The Super-Aggressive Game Of Brazilian Guys

Brazilian game as told to me by a Brazilian guy:

Alright all you have to do is walk up to her and say ‘What’s your name?’ Then you give the two cheek kisses but make sure you do it nice and close. Then make her laugh a couple times and touch a lot and after that go for the kiss. Just go for it. It may take a couple tries.

You’ll find a lot Brazilian guys who say, “Yeah Brazilian girls kiss so fast. It’s very easy to kiss them.” But it’s not necessary because the girls are making fast moves, it’s because Brazilian guys go for it incredibly quick (the ones who have game, anyway).

Now I do think Brazilian girls put out an early “kiss me” vibe, but the guys guys definitely don’t waste any time. In other words if you’re a guy who isn’t aggressive with Brazilian girls, you may not automatically come to the conclusion they’re fast kissers.

(Now compare that to gringos I see in the hostel talking to some hippie girl for four hours in the patio without even touching her when you know he wants to hit. It’s like they’re waiting for the girl to be a man and step up.)

The guy who told me his strategy (let’s call him Renato) is from Recife, a city in the northeast. Along with three of his other friends, they were kissing a random girl in Pipa every night. One of them kissed a girl who couldn’t have been older than 14.

I was floating through a crowd with Renato’s friend and approached two Brazilian girls with something casual. It opened and we’re each talking to the girls. Lucky for me one of them spoke fluent English, but unfortunately she lost her voice and I could barely understand her. I tried reading her lips but that didn’t work so the best I could do was pick out a word here or there and pretend like I understood.

She didn’t want to dance, instead preferring to stand right underneath the club speaker, and she also didn’t want to move to the quiet, dark alley nearby. She was asking me questions that I couldn’t hear so on the surface she seemed interested, but to me the situation seemed rather hopeless.

Eventually I just gave up and stopped talking to her. I deemed this an impossible case. (If she wanted to dance though it would have been relatively easy.) Then Renato moved in. Actually he tried to move in before I was done but I casually blocked him out.

I watched him to see if he would do anything differently. He had her hand on her side, same thing I did, and made her laugh with a couple jokes, which I did as well. But then the frustration on his face became apparent when she tried talking. He kept putting his hands up in the air as if saying, “I can’t hear a single fucking thing that’s coming out of your mouth!” She declined to dance with him as well. I knew he felt what I did and was about to bow out.

Ah but there would be no post if he did.

He changed tactics and instead of asking her questions and trying to maintain a conversation, he just kept talking nonstop as if reading from a monologue. The things he was saying must’ve been cocky because she kept playfully hitting him, a sure sign you’re on the right track with a girl. Then he went for it. Only three minutes after I stepped aside, he tried to kiss her. She leaned way back to avoid his mouth and he gave a look that said, “Hey, what’s wrong?” She strongly shook her head no.

Over the next 15 minutes, Renato went for it at least seven times. It was painful to watch him get rejected again and again, especially when I saw it coming each time. Her body position was permanently set in a way to get ready for the backwards lean and after every rejection he would just make her laugh some more and keep touching to get ready for the next rejection. She didn’t walk away from him though, and kept playfully hitting him.

I walked around and when I came back I caught the instant where Renato went in for one more kiss. He grabbed her in a way which made it very difficult for her to move back, almost forcing her but not quite, and this time it worked. They went at it hard and sloppy.

I can’t stress how strongly she did not want to kiss him. Her rejections were so brutal, again and again, and if Renato was a close friend of mine I’d tell him to give it up to preserve his dignity.

If you see this type of caveman game you think, “Hmm this seems to be where it’s at. I just have to be super aggressive.” This is what I thought at first, but I kept watching and hanging out with Brazilian guys on subsequent nights, and the dirty truth is this: Brazilian guys kiss a lot of girls, but they don’t get a lot of bangs. Let me demonstrate why this is with an example from the world of book sales.

Say you wrote a book on knitting and was looking to advertise it on some knitting blog. You submit three different advertisements and run them all simultaneously. Here are the ads:

1. “Click here to check out an incredible new knitting book.”

2. “Finally! A resource that helps you knit clothing for you and your friends. Click here to learn more.”

3. “Click here for dozens of new knitting patterns.”

