Comments on: Affection http://www.rooshv.com/affection Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:02:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-38004 Paul Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:50:15 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-38004 A whole lot of betas commenting on this. Speaking for myself, I look to bond with a woman. Whether that includes threads that are completely true or not, doesn't really matter. What matters is she feels comfort when close to me. I can build that comfort...comfort is part of chemistry (to address the comment made about having chemistry 'just has to happen')...that's a beta female right there. And its complete bullshit. Look, if you understand social dynamics, social psychology, study behavior, etc. you can work within its guidelines and rules, whether they are genetic, conscious, subconscious, etc. When you understand the parameters of a person, you can work with that person. (Look up Mystery/Matador's 'Microcalibration')It's not evil manipulation, its an expedited process by which you achieve a goal, whatever that goal may be. Getting laid for some people is the goal, for me its dating a fuckin hot ass woman who's horny and likes to have sex alot and is willing to do it everywhere and anytime. I digress. Point is, as a man, I do for me what I want for me. I study the game, I read up on it, I read the opinions, I study what betas do and why not to do what they do based on the response of the female. I also study alphas and WHY exactly they get the poon they get, why they get the women they get, why it is exactly (characteristically speaking) they pull the highest valued women. I was a beta for most of my life (30 now) and in the last year began reading this stuff after being introduced by a good friend, who I am constantly talking about this stuff with. Concepts and ideas, failures, missed moments, etc. My last date was like reading a coloring book sitting right in front of me. I saw when she was comfortable, I saw when she was attracted, I saw everything clear as day. I kissed her, rather, made out with her in the bar for hours before going back to her place. I never apologized for anything, even though everything I did was accepted. I negged her a little bit and not once did I compliment her directly. I would bait her with 'I think we might get along' and 'I might like you or kinda like you'. Never did I fulfill her desire to feel wanted...until I got her home. Then I molested her willing body until 5 am. Our second date is tonight at midnight...=) Thanks Roosh and Roissy! A whole lot of betas commenting on this. Speaking for myself, I look to bond with a woman. Whether that includes threads that are completely true or not, doesn’t really matter. What matters is she feels comfort when close to me. I can build that comfort…comfort is part of chemistry (to address the comment made about having chemistry ‘just has to happen’)…that’s a beta female right there. And its complete bullshit. Look, if you understand social dynamics, social psychology, study behavior, etc. you can work within its guidelines and rules, whether they are genetic, conscious, subconscious, etc. When you understand the parameters of a person, you can work with that person. (Look up Mystery/Matador’s ‘Microcalibration’)It’s not evil manipulation, its an expedited process by which you achieve a goal, whatever that goal may be. Getting laid for some people is the goal, for me its dating a fuckin hot ass woman who’s horny and likes to have sex alot and is willing to do it everywhere and anytime. I digress. Point is, as a man, I do for me what I want for me. I study the game, I read up on it, I read the opinions, I study what betas do and why not to do what they do based on the response of the female. I also study alphas and WHY exactly they get the poon they get, why they get the women they get, why it is exactly (characteristically speaking) they pull the highest valued women. I was a beta for most of my life (30 now) and in the last year began reading this stuff after being introduced by a good friend, who I am constantly talking about this stuff with. Concepts and ideas, failures, missed moments, etc. My last date was like reading a coloring book sitting right in front of me. I saw when she was comfortable, I saw when she was attracted, I saw everything clear as day. I kissed her, rather, made out with her in the bar for hours before going back to her place. I never apologized for anything, even though everything I did was accepted. I negged her a little bit and not once did I compliment her directly. I would bait her with ‘I think we might get along’ and ‘I might like you or kinda like you’. Never did I fulfill her desire to feel wanted…until I got her home. Then I molested her willing body until 5 am. Our second date is tonight at midnight…=) Thanks Roosh and Roissy!

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]]> By: Affection Follow-Up » Roosh V http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5551 Affection Follow-Up » Roosh V Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:00:18 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5551 [...] March 14, 2007 [...]

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]]> By: Wendy http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5425 Wendy Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:34:27 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5425 Perfect post. Perfect post.

]]> By: Days of Broken Arrows http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5375 Days of Broken Arrows Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:13:38 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5375 I'm probably way too late with this post for anyone to see, but it might be worth exploring the polar opposite of the woman who gives affection: The man basher. You come across these women in the office occasionally. They slip in comments like "So simple even a man can do it." They have pin-up posters with sayings about "The Rules" (the one that reads -- "the female makes the rules," etc.). They also regularly "shame" men by saying the ones that have trucks are trying to "compensate," the ones that play sports are really gay because they prefer the company of men, etc. I'd like to see a post on these type of women and why --surprise surprise -- they may not get dates! I’m probably way too late with this post for anyone to see, but it might be worth exploring the polar opposite of the woman who gives affection: The man basher.

