There was a female canvasser for the Democratic National Committee hassling people outside the Woodley Park Metro stop yesterday afternoon. She easily reeled me in after I made eye contact with her.
“Excuse me are you a registered Democrat?”
“No I’m an independent,” I said, “but I usually vote Democrat.”
“Okay good. As you may know we’re very close to getting a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. If that happens and Obama wins next month the Democrats would have control to….”
I interrupted. “I don’t think the Democrats deserve a filibuster proof majority.”
“Why not?” she asked.
“Two years ago they took control of Congress and the Senate on the premise that they would end the war in Iraq. Yet they have done no such thing. They have rubber stamped every one of Bush’s defense spending bills, and the votes haven’t even been close. Republicans didn’t even have to filibuster. Pelosi and Reid have been steamrolled by the most unpopular President in history.”
“Okay, well, umm.”
“The Democrats even voted for FISA. They voted for the recent Wall Street bailout. They’re not as bad as the Republicans, I agree, but not much better. This year I will be voting against my Democratic Congressman because he voted for the bailout. Even Obama’s timeline to end the war in Iraq has been pushed back. What is it now, 2010?”
She was stuck. The poor thing. She’s just an eager eyed young girl with Obama fever trying to make a difference, but in the end she was a sorry spokesman for her party and should head up the street to Tryst where she can practice on a more sympathetic crowd. The conversation devolved into her explaining to me how if we pull out of Iraq now the situation would get worse. I could swear that was a Republican talking point at one point. Flip sides of the same coin, someone once said to me.
After all that she still asked me if I wanted to donate to the DNC. I declined.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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There are many things I like about DC, but one of the things I hate most is the blind praise of the democratic party.
Why do people that so viciously attack the right assume that the correct answer is on the far left?
Being that I am also Independent and vote on what makes sense rather than what a “party” tells me to do so I can also say this is fairly annoying.
I was at the Ballston mall a few weeks back when I was asked if I was registered, and I said yes, I was then asked if I would like to support MY candidate, Obama and bring Change to America, I replied, “He isn’t my candidate and isn’t it a little presumptuous to assume so?” “I was then screamed at by 2 women and 1 man that I was anti-American and destroying our country.” I’m not sure who I’m voting for, but if that’s how people plan on winning my vote, I would say tactics need to be reversed, I for one can not wait for this election cycle to end.
Why do Americans seem to assume their entire political system can be stuck into one of two parties? The world just isn’t as simple as that my dear Yankees.
Look — any time someone tries to persuade you of something without having fully thought it through, it can be annoying. Also, this election season has gone on way longer than it needed to.
But this being said, these people are just trying to be civically engaged and improve the country. I don’t think their efforts warrant your “too cool for school”, know-it-all attitude. You can express your doubts about the Democratic (or Republican) Party sincerely without embarrassing people to masturbate your ego.
I dont know why anyone would vote in DC….its 90% democratic every election…..if you want to vote for a democrat in DC, dont worry its already been taken care of and your vote has no value. If you want to vote republican…..dont worry…..you have no chance, and your vote has no value.
Back when Obama was battling Clinton II, I remember driving through Wisconsin ave in Bethesda. I parked next to mazza gallery, and when I came back out 10 minutes later there were 20 Obama people with signs and posters in the middle of the road slowing down traffic. While that didnt bother me, it did bother me when I saw one of them sitting on the hood of my car with 50 signs all piled up on top of my car!!! First thing I did when I came up to my car – took all the signs and threw them in the middle of the road, I told the fucker to get off my car.
While I have little choice, and will probably end up voting for Obama, or maybe not voting at all. Here is a note to all the crazys who really think their screaming and hollaring will get me to vote one way or another……. GO FUCK YOUR MOTHER!!!!!
More importantly, was she cute and did you get her number?
i am extremely pleased Rooshy is asking these questions but we will have to vote for the lesser of the two evils
While that didnt bother me, it did bother me when I saw one of them sitting on the hood of my car with 50 signs all piled up on top of my car!!! First thing I did when I came up to my car – took all the signs and threw them in the middle of the road, I told the fucker to get off my car.
now that’s voting your conscience.
