Here’s an excerpt from Bang:

Since it takes a handful of numbers to get just one date, you may feel some pressure to perform well on the dates you do go on. But you shouldn’t. Dates are much easier than when you first met her because you already have her attention and don’t need to compete with her friends or other guys. Plus, silences are more welcome. If a girl agreed to a date, that means she already likes you and you just have to eke out a respectable performance to get some action. Don’t make it harder on yourself by scheduling a first date with a group or another couple. Resist if she tries to invite you to a party with her friends and be suspicious if she runs into a friend during the date. You want the first date to be in isolation or you are back to when you first met her, competing for her attention and dealing with cockblockers.

First dates are when you can begin to cash in on your investment. You bought an ounce of gold at a low price and are now driving to the coin shop to collect a stack of money. While there may be some disagreement on the selling price, if you stick to your guns and show him a product in good condition, it’s almost a guarantee you’ll walk out of there a happy man.

I say this because I’ve had classic bad dates, where conversation and rapport was weak, but I still got at least a sloppy makeout out of it. I remember a year and a half ago I was at a bar and an okay-looking girl came up to me on her way out and said, “You’re cute.” She slipped me her number written on a dirty napkin. Since that was a first, I honestly thought she confused me for someone else, maybe James Blunt. We went out on a date at another bar a few days later and it was godawful—we weren’t vibing at all and the pauses began after only ten minutes. But I tried to kiss her anyway at the end of it and she accepted.

Keep your first dates simple: a couple drinks at one or two bars. Don’t do coffee, don’t do dinner, don’t go to the park, don’t do ice cream. Just stick to the formula that works. You can have a horrible date, but after two drinks she’s going to feel more aroused and want a little action. If she’s on a date with you then she’s interested, and if she’s had a couple drinks then it’s pretty much a guarantee you’ll get a makeout out of it.

What I don’t understand is guys who don’t try anything by the end of the first date. If that’s you, I guarantee the girls are thinking that something may be wrong with you, because they have already met tons of guys like myself who go for the gold relatively fast (and are rewarded for it). Whereas in Brazil you’re a chump if you don’t try for the kiss by the one hour mark, in the States it’s by the first date mark. The last thing you want is a girl to start wondering about your flaws instead of hers, and that’s what you do when you move too slow or change the optimal formula by being more romantic or otherwise trying to impress her.

When a girl gives you her number she was interested in you at that moment in time, but when she agrees to see you then she’s 100% down. You can get serious action from that even if she’s on a “practice date,” and even if she has to get up early in the morning. Just stick to drinking at the bar(s) and go for the kiss at the end, no matter what. Is she putting some energy into her kisses? Did she let out a little moan? Did she compliment your kissing technique? Perfect, now weasel your way back to her place or yours and destroy it. Please don’t make it more complicated than this, because it really is that simple.

In Bang I describe my favorite weasel move for getting into her place. Here’s a a few recent reviews I got via email:

let me take this opportunity to thank you for Bang; it’s clear, jargon-free, direct, full of useful practical examples—hey, what more could neophytes like yours truly ask for? Equally helpful are your little motivational speeches, especially those of the shit-or-get-off-the-pot variety, which really drive home the need for hard work and persistence. My kudos—and gratitude.

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I’ve always had success with women but it was typically girls iniating the attraction and I would finish from there, mostly with one night stands. BANG provided a foundation or, better put, a sense of comfort for me when I pursued girls. In the year and a half since I read the book, I have referenced it sparingly before dates and how to handle re-building attraction after receiving a number. Although, as I am sure you have learned, gaming becomes a style of your own and what works for you might not work for others. I now no longer use it, but BANG is good for those who need something to lean on as they develop their own game.

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Loved the book. Best pickup manual I’ve ever read. The way it was written was much more my style (in terms of thinking), as opposed to mystery method, which seemed geared more towards guys who think like engineers.

