25% Of American Women Are Mentally Ill

May 11, 2012Culture, Girl BehaviorRoosh

This is a guest post by Athlone McGinnis.

The USA has long had the highest rates of mental illness in the world, but the latest reports on the extent of it are still pretty shocking: mental illness struck one in five U.S. adults in 2010.

Among the highlights, people in the 50-plus age bracket had the lowest incidence of any mental illness (14.3%), while those ages 18 to 25 had the highest, at 29.9%. Women had higher rates than men: 23% versus 16.8%.

When broken down by racial and ethnic groups, the highest rates of mental illness were seen among people who reported two or more races (25.4%), followed by whites (20.6%), blacks (19.7%), Native Americans or Alaska natives (18.7%), Hispanics (18.3%) and Asians (15.8%).

This is an important story for American men looking to maintain perspective: at least a quarter of the women you run into at any given time are not going to be alright upstairs. When you take into consideration that the highly sought after 18-25 demographic has even higher illness rates and that many of the mentally ill go undiagnosed, you could be looking at a vastly higher proportion of crazy girls, possibly approaching 50%.

This can make success in the game a little tougher to quantify because a less than desirable outcome with any given girl could just as easily be due to the mental instability of your target as it could be to your own failings. When dealing with a mentally unstable girl, even the right moves can lead to her lashing out at you for no apparent reason.

This female mental health story doesn’t stop there. Have you ever wondered about the unusually high prevalence of female obesity in the USA? How is it possible that so many morbidly obese women can justify their appearance with absurd rationalizations that they possess “real womanhood”, “huge (read: fat) racks” and “womanly curves,” among other patently absurd claims? Have you grimaced as you watched some go as far as to eliminate even slightly overweight men as dating options, despite their own inability to stay at a normal size?

There are no coincidences here: obesity is corellated with mental illness.

University of Tasmania researchers studied data collected from 1,135 girls in 1985, and again 20 years later, and found “persistent obesity” was linked to the mood disorder…

“[Obese women] had twice the risk of depression, so it was quite a strong effect, ” he said.

“The researchers do not see the same effect in boys or men.”

Another article expands on this link:

Psychological disorders which obesity may trigger include depression, eating disorders, distorted body image, and low self-esteem.

Obese people have been found several times to have higher rates of depression. For example, David A. Kats, MD and colleagues at the University of Wisconsin-Madison assessed quality of life in 2,931 patients with chronic health conditions including obesity. They found that clinical depression was highest in very obese participants (BMI over 35).

Evidence from the Swedish Obese Subjects (SOS) study indicates that clinically significant depression is three to four times higher in severely obese individuals than in similar non-obese individuals.

This final study shows the correlation more clearly:

Obesity was significantly associated with any mood disorder (OR 1.23), major depressive disorder (OR 1.27), any anxiety disorder (OR 1.46), and most strongly with some individual anxiety disorders such as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (OR 2.64).

In other words: fat girls are quite likely to be nuts. The fatter she is, the greater chance she has some type of mental disorder. It’s no surprise that this news has been scarcely published in mainstream outlets, for fear of offending women.

Is it a coincidence that the most mentally ill nation in the developed world is also the most obese? The next question to ask is this: how did we get here? Why are these widespread mental health issues a reality in the USA?

I believe the cause is cultural. American culture promotes endless work without self-gratification. It represses sexuality, resulting in a society that wants to be sexual but cannot express it, thus creating unhealthy sexual dynamics. It’s obsessed with dog-eat-dog individualism, materialism, and consumerism. This society is built to breed unhealthy people who are materialistic and constantly stressed and overworked. America’s Faustian bargain to achieve its dream is to trade high incomes and material possessions for balanced societal cohesion and a high mental quality of life. The effect of this bargain on women, on both their mental health and their appearance, has been nothing short of devastating.

Matt

Another great breakdown by Athlone. His cultural observations made on the forum are always top-notch.
Javed

I’m glad that insanity is concentrated amongst the obese, b/c then I don’t have to deal with it when I’m hittin’ it.
Jim

Modern America is built upon lies. We are all witnesses and victims to the affects of it. Women especially are going to be hit harder and harder as the demands of independence and feminism coupled with the dynamics of how they compete with one another and live drive them deeper into the abyss.
Phinn

I blame Progressivism.