The ads run for a week and each get displayed 100 times. Here are the results:

1. 4 clicks and 2 sales. 50% conversion rate

2. 12 clicks and 3 sales. 25% conversion rate

3. 20 clicks and 1 sale. 5% conversion rate

The problem with the first ad is that it oversells—you’re telling people to just buy a book. Not many people will click the ad, but those that do will probably buy it. In the third ad you’ll get a lot of clicks from people looking for free knitting patterns but then they’ll get turned off when they find out you’re selling something. The second ad has the best mix. By saying “resource” you imply this may not be free, so you get clicks from people who are curious about new knitting information and may want to pay for it.

Clicks are kisses and sales are bangs. Very roughly speaking, American guys use ad one and Brazilian guys use ad three.

American guys roll up to a girl and say okay here is my job and my Netflix queue, click here to have sex with me. Many girls say no, but if they eventually do get the kiss chances are they’ll have an decent chance of banging.

Brazilian guys roll up to a girl and say “Hey what’s up you look pretty tonight” and then bam try to kiss. I’m not exaggerating. Brazilian guys go around certain clubs basically assaulting girls until they find one that submits to relentless pressure. Many times I’ve seen a guy corner a Brazilian girl and just force her to kiss while she tries to squirm out of it. They get it a lot of time, but of course it doesn’t result in a lot of “sales” because kissing alone isn’t enough to make a girl want to have sex with you.

The problem with going for the kiss super fast is that is disturbs the bang progression. To get bangs you build attraction over time, punctuating her increasing interest with escalation in the form of personal questions, touching, heavy touching, and then kissing. You’re building a storyline that shows your personality but also hints at passionate things to come. You form tension that is begging to be relieved in the bedroom.

Brazilian guys form no storyline, no tension. The whole interaction is about the kiss. And when they get it then the story comes to an early close. I’ve seen guys get the kiss and then two minutes later they’re back with their group of friends. Plus the guys insist on slobbering over the girl’s face, leaving very little imagination for increased pleasure that could come later.

But if you were to tell a Brazilian guy to delay the kiss, he’d call you crazy. I believe to them kissing is more important than banging, but to me banging is more important. I’m not going to kiss a girl unless she invests into the interaction by showing interest (asking me questions, reciprocating some touches), because that’s what it takes to close the sale.

The ideal time to get the kiss is at the 1 or 2 hour mark, depending on the girl’s culture. By then the girl will be invested enough, and the kiss will increase the interaction’s energy so that you only need 2-4 more hours to get the bang, assuming she’s that “type” of girl. So that’s 3 hours or more for the one night stand. (If I haven’t gotten the kiss by hour three, then it’s unlikely I will get the one night stand.) A downside of this is that you do commit your Friday night or whenever to one girl, but if you’re in the business of banging and not just kissing then this is how it’s done.

My intention here is not to trash the game of Brazilian guys. Their aggressiveness is admirable and I have picked up a couple small things from them, but no matter how long I stay in Brazil I don’t think I’ll completely adopt their strategy because the sales data shows they are on the extreme end of the spectrum. Passive Western guys who don’t try anything, like the hostel guy I mentioned in the beginning, are at the other end. It’s working the middle that will see the most bangs, where you are aggressive but allow the girl to be aggressive as well. Only when she puts in a good bulk of the work will you seal the deal consistently.

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    they kissed a girl and they liked it

  • Evan

    Roosh–Been reading your blog for a few months and developing my game for about as long. Got your book yesterday and I’m seventy pages in. Helpful. Thanks.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    Brazilian Game is like trying to throw big hooks and haymakers right from the opening bell. You might get some KO’s but more often you will miss or get tagged in return.

    I like to “feel out” (so to speak) my opponent in the early rounds with jabs and some hard body shots.

    Then I like to use some footwork, ring generalship and defensive mastery.

    Once I feel I get the better of my opponent, I employ some effective aggressiveness, step up the body attack and close the show by stoppage.

    Michael Mason by KO in the middle rounds.

    - MPM

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  • http://recklessnessandaudacity.blogspot.com TAllagash

    i like the feel out analogy above. i try to gauge her reaction to touching her during conversation, see if she responds with touch in kind, no response, or changes her body language in response.

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  • http://themodernsavage.com/ Matt Savage

    I don’t think your typical American guy is like #1 sales tactic at all. The over-sell approach, as you say, is more of an analogy to Direct-game, which is not like your average American male at all. In fact, it’s the opposite, American guys under-sell, much like the hostel guy, where he just lingers and hopes that the girl(customer) will initiate the sale.

