1. Ticket prices go up every year. I don’t believe I let my friend pay $11 for me to see The Dark Knight. In college a ticket at the newest theater with stadium seating cost me $7. That’s an increase of 57% in 7 years. But…
2. Box office grosses are not inflation adjusted. Especially not when reported by the MPAA. That’s why each sequel of Spiderman and sorry Star Wars kept breaking records. And even if they were inflation adjusted…
3. The U.S. Governments CPI which is used to provide inflation adjusted figures is pure fantasy. Since the 90′s the CPI has been grossly under reporting inflation. It barely accounts for the things that are actually going up in price (food and gas) because they are too “unstable.” No shit.
Why aren’t box office numbers measured objectively with number of tickets sold? Because ticket sales are flat. No hype can be created in flat numbers and no records can be broken. The music industry uses objective numbers with album sales and look how far that has gotten them the past decade. (No music record involving physical CD’s will be broken ever again from this point on.)
Box off records are propaganda to get you excited about seeing increasingly bad movies that cater more and more to teenagers, a reliably bored audience that swallows tripe like The Dark Knight.
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If I had a nickel for every time I said that, I’d have $500 million.
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yo man, a better measure of inflation is the GDP Deflator.
Here’s a nice table I found, with box office receipts adjusted for ticket price inflation. Who’s #1? Gone in the Wind. Cool thing about the list, there are actually some really good movies in it.
Dark Knight is #27, and Spiderman is #34.
Good post, but disagree that that movie sucked
That’s because you’re looking at it from a consumer point of view, you’re not looking at it from an industry/investor point of view.
Also, I can’t pass up the opportunity to add my own voice to the chorus of Dark Knight bashers:
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I haven’t seen a movie in the theater since “ET” when I was a little kid.
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I once read that back in the 1930′s something like half of the people in America would see at least one movie per week. Whatever the percentage is today, it’s certainly much, much lower.
Yo – you’re getting really deep into this economic shit.
You want to see what the market thinks of our financial institutions long term solvency??
Check out the price of the 3 month Tsy.. The yeild is like .8%
That tells you that people would rather put their money in a 3 month tsy bill at .8% – then put their money in a Bank CD.
Pretty f-ing scary brother. I think its safe to say that the “money” is riding on total collapse.
Amazing that anyone would put their money in a product that doesn’t even yeld 1% return. God damn country is going in the shitter.
Eventually movies are going to be so expensive there will be a rich kid club where people will spend $500 for a single movie and that will lead to amazingly high box office revenues, and the rest of us will be stuck watching high quality rips from China in a back alley projection system. Go figure.
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Disagree on Dark Knight.
Agree on movie tickets.
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Seriously, Dark Night will look like Dr. Zhivago once you see the likes of Moby Dick 2: Dick Harder.
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Peter, your comment reminded me of the way that, until a few years ago, I used to be an avid moviegoer, seeing two, three or even more films a week. Unfortunately, however, now being well on the way to becoming a grumpy old man (well, not that old), I gave up on cinemas after becoming increasingly annoyed by the behaviour of other people in the audience, particularly morons who WOULDN’T SHUT THE FUCK UP DURING A PICTURE! (I don’t know if people like that started becoming a lot more common, or if I just started noticing them more.) I don’t think I’m the only one who’s given up on seeing movies at the cinema, though; in the city where I reside (Adelaide, Australia), the last cinema complex in the city itself recently closed. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if cinemas themselves go the way of the old drive-ins.
Re all the comments on The Dark Knight, although I’ve not seen that movie myself, I figure it couldn’t be any worse than the piece of shit I wasted a buck-fifty hiring and watching last night – Alien Vs Predator 2: Requiem! Seriously, is there some School for Bad Movie-making that the directors of crap like that attend?
“The Dark Knight” is currently the third best movie of all time according to IMDB. And I agree. Sorry to reopen this debate, but I missed your post condemning the cinematic masterpiece that is The Dark Knight.
All of these minor problems are just you saying what is ‘unlikely’. Cinema,and really just any story in general is about people doing amazing things. If you take away the fantastic element then it gets boring. For example, everyone loved the Joker’s ability to stab a pencil into a table and then through the eye socket of some street tough. It’s never been done before, it seems ridiculous. That’s why people loved it. The source material they were using, namely the comics, have the same things going on. The Joker’s rabid aggression against Batman’s martial arts..
