearly all of them will have some combination of the following:

    shitty tattoos covering much of their body

    shitty piercings and large plugs in their earlobes

    a screechy, grating voice and loud annoying laugh

    numerous undiagnosed mental disorders

    a partner count of over 30

    a bad alcohol or drug problem

    a dozen or more beta orbiters

    a half dozen alpha orbiters/fuck buddies

    at least one super alpha from the past that she pines for (that no one else will ever measure up to in her eyes)

    a horrible taste in pop culture – music, movies, etc

    the belief that she is a special snowflake and an 11 on the scale of 1-10

    an unbearable sense of financial entitlement

    a strong victim-identity based around faux feminism

    American Woman Stay Away From ME

  • the passanger

    Its all rosy during the first 5 dates/bangs.
    Do you have any idea how EE girls behave in LTR or marriage?
    No giggles, no cuddles, no smiles. Often, not even sex.
    Expect: buying her jewellery, clothes, cars. And of course, a house on mortgage.
    Expect she will fed soda, sugar, aspartame, HFCS, french fries and other toxic shit and vaccines to your children.
    Work like a horse, so she could buy new furniture, big TV to watch soap operas and fund her holidays in hot countries.
    All that while her mood and looks go down each year. Remember, EE are still within western culture. LTR are kind of similar.
    Your best strategy is bang her while shes still fresh, young, innocent, not brainwashed by capitalistic society.

  • Anonymous

    Roosh, your love for the blondes blinds you!

    A couple of these brunettes are 8-9, for those of us who like the Semitic look.

  • Thedude3737

    As others have mentioned…

    If those are 7s, I wanna see what the 8s and 9s look like

  • http://kidstrangelove.wordpress.com/ Kid Strangelove

    Shit. Information like this brings up my dilemma.

    I am originally from Russia but I will finally be getting my American citizenship in a few months. And I couldn’t be more excited.

    But yet I know that for all the freedom and opportunity that America offers a creative, smart, and hard working person like me, the dating pool is stacked against me. Even in NYC, I gotta game hard and accurate to keep the deck stacked in my favor and I sometimes wonder if life would have been simpler if I was back home.

    However, I will never give up om finding real, true and sustained happiness, unlike my friends, who are slowly dropping out one by one to date chubby girls over 30 and slowly die in offices because “it’s the adult thing to do”

  • baltic

    @Kid Strangelove

    When in the USA, speak with a cartoon russian accent and call yourself Ivan. American women should probably be attracted to that raw boorishness of russian men :)

    [Roosh: American women are NOT attracted to Slavic men.]

  • Bogart

    @ Kid S. Dude why on earth would you move to the USA NOW? I mean 20 years ago maybe, but now it is on the decline so fast that it will be total shit in a year or two. Opportunities? Maybe you know something I don’t. The economy here is absolute shit and there is nothing on the horizon that will restore it to the former glory. You sure it’s not too late to cancel your plans? I may be a little more alarmist than most, but then I read way more financial news than most. The USA is going to go through it’s darkest days of the past 85 years, very soon. Anything is possible: mass hunger, martial law, race war…..hope for the best but prepare for the worst friend.

  • Orson

    An interesting case study is the city of San Francisco. Was there 6 months back for 10 days and literally did not see one girl as attractive as the ugliest girl posted above.

    You must mean the South Bay, not SF city.

    SF has tons of women in the 8-9 range, and the competition is weak. The Marina, Union Street, etc. is swarming with attractive women.

  • beta_plus

    @Orson

    I spent a year in grad school in the bay area. Except for the area around USF (NOT UCSF), it was slim pickings. Though I have to admit that they did have decent attitudes.

  • Apocalypseman

    I’m currently back home in North America for a trip home. Last night I was out with my former football team for some beers. They are all jumping at the chance to give the one female in the bar attention (the waitress). It never ceases to amaze me how men will make desperate attempts in North America to flirt with a waitress.

    I live in London and rarely, if ever, see this.