Every unhealthy social dynamic you’re describing can be traced back to the late 1800s and early 1900s, when feminism was being forcibly introduced through politics.

Once women began voting, two of the first things they did were (a) Prohibition and (b) criminalizing prostitution.

Women learned that it was to their political advantage to shame men for acting like men.

Now that we are several generations into this system, it is ingrained into the mind of most males by puberty that sexual desire for women is a problem, and must be hidden. The higher you go up the ladder in terms of social class, the more deeply ingrained this mindset is. The highest educated, most highly socialized men are almost entirely populated with feminized semi-homosexuals, who parrot the feminist dogma on command.
kkrv

I believe it is part cultural and part environmental. The food and lifestyle in America is physically breaking people. Go read up on “leaky gut syndrome” and “small intestine permeability” (try chriskresser.com). The modern american diet literally puts holes in people’s guts and shit leaking into their blood makes them insane, and gives them all these weird autoimmune diseases and food allergies that nobody had historically. Then you can also read that over half of people have serious mineral/vitamin deficiencies. Their brains literally aren’t working right because they don’t have enough magnesium, zinc, and omega-3 fats.

When you consider that women are much more likely to follow insane diet advice like “avoid meat” and to eat a lot of garbage like Kashi, that could be a factor.
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/ patung

“the latest reports on the extent of it are still pretty shocking: mental illness struck one in five U.S. adults in 2010.”

MSM cock and bull, surprised you’re falling for it. The “mental illness” industry, is, um, an industry, the more people they label as “ill” the more money they make from doling out pills, I mean “treatment”.
jesse

And the effect of the culture upon AMerican men is Autism.

Rates are skyrocketing. 1 in 10 now.

Women get fat and mentally ill and the men go autistic.
http://kidstrangelove.wordpress.com/ Kid Strangelove

Wow, I was actually thinking about this the last few days.

yohami made a point a few days ago when he posted an article on Borderline Personality Disorder – http://yohami.com/blog/2012/05/08/but-arent-all-girls-like-that/ – and said “but aren’t all girls like that?”

I would have to agree. The more I read about Borderline personality disorder, the more I just see it as normal female behavior, at least here in the states. Check up on it Roosh
Anonymous

It says 23% in the study, not the 25% you reported in your headline.
20th Level

I totally disagree and take offense at your short sighted and misguided assumption on the basis of a clearly biased study Roosh……..

The percentage is much higher than that.
Brandon

@kkrv

I’ve heard that the obese are usually always suffering from malnutrition. You’d think that they’d be getting plenty of nutrients, but they’re choosing to gorge themselves on processed crap from the gas station/local McD’s or whatever.

So I believe that obesity (low self-image) coupled w/ malnutrition could def. be some big factors when it comes to modern American women and psychotic crazy bitch syndrome. Hell now that I think of it, most of my girls have always had an irrational streak. And I don’t really know of anyone in my town that does the bare minimum for health and self-improvement. I’m sure there’re some…few and far between for sure.

These bad habits (chain smoking, excessive drinking/drug use, dietary, sedentary lifestyle, being fat and ugly) will most likely result in some physical disease or mental disorder before too long.
Sphere

Critically absent from your analysis is the answer to the most important question overall:

Does crazy make fat, or does fat make crazy?
http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com Neil Skywalker

I fear that it’s just a matter of time before the the crazy and fat girl wave will hit Europe.

Luckily the girls in Holland are very tall so its harder to develop the a soda can figure.

Good article !
Garrett

With all due respect, this sounds a tad like CO2 driving temperature, another leftist canard.
What I have observed with obese females (I’m 56) suggests the event chain is the other way round.
Girl overindulges hunger pangs, puts on weight, loses social reinforcement vice hotties, sustains emotional damage, beginning the downward spiral.

Oh yes, the correlation is there though.
http://stagedreality.wordpress.com Leap of a Beta

Bitches be crazy. We all knew it here, now we have the numbers to back it up.

As to the comments – definitely a cultural thing. No where else in the world do you have a ridiculous pressure to work as much as you can, buy as much of you can, and have an overwhelming amount of money go towards those that don’t do the first two.