5. It’s Batman’s rule. He doesn’t kill people. He doesn’t make judgments about who deserves to live and die, it’s the difference between vigilante and serial killer. It’s a continuous theme in most of the comics and the movie. If you want a hardcore murderous batman you should read Frank Miller’s “The Dark Knight Returns”
6. Would the movie have been better if the criminals wanted to kill the other boat? And the citizens had the higher moral standards? No, realism and predictability means bad movies alll the time.
1. Is Rachel the smart, educated attorney, who is able to show a degree of emotional maturity and still attract men a bad influence on young girls? Really? Should they have cast someone with nicer tits? Maybe an Ally McBeal type character. Even among fans of The Dark Knight, I’m pretty much alone in saying I liked Maggie Gyllenhal.
2. Two-Face was used to give the story an emotional arc. The Joker was meant to be a reoccurring character. There were so many lines that implied constant antagonism between Batman and Joker. Of course, Heath Ledger somehow managed to get out of his contract. Two-Face is not a super villain in the movie. He’s not even really called “two-face” as a character name. He’s just a symbol. It shows how Batman’s pragmatism wins out against Dent’s idealism. You can’t be a perfect person in an imperfect world.
3. Changes in the Dark Knight
-Harvey Dent’s fall from grace
-The bat signal is destroyed. Batman’s hunted by the police now.
-Batman truly explores what it is to be a hero. He learns it’s not about doing the right or honourable thing. It’s about sacrifice to dothe best thing for everyone. The first movie is about Bruce Wayne deciding to be Batman, the second movie is about him learning what that means. Just because you couldn’t see a clear visual change of him dressing up like a bat, it doesn’t mean the character didn’t change.
Lots of good movies have no clear resolution. The best movies of all the time. Let me just check IMDB’s list….
The Empire Strikes Back – Definetely no resolution by the end. So much is left hanging, because it’s part of a larger story, like Batman. Yet it’s often called the best of the series.
Citizen Kane – The ending is pretty open-ended. I still don’t really know what happened.
Gone with the Wind – He just leaves her at the end. And then she vows to get him back. And that’s it.
REASONS PEOPLE CAN’T HANDLE BATMAN AS AN AMAZING MOVIE
1. It’s a superhero movie. For some reason the fact that these guys dress up in tights and give themselves ridiculous names destroys all their credibility. The truth is it’s an amazing way to present archetypes, themes, and social commentary.
Watchmen is in TIME’s 100 best novels of all time, and it’s a superhero comic
2. Heath Ledger. Smart people are afraid to say Heath Ledger’s joker was amazing, because it’s been so blown up and publicized that it makes them seem like all the idiots who say it. But the truth is, though people exaggerate how great he was, they’re actually bang on. He thought up that Joker, and he could have been so lame. When I heard they cast Heath Ledger I was so disappointed. But, this is a rare case where he actually deserves all the pity praise he’s getting for having died.
3. It was entertaining. People seem to think that if the action’s good, it was fun, and there are awesome explosions then it can’t be a good movie. There have been great movies that were made for next to nothing. But nobody should hold the fact that The Dark Knight had a studio budget against it.
4. Christian Bale’s robot voice. It was kind of lame.
Nic: it still sucked
it was actually the best movie this decade at the very least. More likely the best ever. Since Roosh provides no argument for why it sucked, i guess i can make a statement like this as well.
Dark Knight did suck. Here are a some reasons:
1) It was too long. Any decent editor could have cut at least thirty minutes off this fat pig. Hell, I think Peter Jackson could have shaved some time off of Dark Knight. Much of the story was completely unnecessary.
2) Batman’s super bass growl was really annoying. Who the hell cleared that?
3) Could you hit us over the head with that personal dilemma some more please??? There may be some cockroaches out there somewhere who aren’t familiar with Batman’s inner turmoil, but probably not movie going cockroaches. Hero hero hero hero hero hero hero hero… hero hero hero hero needs hero hero city hero needs hero right hero for the city… blah. Am I wrong or was half the dialogue in the movie centered around that?
4) The ferry scene was predictable. Ok, maybe not to some… who could ever think that a prisoner might have a conscience that goes above and beyond that of the everyday conformist citizen… geez
On the other hand it was a very well made fat pig. I have agree with Nic that Ledger deserves praise for his portrayal of the Joker. Bale and others did a great job and I also really dig Maggie Gyllenhall.
However, the end of the movie COULD have come much sooner. I was probably the first one out of the theater, date in tow.