    The interaction? She’s ball busting and acting like “one of the boys”. The guys amp up the flirtation, while my d is now soft. This sort of foul mouthed behaviour from women is just no longer attractive to me. It’s hard to believe I even found it attractive at one time, and probably explains why I never found any girls worth more of my time. The sarcastic, man-like jokes and behaviour are just not attractive and wear off.

    Guys look in the mirror. Stop rewarding girls like this with attention. They don’t deserve it.

  • Bogart

    “SF has tons of women in the 8-9 range, and the competition is weak. The Marina, Union Street, etc. is swarming with attractive women.”

    For those not in the know, these are the neighborhoods where a tiny one bedroom apartment can easily cost you north of $3000 a month, where nobody but cheesedick SWPL yuppies hang out. The Marina and Union St. are absolutely Gold Digger Central. You’ll have great luck if your a trust fund faggot.

  • Orson

    I consistently see the better parts of SF with a lot of hotties and very little competition. It is a mini-Manhattan.

    Expensive? Again, a mini-Manhattan.

    Gold-diggers? As opposed to what? Which women are not gold-diggers?

    The rest of the Bay Area sucks, of course.

  • Orson

    Roosh’s writing might not just get a lot of guys to go swarm these countries (and as I said, the baltic states are tiny).

    But a lot of women might end up emigrating out and going to America.

    I mean, the whole point is that more attractive women exist in these countries, while the men there are beta and unattractive outside of their own country.

    Arbitrage exists in both directions. Any of the girls pictured here could leave for the US and marry a wealthy man who ALSO has better Game than her compatriot men…

    So these women are in the wrong place as much as American men are in the wrong place.

  • AssNeck

    “Its all rosy during the first 5 dates/bangs.
    Do you have any idea how EE girls behave in LTR or marriage?
    No giggles, no cuddles, no smiles. Often, not even sex.
    Expect: buying her jewellery, clothes, cars. And of course, a house on mortgage.
    Expect she will fed soda, sugar, aspartame, HFCS, french fries and other toxic shit and vaccines to your children.
    Work like a horse, so she could buy new furniture, big TV to watch soap operas and fund her holidays in hot countries.”

    If she exhibit sthese behaviors you stop them right away and don’t get into a LTR with her. Just let her know who is boss.

  • DistinguishedGentleman

    First off, well done on properly identifying a 7. I know lots of guys who consider these 9s and 10s because the female situation where they are from is so tough.

    Also, yeah, there are far more chicks of this level rolling around Miami, NYC, (and I’d toss LA in there too). Are the decent to interact with?

    Honestly they are not that bad. You *assume* it’s a horrific interaction because of your time in DC, but you’ve never lived anywhere else USA which largely nullifies you opinion in this particular case.

    The key is this – these chicks KNOW there are tons of chicks walking around who are EXACTLY at their level. In other words, they really aren’t that special in these venues.

    Lesson as always – it’s a numbers game.

  • DistinguishedGentleman

    @Orson

    No, SF does not have tons of “8s and 9s” walking around. I wholeheartedly agree with beta_plus’s opinion (slim pickens).

  • Orson

    #79 DG,

    You’re wrong. I see many such women who are 8s and 9s in the parts of SF I mentioned. This is under the same scale that pictures the women here as 7s.

    It is a mini-Manhattan. Having spent time I both, I don’t see Manhattan, on average, as any better or worse than the Marina/Union Street/North Beach parts of SF..

  • Orson

    There was a comment here earlier that explains that SF is very good for scoring with 8s and 9s :

    http://www.rooshv.com/15-reasons-why-washington-dc-sucks-for-guys#comment-44182

  • EE guy

    Please have a good time chasing a chick whose goal in life is to marry at 22, have a kid and then divorce after a year so you pay the alimony and she continues sucking someones cock in Turkey while working as a pole stripper. All girls (except first two Estonian ones and the first from Ukraine) posted above look like trashy brothel or kebab kiosk workers – dolled up working class material you see everyday. Happy time kissing a girl who eats black or muslim cock for breakfast because she is too good for local men and is absolutely loathing her poor country! :)

  • Anonymous

    ^Eastern Euro’s man’s trash is American man’s treasure.