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Listening to people spout off stuff like “They supported Bush’s Defense Spending Bills.”
“They supported FISA”
just makes me laugh at a total inability to see the politcal ramifications of opposing such bills. Just because you are a Democrat, doesn’t mean you oppose defense spending bills.
You do realize that many Democrats come from districts that WANT their representative to vote for those spending bills.
Do you remember 1992?? The democrats took control of both the House, Senate and Presidency. And what did they do?? They listened to all the bonehead liberal activists like the statements you listed above. They rolled out gun control measures, gays in the military, raised taxes, dealt with abortion issues and a whole truck load of other cultural issues — And four years late the Speaker of the House was voted out and the Republicans led by Newt Gingrinch seized control of the House of Reps for the first time in a generation. I think they won a net 40 seats that year.
When it comes to Defense and Cultural issues, many in DC do not realize that the United States of America is CENTER RIGHT. They are not left, moderate left, moderate… They are CENTER RIGHT. They like the fact that American spends 500 billion on the military and they don’t think abortion clinics should be on the local corner. And they are for the most part pro-gun rights.
So while you think that the Democrats should have voted against those Defense spending bills, and while you think America should pack up and leave Iraq ASAP.. most Americans would not if presented two candidates offering opposing views.
Thank god their are smart – politically astute dems like Rahm Emanuel who understand the political playing field out there. First thing Clinton did after the 1994 Gingrich Revoloution was fire his entire political team.
As Abe Lincoln once said..:
“Public sentiment is everything. With public sentiment, nothing can fail. Without it, nothing can succeed.”
“I don’t think their efforts warrant your “too cool for school”, know-it-all attitude. You can express your doubts about the Democratic (or Republican) Party sincerely without embarrassing people to masturbate your ego.”
You’re right i should have just told her to fuck off and stop wasting my time. engaging her questions intelligently and calmly.. i’m such a dick
“was she cute”
i think i hate democratics more then republicans…probably because i’m from a democratic prone state…they’re so damn opinionated
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I always see a bunch of DNC canvassers outside the Whole Foods Market on the corner of Greenwich and Warren St in New York. I’ve been stopped by a few of them on different occasions. I still remember my first encounter with one of them.
He: Hi! Do you support Barack Obama?
He: Can I talk to you for just a minute, then?
Me: Uh… sure.
He: So, we’re asking all registered Democrats…
Me: I’m not a registered Democrat, I’m not a US citizen.
He: But you’re a green-card holder.
He: Yes, you are! And, since you can’t vote yet, the best way to contribute is by making a donation…
Me: No, I’m actually here on a student visa.
He: Well, I’m assuming you don’t like Bush very much, so if you just donate…
Me: But I’m poor.
He: It doesn’t have to be a lot, I mean, if you just…
Me: I’m really broke. I’m not kidding.
He: Only $25…
Me: Okay, fine! I’m an undocumented alien, Gosh!
I started walking away
He: Oh, come on!
Me: NO HABLO INGLES!
It works every time.
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You guys vote?
Nice job, Roosh.
I actually had a conversation eerily similar to this one a few months ago during the primaries.
I had on my Ron Paul t-shirt, but a Hillary supporter approached me. As we chatted, she rapidly devolved into a stumbled explanation of why we must stay in Iraq, and then she started ignoring my questions. An Obama supporter came over and wanted to tag-team against me, but the Clinton supporter wanted nothing more to do with me.
I agree Tampa. I’m fairly moderate and independent myself. What you said is completely correct, the nation is generally center-right and no candidate is going to get elected coming across as too liberal. People like Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich may fire up the liberal base, but they won’t be elected. Period. Barack Obama is about as liberal as you can get and still be electable.
I feel the same way on those issues, but I am finished with equivocating between Republicans and Democrats. Yes, they are both bad, but Republicans are so much fucking worse.
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Honestly, I was really surprised that you are a Democrat, since I’ve been on Roissy’s website, which has the most rabid, frothing-at-the-mouth right-wingers. I then thought that the anti-egalitarian ideas (on male-female relations) of pickup artists would propel them to the right. I guess Roissy is an isolated phenomenon.