Don’t get me wrong; there are societies that have more of one, lower levels of all, etc. But the combination we have in the US is unique in screwing over men, entitling others to things they haven’t earned, and trying to make a woman feel haaaaaaapy.
Nurse Ratchet

when is mental hospital bang coming out?
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Anonymous

Most of what passes for mental illness don’t simply show up out of the blue one day. Rather, it slowly evolves away from mental health, one baby step at a time.

In functional societies, the external environment gives clue that there is something adrift, and the malleable brain self corrects.

In our dysfunctional dystopia, these natural feedback mechanisms are no longer allowed to work. Excessively obese people are treated at taxpayer expense, people who cannot feed themselves are fed; not by those who care for them, but by some borg army who uses such feeding as an excuse for why they, themselves, should receive massive compensation. People who behave antisocially and like assholes, can hide behind lawyers, lawsuits and tax feeding cops; instead of being unceremoniously culled.

Over time, this lac of external correction has the same effect on other mental processes, as sticking someone in a cave without varying degrees of light have on the circadian rhythm process; they simply stop functioning.
Traveller

Clear, but let us not forget the big pharma market.

Medics today are just pills resellers, they have just every interest to diagnose as illness any thing.

What is seen as mental illness today was definitively corrected in the past with some spanking.

While for the boys the schools push for drugging them en masse.
Wudang

Don`t forget that amongst those who don`t qualify for a diagnosis many come close and that means highly dysfunctional as well. And as you move furhter away from the landscape of disorder towards mental balance there is a long way to go in which many, many women of varying degrees of moderate crazyness resides. THAT precentage is HUGE. And those women are not much fun to deal with either.
http://thecaptainpower.blogspot.com The Captain Power

haha Rooshv, don’t hate on women. Accept them for their mental state. Do you yell at your dog or pet turtle every morning?? Its just human nature…

http://thecaptainpower.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-come-nobody-talks-sht-anymore.html
Orson

I don’t mind if fat chicks are nuts. They are already fat, so of no interest at all.

The big loss would be when a hot chick is nuts. That is an outright loss of a scarce resource.
Orson

People with left-wing political leanings are far more likely to be on medication for mental illness, it is widely reported.
http://www.partytravelsexlove.com Brianmark

Great post! You get my like!
Notice there is more mental illness in the whites or typically the wealthier, because they can afford the meds and the diagnosis of being mentally ill. All this illness comes in the rich due to lack of any real worries. Poor people have to stay busy and work.
Obesity is based on our crap food and lake of exercise. Woman got exactly what they wanted: they wanted to work and thet got all the stress and problems that come with hard work. Remember women be careful what you wish for! In addition a sexless society is bad for both males and females!
http://stagedreality.wordpress.com Leap of a Beta

Anyone here able to say if they’ve changed the qualifiers for these kinds of tests on mental disorders? Either easier to qualify or harder?

Only reason I bring it up is I know they’ve bumped up the obesity requirements, much to the detriment of men and women in America. Now the Obese woman just gets to comfort herself that she’s simply overweight and curvy, instead of a portable road block.
Mr. Pointyface

Consumerism is insane, but there is I bet a huge bias to finding more mental illness in wealthy countries.

In poorer countries no one has the money or knowledge to know they have problems, there are no psychologists to go to.

They just drink and smoke themselves into early graves here in EE. Mental problems? “I’ll punch your face.”

Being a drunk and seriously nicotine addicted is not viewed as a problem unless you’re on the street incoherent.

But form the packs of women stalking around the cities, you can guess by a process of elimination where the men are: Home drinking alone, in deep depression they can’t provide a living for a family.
http://a-world-to-come.blogspot.de/ prophet

No offense, but none of this surprises me.
beta_plus

You claim that uncontrolled Capitalism and repressed sexuality is to blame. Yet many countries in NW Europe such as the Scandinavia, Germany, and the Netherlands work very hard against these things and still have lots of fat chicks with bad attitudes. I was stunned at all of the fat chicks at Amsterdam Airport yesterday (KLM seems to have a no fatty policy, but that isn’t enough to cover up the others). They may not be as fat as American chicks, but they are still fat, and they were not 20 years ago.
Lumiere

A large part of the obesity crisis is caused by a stupidly high amount of sugar in the average American diet

When you are at a bar and you have too much the bar won’t serve you more alcohol.