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  • http://travelvice.com craig | travelvice.com

    Roosh – this is spot-on. But what I don’t think you explored is how Brazilian women are reacting to your _conversation_ instead of lunging at them for the kiss. They’re so use to the hyper-aggressive game, some Brazilian women I’ve talked with complain that the gringos are too passive/beta.

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  • http://krauserpua.wordpress.com Krauser

    Excellent post. I was trying to figure this out on Friday night. I was in a club with a Brazilian wing (in London) and he was there with his target and her friend (also Brazilians). Pretty much right away the friend, an HB5 tops, gives a mild approach invitation to some good looking but slightly chode Brazilian dude. He was way better looking than her. He walks right over, gets up close, escalates kino in about two minutes then starts kissing. She goes with it without resistance. Then ten minutes later they are up against the wall making out. Another five minutes and she dismisses him and comes talks to our group the rest of the night.

    I’m curious so I run my standard attraction game on her including some NLP. She’s now heavy kino with me but I don’t go for the kiss – I just don’t care, she’s only a 5 and I don’t want this dudes sloppy seconds. After aout ten minutes she seems to sense I am not going to kiss her, so she wanders off and the attraction dies.

    The whole episode is completely outside my usual talky game – which is more like Roosh’s middle advert. The Brazilian thing fascinates me, cos I really like the girls but all the guys seem like no-game cavemen.

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  • vomit

    “Okay here is my job and my Netflix queue, click here to have sex with me” = comedic gold.

  • Roosh

    craig / krauser: If a girl ONLY wants to kiss you, then she will get very frustrated and ditch you if don’t move fast (10-30 mins). But if she genuinely likes you, she will wait quite a while for you to make a move. In fact, not kissing Brazilian girls quickly screens out the ones who just want to kiss and not do more.

    I’d estimate that Brazilian guys bang 1 out of every 15 girls they kiss. I’m doing about 1 out of 3. So I don’t kiss a lot of girls like them, but there is a decent chance I’ll hit when I do. Another benefit of my strategy is that I get fewer colds.

  • nathan

    To me, this post serves as a clarification/qualifier for Roosh classic post The Fast Kiss (I+II), in which Roosh states

    “I go for the kiss even if I don’t think I will get it”

    Which kind of seems like he’s advocating the aggressive Brazilian game. Here, he clarifies that it’s important to wait for the green lights and emphasizes “bang progression” which is so crucial.

  • http://Social-masters.com/blog David Black

    “click here to have sex with me” I may just get a t-shirt with this printed on, button and all. Great post man, very insightful.

    David Black’s last blog post: Keep Plugging Away.

  • Il Capo

    Great post. I’ve been faced with post-makeout flakiness a few times, and not in Brazil. I was going “shotgun approach” while in Cancun and scored makeouts with a Canadian girl and a couple of Mexican girls. All these were accomplished within 10 minutes, only for the girls to flake within the next 5 minutes. First girl refused a venue change, second girl told me she was going to the bathroom and never came back (leaving the club). Third girl was baby-sitting her passed out drunk male friend (not sure whether he was in the LJBF zone or not) so she had a valid excuse.

  • speakeasy

    I’m not a fast mover by any means but the one time I did move in for a quick kiss while dancing, I got her number and called her and she never called back. After some post-game analysis I figured that my mistake was that there wasn’t enough invested in her to think of it as anymore than spur of the moment fun.

    Good analysis. I like the comparison to ad spots.

    So many people have the impression that Brazilian dudes must be getting ass like crazy since their main impression of Brazilian women is someone in a string bikini gyrating her giant ass on a samba float. But it’s good to get to hear the real deal.

  • Chris

    I think that if you don’t get a bang out of a kiss, albeit it doesn’t need to be on the same night, then you’ve kissed too early and therefore have showed too much sexual interest before she was attracted to you.

    Unless you have very tight game, and can continue with her like the forced kiss never happened, then this can be tough to recover from. If you continue with sexual neediness/advances without first building her interest, then she will view you as an average chump. This is what most guys do.

    Aggressiveness is a great way (maybe the best) to build attraction, but only when done in a way that competently builds her interest in you. Otherwise, its only neediness, no matter what you tell yourself and how many kisses you get.

    A kiss should signify mutual interest to do so. An interest arising out of sexual attraction. If you can get her interest that far, then you’ve fucked up if you can’t escalate it to the bedroom within a couple of more dates. If you can’t, the sexual attraction was likely a fluke and a miscalculation, that she later realized, on her part. In other words, you weren’t as cool as she originally thought you to be.