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I read Bang and just finished A Dead Bat. First of all congrats on pursuing your dreams and making the choice to live a creative and worthwhile life. That is the shit. Secondly, I was skeptical about any kind of ‘game’ theory and began reading Bang with strict scrutiny. I told a couple people about this ‘game’ info and they were also skeptical. All I can say is that last night I got the number of the hottest girl at the bar, a grad student sitting by herself who no one else had the balls or skills to approach. 60 days ago I would never have imagined I could do something like that, and I owe my success almost entirely to you. Thanks dude.

Learn more about the book or read sample pages here. It’s available in both paperback and ebook.

Excerpt from Bang…

No matter how smart or interesting of a guy you are, it is impossible to speak for those first thirty minutes without messing up, saying something stupid, or going into a completely lame topic. Luckily, girls will give you a pass on many of the foolish things you will say. They understand that not every sentence that comes out of your mouth has to be a blockbuster, but if you continue to bomb you will be booed off the stage.

When you first start talking to a new girl, you may be so pumped that you talk fast, interrupt her, and disregard things she has said because you had another line or statement in queue. You’ll have the urge to say things already marinated in your head even though the conversation is going somewhere else. Resist that temptation because it leads to choppy, disconnected conversation. Realize that the more she talks, the better, because she will give you ideas and material to continue even further.

Only catch is she won’t talk a whole lot until she finds out you’re an interesting guy worth talking to.

In Bang I advise you to aim for zero silences during the first thirty minutes of conversation. If you’re running indirect game where you need to build attraction (i.e. she’s not already crazy about you), then silence early on will kill the approach because she will do very little to “save” you. She doesn’t know you and doesn’t care much about you yet, so why would she? Therefore you must be able to talk continuously, but interestingly, for half an hour. You must have in your toolbox a couple reliable routines and a basic framework of conversation based on the location you’re at (discussed at length in Bang).

I can go into any club in the world and have default conversations regardless of the girl. An observation about the music… check. “Have you noticed…” check. “Why are the people here doing…” check. “This club reminds me of when I was in…” check. When you have a ready-made structure like this you’ll be less nervous about finding things to say. It becomes almost like a game of Mad Libs where you just change a few things to better target the girl you’re working on.

Of course there are other ways to get laid than what I teach. There are guys who can’t have good conversation yet still pull, but I guarantee you it’s not from cold approaching in a bar. They rely on other gimmicks that minimize their weaknesses or otherwise highlight their best traits. If you want to get laid from approaching, something you can do anywhere, you must get good at conversation.

In short time you’ll realize that a big chunk of game is merely having very good social skills, where you’re able to converse in a fun and interesting manner longer and better than others. For guys who are complete newbies to raw social interactions, you need to master conversations before you can move into game material (in that case I recommend the book Conversationally Speaking). If you can’t maintain a great conversation with another human being then that’s something you need to work on first.

Here’s an excerpt from Bang:

It took me some time to get comfortable with venue changing to her place or mine. I used to think not enough trust was established and there was no way she’ll let a strange guy she just met a couple hours ago take her somewhere alone, that I probably was going to murder or rape her. But this isn’t the case—if the girl thinks you are a murderer or rapist she won’t spend time talking to you. When a girl declines a venue change, it’s either because of logistics or because she doesn’t want to appear as a slut. The girls who do get turned off by your one night stand attempt are the ones who would take a long time to get into bed anyway. The attempt screens out those girls who aren’t serious about sex. Plus, having a sexual intent by using physical touching and the desire to isolate makes it clear that friendship is not in the cards. She will just walk away from you before settling into a friendship, which you are not interested in. Going for sex early is win-win: if she submits to your moves then you get laid, and if not then you can move onto the next girl without wasting valuable time.

Some of you are thinking that by only going for easy girls I’m screening out “good” girls who are worth more investment. I’d believe you but I already tried that—I tried going slow on girls I thought were more valuable than the rest, but it rarely worked out in my favor. I was either putting way too much work in it for little back, the interaction would end before I got sex, or the girl wasn’t as valuable as I initially thought.