Yet fatties will happily be served another litre of coca cola to go with their super size meal despite the fact that obesity kills far more people than alcohol
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http://[email protected] AnonyFem

Things are not as bleak as some think! Read about this woman who is learning to be more submissive (feminine) to her husband after 25 years of marriage, complete with spankings…and loving it!

http://deferringtodave.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/covering-some-ground.html?m=1
http://www.yohami.com/blog/ YOHAMI

If the reported is 25% the real number is probably around +40%, followed by a bell curve of craziness. And then, the friends of crazy people are not that healthy, right? and, probably crazies are more abundant on high concentration cities.

I dont have a punchline.
midnitespecial

So you banned me for some reason from your forum before I could post the pic of me and Kate. I actually ended up getting two pics, some kino and handed her a paper with my info.
Posted the one pic on my twitter today … my handle is @Thorjackson …maybe you can lift the ban now….I enjoyed the forum and did not mean to come across as a “troll”. I’m tryint to see it from your angle and give you the benefit of the doubt but part of me thinks you are a dick for banning me. All good either way player.
http://www.yohami.com/blog/ YOHAMI

Leap, maybe they are lowering the threshold on these tests so they can sell more pills.
john

You can’t rely on official numbers to know how many people are crazy. I take Lexapro. Officially I would be listed as a person with a psychological disorder because of that. There is nothing wrong with me except I am old and developed premature ejaculation. Lexapro is prescribed for depression and anxiety. It also prevents premature ejaculation. I can last as long as I want while taking it. I am not depressed. I promise.
theakinet

I call BS. American’s are over-diagnosed and over-prescribed. I’m surprised Roosh has fallen for this. As always, who, whom? And, follow the money: “DSM-5 Panel Tiptoes on Grief, Depression” medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/APA/32558
Francis

Well if obesity causes depression in women, I think then for men, being too thin can cause a man to have low confidence and depression.

Kinda makes sense if you think about…
Men should be big and strong with meaty bodies,
women thin and curvy.

If you go against this “script” were given in our biological programming you will be generally less unhappy.
Rory

Is GULEN movement a CULT?
http://footpole.wordpress.com Inlone

Many anti-depressants have weight-gain as a side effect, so it could be that it’s the craziness causing the fattiness, not the other way around.
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Original JB

“I believe the cause is cultural. American culture promotes endless work without self-gratification. It represses sexuality, resulting in a society that wants to be sexual but cannot express it, thus creating unhealthy sexual dynamics. It’s obsessed with dog-eat-dog individualism, materialism, and consumerism.”

Sorry, that’s a pretentious pseudo-Marxist sociological analysis you offer as an explanation for just about everything.

The real reason is much more basic: divorce, motherfucker. American women are being raised with serious daddy issues.
P Ray

Of the women with mental conditions,
If obese women were depressed,
can we say that thin women are manic?
Athlone McGinnis

@JB: “Sorry, that’s a pretentious pseudo-Marxist sociological analysis you offer as an explanation for just about everything.

The real reason is much more basic: divorce, motherfucker. American women are being raised with serious daddy issues.”

Those are symptoms, not causes-they did not appear out of thin air. The high divorce rate and dysfunctional male-female relationships (“daddy issues” and the like) are a result of deeper American cultural problems that relate to the factors I mentioned earlier.
spiffinator

It is true what kkrv says about the food in America. The obesity epidemic does not only affect women, but affects everyone in this country. This includes children. The fact of the matter is everyone in this country eats incredible amounts of processed foods, starches, sugars and GMO’d crap that is making us fat, sick and mentally depressed. I live in Texas and people everywhere literally look like meat bags lumbering around… not far off from the satirical portrayal of Americans in the movie Wall-E.

Unfortunately for women, their appearance is their most important asset and this obesity epidemic affects them the most. Men can get by being overweight as long as they have some character or money in the bank. As for women, they have one precious asset, as transitory as it may be. The atrocious American food supply and diet, in my opinion, is the biggest reason to blame for our poor health and physical appearances (80% of health and longevity is based on diet).