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  • MM

    The physical appearance is essentially the pretext. It puts into focus what women, as a group, are saying underneath when all pretext is stripped away. In other words, distilled to words these photos say this:

    American women>> “we expect the highest performance of men (including and especially of their game) while we will offer nothing in return”

    Non-American women>> “we value men and think we owe them something they value”

    Men, listen to what they are saying and respond, appropriately.

  • Mark

    There is one US state (out of the twenty or so that I’ve explored) where the women, even in relatively rural areas, are well above the American average, similar to what’s up here; also the women in said state tend to be conservative and demure. And in some parts male competition is extremely weak. It’s almost paradise. I lived there for three years, some of the best times of my life spent there. There are some serious problems with the women, though, but if you get them when they’re girls, it’s all fun. Still, I can’t morally tell where it is. Consider it a secret.

    But much of the Northern USA is pretty attractive, on average. It’s the attitude and naiveté that makes American girls inferior to foreign-made ones. On the whole, I think American girls are underrated by people like you, Roosh. (Not that I don’t greatly respect your insight…)

  • Mike

    Love Bogart’s list so true! Many American women have several of those at the same time.

    Roosh is right on about American women, sure there are some good looking ones but the way they act just makes them disgusting.

  • Real Talk

    The last “Lithuanian” is a Canadian actress. Carly Pope. Pop her name into Google Images and that same photo comes up.

  • Orson

    The last “Lithuanian” is a Canadian actress. Carly Pope. Pop her name into Google Images and that same photo comes up.

    Damn…. she was the best one out of the 20.

    Sort of takes away from the narrative being presented…

  • Orson

    Actually, I also have doubts about the bikini Estonian.

    It doesn’t get that warm there in the summer, and the vegetation in the background doesn’t seem to fit either..

  • @73 aocalypsemen

    and if it were a hooters, it gets worse….

  • the passanger

    Just go to MonoBar in Warsaw on saturdays…
    Roosh, did you hung around there?
    All 7s,8s,9s and occiasionaly 10s. Nothing really below that. Most way below 30yrs.
    Paradise:)

    No one on the corner has swagger like us
    Hit me on my Burner prepaid wireless
    We pack and deliver like UPS trucks
    Already going hell just pumping that gas
    All I wanna do is (BANG BANG BANG BANG!)
    And (KKKAAAA CHING!)

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  • malek

    Nice thoughts bro..totally agree with you..men nowadays just busy scoring with hot and sexy women that doesnt even know how to cook a simple..would rather have a women that can cook for me, make me happy than full-of-sarcasm women

  • elmer

    “Nice thoughts bro..totally agree with you..men nowadays just busy scoring with hot and sexy women that doesnt even know how to cook a simple..would rather have a women that can cook for me, make me happy than full-of-sarcasm women”

    see my Spearhead essay on this topic :

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker

  • Mr magic

    Modern woman sees the modern man as in ATM thats it and thats all……..

  • the passanger

    Despite all the technological developments made solely by men. Internet, shopping malls, washing machines, cellphones, airplanes, art, cars, we can list these for hours…
    No respect, no appreciation from american women. Nadda, nilch, zippo, big fat zero.

    The only relationship attitude women believe is right is: either i can be a wife or a whore. Its the root of the problem. The islamic model is also bad (harem of 4 wifes) for guys: few men have women, the rest has no pussy.
    So, mr Wise Man, what is ultimate solution?

    Here comes the Holly, Master, Divine state of affairs:
    women should make love and being supported by multiple men. Until certain age, of course, lets say 38 or 40, after her kids turn adults.
    Only then women will be happy, cheerful, feel safe financially, sexually open, energetic and much wiser than currently.

  • the passanger

    The other reason behind this women for multiple men life, is that currently women do bang guys aside from marriage or LTR. So it happens either way.
    But why it has to be hidden? Why all the stigma, frustration, name calling, fear? Lets face the truth once and for all: people are polygamous. Men AND women. So why can’t we admit and behave openly according to our nature? Its self denial, rape against the cosmic laws.
    Fuck monagamy, nobody is going to be fulfilled within it in the long term.

