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		<title>By: lurker</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best part of the glass menagerie is when I was told that unicorns, in legend, could only be caught by virgin girls who would lay in the forest with their legs spread. The unicorn would insert his horn, and it would break off inside her, and the unicorn could then be captured.

That gives the breaking of the glass unicorn scene a lot more depth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best part of the glass menagerie is when I was told that unicorns, in legend, could only be caught by virgin girls who would lay in the forest with their legs spread. The unicorn would insert his horn, and it would break off inside her, and the unicorn could then be captured.</p>
<p>That gives the breaking of the glass unicorn scene a lot more depth.</p>
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		<title>By: Firepower</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-27604</link>
		<dc:creator>Firepower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a Senior Thesis for my college English degree on Streetcar.  Had to actually read it and many other of Tennessee&#039;s plays like Glass Menagerie and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.  Brick&#039;s pal, Skipper was a waygay guy.  Notice, how most of the gheys in his plays are punished.  Blanche&#039;s teen tla husband for instance.  

Brando&#039;s physical performance, born on the stage itself, is what strikes most of us as that Alpha Ideal.  Without Marlon&#039;s visual appeal, Kowalski is a page-bound Neanderthal.  If you&#039;re hot, you can get away with anything.

&quot;aw, those cats - raaaoowr&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a Senior Thesis for my college English degree on Streetcar.  Had to actually read it and many other of Tennessee&#8217;s plays like Glass Menagerie and Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.  Brick&#8217;s pal, Skipper was a waygay guy.  Notice, how most of the gheys in his plays are punished.  Blanche&#8217;s teen tla husband for instance.  </p>
<p>Brando&#8217;s physical performance, born on the stage itself, is what strikes most of us as that Alpha Ideal.  Without Marlon&#8217;s visual appeal, Kowalski is a page-bound Neanderthal.  If you&#8217;re hot, you can get away with anything.</p>
<p>&#8220;aw, those cats &#8211; raaaoowr&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-18135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fucking good post</description>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7635</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of gay men, the new Adam Sandler comedy looks promising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of gay men, the new Adam Sandler comedy looks promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Days of Broken Arrows</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7593</link>
		<dc:creator>Days of Broken Arrows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to ruin everybody&#039;s fun here, but if you think you&#039;re getting some insight into actual female behavior with &quot;A Streetcar nemd Desire,&quot; think again. The play was penned by gay playwright Tennessee Williams and theatrical scholars have long believed that Williams wrote the Blanche character -- at least partly -- as a self-portrait.

This little factoid even made it into the Wikipedia entry on Williams: &quot;Some biographers say that the character of Blanche DuBois in A Streetcar Named Desire is based on her as well and a small part on Williams himself.&quot;

&quot;Streetcar&quot; makes a lot more snese when you read it as a portrait of troubled gay men, not as a  male-female couple. In a somewhat similar vein, all the S&amp;M themes of those old Judas Priest songs took on a different meaning once singer Rob Halford came out of the closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to ruin everybody&#8217;s fun here, but if you think you&#8217;re getting some insight into actual female behavior with &#8220;A Streetcar nemd Desire,&#8221; think again. The play was penned by gay playwright Tennessee Williams and theatrical scholars have long believed that Williams wrote the Blanche character &#8212; at least partly &#8212; as a self-portrait.</p>
<p>This little factoid even made it into the Wikipedia entry on Williams: &#8220;Some biographers say that the character of Blanche DuBois in A Streetcar Named Desire is based on her as well and a small part on Williams himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Streetcar&#8221; makes a lot more snese when you read it as a portrait of troubled gay men, not as a  male-female couple. In a somewhat similar vein, all the S&amp;M themes of those old Judas Priest songs took on a different meaning once singer Rob Halford came out of the closet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajia</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7584</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously there&#039;s a reason a woman &quot;likes&quot; a man, but I think it&#039;s pretty sad to assume that we all have some type of agenda to score a rich husband that will pay all of our bills for us, so that we can be ladies that lunch. Or that we have some kind of engagement ring radar tuned up to high.