Feminism and this obesity epidemic, is part and parcel the reason for the fattitude problem that plagues American women and makes them so undesirable. I traveled to Southeast Asia for a long time to have my fun, before I finally settled down with a beautiful Middle Eastern girl. I simply could not find satisfaction in American women. They are horrible and the few hot ones are such slim pickings that your game better be sharp or you will be fucking fatties and jacking off for a life time. It’s really fucking sad, especially if you look at how American women were really quality material 50 years ago.

kkrv mentioned chriskresser.com. I recommend reading that blog for advice on how to eat healthy and reduce inflammation in your body, keep your weight down, and live a healthy lifestyle in general. Good luck.
Guess who

Where do obese statistics come from anyhow? I agree, the U.S. may be the “heaviest” country but I think it is over exaggerated. Are they looking BMI? If so, the BMI is so full of shit, it’s not even funny. I am surprised that it wouldn’t be more like 90% of adults being obese if the indicator used is the BMI. The BMI is a joke. It likely would work for men and women with ZERO muscle mass, maybe Asian people.

This post is still pretty funny. Personally, I think a lot of you shit heads are mentally ill. No wait… I KNOW you’re all fucked up. Anyone that admires this Roosh clown has to be a little wacked out.

Chubby sane chic here who have always dated smoking hot successful Alpha males.
Tom Lemon

Every 80 years the human race goes insane. Then we have a huge war.

So, let’s just get on with it. Several hundred million people dead, famine and bio/cyber warfare.

That will cure all the mental illness.
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Anonymous

LMAO. YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT UNHEALTHY SEXUAL DYNAMICS. LMAO OH MAN, THAT IS FUCKING RICH!!!
Anonymous

Boy, you sure do talk about fat women a lot. You do know that more men are obese than women, right?
Anonymous

Australian women would not be too far behind in mental illness!
turbodyke

Of course, this 25% figure has a lot to do with the profit margins of pharmaceutical companies and the incentives they offer psychiatrists to over-prescribe.

No doubt, there is a correlation between mental illness and obesity.

Nevertheless, this post smacks of sour grapes.
jon

As a successful American male,not bad looking and used to date all the time,as of which now I just refuse to date American woman.

I havent dated an American woman in about 10 years.

Disney princess movies ruined them,literally as well as feminism,liberalism,entitlement,affirmative action and american woman have been so helplessly socially engineered to destroy themselves and their families and once you understand this you cannot be mad at them for being so materialistic,self centered,spoiled,arrogant,obese etc….using no fault divorce and maternal presumption to steal wealth.

Its absolutley unbelievable how woman have completely destroyed themselves and the family unit.

Entitlement,smugness,arrogance and bringing nothing to the table in a relationship or marriage is why I realize the fact I am not married or have any children as a blessing,as almost every man I have ever known has been married and bnakrupted by woman.

All woman can say is men are afraid of relationships,because woman are angry that they are single,but the fact is woman know very well themselves as they see their girlfriends bankrupting men,and know full well men are being smart and avoiding them.

Anger is the weathervane of truth.

I just never thought as an american male,I would not want the woman in my very own country.

I know of about 6 middle aged never married woman,obese and on anti depressants in the neighborhood complaining they cant find a good man,they dont hit the gym and sit around and complain that no one wants them while they pop prozac.

I think what it is,our society has convinced woman that no matter how crazy,damaged,obese,angry,arrogant,entitled,materialistic or bratty that they are,that they still have some obscene value,that no man can match.

Like I said,you cant get angry at woman,they are socially engineered like a mouse in a wheel and dont even know it.

When you encounter these types of woman that are damaged and have an overinflated sense of value,run from them and ignore them at all costs.

Woman need to bring the family and marriage back and get rif of maternal presumption in no fault divorce courts.

The feminist movement professing that being a wife and a terrible mother is a terrible fate,is proof of social engineering and woman bought it hook line and sinker.

Being a wife and mother is the most important job in the world,woman had more power in the home shaping lives than they ever would in corporate America and are the cornerstone of the family,and now that mommy is working two jobs so she can drive a bmw,the kids are suffering.

All it was about was taxing half of the population before which they couldnt tax,as woman left the home and went to work,and about producing conflict between the genders,and lowering population rates.

disclaimer:it seems men and woman in america are corrupt today,but when the woman left the home it was all downhill from there.

