I’m not talking about the same looks, I’m talking about personality. But, the looks are completely different and sexy in the Argentine sexy girl type of way. The girls here are sweethearts and that’s it. They want a guy to treat them right and if you do they want you, pretty simple. No manipulation necessary, anywhere in the world, even B.A.

Any obstacles you guys are coming across are more what you are doing yourself. I’m not saying I don’t hit obstacles, but when I do I don’t blame it on the girls or the culture, I look at what I’m doing and also if the girl is really someone I want.

Anyways, the girls are cute and sweethearts here. It’s pretty simple.

It’s a different game in every city, even back home so it takes a bit of adjusting but is really not that tough.

The girls are sexy here and yes, they seem to take a bit longer to sleep with them. But I think I prefer sexy girls that don’t sleep with the first guy they meet in a club…. call me weird for that.

Chau bitches!!!

That’s pretty funny, Suamericana. Half of Los Angeles looks like that juan martin hernandez…

XD

I’m from Argentina and everything you wrote isn’t true

You are a smart man.

Getting laid is good and all but if you focus your talents on making money you will also be a rich man that gets laid.

My 2 centos!

Nice posts, interesting comments. This is my second time in Argentina. I’m currently here for 4 months and hoping to land a steady piece of ass so as to not have to put in late nights at the club (I like to drink, so trying to go ‘clubbing’ invariably means I’m smashed by 1am).

Honestly though, all these posts seem very pseudo-scientific and not sure how much ‘all-encompassing theory’ can be drawn from them. For what it is worth, here’s my thoughts: just be your confident, cool self and if they don’t come to you, you don’t run into them or you don’t hit it off, fuck ‘em.

Last time I was here, I started out in B.A. Typical shenanigans as described above: early 20-somethings ‘practicing’ their English with us, taking us to a bar and then disappearing and leaving us literally stranded. As I often do despite my foreknowledge, I said fuck it, I’m not hitting on anyone. Next thing I know, chicks are hitting on me.

Granted, the first one was in El Calafate down south, near Perito Moreno. Glacier guide, you could shoe a horse on her ass it was that firm. I was genuinely interested in the region and the glacier etc… and before I know it she’s telling me about her brother, family and inviting me to the bar, wtf? Doesn’t sound too unusual; genuine interest begets genuine interest.

Second time, I’m back in B.A., I’ve entirely given up on hitting on chicks–I just don’t get flirting, never been very good at it, except once in a blue moon I’m golden–and a friend and I are boozing at this small bar, very late, when 2 beautiful women–one blond, one brunette–sit with us. Both barely speak any English and essentially sit there with us watching my buddy and I recount our month-long adventure (I’m sure they could barely understand any of it just as sure as I was that they could give a shit about us). Finally, the gorgeous blond musters all of her English (which is more than my Spanish, to her credit) and says “Why do you like Argentina,” I give her the standard, if truthful, line: nice people, nice city, something different, good personality etc… Before I know it, she is all over me, dragging me back to her apartment in the rain, kissing my neck etc… literally, she was like an abandoned puppy dog. Here’s the problem: our plane was leaving EZE in 2 hours and my buddy wrenched me away. I didn’t even realize how hot or how into me the chick was until half-way to the states b/c I was so drunk that night. She didn’t seem to care, in the least, about my gringo appetite for suds.

Currently I’m back in B.A. for a few months. More b/c I want to learn Spanish and I like the atmosphere, the exchange rate and the Euro style of Argentina more so than b/c of the ‘legendary’ beauty of the women. That said, their beauty is a wonderful bonus.

…And this is where my recent experience ties in quite well with much of the commentary above. Despite general success just ‘being myself’, I am taking Spanish classes right now and my teacher is just as fucking cute as a button. She stares/locks eyes with me outside of class and vice verse. Granted, its a controlled setting, but I’m pretty damn charming in class and she and the other women (Germans, Brazilians, US American) seem to eat it up. So I thought this would be a no-brainer. After a bit of deliberation, I approached her while she was in transition from work–when Spanish classes were out–and she acted like I was dog food. I asked pretty basic questions that a normal person would just answer friendly. Upon reflection, she is either ‘playing games’ or she just truly is not interested. A normal person would simply have said “Yes I grew up in Palermo, I’ve been working here for 2 years and it is pretty good” rather than coldly staring, deadpan expression, and saying “Why do you want to know?”. Am I crazy or is she? I swear she seems totally normal otherwise.

hey guys, hi Roosh, alright check this out, i’ve been living here in Buenos Aires for 5 years now, im a pretty good looking guy from United States, however, here even a good looking guy will have to work for a girl. REally, the girls here are HISTERICAL, that is, have low self esteem and need you to desire them, you will have to put your dignity aside and either treat them agressively and cocky or flatter them like some loser (chamuyando) lying to them. You may feel like a bitch for it so its probably not worth it. Most pretty Argentinian girls (not allbut most)are inmature personality wise and this shows in that they play hard to get, always thinking about themselves and its hard to talk about something profound like philosophy or psychology with them, IF you want to lose your dignity and win a hysterical girl here, u should try being CONFIDENT and IGNORE the negative reactions they put up, even if sometimes they like you, it is all part of the GAME they play. The Argentinian B.A.men (americana) are not that good looking, especially taking into account their personality which is quite superficial, most ganadores, players are actually the few in Buenos Aires, and they are not good looking mostly,just agressive and “fun” CONFIDENT, MOST Buenos Aires guys actually feel bad because they cannot be cancheros or players because the girls are so damn hysterical, you will find that most people in Buenos Aires know this, it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE. So, if you want to get laid, go somewhere else, if you want to test your game come here, u just have to be CONFIDENT AND PERSISTENT. Most Argentinians girls lie to themselves saying they want a good guy, but they dont, they want a canchero or player, one who generates a lot of desire from women, its all about desire here a game of who has the power of being desired. You will find luck in hostels or clubs with non-argentinians. The problem is the culture itself, Buenos Aires culture is very poor and has a weak national identity, and this lack of self esteem gives the typical porteno stereotype of arrogant which is quite true. There are few nice and geniune, true people here, and take this into consideration when you come down because the women being less truthfull, will not admit their desire for you and will judge you not on who you are but how much power you have (of generating desire or attraction). forget being an accomplished person, only a few girls care about this. Many portenos will deny what I wrote here but it is the solid truth! be careful of this place because it can confuse you and change you, the society here destroys individuality and you may find yourself losing dignity and self respect. THANX and GOOD LUCK guys. —-if you get rejected, if you are a good guy, dont hate yourself its the country and its values. trust me.