I have much more patience with Colombian and Brazilian women because with them I’m rewarded for waiting a date or two longer. Our connection gets deeper, the intimacy is better, and generally I feel like the relationship is more healthy and not primarily based on sex. For some reason that type of patient mindset doesn’t serve me well with American girls. It’s better I just hit and quit with them, enjoying the quick casual relationship while fantasizing about a “real” relationship with a women who is more suitable for type of thing.

Of course there are exceptions and not every American girl is permanently damaged for all eternity, but it seems a lot harder to find relationship prospects in the States than in South America. The odds are simply not in my favor. Going for a relationship with a girl who has had a few dozen large cocks before me just doesn’t make a lot of sense as I would be paying more for a product that has been at a heavy discount (or free) for so many years before. I could look for many years in America before finding something acceptable, whereby it would take a fraction of the time in a different country.

Bottom line is if she’s a whore then treat her like one so you’ll at least get yours instead of getting played in the process. And then the time will come where you meet a girl who is more needy with less cock experience. Sure she doesn’t talk like a porn star in bed but she’ll genuinely care about you and want to make you happy while overlooking your many flaws. Then you can slow it down and get to know her as a human being. But until you meet that girl, it’s in the best interests of your cock to get sex as fast as possible.

In my book Bang I give advice on how to get the notch quickly, with discussion on venue changing to the bedroom along with specific steps to get past ball-busting resistance. View sample pages here.

Here’s an Bang excerpt from page 56:

You may want to turn an attractive lady friend into a wingman. The female wingman is supposed to let other females know that you are accepted on this Earth by at least one woman. But we use her differently than a male wingman. While your buddy is by your side to talk to the girlfriends and absorb distractions, the female wingman is there to increase your social standing. When you enter a venue, you want to talk to your lady friend long enough for other girls to see. Make the interaction ambiguous by talking close and encouraging her to touch you from time to time. Then, go approach girls on your own, who will now be much more receptive to your game.

The purpose of the female wingman is just to increase the success rate of your approaches. While you can bring your lady friend along with you in the approach, I find that the girls tend to talk too much amongst themselves, severely limiting my ability to game. Don’t let a girl do the approach for you—approaching a girl you want to sleep with is your job and no one else’s.

I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a man properly use a female wingman. He thinks that because he has some social proof the girls will start coming up to him, or that the wingwoman will do all the work, but it rarely works out like that. What ends up happening is that he barely talks to other girls.

I will always recommend men use a male wingman before female ones, for two reasons. First, when you have a cute girl on your arm you get lazy and comfortable, probably because your hunger is tamed. Second, there’s a subconscious desire not to get rejected in front of other women (especially ones you know), so you’ll tend to only go for other girls who gave you a good signal like eye contact.

Unless your female wingman knows you play the numbers game to get sex, and that you do get rejected often, you’ll be much more hesitant to approach than if you were hanging out with another guy. While I do value the social proof that comes with hanging out with beautiful women, the female wingman is too overrated for guys who already have game. The benefit is marginal unless you know exactly what you’re doing.

In Bang I do give some additional tips on macking with a male wingman, including what to do in the unfortunate situation where you feel like your wingman is cockblocking you. Check out the Bang homepage to read more excerpts.

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Today’s Bang excerpt comes early on page 12:

The second reason I’m a fan of rejection is because it maximizes your results. The most uncomfortable rejection I can think of is the head-turn when you go in for a kiss. This usually leads to a very awkward moment, more so than when a girl blows you off during an approach. But now I believe the head-turn isn’t a bad rejection because it means you are not wasting kisses. If you never got rejected trying to kiss a girl, it means there are several girls you could have kissed but didn’t, only because you didn’t try. Rejection tells you that you are pushing to get all that you can. A man who doesn’t get rejected is one that is not reaching his true potential.

In 2002 I was introduced to this hot-as-balls girl from California, a “part-time model” who visited D.C. for only a couple weeks. I remember at the time I had a leather-bound journal which contained random drawings I made, some of them not half bad. I often carried it around with me to bars as a prop to pickup women. It was a good conversational piece for a guy who at the time didn’t have a lot to talk about besides Starcraft and microbiology.