    A guy who can run competent aggressive game, especially in Portugese, would likely clean up in Brazil, as they do everywhere else.

  • Chris

    By “competent aggressive game”, I meant direct game, not necessarily the caveman “you can’t escape” pseudo rape game. lol.

  • Roosh

    Evan: Thanks

    Nathan: In the past when talking about “The Fast Kiss” I’m speaking of American girls and kissing them around the 1 hour mark. Brazilian guys go for it at the 5 minute mark. That’s a HUGE difference. Don’t think that when I’m speaking of the fast kiss in the past I’m talking about Brazilian style…it’s completely different.

    “I go for the kiss even if I don’t think I will get it”

    This is unrelated. It means you should kiss girls even if you’re not absolutely sure she’s down. She could have shown signals, but there is no certainty.

  • Anonymous

    sorry man. tl;dr

  • http://pregametime.blogspot.com Willy Wonka

    I’ve never been that big on kissing chicks… the only reason I do it is to bang later. Some chicks I’ve even fucked without ever kissing them – although that’s rare and somewhat hard to do, as chicks do like to kiss.

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  • Anonymous

    Buildup/Tension can make all the difference.

    I had this date with a girl I had made out before and I could’ve done it a second into our second meeting but I choosed not to. By the time I escalated things she nearly bursted from the anticipaion. So, I had no resistance because she was overwhelmed with her feelings. No ASD/LMR kicking in.

  • http://www.homeless-bliss.com homeless

    So, the Brazilian guys have a lot of confidence but no knowledge of the Game science?

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  • Quasi

    Nice blog… I think thats precisely whats my guide from Rio have been telling me about, and she doesnt like the aggressiveness… especially those steroid guys that grabs and kisses…

    So think the meta game will come of strong if you can sweet talk the girls and approach her aggressively but then just seem to be interested for a while, while she is starting to wonder if you really wanna bang her or just talk.

    “Another benefit of my strategy is that I get fewer colds.” priceless quote

  • Aloof

    I’m Brazilian. This is a good critique of “Brazilian game” — a contradiction in terms, the way I see it.

    I never go caveman. It looks fucking ridiculous, pushing and begging for a kiss like that. And you’re right, they hardly ever bang, but they get to suckface a lot.

    There’s all this bullshit culture about “pegada” (caveman pickup) around here, which really destroys the whole seduction process. Some girls think you’re too slow if you don’t go caveman, while most will only have sex if they are in a relationship with you.

    As you noted in “Odds and Ends”, Brazilian girls rely heavily on stuff like Orkut and Facebook to check you out, but it also doesn’t usually lead to anything more than checking out.

    I run a mix of Aloof and Aggressive, but I rely too much on conversation, and that kills at least half my chances in Brazilian social venues, most clubs playing stupid noise so that extroverted douchebags and bubbly cunts can dance. Too bad these bubbly cunts are usually decent-looking.

    13. “So many people have the impression that Brazilian dudes must be getting ass like crazy since their main impression of Brazilian women is someone in a string bikini gyrating her giant ass on a samba float. But it’s good to get to hear the real deal.”

    That may happen sometimes in Rio and the northeast, but most of Brazil is not like that at all. I live in the south, which is more of a micro-Europe, as there are much more whites, and we have a wholly different social dynamic. The great majority of girls here won’t let you bang them if not in a relationship, but they will let you suckface and grope them.

    Roosh, any chance you’re coming to the south? The quality of girls here is notorious, but if you expect to bang them quickly you will be disappointed.

  • Roosh

    Yeah I’m heading to Porto Alegre by way of Sao Paulo in about a month or so.

  • Aloof

    Porto Alegre is a big city, so the girls are a bit wilder on occasion. My advice is that you give the impression that you’re looking for a relationship, and that you’re demanding. You have to give them the illusion that it will develop into something, even if only short-term. If your game is consistent with their style, you will bang some of them.

  • Beebopaloo

    Agressive game has got some huge advantages that you don’t talk about.

    example: girl likes two guys equally: Guy 1 stays around and talk stupid shit or try to build rapport for half an hour. The energy of the interaction goes down as a natural consequence.

    Guy 2 does 5 minutes of bantering, and then goes in for the kiss and gets it.

    Who gets the girl?

    The answer is that girls most of the time will be congruent with their earlier behavior – if they kiss a guy, it gets hard for them to not keep kissing all evening, and also they won’t look for other options.