I guess I have extremely low standards because I&#039;ve consistently dated blue-collar men who drink cheap beer and make me laugh. Maybe it&#039;s my midwestern upbringing. I&#039;m in a serious, 2-year relationship with a man who will never make more money than I make, but he can make me giggle like no one&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously there&#8217;s a reason a woman &#8220;likes&#8221; a man, but I think it&#8217;s pretty sad to assume that we all have some type of agenda to score a rich husband that will pay all of our bills for us, so that we can be ladies that lunch. Or that we have some kind of engagement ring radar tuned up to high.</p>
<p>I guess I have extremely low standards because I&#8217;ve consistently dated blue-collar men who drink cheap beer and make me laugh. Maybe it&#8217;s my midwestern upbringing. I&#8217;m in a serious, 2-year relationship with a man who will never make more money than I make, but he can make me giggle like no one&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7565</link>
		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cbradi9, those stats include women well into their 60&#039;s so they overstate the ratio somewhat but looking around the city at any given time you do feel the ratio is considerably in a man&#039;s favor.  

As a fellow manhattanite I second your observation that many women here have extremely high standards, so high in fact that they make things very difficult for themselves.  NY women are probably the least approachable in the US, exacerbating their situation and indirectly feeding the player sub-culture.  There are a lot of single girls that are 6 or 7&#039;s with the approachability and demands of a 9 or 10.  I also find that there are not as many hot women (8+) in NY as other cities like Miami or out west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cbradi9, those stats include women well into their 60&#8217;s so they overstate the ratio somewhat but looking around the city at any given time you do feel the ratio is considerably in a man&#8217;s favor.  </p>
<p>As a fellow manhattanite I second your observation that many women here have extremely high standards, so high in fact that they make things very difficult for themselves.  NY women are probably the least approachable in the US, exacerbating their situation and indirectly feeding the player sub-culture.  There are a lot of single girls that are 6 or 7&#8217;s with the approachability and demands of a 9 or 10.  I also find that there are not as many hot women (8+) in NY as other cities like Miami or out west.</p>
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		<title>By: Roissy</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7563</link>
		<dc:creator>Roissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gatsby is basically right.  i&#039;d add that 30+ single women will never commit to the younger guys they bang, they&#039;d rather maritally lock down a financially established man older than them.  they know in their hearts there is no future with the younger guys so they have less incentive to play hard-to-get.  if a woman sees a man as a long term prospect instead of just hot sex her dating programming kicks in (business cards, dinner dates, delayed sexual gratification, etc) to insure that the guy pursuing them is serious and won&#039;t walk out after the first steamy night.

and, like gatsby said, the real tragedy is that past her expiration date this hard-to-get strategy which served her well in her 20s becomes the self-ruinous force of biological habit that does nothing but drive away all marriageable men except the most desperate betas, leaving her in a psychologically scarred state about her self-worth and eventual vulnerability to collecting cats as a way to alleviate the unremitting pain.

cbradi9:
&quot;First of all, there are 185,000 more single women than there are single men in the greater NYC metro area.&quot;

keep in mind that male-female hookups are not one to one.  many of those surplus women are the second or third mistresses of the smaller pool of successful alpha male manhattanites, biding their time at the expense of lonely betas who can&#039;t get a date to save their lives in hopes of getting promoted by alpha male to number one squeeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gatsby is basically right.  i&#8217;d add that 30+ single women will never commit to the younger guys they bang, they&#8217;d rather maritally lock down a financially established man older than them.  they know in their hearts there is no future with the younger guys so they have less incentive to play hard-to-get.  if a woman sees a man as a long term prospect instead of just hot sex her dating programming kicks in (business cards, dinner dates, delayed sexual gratification, etc) to insure that the guy pursuing them is serious and won&#8217;t walk out after the first steamy night.</p>
<p>and, like gatsby said, the real tragedy is that past her expiration date this hard-to-get strategy which served her well in her 20s becomes the self-ruinous force of biological habit that does nothing but drive away all marriageable men except the most desperate betas, leaving her in a psychologically scarred state about her self-worth and eventual vulnerability to collecting cats as a way to alleviate the unremitting pain.</p>
<p>cbradi9:<br />
&#8220;First of all, there are 185,000 more single women than there are single men in the greater NYC metro area.&#8221;</p>
<p>keep in mind that male-female hookups are not one to one.  many of those surplus women are the second or third mistresses of the smaller pool of successful alpha male manhattanites, biding their time at the expense of lonely betas who can&#8217;t get a date to save their lives in hopes of getting promoted by alpha male to number one squeeze.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops, screwed the HTML and half of my post disappeared :(  