You come across these women in the office occasionally. They slip in comments like “So simple even a man can do it.” They have pin-up posters with sayings about “The Rules” (the one that reads — “the female makes the rules,” etc.). They also regularly “shame” men by saying the ones that have trucks are trying to “compensate,” the ones that play sports are really gay because they prefer the company of men, etc.

I’d like to see a post on these type of women and why –surprise surprise — they may not get dates!

]]> By: blibblab http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5374 blibblab Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:41:35 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5374 Absolutely agree - but really, what's the point of bothering with a person basing their life off some two-bit HBO show? In the end, these people will just die alone cause they kept chasing after some perfect illusion. They're twits and not worth reproducing anyway. Absolutely agree – but really, what’s the point of bothering with a person basing their life off some two-bit HBO show? In the end, these people will just die alone cause they kept chasing after some perfect illusion. They’re twits and not worth reproducing anyway.

]]> By: Gunslingergregi http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5361 Gunslingergregi Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:48:51 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5361 Your just living in the right place to make money but the wrong place to meet a woman. Although the first one may be changing soon, then 20 years from now it will be the right place. The appreciation level is what counts. In another place you could pump and keep the good ones. Your just living in the right place to make money but the wrong place to meet a woman. Although the first one may be changing soon, then 20 years from now it will be the right place. The appreciation level is what counts. In another place you could pump and keep the good ones.

]]> By: Jewcano http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5360 Jewcano Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:59:59 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5360 Gatsby's right. Genevieve's comment is a prime example of why women fail. “Then again, I’m also not one to tell a guy I think he’s attractive. I’m just not like that.” What if a guy decides he's not like that? If a guy doesn't tell a girl he thinks she's cute, she'll assume he's uninterested. Why would you expect it to work different the other way? It's a self-reinforcing cycle; if you don't tell the guy you like his looks, he'll probably try to impress you in other ways, which usually involve running his mouth. Which, chances are, if he's not a smooth operator, he's going to eventually say something foolish and drive you off. Which leads you to think all guys are retarded. Let's not be naive. Barring the case where you're trying to pick up the person in the cubicle next to you, odds are almost 100% that the initial attraction is physical. Why not say so? "I'm just not like that" = "I'm going to end up living with cats" Gatsby’s right. Genevieve’s comment is a prime example of why women fail. “Then again, I’m also not one to tell a guy I think he’s attractive. I’m just not like that.” What if a guy decides he’s not like that? If a guy doesn’t tell a girl he thinks she’s cute, she’ll assume he’s uninterested. Why would you expect it to work different the other way?

It’s a self-reinforcing cycle; if you don’t tell the guy you like his looks, he’ll probably try to impress you in other ways, which usually involve running his mouth. Which, chances are, if he’s not a smooth operator, he’s going to eventually say something foolish and drive you off. Which leads you to think all guys are retarded.

Let’s not be naive. Barring the case where you’re trying to pick up the person in the cubicle next to you, odds are almost 100% that the initial attraction is physical. Why not say so?

“I’m just not like that” = “I’m going to end up living with cats”

]]> By: itscool http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5359 itscool Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:52:20 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5359 It’s the feminism at its worse. In today’s singles market there are more women who are well off financially and otherwise then men. But instead of truly believing in the feminism and may be giving the poop guys a chance they are hell bent on finding the “perfect” man. That’s the main problem with women in general and more so for American women. I know quite a large number of these women are going to so disappointed. I feel sorry for them. It’s the feminism at its worse. In today’s singles market there are more women who are well off financially and otherwise then men. But instead of truly believing in the feminism and may be giving the poop guys a chance they are hell bent on finding the “perfect” man. That’s the main problem with women in general and more so for American women. I know quite a large number of these women are going to so disappointed. I feel sorry for them.

]]> By: Mandy http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5358 Mandy Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:30:01 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5358 Great post. But I have a question--what about the whole "it's biologically encoded in men to pursue" thing? I understand that it's a total turn-on to be approached, and it can be scary to approach a girl (especially when she's with a group of other girls), but I think a lot of other factors have to be in place for this to work. Great post. But I have a question–what about the whole “it’s biologically encoded in men to pursue” thing? I understand that it’s a total turn-on to be approached, and it can be scary to approach a girl (especially when she’s with a group of other girls), but I think a lot of other factors have to be in place for this to work.

]]> By: turbocargado http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5354 turbocargado Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:24:00 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5354 hm first of all i do enjoy reading your blog but some of these comments above me seem a little over the top. maybe its just my inner-hater coming through. this happened a month ago? moved to the front of the queue and no follow-up info on what happened? maybe she was fighting with her man next to her and just wanted to make him jealous? i think girls are shy about approaching guys just like guys naturally are. guys have to get over it though, you learn you have to go after what you want and have hormones pushing you along. attractive girls are used to guys coming on to them and picking through what they want so don't have to learn how to approach guys. not much motivation to do any work the way i see it. i mean if i had hot girls approaching me everywhere i went i wouldnt be busting my ass to go talk to another random one. hm first of all i do enjoy reading your blog but some of these comments above me seem a little over the top. maybe its just my inner-hater coming through.

this happened a month ago? moved to the front of the queue and no follow-up info on what happened? maybe she was fighting with her man next to her and just wanted to make him jealous?

i think girls are shy about approaching guys just like guys naturally are. guys have to get over it though, you learn you have to go after what you want and have hormones pushing you along. attractive girls are used to guys coming on to them and picking through what they want so don’t have to learn how to approach guys. not much motivation to do any work the way i see it. i mean if i had hot girls approaching me everywhere i went i wouldnt be busting my ass to go talk to another random one.