    Kissing early wins you loads of time, and makes it easy and natural to extract.

    I guess the brazilian guys are just being to needy after getting the kiss instead of using that “extra” time they’d bought themselves to build comfort.

  • Zictor

    I usually don’t like what Roosh posts, but this was spot on. I liked it so much that started writing and realized that my comment is getting massive, so I’ll do it in parts.
    I am a Brazilian from Recife. After having lived around the world in many different situations (Exchange student, backpacker and now young professional), I’ve notice a few things. I’ve also talked with Brazilians who have lived abroad and we notices a few patterns and here’s my conclusion:
    First @ Aloof,
    Your comment about those things maybe happening in the Northeast is wrong. We actually think the South is easier up North.

    The culture of “pegada” is everywhere around Brazil. But “pegada” doesn’t translate as caveman game (not totally, at least). Pegada could be translated roughly as “the catch”. Here’s how it works:
    • Brazilian man can be classified into 4 types, when it comes to approaching women:
    • Machine guns: Constantly shooting and trying. Those are the ones described in the post.
    • Semi-Automatic Rifles: More controlled than the above, we consider them normal.
    • Sniper rifles: Guys who almost never try, but when they do, they hit beautifully
    • Russian roulettes: only one bullet, most of the tries result in nothing. Shy, awkward, you know the type.
    This definition isn’t clear cut, people aren’t fully in one type or another, but it gives a good general picture.
    Now Brazil is a country with strong catholic traditional and the mentality is usually very provincial. People live in closed groups and aren’t very open to newcomers. This also means that if a girl sleeps with (or kisses, depending on a number of factors like age, environment, circumstances) too many guys, she gets a huge scarlet “S” around her neck. Everybody talks about it. Same goes for booty calls that aren’t and “official” relationship.
    This generated a seduction theory that me and my Brazilian friends from my exchange year abroad call the “zero-sum”. The aggressiveness of men generates resistance in women so they can cancel each other and achieve balance. It’s a type of “seduction Darwinism”, if you will.
    For Brazilian women, this means:
    • If she likes a guy, she can’t show it too much, or she’ll be labeled as easy/slut.
    • She starts to appreciate effort. So a guy might earn points by being persistent (which doesn’t always translate into enough points to close)
    • If a guy is too slow, he is perceived as Beta
    For Brazilian men, this means basically that we aren’t always discouraged by rejection and hold on to minimal signals of interest. So we keep prospecting to see if there is more. Because of the longer time, there are also bigger chances of totally screwing up or simply being wrong.
    “Pegada”
    In this context, the “pegada” culture is about competence. A guy who has “pegada” is a true Alpha, who comes without knocking on the door, but is nevertheless welcomed in. He is the guy who sees that the woman wants him with minimum signals on her part, and strikes at the right moment, sweeping her off her feet.
    So, delivering the promised goods is essential to the culture. She will evaluate his performance making out to decide if she’ll sleep with him or not. It’s like anywhere else, but it doesn’t disrupt bang progression like Roosh says. Brazilians like to kiss, it comes easy to us. So the kiss happens earlier in the progression, but doesn’t break it. And if your pegada wasn’t good, she won’t sleep with you. You have to use the kiss to build up the tension. You have to show her you have more to offer, by actually giving her something.

  • Aloof

    @Zictor,

    I don’t know where the hell you people get the idea that it’s easier down south. The closest thing we have to a fuckfest here is the Oktoberfest in Blumenau, usually full of drunk fat girls looking for drunk desperate guys.

    That 4-type classification is good. I strive to be a Sniper, with a pre-game background of Russian roulette.

    As to “pegada”, I know what you mean. But most guys associate pegada strictly with caveman game. That’s why we see a lot of Brazilian women complaining about it. Women make a distinction between brutal caveman and the actual competence you described; most men usually don’t.

    If a guy doesn’t have a typical Brazilian temperament; if he doesn’t go around kissing, pushing and begging for it, he is perceived as a slow beta, which may be true, but not always.

    That’s why I see the pegada culture as bullshit: sometimes (not always, I know) it does disrupt bang progression. I said it destroys the seduction process because it becomes a no-win situation: if you go caveman, you will usually be rejected and considered a typical machine-gun caveman; if you don’t go caveman, you will be perceived as a slow beta. It’s a goddamn conundrum.