    Hey, your local priest or politician would probably kill me for saying this.

  • Fer

    @Roosh,, how did you do all your trips,, did you work abroad or something like that??.. becasuse it looks quiet expensive.

  • aha

    Lithuanians are usually lighter than in these pics, those don’t look like typical Lithuanians.

    An 7 in the EE will do well even with the local men, she won’t get a millionaire alpha, but she CAN get a stable, ok looking beta provider. That is if she wants to. These women can.

    And yea the ticket to America is at least 1000$ and most of them can’t afford to stay in the States (work is illegal). So very few EE chicks will come out to the States.

  • Orson

    So very few EE chicks will come out to the States.

    They can immigrate the same way every other immigrant does, including from places a lot poorer than EE.

    There are many channels.

  • Anonymous

    “Please have a good time chasing a chick whose goal in life is to marry at 22, have a kid and then divorce after a year so you pay the alimony and she continues sucking someones cock in Turkey while working as a pole stripper”

    You answered your own question – don’t marry them.

    “All girls (except first two Estonian ones and the first from Ukraine) posted above look like trashy brothel or kebab kiosk workers – dolled up working class material you see everyday”

    That’s the entire point of his post.

  • Rael

    http://vk.com/id47310134

    … Mariska Oblomova from Moscow, not Estonia …

    Roosh, really, fake pics? You need to resort to this?

    OK, here’s a real pic from a party I went to recently in the USA …

    http://lostinsound.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/edit-IMG_2299.jpg

    Notice this is a random crowd shot …
    the focus in this photo is the stage,
    not any particular person …

    Do you see all the fat women in the crowd,
    dressed like men,
    making no attempt to look attractive or sexy in any way?
    No?
    So where are they?
    You should find women like this in any crowd shot
    anywhere in America, right Roosh?

  • Henrik

    Yet again, GOOD job Roosh – I’m gonna join you in Ukraine soon – Regards, from the positive Dane ;)

  • Face pics?

    Knowing what estonian girls look like, I REALLY doubt, that the girls in pictures 1, 3 and 5 are estonians…

  • http://3rddimension.wordpress.com War in Heaven

    What are the Twilight movies? A bunch of guys pedestalizing and supplicating over a 4!!!!! Trolololololol

    Seriously though, I did not see any of the series. I hope my one line description was fairly accurate.

  • JIm

    South America vs Eastern Europe?
    I am planning a trip in a few months. I have it narrowed down to South America or Eastern Europe. If it would be easier to narrow it down to 2 countries lets take Argentina and Ukraine. Which has the hottest girls? Thanks

  • some guy

    just like to point out that although you pulled these images from vk.com, lot of them are not from the countries mentioned

    2nd girl Marishka Oblomova from moscow
    3rd girl
    4th girl
    5th girl Maria Ignatenko
    6th girl
    7th girl Diana Minosyan russian
    8th girl
    9th
    10th girl Carly Pope canadian actress
    11th girl
    12th girl Olga *Ola-la* Chesnovskaya
    16th girl some chick from russian pick up forum http://cs10377.vkontakte.ru/u83074783/139073136/z_1e898bef.jpg
    17th girl Ira … Biletskaya http://vk.com/biletskaya_ira

    when u hitting canada? I swear to god, canadians are total pussies and bitches are fine, low obesity rate up here..

  • Henrik

    WHO cares where these ladies are from – THE POINT is … They all differant from the BIG FAT ASS COWS we’re used to deal with – and wishes so much to strangle … If they not BIG and FAT, they easy offend and hysterical … IF not that … They full of lies and will betray you whenever they got the chance to do so… If not that THE big UGLY, FAT COWS Is SPOILED ROTTEN – The western men are so naive and asslicking, that they can use anything that walks or crawl – regardless how they are and look like.. There’s no inner nor outhere beauty in todays western female. IF so they either lesbians or bisexual.. WTF!!!

  • Mme

    Btw, it works both ways. I am so not into American guys, but men from France, eastern europe, Australia, Italy, etc etc..definitely more fun, less uptight and less weird about sex. Sorry guys. It isn’t just you.