]]> By: cob http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5353 cob Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:05:20 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5353 Roosh, you know I've been following your writing since *before* the RN(etwork) days. The trend always has been for your writing to improve. With that said, however, since the RLUG, DCB, and RV sites it seems that every 3-6 months your writing consistently pushes boundaries and continually improves a great deal. I have been travelling the last 2 weeks or so, so I just went through your posts. It's evident that you're once again turned things up another notch. A good mix of silly, inflamatory, and insightful writing. Well done. Roosh, you know I’ve been following your writing since *before* the RN(etwork) days.

The trend always has been for your writing to improve. With that said, however, since the RLUG, DCB, and RV sites it seems that every 3-6 months your writing consistently pushes boundaries and continually improves a great deal.

I have been travelling the last 2 weeks or so, so I just went through your posts. It’s evident that you’re once again turned things up another notch. A good mix of silly, inflamatory, and insightful writing. Well done.

]]> By: namaste http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5352 namaste Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:37:55 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5352 freaking excellent post, Roosh. spot on with this one. showing affection is also just being honest. we can all learn a little something from this. kudos to you. freaking excellent post, Roosh. spot on with this one. showing affection is also just being honest. we can all learn a little something from this. kudos to you.

]]> By: cob http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5349 cob Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:18:21 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5349 Well said, as usual. Well said, as usual.

]]> By: Jay Gatsby http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5348 Jay Gatsby Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:42:21 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5348 "Then again, I’m also not one to tell a guy I think he’s attractive. I’m just not like that." -- Genevieve Well, if you want to date a particular guy, you're going to have be "like that". The days of men always doing the approaching are over. Men who have a great deal going for them in their lives (career success, money, good looks, etc...) don't need to work as hard for the attention of women. So as a woman, if you want to get to know such a man (especially if he's the kind of man you want to date) then YOU will need to approach or make it quite clear that you would welcome an approach from him. If you don't, and you sit back on your throne waiting for a Prince Charming to beg/compete for your attention, you'll be lonely and bitter, or worse, you will have to settle for a lesser man when Prince Charming doesn't bother with you. “Then again, I’m also not one to tell a guy I think he’s attractive. I’m just not like that.” — Genevieve

Well, if you want to date a particular guy, you’re going to have be “like that”. The days of men always doing the approaching are over. Men who have a great deal going for them in their lives (career success, money, good looks, etc…) don’t need to work as hard for the attention of women. So as a woman, if you want to get to know such a man (especially if he’s the kind of man you want to date) then YOU will need to approach or make it quite clear that you would welcome an approach from him. If you don’t, and you sit back on your throne waiting for a Prince Charming to beg/compete for your attention, you’ll be lonely and bitter, or worse, you will have to settle for a lesser man when Prince Charming doesn’t bother with you.

]]> By: mike says http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5347 mike says Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:37:18 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5347 posts like this are the reason why this is the first site I check every morning :thumbup: And Amen to the indictment of the Cult of Carrie. A whole generation of emotionally shallow college girls has been brainwashed into believing that crippling neurosis = "quirk" and slutting around = empowerment. ::cue John Mayer's "Daughters":: posts like this are the reason why this is the first site I check every morning :thumbup:

And Amen to the indictment of the Cult of Carrie. A whole generation of emotionally shallow college girls has been brainwashed into believing that crippling neurosis = “quirk” and slutting around = empowerment.

::cue John Mayer’s “Daughters”::

]]> By: LaPay http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5346 LaPay Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:31:58 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5346 I think at least in some cases it's just that she's not into you. Not every girl is into every guy. Sometimes we see a guy and for some reason we want to make it work but can't because there's not that chemistry. The right attraction/chemistry can act as a personality lubricant in these situations, making the girl more warm and open. But it has to just happen - you can't force it. I think at least in some cases it’s just that she’s not into you. Not every girl is into every guy. Sometimes we see a guy and for some reason we want to make it work but can’t because there’s not that chemistry. The right attraction/chemistry can act as a personality lubricant in these situations, making the girl more warm and open. But it has to just happen – you can’t force it.

]]> By: mm http://www.rooshv.com/affection#comment-5345 mm Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:14:59 +0000 http://www.rooshv.com/2007/affection#comment-5345 Good post. Playing hard to get does indeed get you nowhere. I've been more sucessful making the first move on guys than waiting around for them to hit on me. Good post. Playing hard to get does indeed get you nowhere. I’ve been more sucessful making the first move on guys than waiting around for them to hit on me.

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