When I first moved into my Dad’s house, I was a little nervous about my sex prospects. I’ve always talked a big game about getting laid with just game, but it’s easier to believe that when you have your own place and a good job.

For the first couple months I was hesitant to reveal my unemployment and basement dwelling status, but then I received encouragement from a player friend who had a home stint of his own and told me it doesn’t make a difference. Turns out he was right.

If the main way you get laid is through status or money, then living at home will shut off your poon supply, but if you get laid through game then you actually get more sex because you have more free time to hit on girls. It’s that simple.

And it gets even more interesting. I’d have these moments of self-doubt where I’d think, “Besides being this amazing man, I have nothing to offer girls. I can’t take them on vacations or nice dates. I won’t be able to get a quality girl like I would if I was more established.” But In the past year I’ve dated more amazing, intelligent, funny, passionate, and successful girls than I have in my entire life. I’ve dated girls who invested significantly more money into me than I have into them. I’ve dated girls who give me rides home because they don’t want me to take the bus. It’s not completely logical, but if you’re a guy you already know how flawed using logic is when it comes to women.

Bottom line: you will never miss out on notches by lacking a commodity like clothes, money, or auto that comes with very basic labor. As long as you offer something hard to gain and scarce (true game), then you will always be in demand, and don’t let the bonehead mass audience cause you to believe otherwise. For a short second even I believed it.

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With this logic, shouldn’t homeless men be up to their ears in pussy? It’s been a while since I have seen a hobo getting a ride back to his box from some woman in a Mercedes…

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True story

Roosh speaks the truth here. The two guys I fell in love with were both poor or in debt when I met them, and they were both incredibly intelligent, articulate, and amazing as human beings. The man I married was living with his mom when I met him, and he’s great husband and daddy material. There is a difference between a real helpless case and a real man who just isn’t born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

Coming from a poor background myself, I have no problem dating men that are ambitious, smart and dedicated, even if they are penniless. Almost all the the guys from poor families that I liked now make good bank. Of course I don’t fall for money or material possessions, so the vow for richer or poorer has already been tested.

On the other side of the coin, the rich kids I dated were generally horrible, used money to try to buy love (you can’t do that) had massive doses of self-entitlement complex. I know a story of a trust fund boy who didn’t care about working at all, travels Europe for fun, and fell in love with a Russian girl. He just gave her $50k because she was rather poor, even though she had just broken up with him (did he think he could buy her back?), and she didn’t keep the money.

BTW Roosh, you should read Predictably Irrational. It is a great book.

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hard to believe, but it’s true. but then like anon said above women are attracted not necessarily to the money (the rewards) but to the attitude the men have (the effort/ambition).

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Lemmonex:

99% of hobos are unambitious, gross, and mentally ill in an objectionable way. Hence - no hobo action! I do leave 1% open for hobo players like Jon Krakauer.

Anon, the flaw in your logic is that Roosh is just penniless. What have you ever read here to indicate that his ambitions and dedication extend to anything beyond getting laid? Has he ever even had a real job? I don’t know whether or not he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but his lifestyle of girl-chasing and Trustafarian-esque world traveling doesn’t fill me with that “husband material” vibe. 10 years after most people leave home for good, he’s still not supporting himself by, say, paying rent. Good husband material… ummm… okay.

I agree that money is not a requirement for a good mate. But we’re talking about a 29 year old guy who lives with his mom, and who’s career is blogging about the best way to get laid. The only difference that I see between Roosh and the horrible rich guys that you dated, is that they probably picked up the tab when you went out.

You know that while you’re tappin it, she’s got a career beta on the side with a six figure salary that can’t touch the inseam of her designer jeans ’cause she can’t give the “long term prospect” the impression she’s a ho.

An addendum to this theory: you also don’t need a particularly clean apartment to get laid.

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You won’t get an “inspiring” woman without money.

Great post. Being a poor man can be a great thing in the long run. Just imagine when you do get back to money and your own place.

Instant Rockstar status.

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This one made me smile.

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Oh DCJ, I never said Roosh was husband material. His idea that a lot of women do adore men who don’t have money is not wrong, though. The median personal income for Americans over the age of 18 was $25,149 in 2005.

The poorboys I loved were good long-term prospects, but they also got laid often in their early 20s. Maybe Roosh didn’t get laid enough in his early 20s, so he’s doing that now to make up for lost time. He does seem like he has more to him than just the pick-up stuff, but that’s the stuff that gets pageviews.

Ah… This isn’t really news. That’s about as obvious as “you don’t need money to breath the free air.” Or “chicks like sex too.” I think your next post should be “be funny and adventurous; and you might attract girls”.

DCJ–

You’re an idiot. Roosh DID have a great job as a chemist and managed to save up enough money to travel for several months on his own dime. I have to say as someone who is a self-made guy with a good job that what he did is no small feat. I don’t always agree with Roosh’s outlook, but the reality is that he showed a pretty tremendous amount of initiative in terms of achieving a goal.

I have to say that I agree here. Thoughout several periods in my life I was either living at home, in school, in grad school, etc and I was penniless, but I still managed to get a lot of ass. It depends though– girls that can’t understand how this could possibly be are usually the gold digging bitches that only date a guy because he has money anyways.

I recommend to all to read agnostic’s last post. Young women, below 25, don’t care much about money. Things would be different though if Roosh would date women his age.