  • Yalla

    I feel sorry for any girls who are stupid and easy enough to fall for boys like you.

  • madmax

    I totally agree about being sick of ‘witty’ girls….that sarcastic and comedy like shit gets old, soon. I’s no coincidence that I am European. I’d say girls in UK or Australia can be very ‘americanized’ I am genuinely making an effort to incorporate a bit of this snark shit it in my personality, but I’d rather have a more serious convo, which, of course, with women is a very bad move as most women like to talk about mindless shit

  • madmax

    111 Yalla

    ooooh…..don’t you cry babe…..BOOOOOOOHHHH!

    ;)

    You should feel sorry for girls who get raped or abused or end up in an arranged marriage, not girls who have ‘fallen’ out of THEIR own accord. I mean, it’s not like they were tricked into sex.
    A man offered himself to them and they accepted. It’s very simple. Grow up and stop blaming and making excuses.

  • Anonymous

    @76 Orson

    Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia are members of European Union, so people from there can live, study or work in any other EU country, for instance Scandinavia or UK, France, etc. American passport means nothing for those women if they can travel freely to Sweden, Finnland, Denmark, Germany and without any administration (up to 3 months in a ).

  • Marusya

    Im good looking , well educated +bilingual Ukrainian girl, who lived ( studied and worked)in Europe for more then 20 years (Im 33 now) can definetely say that living in Mediterranean countries (Greece, Italy,Spain etc) was a living paradaside to me in terms of men.Big variety of different ages,status and financial ability.Girls there are not so attractive, jealous and usually very simply dressed ,not speaking of their intellectual level and body types:) Moving to Finland, Germany and France, Monaco ,Swiss, we can go to the higher level of men and female in terms of their IQ and appereance but their attitude is very cold and needs some effort to work things out.Which can be a problem when you have a limited time during your travels.Coming to my country and Russia you will definetelly will be pelased with the situation: Not so many good looking men plus quantity of young beautiful girls and women with perfect bodies and souls are above needed.Pleasant personalities too.They also obey to their man almost as Tai girls:)but here comes trouble! They all want serious relationships and marriage plus money.They dont know what game or fun or fuckbody means! Even men find it hard to beleive that i want only sex but not a marriage out of them! So, my conclusion is, guys you should go to the countries with various resourts where you can find tourists or russian pple lets say leaving in Mediterranean countries lets say, do their mentality will be smth in the middle of russian and europinian.They will speak English too! And at the end , want to add that I love American men! They are the best for me! I m dreaming to come to NY and Manhattan or Miami and have a blast there! So, guys, you’ve got my point! Good luck!!!

  • YB13

    Great pics. I’m personally a fan of American women, and could possibly settle down with one when I hit my mid-30s..as of now at age 28..no thanks.

    Here’s why:

    1) Travel for work 20-25% of year to places like Atlanta, NYC, Vegas, San Fran
    2) 4-5 Weeks of Vacation time per year I want to use on intl destinations on my bucket list
    3) So why waste that even on a banging American chick possibly in Dallas/FW area

    Pros of an American GF at age 28:
    1) Guaranteed action every night

    Cons of an American GF at age 28
    1) Since 2009 have traveled to Greece, Spain, Portugal, Thailand, Taiwan, Vietnam, HK, Brazil, Serbia, Czech Republic, Austria, Germany, Slovakia, Poland where flags have been captured
    2) None of those travels take place with an American GF
    3) Use all of my hard earned money on one gf
    4) Use my spare time hanging out with other couples, doing boring shit
    5) Use all my vacation time on lame ass out of town weddings and overpriced beach resorts with no culture bc of a gf (these lame ass weddings are even worse for ppl with only 2 weeks of vacay time per year)
    6) As a result of all this lameass wedding fever be pressured into an overpriced mortgage, kids, etc preventing me from going back to grad school to alter my current dead end career path
    7) Likely end like a lot of ppl in their divorced mid 30s with regrets about what they could’ve done in their 20s instead of wasting it on one pain in the ass preventing me from pursuing bucket list travels/other aspirations
    8) Not being able to afford intl destinations i desire bc of an uncultured swine American gf

