I’m familiar with two ways to rate a girl’s appearance: the binary scale and the 1-10 scale. The binary scale tells only says if a girl is bangable or not, but doesn’t describe the degree of bangability like the 1-10 scale, which my circle of man friends prefer using.

We calibrate the 1-10 scale by starting with 7, a rating that describes girl-next-door cuteness. She has no major flaws and is girlfriend material for 90% of guys. The problem with 7’s is one of relativity: while out with one you run into a handful of girls who are better looking than her. In most men this stirs thoughts of “Can I do better?”

7

An 8 is very cute. The relativity problem disappears but one of personality emerges instead. The hotter a girl is, the less she has had to work on her personality to be liked by others. Because her looks have been enough to get her what she’s wanted throughout her entire life, she does not have the training or desire to go the extra mile to please and engage you.

8

A 9 is what most men would describe as “hot.” Getting a 9 seems to be more luck and timing than skill because—besides celebrities—there is no man who consistently gets them. The personality problem you had with an 8 is multiplied with a 9 in logarithmic fashion.

9

The only difference between a 9 and 10 is makeup, clothing, lighting, or photoshop, so therefore 10’s do not exist naturally in the wild. Describing a girl as a 10, or dime piece, is unreasonable since you are admitting that the girl is perfect, something that no human is.

A 6 is a girl who is cute when she works at it, but her flaws are easier to notice. Still, it’s a respectable rating. Anything under a 6 means you need to drink alcohol to get aroused for sex, especially when you get into the “monster” range of 3 and below. Every man has banged a monster in his life, because men are unable to resist free, no investment sex.

Except me, of course.

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That’s a fairly accurate description of the 1-10 scale. You can further break it down into 3 categories (face, tits, ass/legs) that each get a scale of their own and use the aggregate of those scores to create the larger 1-10 scale ranking.

and yes, quantitative analysis, it’s just that deep.

You have to admit, though, that this is all relative. I think your 7 girl is much better looking than your 8. But your 9 is as drop-dead gorgeous as they come, probably because she seems bitchy, which skews any beauty assessment higher.

Definitely a well-reasoned scale. I’ve always based mine on five being “eh,” six being where “cute” starts and going from there. That leaves me with a majority in the 7-8 range, and makes it difficult to go higher. (Good point on the 10s being nigh impossible.) This has not sat well with many of my friends, who toss around their 8’s and 9’s freely, and rarely objectively rate someone 7 or lower.

Your 7 is downright nasty. The 9 is a 10 in my book.

I think you are off by one point. That 7 is a 6, that 8 is a 7 and that 9 is an 8.

Here is a real 9
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/t4/media/G/gallery/orangebafta/rachelmcadams_300.jpg

I beg to differ on the nonexistence of 10s. Case in point:

http://esther.el.cx/pics/events-sightings/estherfulllf1.jpg

even for you guys who only go for white chicks, I challenge you to find a flaw.

go.

sk3ptic:

Rachel McAdams is beautiful, but she has no body and her beauty is more “cute.” She’s more the kid sister type.

Roosh — does your scale account for physical enhancements through plastic surgery? These include, but are not limited to:

breast implants
nose job
liposuction
lip injections
botox

Significant natural beauty is extremely difficult to find.

As for 8s and 9s, they are VERY rarely without boyfriends or husbands. If you have the opportunity (whatever it may be), you run with it immediately.

you guys are on crack. roosh, your 7 is atrocious. i think judging a girl’s appearance is completely subjective. one man’s rachel mcadams is another’s giselle. also, what about decimals on the point system? you can’t just hop from a 7 to an 8 or even an 8 to a 9.

i do, however, agree with jay that natural beauty is very difficult to find these days. you should have two separate scales: one for superficial, paid-for, enhanced beauty versus one for natural, simpler beauty (nothing wrong with either, in my opinion).

Fake boobs are an automatic turnoff for me. I can’t give a chick with fake boobs who needs her hair and makeup to be flawless in order to be a 9 the same rank as a chick who can fall out of bed, throw on some sweats and toss a hand through her hair and still pull up to an 8-9 range. They can’t even be in the same game.

I think this one is a 9.5, if not a 10. Comments?

http://www.imninalu.net/BeautifulLadies_file/KristinKreuk.jpg

These point systems are highly subjective but I’ll echo JGatsby’s comment. Non-surgically enhanced beauty should be given a premium for its rarity. Among my own idiosyncracies are an appreciation for blue or green eye color with black or dark hair (just like Roosh’s 9 or Kristin Kreuk). Hot women always have boyfriends and the transition from one boyfriend to the next occurs in the blink of an eye so yes, getting one is a combination of timing, luck, and invariably, tight game.

what’s really interesting about this post, and sites like hotornot, is just how much more men *agree* on something like female beauty that is supposedly subjective and immune to generalization. sure, the numbers might swing +/- 1 but the trends are unmistakeable. most guys reading this agree that the attractiveness of each girl you posted increases toward the bottom photo (arjewtino being the notable exception — that first girl is no way as good-looking as the second).

if 40 guys go out to a bar they’ll all be gawking over the same 2 or 3 girls. there will be amusing arguments quibbling about the tenths decimal place of the 8s and 9s, but there won’t be any mistaking which girls are in the running.

i’d stick with the dime piece rating. calling a girl a 10 isn’t saying she’s perfect as much as it is saying she’s three sigmas away from the mean.