“Things would be different though if Roosh would date women his age.”

Wrong. The closer they are to my age the better I got treated. Girls under 24 are becoming a waste of time

“but if you get laid through game then you actually get more sex because you have more free time to hit on girls.”

- No doubt about that. I used to peel tons of girls in my teens, with no Cash, just a joint sticking out of my mouth and lounging around the beach. Surfer Game….been going on since the 50’s.

But ask yourself, all things being equal, will you, yourself, get more girls broke or as a Millionaire?

Exactly. That is why I got off the beach and became a millionaire. Now I hit on topless girls in France at the beach.

I guess its all more or less the same.

Go figure.

-MPM

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Such total bullshit about “girls his own age”. I am an attorney and most girls I know happen to also be professionals. Some of them want another guy who is career oriented, but not because they need anything from him, but because they share values and want someone capable of supporting a family. Most of the professional women I know could care less about how much a guy makes since they make plenty on their own and enjoy not having to deal with a guy holding his higher income over their head. As Roosh said– feminism has really changed the money dynamic of relationships these days.

On top of all that- most GOOD women recognize that a good man is not measured by the size of his wallet. A good guy in his late 20s or early 30s may not have a ton of dough and may still struggle from time to time, but years down the road he may be more successful money wise than some spoiled rich kid or the play-it-safe type who has a high paying job at 24.

I can’t really speak about the US. However, the older the girl (unless she is over 40), the more marriage minded she will be. Marriage minded women do care about money. In Argentina, where women still marry around 25, most girls get seriously mariiage minded at around 23. So girls over 23 in Argentina do tend to care much more than their 17 year old counterparts.

about money

i was never into guys with a lot of money when i was “gaming” in my 20’s, it was of a turn-off…now that i am in my 40’s i wouldn’t turn a guy away just because he had money but the factor still turns me off if it’s the main motivation in his life. girls nowadays have their own cash..

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“Girls under 24 are becoming a waste of time”

I hear ya on that one, Roosh. Seriously, I look at the really young chicks and just keep walking. Do I find them sexually attractive? Yes. But do I think they’re worth the time? Nope and I’ll have a much easier time with older women.

Also wanted to stress that by girls under 24 i mean *American* or americanized girls.

“if you get laid through game then you actually get more sex because you have more free time to hit on girls. It’s that simple.”

TRUTH.

More free time = MORE SEX.

High school kids, college kids, trust fund kids, and unemployed minorities get laid more than working adults because they have plenty of free time.

10 InterestedParty - You won’t get an “inspiring” woman without money.

Why would we need “inspiration that only comes with money”?

Lemmonex -

That would be true if Roosh’s argument was that the poorer you are, the more you get laid. However, it would take a pretty tortured reading of this post to pull that lesson out.

The Dude -

I’m about to be an attorney, and I have absolutely NO interest in ending up with a “professional” woman. Many of my friends feel the same - we’re all looking for teachers and nurses, not lawyers and doctors.

PS The Dude - your comments/thoughts would be appreciated!

I’ve always said this is true about the DC area.

There is this myth that in the DC area, a guy necessarily has to be bucks up, or well-connected with a powerful job, to score hot girls.

The truth is, things are topsy-turvy in the DC area, and what you actually have is a lot of young, ambitious, career-climbing women who don’t need a guy with money or a powerful gig.

They’ve turned the tables on men, and now are just looking for a good-looking guy hook up with on a short-term basis, to screw. If it grows into a longer-term relationship, so much the better for the girl.

But the bottom line in the DC area is these young, successful women put much more of a premium on a guy’s looks and sexual desirability, than on his wallet.

For every 22 year-old naive, ingenue female intern and “staff assistant” in DC, looking to hook a powerful lobbyist, lawyer, or Congressional chief-of-staff, there are, like 10 young, ambitious, well-educated career girls who’ll hook up with a poor bartender or starving artist, as long as he’s hot enough.

And for every instance of that scenario, there are like 20 well-educated male geeks or striving congressional staffers who can’t get a date except with a fat, ugly chick, because the good-looking players like Roissy, or the sexy brooding, unemployed “creative” types like Roosh, have all the desirable girls (meaning 6 and above) tied up.

Well, not literally tied up, unless you’re Roissy…

;)

Young women, below 25, don’t care much about money.

Gannon and I are talking more about longer-term relationships, in which case the younger girl isn’t going to care about money.

If you’re just looking to bang her, though, certainly the 28 year-old will give it up more easily than the 18 year-old.

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Just wait until you start to lose your hair or get fat. Or until you realize how pointless drinking, screwing, and wandering around being a tourist really is.

AS–

Not sure if I mentioned this before… I am an attorney, though not presently working in the traditional legal field (I am in “government relations”). My present girlfriend works at an investment bank and makes more than I do, but has a far better attitude about work than a single chick I met or dated in law school. I have dated one or two girls early on in law school, but for some reason that environment really sours women for some reason…maybe it does the same to men as well.

I think you’re spot on with a girl who is a nurse– good money, but no attitude about the whole thing. I guess my point is that I want to date someone capable of making their own cash while not wanting to engage in a pissing contest with me about our careers. I have a few friends married to professional girls (doctors, PR people, etc) and they seem to be happy– I think it just depends on the girl.

AS–

I’ll add one more thing. I knew a lot of girls in law school who were happily married to guys who did other things like construction, banking, etc. and made less money.