    I get that my lifestyle preferences are not suitable for everyone as the priorities of others might not necessarily be for me either. In this instance, I just had to explain why I refuse to settle down with an American gf at this pt bc I can’t afford to waste money and also precious time , which flies by oh so fast :)

  • YB13

    In relation to my last post, I did date an amazing person for half a year in 2010 that kind of fell apart bc of my constant shifting..but yeah..my work/scheduling circumstances rather encouraged me to go “the other route,” which I’m truly grateful for :)

  • http://bohemechinois.wordpress.com Jon

    I bet Roosh will settle in Europe. I got a hunch.

  • Eddie Morra

    @115 Marusya

    I know exactly what you mean after having lived in Kiev for over 13 years! I usually avoid going on holiday where there are massive amounts of Russian/Ukrainian tourists due to the fact that they are usually quite obnoxious, loud, drunk and generally disrespectful when on holiday (no offense). However you are definitely right about the women who go, that’s theonly reason why I would consider a holiday in those places as you are spot on, so listen to 115 Marusya guys. That’s one of the reasons I love Russian/Ukrainian women, they tell it the way it is and don’t get easily offended by a site such as this one. How many Western/American women would leave such words of wisdom and valuable advice!

    BTW @115 Marusya if you are ever back in Kiev give me a call))) If you have no complexes and like older men who keep in decent shape and dress well, I am 47 and American.)))

  • Wool Suit

    What a mind job! The first girl from Ukraine looks so much like my ex I had to compare pics for a couple minutes to be sure she wasn’t. She has that classic Ukraine facial/bone structure. Demure and yet highly attractive.

  • 785 Andrew Blaits

    I have read some of the sample pages of “Bang Poland” and I was thoroughly unimpressed. The diction in the short book carries with it a tone of egoism, self-importance, sexism, American exceptionalism,several social faux pas, humiliatory language, demeaning of Polish women,ignorance of cultural values, and last but not least, some racist quips. It is truly disheartening to see another person waste their life in an attempt to “score” with a woman from every nation, expecting them to be as open, liberal and having questionable morals like the many of the American type. What is further demeaning is your treatment of women as tools for males’ benefit; nothing more than a score on a scale used to determine the worthiness of having sexual intercourse or a false relationship with her as if she was a slave to you, commanded by your capricious and whimscal desires.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vallin.sfas Vallin

    “Well the U-ka-raine girls really knock me out
    They leave the West behind
    And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
    That Georgia’s always on
    my-my-my-my-my-my-my-mind…” -Paul McCartney

  • Skankee Doodle Candy

    Skanks, then. You want to leave to stick skanks.

    Way to miss that the exact same kinds of skank live around the corner from you and are at a bar right now awaiting your seed.

    American men – please stay in America so American women don’t run into you overseas as we flee here to get away from beer bellies, 40 year olds still playing video games, baseball caps worn at formal occasions, and small c–s…

  • http://www.penpalsnikolaev.com/ Billgreen54

    Bang Ukraine is total trash. I have lived in Nikolaev for the past five years. I am married to the most beautiful woman in the world. I wouldn’t waste a dime on this book. Teaching English here will educate you about Ukraine and the real people here. There is another side to all of this. THis book is total trash.

  • Mr. Rubirosa

    My personal jugde to pics Roosh posted….i have to say that most are not so good looking in my eyes except the fifth girl for Estonia, Lithuania and Ukraina, for Poland its hard to choose one but maybe the first one. My favourite is the lithuanian girl, really lovely face ;)
    In a scale from 1 to 10 the top are around 7,5…most around 6 and 6,5.

  • Rookies

    Dude. Lithuania 5 is Carly Pope, an actress from Vancouver, Canada. Do a reverse image search. Haha, what a joke.

  • ho

    Give this man a tampon STAT, he’s painting the walls red.

  • alpha

    lol wtf??

  • alpha

    when you got gold, you polish, not piss

  • Elisabeth

    the girls in Ukraine are more simple minded than America? :D loooool