I have to agree with Arjewtino on your ‘7′ girl being hotter than the ‘8′. I’d give your 8 a 6.5-7. But I guess its all personal preference. The ‘9′ girl is very pretty.
You have to attribute personality into it a bit, too. I’d take a nice 7 over a shitty 9 any day.
An attractive personality, to me at least, tends to add 1 or 2 points to your initial size-up.

Ah yes, the power of personality points. They can be the deciding factor in terms of whether a girl is wifeable, but in the initial sizeup personality points are a non-factor.

Rooshv,

Big time fan, I first started reading your blog about a year ago. I’m living on the panhandle of Florida, and in even in the Redneck Riveria your words still ring true.

Anyways, I’m visiting DC this weekend (Sat), where is the party going to be?
Love to buy a book and get it signed.

Apparently the heebs here are a bit out of sync with everyone else. Your 7 is at best a 5, suitable for post-bar street game but little else. Primary reason being that you can’t look at her face and tell with 100% certainty she is not in fact a man. Your 8 falls to maybe a 6.5 based on the ‘tries too hard’ clause (see below.) Your 9 is, well, a solid 9, but you need to give her some kind of handicap for being clearly Spanish and thus an unbearable nightmare when not actually fucking. Not that any of us would mind.

The ‘tries too hard’ clause automatically knocks at least a point and a half off a chick. As mike says, uh, says, a beautiful woman falls out of bed that way. I’ve seen more than enough of them to know it’s true. Your middle girl has a bottle tan, Lord knows how many different bottle hair colors and enough lip gloss to winterproof a Bayliner. That’s trying too hard. As discussed above, fake boobs are even worse.

The primary reason for this? When women try too hard, they are doing so not to impress men, but other women. What man turns to his buddy and says, “Man, check out that chick’s highlights”? None. (Well, none besides INPY.) Because we don’t give a shit. Only other women do. We don’t care about what brand of gigantic goggle glasses a woman decided to wear to the Mall; only other women do. It’s poor marketing. It’s like fishing with a pheasant gun; you might bag one if you’re lucky, but your aim is in the wrong direction.

The top girl says, “I like to herd sheep.” The second girl says” I wasted three hours getting my face ready to come to this waterfront bar so I’d look better than my girlfriends.” The last girl says, “You’re 100 years too early to fuck me.” Who do you think the guys are going to go gaga for?

Oh, and mike says, your flaw? Visible stretch marks. I won’t even hold it against her that letting a girl like that on top is like going rounds with Mike Tyson.

Roissy, much props for bringing Six Sigma into this. By your logic all we need to do is round up 380 or so women and we’ll find our 10 (Or 9.973, at least) A gentleman’s wager says, given the average DC sample, it ain’t happening.

whereas i pretty much agree with this scale, i think all of these girls could be equal in attractiveness if they were photographed in the same conditions. basically, if the 7 and the 8 could get the angle/hair/make up/photoshopping of the 9, they could all be relatively equal. i suggest you post photos where the playing field is evened out for better analysis. there are too many variables.

Totally subjective. Wouldn’t approach either 7 or 9. Attitude problems. 8 is the hottest, in my opinion, and not because she’s the stereotypical blonde with big boobs but because she’s smiling and seems to have a pleasant disposition……plus I’d love to play with those big boobs….

Jewcano, your analysis of the “tries too hard” clause is so on the money it’s scary. Way to pick up the ball and run with it.

Yes very subjective, while I’d always give a Kiera Knightley or the blond from Layer Cake a 9+ ~ 9.3? the thought of one of those two women actually being nice, thoughtful, knowing the perfect gift for you, etc. is not in harmony.
You can’t get there from a 9+. Although it is probably the hope of those of us still “studying” women that we can shape them to be that way with our alpha rays. Still I think by just living your life with character and a nice vibe - I call it flow - that is probably the only way a woman with that killer combo is ever likely to hook up IF the timing is also right too. Probably more time is spent in prep for the long shot than alot of us would like to admit, but we do end up with more women :) and we jettison the unworthy ones with relatively little pain. *I have a thing for the British and Austrailian accents too - or my examples would be just solid 9s

jewcano, true, we’ll have to go to 23 sigma to find a 10 in DC, which are odds so astronomically low that it makes this city the anti-dime piece, sucking in 10s from as far away as the orion nebula and turning them into 5s who smell like litter boxes.

“i think all of these girls could be equal in attractiveness if they were photographed in the same conditions.”

oh, my sides.

Maybe if they were airbrushed into a different person. I think giving the first two 7 and 8 ratings is being a bit nice. I’d shift the first two down by two points and the third down by me.

Perhaps living on the west coast has skewed my perceptions >_

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