Hey Roosh – “Because Argentine women are different” you stated. I disagree. This kind of crap they are pulling is very familiar to me because it is essentially Americanized, albeit Americanized-light behavior. All the self-entitled princess shit culture that the USA is now famous for has spread like a cancer to Argentina. A lot of skanks here have adopted a quasi Paris-Hilton-wannabee tendencies. There are better places in SA for snatch so why bother to travel all those miles on a plane only to encounter the horseshit you wanted to leave in the great wasteland USA.

Come on guys… I was shot down for a week in BA, but after a couple of spanish lessons and a less indirect approach the results came! Like a reader said earlier, you have to go for a kinda smooth James Bond style. But it doesn´t mean you can´t kiss the girl early on in the interaction. 75% I would kiss after less than 5 minutes. So, game on, boys! Be slick, it is more in the attitude than in what you say. If you think you have to use neg, you are probably not worthy for the cutie anyways… The argentine guys I have seen game, are all pretty natural, but not necessarily effective. They are what i would call kinda clingy and it is not something you want to emulate!

i think there is a lot to what sudamericana says…. american guys tend to equate being direct with being all up in a girls grill and being the token guy at the club who talks to every piece of meat in sight. the latino version of being direct is a mix of absurdist flattery. a premium is not placed on downgrading the girl, in making her feel inferior and thus in a defensive position of qualifying herself to you. you have to seduce her, and that is done through the eyes, the words, and the body through dancing.

Backdoor Man, rather than Messi or Maradona, who I could not care less about, if you want to know what type of guys I’m talking about (and are feeling just a little bit gay today) switch from soccer to rugby, and google images for “juan martin hernandez”or “juani hernandez”. You can find many ordinary guys who look quite similar to him in Argentina, but I have yet to see one in the US. Add their amazing flirting skills to that… and you get the picture

The “social proof” point in regards to Argentina is totally spot on… and that’s something I do not like about my country… in fact, girls usually go out to particular places hoping to run into specific guys who they know and like from before, so they won’t even look at gringos

LOL when I read the anon comment about SA guys saying that American girls believe everything you say… cause in fact, when in a previous comment I was making reference to my Argentine guy friends who approach girls here and have a tremendous success rate, I was remembering the big lies they would tell the girls, just for kicks, knowing they would fall for them… so one of the guys would pretend he was a poet, another one a surf instructor, etc. and continue that sort of story for hours… Argentine guys lie, but their flattery can actually makes you feel great, even if it’s only for one night

If the girls you met in Bariloche were rather young, they may have lowered their bitch side cause that’s were they go for their big high school graduation trip. So think one huge Spring Break that you have been waiting for for years and years, where the number one goal is to get as drunk as you’ve ever been (and where girls tend to lose their inhibitions cause there’s an “anything goes” sense to it).

But argentinian girls in the northeast have a preference for black guys, though. Learn about the holidays in argentina and then book a trip to any of those places.

Lastly, Bariloche i Argentina proper is a sort of south american ibiza in the Andes, where the girls also lower their bitch shields

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Argentina was difficult. I’ve never been blown out more, although I was having a good time anyway. In 4 nights, the only success I had was my final one, when I entered a club in a popular but non-gringo zone and projected the strongest shockwave vibe of confidence I could muster, and managed to only get the attention of one cutie. I took her home, but here’s the punchline: she was Colombian. Lesson learned. Medellin next!

ok, having spent a significant amount of time in colombia and venezuela, I can say with confidence that half the reason the women there are so feminien and care so much about beauty is that when they put the effort in, they are rewarded with positive attention galore from men. the men there just LOVE women, they love their beauty and women respond accordingly. this is whats missing in the states.

Yeah, I was going to say Venezuela.

Don’t count out Espana either.

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Roosh,

Since Game is so heavily based on evo psych and more general psychology, there is an implication–that is often reaffirmed amongst those of us who study Game–that a woman’s attraction buttons are intrinsic features of her brain, and are more or less identical across all female humans. Clearly though, culture influences play SOME role in what a woman finds attractive. I’m curious, do you have any general thoughts as to the principles of Game that really do apply to ALL women–all over the world, all throughout time–and those that are more dependent on cultural factors?

Brazilians are generally not as pretty as Argentines, but I submit that Colombians are just as pretty. Perhaps even more so. Women there have been steeped in beauty-pageant culture, so even the toughest and most feminist woman there has, somewhere, a deep desire to be a beauty queen or the regret that they weren’t one. That femininity is matched only, perhaps, by Venezuela.