The California girl was digging me and in the club we sat on a couch talking and touching. I was a little giddy that this game business was “working” on her (I was using borrowed routines from “Mystery’s Lounge,” long since closed) and decided to try out a line that some guy there said is gold when it comes to getting the kiss.

At the height of our sexual tension, instead of just going for it like I would today with the help of proximity cues, I said, “I want to whisper something to your lips.” She laughed hard in my face and didn’t stop for at least a full minute. I was bummed to say the least.

She stuck around though and we flirted some more, but I didn’t get the kiss.

Two days later the phone rings, and it’s her! She was going back to the California the next day and invited me to her aunt’s house somewhere in bumfuck Virginia. I sprayed on some Drakkar Noir, put on my going-out jeans, and headed over to her house, getting lost along the way and having to consult some maps in a 7-11.

I made it to her house and got to meet her aunt, who was a nice woman, and the girl and I watched some TV and talked. She had a cold though and didn’t want to grab a drink, but before she left I decided that I was going to try again anyway, since I didn’t have anything to lose. At the door of the house I went for the kiss, and she rejected me again. She gave me a hug though and we kept in touch for a couple months until things faded away.

At the time I didn’t know when a girl was “ready” to be kissed, so I just tried every single time as long as the girl didn’t mind my company. That year every girl who wanted to kiss me got kissed by me because I tried on all of them. I didn’t waste any kisses because I erased all preconceptions about when a girl wanted me to kiss her or not.

But now I’m experienced and what not and know when a girl is ready, so I don’t bother when a girl doesn’t want it, right?

Wrong!

Even when I know from vast personal experience that the girl doesn’t want to kiss me, I try anyway, especially on the first date. I know that by the end of the first date if I don’t get a kiss, I probably won’t bang her, so I go for it all the time. Sometimes I go in thinking, “Oh boy this isn’t going to work,” and sure enough it doesn’t. But I’m fine with that and because every girl who wants to get kissed by me will get kissed.

My kissing potential is at 100%, and who knows how many additional girls I’ve banged because I pushed when I wouldn’t otherwise from reading the “signs.” I’m pretty good at knowing the signs but I ignore them, or else I’d be playing it safe and cautious, something a man with burning desire rarely does. Get rejected as much as you can, in approaches and during closes, to achieve the most of what your current skill level can give you. If I’m not getting rejected, I know there’s girls I could be messing around with but am not. Plus I’m always surprised at girls I got intimate with that I thought wouldn’t be down for anything.

In Bang I talk more about getting over shyness and fear when it comes to doing approaches before sharing openers I recommend you use. Here’s an excerpt from an in-depth review of Bang in The Spearhead (by Ferdinand Bardamu’s ):

As a general rule, 90 to 95 percent of the pickup artist literature available today is garbage. Most of these clowns are snake oil salesmen hocking overpriced e-books and DVD box sets containing info you can just as easily find online for free. There are, however, a select few books on game that are worth buying, and Bang, Roosh’s entry into this expanding field, is one of them. If The Mystery Method is the Bible of seduction literature, Bang is the Paradise Lost, and is a title that anyone interested in improving their success with women should buy, post-haste.

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Merely from the standpoint of diction, Roosh’s book is miles ahead of its competitors. Anyone acquainted with the seduction community knows that it’s a swirling cauldron of nerdiness and weirdness, with its own vocabulary of “HB10s,” “IOIs”, and “neg hits.” Hell, the obnoxiously pretentious term “pickup artist” was invented so these geeks could pretend to set themselves apart from the rest of us grinders. In contrast, Roosh writes like a normal human being instead of a social retard. You won’t have to worry about coming across an undefined three-letter acronym every other page, necessitating a trip to the glossary and taking you out of the moment. He even refers to men who sleep with a lot of girls by the normal term: “player.” Solely in this regard, Bang is a much better read than almost all of the seduction literature on the market.