I had also said that the girls on the west coast are nicer and seem alot more balanced.  They might not as easy to get in bed, but they&#039;re far more approachable and generally smart/fairly attractive.  The west coast for the most part is like an completely different world (Mid Calfornia and North).  It&#039;s mostly new and highly educated money as opposed to 3rd or 4th generation oil and political families that exist on the east coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops, screwed the HTML and half of my post disappeared :(  </p>
<p>I had also said that the girls on the west coast are nicer and seem alot more balanced.  They might not as easy to get in bed, but they&#8217;re far more approachable and generally smart/fairly attractive.  The west coast for the most part is like an completely different world (Mid Calfornia and North).  It&#8217;s mostly new and highly educated money as opposed to 3rd or 4th generation oil and political families that exist on the east coast.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7560</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just NY, it&#039;s the entire east coast.  

http://creativeclass.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/04/03/singles_2.jpg  May, but then you have the most amazing summers of anywhere in the US.  

As far as I can tell the rumors that the most attractive people are further out west seem to be true.  The most attractive females I&#039;ve seen are in Las Vegas, Seattle, and California.  In fact, the few attractive people that went to my college they all ended up on the west coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just NY, it&#8217;s the entire east coast.  </p>
<p><a href="http://creativeclass.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/04/03/singles_2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://creativeclass.typepad.com/./photos/uncategorized/2007/04/03/singles_2.jpg</a>  May, but then you have the most amazing summers of anywhere in the US.  </p>
<p>As far as I can tell the rumors that the most attractive people are further out west seem to be true.  The most attractive females I&#8217;ve seen are in Las Vegas, Seattle, and California.  In fact, the few attractive people that went to my college they all ended up on the west coast.</p>
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		<title>By: cbradi9</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7559</link>
		<dc:creator>cbradi9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Manhattan, and I feel this phenomenon is more palpable here than in most places across the country. First of all, there are 185,000 more single women than there are single men in the greater NYC metro area. Second of all, most people (men and women) come here to develop their careers. Hence, most women (and men) don&#039;t reach their desired goal until they hit at least 30. (AT LEAST). For men, that&#039;s ok. For women, their clocks are already beginning to tick. Since women in the city are generally accomplished, smart, and decent-looking, they therefore have extremely high standards of men. But realize, there&#039;s a dearth of men in the city, a lot of the men are gay, and the ones who are not gay are players who want models or younger women. Hence, you have a huge surplus of single, 30-something yr old women in Manhattan. 

Personal story: I was on a train coming back to the city one day with my other female friend and her two male coworkers. (And these guys are single, decent-looking, in the corporate world, and in their 30s). Suddenly, these two drunk women (with wine in a brown paper bag) sit right next to us. They had no rings and were both obviously older women. (they were both 39 and looked it with the overtanning and wrinkles). However, that didn&#039;t stop them from overtly flirting with my guy friends. (overtly as in touching the guys&#039; legs and thighs). My friend and I (both in our mid 20s) just sat their watching in amusement. I thought it was odd that it never crossed their mind that we MIGHT have been with them. (although we were all just friends). The air was completely filled with desperation. Even though they were both 39, they acted as if they were 20 yr olds. (Note: Acting like an immature, young 20 yr old doesnt make you any younger. It just makes you look foolish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Manhattan, and I feel this phenomenon is more palpable here than in most places across the country. First of all, there are 185,000 more single women than there are single men in the greater NYC metro area. Second of all, most people (men and women) come here to develop their careers. Hence, most women (and men) don&#8217;t reach their desired goal until they hit at least 30. (AT LEAST). For men, that&#8217;s ok. For women, their clocks are already beginning to tick. Since women in the city are generally accomplished, smart, and decent-looking, they therefore have extremely high standards of men. But realize, there&#8217;s a dearth of men in the city, a lot of the men are gay, and the ones who are not gay are players who want models or younger women. Hence, you have a huge surplus of single, 30-something yr old women in Manhattan. </p>
<p>Personal story: I was on a train coming back to the city one day with my other female friend and her two male coworkers. (And these guys are single, decent-looking, in the corporate world, and in their 30s). Suddenly, these two drunk women (with wine in a brown paper bag) sit right next to us. They had no rings and were both obviously older women. (they were both 39 and looked it with the overtanning and wrinkles). However, that didn&#8217;t stop them from overtly flirting with my guy friends. (overtly as in touching the guys&#8217; legs and thighs). My friend and I (both in our mid 20s) just sat their watching in amusement. I thought it was odd that it never crossed their mind that we MIGHT have been with them. (although we were all just friends). The air was completely filled with desperation. Even though they were both 39, they acted as if they were 20 yr olds. (Note: Acting like an immature, young 20 yr old doesnt make you any younger. It just makes you look foolish).</p>
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		<title>By: Genevieve</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>Genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>didn&#039;t marlon brando molest his daughter?</description>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7557</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Rajia - 
This may sound cynical, but when dealing with most people (especially women) the best indicators of what they actually think are their actions and behaviors.  

