Roosh V

Excerpt from Bang:

Some productivity experts recommend you attach a deadline to your goal. For example: “I am going to sleep with a mother and daughter team within six months.” I don’t advise doing this because the game is so unpredictable and quirky that time goals can be discouraging during the inevitable cold streak. As you gain skill, there will be periods where you sleep with multiple girls in a short amount of time, followed by nothing for several months.

When I was a full-time student of the game, I went to great lengths to get out of a cold streak. I would pull out a piece of paper, write a short-term goal, and make a bulleted list of all the things I should do and try to get out of it. The goal was usually set a month from when I started to write down this list. The sad part: I never achieved the goal within the deadline, and stopped making lists.

It took myself years later to realize what happened. During the goal month I experimented a lot with a shotgun strategy, trying to hit something that can get me out of the cold streak. I was learning instead of succeeding. Once the month was over and I was disappointed with the results, I put my list away and then unconsciously only did things that worked well. Then I hit.

At least once a month I go out and spit the craziest and weirdest shit I can think of. I remember one time I got out a scrap piece of paper and pretended I was reading simple lines like “Hi. How are you. What is your name?” Then the girl would peek at the paper and see a stick-figure drawing of me and a cat. And she would give me this look like “Who are you?” I don’t do this to get laid but to learn how girls respond to things and where the limits are. Learning and success go hand in hand, but they don’t always happen at the same time.

Girls and monogamy-included men really hate the methodical approach to game where you set goals in the form of vaginas and write down notes or ideas to accomplish them. I’ll admit it is a little weird, and it’s not something I’d tell to people who aren’t doing what I’m doing, but it works.



From Bang:

You’ll notice I gave a way to start the date without accounting for whether you kissed her or not in your previous encounter. That’s because even if you did kiss her beforehand, you can’t just greet her with your tongue—you have to “start over” again and rebuild the energy from the last time you saw her. It’s like re-priming a pump. When it comes to the first date, the only difference that prior kissing makes is towards the end of the date, when you are most likely to get farther.

How important is it to kiss a girl when you first meet her? There are a couple ways of looking at it. The first: Does kissing a girl increase the likelihood of her returning my first call? From my experience and that of my friends, it seems to make no difference. That’s because kissing is really not a big deal in this culture, where girls will kiss a guy just because she is intoxicated and her friend is already hooked up with another guy. (But in Argentina, for example, the kiss is a big deal and probably would increase chances of a return call).


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The fast kiss actually does two things: (1) it keeps you on task and (2) it makes the first date a lot more exciting. When you’re talking to a girl and your goal is something vague like “build attraction,” what happens is you may overdo things like humor for the sake of being interesting and miss an opportunity. Instead of thinking of how ready she is to receive your mouth, you are wondering what your next awesome conversational piece will be. But if your goal is to kiss her, you will do just enough humor or teasing or conversation until you get those subtle signs to progress things by touching and glancing at her lips instead of talking. You should be getting the kiss under the two hour mark, but 45-60 minutes is more ideal. (If your mind is saying “That’s crazy!” then you need to work either on your game or venue selection.)

If you don’t kiss her when you first meet, the most you will probably get on the first date is a makeout. Since it’s difficult to get the makeout out of the way early in the date, you have to wait until the end, and by then she will most likely not be prepared for doing much more. But if you did kiss her when you first meet, she is far more open to going past that. She is going on a date with a guy she already kissed because she wants to do more. I don’t think I had sex with any girl on the first date that I didn’t kiss beforehand.

PS. I’m calling in to Bobby and Mike’s radio show tonight around 7PM. Listen online or tune in to 90.3 FM if you’re in north Jersey. I’m going to talk about Brazilian girls and Bang.


The following exerpt is from my book Bang.

A girl has made up her mind on whether she is going to call you back before you even pick up the phone. There is no message in the world that will make the girl call you back when she already decided not to, but there are messages you can leave which can change her mind and stop her from calling you back. In the case of voice messages, boring is better. Our simple voice message avoids the pitfalls of a typical bad message, like the previously mentioned joke or story drop and also self-descriptions that insinuate you are forgettable. Bad message example: “Hey it’s Steve, from Friday night at the bar, with the striped shirt, just calling to say….” If she gave you her number she is already interested to you (or was at the moment she gave it). Until you see her again in person you can only do more to harm than help.