But if style is queen, then content is king, and Bang more then delivers in this regard. Roosh’s major innovation is the use of unscripted material in his game alongside standard canned material. For example, he introduces the concept of the “environmental opener,” which is a way of opening a girl with a line based on what’s happening in the surrounding environment. Additionally, he also writes on “conversational threads” as a way to hold a conversation with a girl that is both natural and holds her interest. The book is also rich with examples that allow you to contextualize the lessons. Given that scripted lines eventually become played out as dudes use them on chicks over and over, the ability to incorporate unscripted material into your game is a necessity if you want to stay on the circuit. If you’re having trouble in this department, you’d do well to pick up Bang for that reason alone.

Click here to learn more about Bang.

Here’s another excerpt from Bang:

You may have an initial resistance to using scripted material, but chances are you’re using them already. If you’ve ever told a story more than once, you are telling a routine, a conversational piece that you know your audience will positively respond to. If you’ve ever repeated an opinion of yours with the same backing evidence, you’ve told a routine. Openers and routines come together to form a conversation that girls enjoy. You are giving them what they want: fun vibes from an interesting guy.

The only problem with repeating the same thing over and over again is that you tend to go from telling to reciting—you begin to talk faster and limit eye contact while you stare off in space and speak from memory. As long as you keep your speech pace at a normal rate and maintain eye contact at all times, there is a very low probability that she will ever think you are using lines on her. And even if she does, as long as she is enjoying your company, she won’t care.

There’s not much more to be said about using routines as it’s something that men are usually comfortable implementing into their game. The only problem I see is that men tend to use too many routines, making them come across more like a social robot instead of a natural. It’s better to use only two great routines in a pick-up instead of six mediocre ones. Right now I use only one (detailed in Bang), with the rest being off-the-cuff or basic one-liners. In the book I also explain how to construct your own custom routines.

Here’s a new book review that was posted on the forum recently:

This is the only book you need on pickup. And that’s all that really needs to be said. But let me elaborate.

There’s lots of “useful” information on game out there. But I put “useful” in scare quotes, because it’s all moot if you aren’t making material progress toward your goal on a daily basis. Bang is different; it points you in the right direction, gives you a map, and shoves you — hard.

The book is short and to the point, clocking in at under 150 pages. You can breeze through it in an afternoon. Upon completion, you will know, without a doubt, how to approach girls, move them into your bedroom, and fuck them. The section on “The Vibe” alone justifies the eminently reasonable cost of the book.

Do you need anything else? No. And the beauty of the book is that it makes that fact abundantly clear.

I also like the fact that it’s designed as a starting point, and not a destination. By this I mean that every other program I encountered touts mastery of the espoused methodology as the target. Bang is explicitly different. It’s a foundation, upon which you’re encouraged to build your own seductive edifice.

In fact, Bang opens up by describing the concept of “gameless game,” the state where you don’t even realize what you’re doing anymore — you’re just being yourself, and that gets you laid. I can’t think of a better end game; nor can I think of anything that will help you achieve that state faster than Bang. I have no greater praise than this.

Downsides? Only this: I hope there’s a second edition with better proof reading. There’s nothing that obscures meaning, but there are enough unsightly errors of spelling and grammar to merit mention.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a lot of approaching to do.

Check out the Bang homepage to find out how to grab your copy.

The following excerpt from Bang discusses the middle ground between compliments and insults…

The opposite of a compliment is an insult, something you should also avoid. If you had a linear scale with a compliment on one end being a 1 and an insult on the other end being a 10, some of the material you’ve read so far reach into the 6 range. Their purpose is to let a girl know that you are not impressed with her, even if below the surface you really are. The more you show her you’re impressed, the more likely she will perceive her value as being too high for you. Sex withholding follows as a result.

While saying “You’re too old for me” may seem like an insult on the surface, it is taken as a joke when you have already established a fun and playful vibe. Context here is important: if you were talking about something boring like politics all night and then all of a sudden you tell her she’s too old for you, she will get offended. But if you were already joking around with her for a while, she’ll know that it’s just a part of your personality.