Most people aren&#039;t self-aware enough to really give a motivation for their actions at any level deeper than &quot;I see a guy I like&quot;.  Unless you&#039;re functioning at a level no higher than a baboon, there is a reason you like him.  

Maybe it&#039;s his overpowering sexuality or maybe it&#039;s his submissive features, but there is a reason.  Since most people can&#039;t be trusted to give an honest reflection of themselves you can only judge by their actions.  

One of the reasons I read Roosh&#039;s blog even though I don&#039;t agree with everything he says is that has a candidness about himself in his experiences that&#039;s rare to find nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rajia &#8211;<br />
This may sound cynical, but when dealing with most people (especially women) the best indicators of what they actually think are their actions and behaviors.  </p>
<p>Most people aren&#8217;t self-aware enough to really give a motivation for their actions at any level deeper than &#8220;I see a guy I like&#8221;.  Unless you&#8217;re functioning at a level no higher than a baboon, there is a reason you like him.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s his overpowering sexuality or maybe it&#8217;s his submissive features, but there is a reason.  Since most people can&#8217;t be trusted to give an honest reflection of themselves you can only judge by their actions.  </p>
<p>One of the reasons I read Roosh&#8217;s blog even though I don&#8217;t agree with everything he says is that has a candidness about himself in his experiences that&#8217;s rare to find nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like most women (and probably alot of men) don&#039;t think beyond one or two levels of inference.  

I mean women don&#039;t really plan out becoming cat ladies. Why do they just accept fallacious feminist arguments without any analysis?

Are most people just that intellectually lazy or are they all just stuck on the second level of Mazlow&#039;s hiearchy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like most women (and probably alot of men) don&#8217;t think beyond one or two levels of inference.  </p>
<p>I mean women don&#8217;t really plan out becoming cat ladies. Why do they just accept fallacious feminist arguments without any analysis?</p>
<p>Are most people just that intellectually lazy or are they all just stuck on the second level of Mazlow&#8217;s hiearchy?</p>
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		<title>By: Rajia</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7555</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m not quite as advanced as all these coniving 30+ women you seem to meet, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to assume that every woman has some type of agenda. Sometimes we just see guys we like, regardless of their age, income, color, etc. I&#039;m 30 and honestly, I never look at a guy and think &quot;oh, he must have money&quot; or &quot;oh, he can probably buy me a good life&quot;.

Jeez, how paranoid are you guys? It must suck to live that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m not quite as advanced as all these coniving 30+ women you seem to meet, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to assume that every woman has some type of agenda. Sometimes we just see guys we like, regardless of their age, income, color, etc. I&#8217;m 30 and honestly, I never look at a guy and think &#8220;oh, he must have money&#8221; or &#8220;oh, he can probably buy me a good life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jeez, how paranoid are you guys? It must suck to live that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Gatsby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Gatsby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is so confusing that they’d give out numbers and trade cards with rich dudes their own age, but with young energetic good looking guys it’s open says me.&quot; -- VK

Here&#039;s my theory.  Apologies in advance for the inelegant way I&#039;ve written this.