Men dont want woman with careers,they could care less.Its natural for a man to want children and to actually have a woman atleast in the first years of that childs life be there for that child.

The family unit is all but destroyed.
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Absolutely The Truth

i will certainly agree on that, especially with so many nasty women that have an ATTITUDE PROBLEM. very mentally disturbed women seem to be everywhere now, which is very scary.
we all have some crap on our shoe

don’t just call out one type of woman. This is what burns me to no end. The title headline says 25% of American women are mentally ill. The part about it is have met women from other Countries and parts of the world that are horrible to others in the USA. It is sickening the type of attitudes that are distributed at the job and other places. One night I finally realized that am happy of my own being. ^ if a caddy little bee or her queen friend or given mother has a problem with me look the frick somewhere else. & STOP JUDGING PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU CAN. ENTITLEMENT NEEDS TO EFFIN STOP BECAUSE I NEED A JOB AND MORE THAN A DAY. THANKS.
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Joe

Roosh man that was poetry. Immense clarity on your part, and I respect that because I never considered how nutty many slits literally are.
During Sex Smile

Man your right- the American lifestyle is crap. Work for the man, hatch 2 kids and let the gulag worker prep/”school” brainwash them, work till you fall over, hope the man don’t take all yo shit (I listen to too much rap but still its true), and then die. What crap! One thing I’m grateful for is guys like Tim Ferris and Roosh V who say- screw working for the man, line your dreams now, and follow your heart to be happy. That’s makes more sense than the college rain washing to work, work, work, and die to make the corporation known as the hog and their mega corp partners wealthier. If I was wealthy I’d expat- we all deserve better than Team Murica-corporate slaves to the Zionist bankers global war and hopefully if we leave these pigs won’t nuke us where ever were trying to live at on this Planet full of sociopaths with fiat money printing presses and closets full of nukes- tyrants!
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Zehel

“when the woman left the home it was all downhill from there.”

Well said
Anton Chigurh

The broad generalizations about America and statistics on offer are stoopid as sh*t.
Everybody knows obesity is corellated with mental illness and fat chicks are batsh*t. But this Athlone guy is a moron with no grasp of methodology and the vast variations in assessing and reporting incidences and even the definitions of “mental illness” across different countries.
When I read the very first sentence I knew the whole article was going to be a waste of time but I trust Roosh so much i read it anyway.
Oh and hey Athlone McGinniss? Go f*ck yourself, sh*tstain.
HURRR
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Single Mans Paradise

Interesting read. I agree the greatest thing you can do for your health and well being is to stop dating American girls. Even when I go home to visit I just catch up with friends and family.
No chasing girls at all. After you travel a bit there is no going back!
I recall most of the girls I dated back in the day were popping some kind of pills daily. Xanax, lexipro, Kolodipin and who knows what else… Scary stuff.
Wank

Most mentally ill have killed themselves before 50, that’s why there are less after 50. This country also has about 40 percent of the worlds wealth and the decreasing white population burdened to keep the coffers of tax money full for the over breeding freeloaders to drain is very stressing.

Also less minorities seek mental healthcare so more are unreported.
Sad But Very True

What a disaster it would be if we had a woman president.
Scarey

God help us.
moosh

If you are not from America, I wonder how you became so superficial and how your mental disorder has you looking at women as objects? You must be so hideous that not even fat women want to sleep with you, hence your rant on obese women who’ve turned you down, alongside very weak biased ideas. There’s a lot of promiscuity here in America. And just because a woman isn’t a slut, doesn’t mean she has a mental disorder – and just because she prefers to be respected rather than take your one night stand offers, doesn’t make her crazy. A culture of respect and productivity has lifted the entire world with life changing inventions so you may have time running around trying to get laid, instead of boning goats in the field, which you would eventually write about, how even the goats reject you.
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Shera Harvey

Do you think that women have been this crazy for all time? I think that society has tried to change women into men and we can’t handle it. We are supposed to act like men, somehow, and give up everything that we have done for thousands of years like being caregivers. Women have been convinced that they want to be men. And this leaves us really unbalanced. I am sure that you are right that there will be more and more crazy chicks as society takes away all of our options to live our lives anything like our ancestors did.

BTW not all crazy chicks are fat.

Roosh V

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