Regardless, some girls will get insulted by your humor and think, “Who does this guy think he is?” While I don’t apologize to any girl who takes my humor wrong, I definitely don’t continue to push her buttons once she is already upset. To me her annoyance is either a sign of incompatibility or a bad line on my part. Did I accidentally say the wrong thing or did she get offended at a line that girls normally respond well to? I make a judgment call if this interaction can be saved or if there is another girl around that my time could be better spent with. Because trying to convince her that you were joking is a form of beta male supplication, it’s best to move on if your material is poorly received. The goal of material in the middle of our compliment-insult scale is to make her aware of her own faults instead of yours. Once the focus is taken off you, she will be much more susceptible to game.

The last two sentences are very important. Solid game makes the girl look inward to her own faults or lacks. Your backhanded compliments and teasing takes the focus off your uneven chin, odd mannerisms, and balding scalp. If you have a rather large deformity then your game has to be that much more potent to compensate for the flaw.

Unfortunately you can’t just go around insulting girls, which is what a lot of guys do after they read books like The Game, where the “neg” was heavily featured. You can study negs all day and night but you’ll still fuck it up every time with the wrong tone or body language. It’s better to avoid its use until you get to an advanced Matrix-like level of game, but by then you probably won’t even need to use them. Focus on material on the “6 range” like I explain above. I give tons of examples in my book.

Speaking of my book, here’s a recent email I received about it…

How’s it going man? I recently put together enough money to buy Bang and I have to say it was not only worth every penny, but more. I don’t usually say shit like this (especially about things I have to pay for). I bought David DeAngelo’s DoubleYourDating eBook a few years back and I have to say that Bang BLEW IT AWAY. You can use this as a testimonial if you want. Oh, I have also read Swingcatt’s eBook and I not only had more laughs and a better time reading Bang, but I found it more useful and my game is doing so much better. I like your approach to the field, you put things simply in a way that I can understand. However, you use advanced tactics like DeAngelo and Swingcatt, but explain it on a step by step basis with examples to real life events and situations. I can’t thank you enough.

If you haven’t yet bought Bang, check out its homepage, read a couple sample pages, then buy it. Thanks.

Continuing on the kiss theme, here’s an excerpt from Bang:

Don’t overdo the kiss. She may interpret your desire to constantly kiss her as neediness. You always want to leave her wanting more by stopping short right before you think she is get-ting satisfied. If on a first date I kiss a girl for say a total of five minutes, I’d rather do it in five one-minute bursts than one five-minute session. After you pull back from the first kiss of the date (it will always be you that pulls back from kisses first), wait a good 10 minutes before you go back in again to show her that kissing is not a big deal, and resume conversation like nothing major happened. Re-entry is best when another natural silence in the conversation takes place. Feel free to throw in a couple fake-outs where you get really close like she thinks you are going to kiss her again but you pull back and continue conversation. Be unpredictable about when you end kisses—sometimes you go in for a minute, sometimes two minutes, and sometimes only twenty seconds. Save the extended make-outs for when you get her in a bedroom. You want to tease her—blue-balling yourself in the short term—to turn her on so much that she doesn’t resist when you escalate in the bedroom.

Here’s all you need to know about kissing girls:

Less is more.

Less is more.

Less is more.

You’re not in college anymore. There is no reason to open your mouth wide enough that a kittens head can fit into it and then go crazy. Unless the girl is drunk (or Brazilian), she will not enjoy it.

If you spy on dates you see two kinds of guys. The guys who don’t give a fuck, where the girl keeps coming into him, and the guys who try to kiss the girl at every instant he gets, like he’s scared she’s going to walk out on him if he doesn’t release his tentacle grasp upon her. Which guy is going to get his dick sucked hard by the end of the night?

For about the first two dates, you will be trying to kiss her more than she kisses you. But by date three, once her attraction for you is hopefully cemented, it should be the other way around. She should be on you like a wet rag, kissing you to claim her territory in front of other girls. But if you’re trying to claim her as territory, then your hold on her is weak and she will soon get tired of you because you are needy and desperate. Also, you’re leaving a trail of drool flowing down on her chin. Might want to get that with a napkin.

I recently updated the Bang homepage with 10 new sample pages that you probably haven’t read before, including tips from approaching to sealing the deal.