Post-30 women gave it up for free during their 20s to bad boys that had no money.  Now they&#039;re looking for financial security as their looks fade.  The post-30 men they&#039;re pursuing today aren&#039;t the bad boy type they dated in their 20s, so they think that such men would still find them desirable.  They also think that playing hard to get will increase such desire, and will thereby get a permanent commitment from such men.  Here&#039;s the flaw in this rationale.  The highly-desirable 30-plus year old guy has navigated his way through his 20s, which were filled with all sorts of women.  He chose not to get married or chose to play the field.  What makes post-30 women think that men who avoided marrying them in their 20s are all of a sudden going to wake up and marry them now that their looks are fading?  This leaves post-30 women with the less-desirable post-30 men, who although they have money, probably have far less than would be needed to allow them a very comfortable and financially-secure future.

Plus-30 women choose to sleep with 20-something guys because they want to believe they&#039;re still desirable by attractive men -- that they can still compete (and win) against women who are 10+ years younger.  Likewise, they don&#039;t want sex from plus-30 men -- they want the financial security those men can provide.  This is illustrated by the cliche situation where the 30-plus trophy wife of a wealthy man her age (or older) sleeps with the tennis pro or the pool boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is so confusing that they’d give out numbers and trade cards with rich dudes their own age, but with young energetic good looking guys it’s open says me.&#8221; &#8212; VK</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my theory.  Apologies in advance for the inelegant way I&#8217;ve written this.</p>
<p>Post-30 women gave it up for free during their 20s to bad boys that had no money.  Now they&#8217;re looking for financial security as their looks fade.  The post-30 men they&#8217;re pursuing today aren&#8217;t the bad boy type they dated in their 20s, so they think that such men would still find them desirable.  They also think that playing hard to get will increase such desire, and will thereby get a permanent commitment from such men.  Here&#8217;s the flaw in this rationale.  The highly-desirable 30-plus year old guy has navigated his way through his 20s, which were filled with all sorts of women.  He chose not to get married or chose to play the field.  What makes post-30 women think that men who avoided marrying them in their 20s are all of a sudden going to wake up and marry them now that their looks are fading?  This leaves post-30 women with the less-desirable post-30 men, who although they have money, probably have far less than would be needed to allow them a very comfortable and financially-secure future.</p>
<p>Plus-30 women choose to sleep with 20-something guys because they want to believe they&#8217;re still desirable by attractive men &#8212; that they can still compete (and win) against women who are 10+ years younger.  Likewise, they don&#8217;t want sex from plus-30 men &#8212; they want the financial security those men can provide.  This is illustrated by the cliche situation where the 30-plus trophy wife of a wealthy man her age (or older) sleeps with the tennis pro or the pool boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7552</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read that book, I got most of my points from APA articles. 

Jewcano, I&#039;m a libertarian. I guess I must have talked about communism in paragraphs ten through twelve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read that book, I got most of my points from APA articles. </p>
<p>Jewcano, I&#8217;m a libertarian. I guess I must have talked about communism in paragraphs ten through twelve.</p>
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		<title>By: Jewcano</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7541</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewcano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got tired of reading nullpointer after the 12th paragraph, but that was far enough in to read where he claims Communism would save us from crazy cat ladies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got tired of reading nullpointer after the 12th paragraph, but that was far enough in to read where he claims Communism would save us from crazy cat ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: boc</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7537</link>
		<dc:creator>boc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nullpointer - I ugess people don&#039;t need to read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Sperm-Wars-Science-Robin-Baker/dp/0788160044/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-7878942-5851345?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1184632770&amp;sr=8-2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sperm wars&lt;/a&gt; anymore, since you more or less quoted all of Baker&#039;s points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nullpointer &#8211; I ugess people don&#8217;t need to read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sperm-Wars-Science-Robin-Baker/dp/0788160044/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-7878942-5851345?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1184632770&amp;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">sperm wars</a> anymore, since you more or less quoted all of Baker&#8217;s points.</p>
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		<title>By: mike says</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/a-streetcar-named-desire#comment-7535</link>
		<dc:creator>mike says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aaaaaand there went the fun in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaaaaand there went the fun in this thread.</p>
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