    There is a fine line to tread here. Running Aloof with a touch of Aggressive will yield good results, depending on the style of your targets.

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  • Cheryl

    Umm, I guess you guys missed the memo. You can’t just go around kissing complete strangers everywhere you go. Not unless you’re trying to catch herpes.

  • Anonymous

    As a brazilian woman I do recognize that we brazilians are very physical and we do not find the brazilian men (most of them) very trustful. I think that we do engage in kissing very easily, firstly ’cause we like kissing and secondly ’cause the kiss is kind of a test for us women, if the guy is not a good kisser…no way there will be a second date.

  • Felipe Romero

    Well, folks, as a brazilian guy and well fond of the game i know.. we like women.. to tell u the truth: aproaching depends always on the place, on the people… it´s not a cavemen job.. absolutely not..
    Yet u should be here with us to learn it… the gringas like it =D
    plus : we like latinas !
    AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES! Any doubts about brazilian way, just post it here so we can discuss it

  • K

    Ok, so I read this because I found plenty of attractive Brazilian guys where I am and wanted to know how they act. When I clicked this, it wasn’t what I expected, but I like the way you write.

    I also agree with the idea of taking one’s time in order to sleep with a girl. I mean, we don’t give it up immediately, even if we’re looking for some fun. And, if a girl does want to go home with you in the first 10-20 minutes, you might wanna ask yourself why she is so easy.

    Believe it or not, you can chat us up all night long and we’ll make you think you’re getting lucky and you won’t. I’m one of those girls that likes the Brazilian guys. I’ll fuck a guy, sure, but I definitely prefer a steamy make out session. Kissing too early though is a turn off. However, I happen to like the aggressive approach of the Brazilian guys and tend to find American guys a bit boring.

    Maybe that’s because I’m an American girl and we always like what we don’t have.

    On that note, I found this incredibly amusing and informative. I love reading what guys have to say about flirting. Little insights into the male mind that help me manipulate guys even better. <3 thanks!

  • Z

    Hahahaha ..im a female reading this by accident..hahahaha I love the above comment..it’s funny because men and woman work so differently I often manipulate and play a game making it look like I’m interested in going home with a guy just so I. Can get my kick out of it because I know exactly what his tactics are…if they are good kissers and go for the aggressive approach I will pretend I’m not interested just so they can try and do it again ..and I can get my kick.. See most women like to seduce think they are anyway.. At the end of the day it’s all about who has the power .. And if you are going to go in for the aggressive approach and you let room for her to be able to do the same you should be in a win situation.. But if you act too interested after that And don’t act friendly and cool bu instead keep going in for the aggressive approach in my opinion you have killed it and come on too strong after that .. It’s like playing with a cat.. If you dangle a toy in front of the cat the cat will play I you leave it there too long and push the toy into the cat the cat will run away.. But if you play.. Then pull away then play you will be playing with that cat all night long!

  • ZEl

    Hahahaha ..im a female reading this by accident..hahahaha I love the above comment..it’s funny because men and woman work so differently I often manipulate and play a game making it look like I’m interested in going home with a guy just so I. Can get my kick out of it because I know exactly what his tactics are…if they are good kissers and go for the aggressive approach I will pretend I’m not interested just so they can try and do it again ..and I can get my kick.. See most women like to seduce think they are anyway.. At the end of the day it’s all about who has the power .. And if you are going to go in for the aggressive approach and you let room for her to be able to do the same you should be in a win situation.. But if you act too interested after that And don’t act friendly and cool bu instead keep going in for the aggressive approach in my opinion you have killed it and come on too strong after that .. It’s like playing with a cat.. If you dangle a toy in front of the cat the cat will play I you leave it there too long and push the toy into the cat the cat will run away.. But if you play.. Then pull away then play you will be playing with that cat all night long!

  • BrazilianDudefromUS

    Dude, go to Sao Paulo or South of Brazil and the game is totally different and much closer to your game. Guys from the Northeast are KNOWN for being aggressive and having no game at all.
    { ATTRACT -> COMFORT -> SEDUCTION } —> Relationship

    We use negs/peacocking and create tension.
    Focus on comfort building… although I do recognize that making out it’s easier in Brazil and more natural since women expect it.

    Advice: Go to the places where Brazilians go on vacation: Florianopolis, Porto Alegre, Joinville (all cities from the South, but where do you think the famous Brazilian models came from? :) )

  • Walla

    Yeah, I agree with the dude above.