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Once you leave a message, put your phone down and go occupy your mind with something else. You’re expecting a call, not waiting for one. Get on with your life and don’t worry about if your phone has a strong enough signal or if your ringer is loud enough for you to hear it. If you are doing things that you wouldn’t do if you were expecting a buddy of yours to return a call, then you need to take a step back by turning off your ringer and hiding your phone until the next morning. You give too much power to the girl if you eagerly await her call.

Phone game is important, but it’s one of the only areas of the game where simply being capable is enough. The phone is just a bridge to continuing the interaction, not intensifying it. If you keep that frame in mind you will talk to girls like you would talk to a friend: relaxed, fun, and brief. There is a band-aid to bad phone game in the form of text messaging (it used to be e-mail), but you’ll have to get her on the phone eventually so you might as well get it straightened out starting now. Bang has several pages on how to work the phone. You can learn more about what’s inside the book here.

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Via The Boston Bachelor:

Bang is a dense but informative read, full of advice even the most weathered Casanovas and “pick-up artists” can appreciate. The book wastes no time in breaking things down bit-by-bit from the approach to the date to the bedroom. For those of you who are more familiar with the whole “pick-up community,” Bang strikes a good balance between the structured, sequential “Mystery Method” and the more free-flowing “Charisma Arts.”

If there’s one chapter that stands out more than others, it’s the one titled “Late Game,” which breaks down the step-by-step (or article of clothing-by-article of clothing) journey from the end of the date to the end of the orgasm. The chapter titled “Internal Game” is another highlight, as it discusses the most powerful sexual magnet of all–the human mind. The odds-and-ends Appendix also serves up a great variety of tidbits, from approaching girls in cars to dealing with girls who suck (in a bad way) in the sack. I do wish that more specifics on body language and its importance were presented in the book–a minor complaint, all in all.

You can read the whole thing here.


On Monday the 200th copy of Bang was sold. The positive response has given me the encouragement to write a sequel in 10 years called “Advanced Bang.” I rarely buy books without browsing through them at the bookstore so it means a lot when someone buys my book sight mostly unseen. That’s trust! Here are two more reviews…

From Roissy:

So when I read Bang I already understood not only the concepts of pickup from meet to bedroom, but many of the specific openers, qualification tactics, and conversational routines, and have spent many nights out applying those lessons and improving my skills. But after reading it, I was surprised to find that Roosh has brought a welcome dimension to the study of game — elegant simplicity and clear-headedness, as well as some new tactics I was previously unaware of. This slim but powerfully condensed book lays out the foundations of game — from female psychology to the winning male attitude to the sequence of pickup from approach to sex — in a concise, detailed, and readily-accessible manner that can get any guy on the ground and running right away without spending weeks of time and thousands of dollars on a vast library of pickup material. The occasional flashes of droll humor also make it an entertaining read.

From CurledUp.com:

This book is exactly what it says it is: A dating guide for someone who only wants to shag chicks without commitment. (Thus the title, don’t let its simplicity confuse you like it did for me with the musical Rent.) Those of you who are looking to live this lifestyle and would like another viewpoint on how to do so, or else need a bit of help being the best player you can be, this book is for you.

Thanks to everyone who has bought it so far.


Two emails about Bang

I was very impressed by how funny Bang was while still reading like a practical–even technical–pick up guide.

I especially liked your courage when speaking to the more shady parts of the game. The [getting inside her place] section featured one of your best lines: […] I also liked your STD argument: […] You could have copped out in the Double Your Dating “you can be a nice guy and still a player” way but instead you gave it to the reader straight.

I’ve gotten a couple positive comments about the deadpan joke on page 109. And…

Roosh, just wanted to let you know I got the book a couple of days ago. I’m currently reading it and I’m halfway through. I’m certainly no slouch when it comes to the ladies, but if I had come across a book like this back when I was in college…

A lot of the things in there took me many years to learn. I’m saving this one for my kid and handing it to him the first time he gets his heart broken.

In other news, tonight there is a happy hour. Based on the venue, looks like it will be nice and sloppy.


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Hi Roosh-

I’ve finished it and I think it’s incredible. I really wish I would have had this book twenty years ago.

I did purchase Stephen Nash’s ebook and it basically sucked. It was good material, don’t get me wrong. It should have been titled “how to get a life”, but I don’t guess he would have sold very many copies. Doing what he says won’t necessarily get you a GF, I’m living proof of that. Oh and you’re book was 1/2 the price of Nash’s and 5 times longer. Figure that one out?

None of the other material that I’ve read or have come across went into what to do once you get in the bedroom. Every guru so far (unless it is a sex only book like the sex god method) has skipped over this. Something tells me that’s because they weren’t too good at it or didn’t want to give away their secrets for fear that some other guy would get better than them. But not you, you’re not concerned. Awesome! That’s the way a teacher should be.

I like the straightforward manner with which you lay out how to progress. It’s something that I’ve needed to read. I’m the type that always needs a roadmap. Once I’ve gone down the road, I can invent new ways to do it. Ha ha. I like that you put away with the notion that one has to be very well dressed to accomplish anything. This is probably true in a trendy LA nightclub, but not here in […]. Clothes or shoes don’t do crap. I should know, I’ve spent lots of dollars on my wardrobe and I don’t notice any difference in my game or a woman’s level of interest (more or less or more or less women interested).

I guess the best praise I can come up with is that this book should be required reading for every 17 year old guy!!

I don’t have many gripes about the book. The length was OK. Sure I’d like to have a seduction book that was a combo of your book, Green’s art of seduction, the mystery method, sex god method, selfish gene, etc…something near the length of atlas shrugged. But really, who wants to write that? ha ha. So, the length was fine, there is plenty of supplimental information on the web and if one uses what you teach, one can learn on the fly. I would have liked to see you expand on how to approach in different venues or how to approach married women (direct vs. indirect). I know, what I’m asking can be learned in the field, but it’s always fun reading about this. I also wouldn’t have minded reading field reports or some of your best lines/ deliveries/ responses and why they were so good. […]

One thing I do want to disagree with you on is the gym. It’s the hardest place ever to meet/ attract attractive women. Wow, a courtroom isn’t even this tough and I have tried :) […]

Thanks!


A Grandiose Blog is giving away a signed copy of the book. Read about it here.

Bang is Roosh V’s debut hilarious, intelligent and very blunt manual/book/how-to/self-bio/guide on the art of getting laid. A scientist by day and a playboy Alpha male at night, Bang is the culmination of the personal dating experiences of Roosh and you won’t be able to put it down once you start.

Excellent.


I walk to the Starbucks near my Dad’s house at least six days a week. I’ve gotten to know most of the baristas there and they’ve gotten to know me as the laptop guy who wakes up really late. One of the baristas is a 19-year-old college student who is like the somewhat legal drinking age brother I’ll never have. He’s chatty, outgoing, and likes having casual sex with girls, so I figure he’d like Bang. I gave him a copy because I want to turn him into an unstoppable player force. He emailed me the other day:

ROOSH, can i just first and foremost say, I started reading ur book and it is fucking AMAZING. Seriously its as helpful as it is HILARIOUS. Its so good that I have been reading it to all my friends and family as they come into the room. I carry it around everywhere in my backpack when i go out and its still in it’s original bag… i value it so much lol. I’ve been jumping around the book because i cannot control my excited little self as i read the book, my eyes cannot help but wonder to other pages. I was thinking to myself, “Shit, i am going to read this book slowly and savor this work of art masterpiece so it will last longer. i am going to be disappointed when i stop reading.”

See the positive effect I have on today’s youth? :thumbup:

A second review comes from Mike Forster. He adds a professional touch by using my last name.

[Roosh] attacks the female psyche like a scientist, using the scientific method to try hundreds of possible moves on his way to developing his plan for success for even the most acne-clad Dungeons and Dragons fans out there. He has clearly spent his entire adult life honing his “game,” and the reader is the beneficiary with this excellent book. He uses metaphors and relatable analogies to make all his points crystal clear, outlining what should be the obvious, but for many helpless guys passes as new material. His frank talk about sex is refreshing and well-needed in a society in which openness about any sort of sexual activity or desires is censored from the public discourse. The book is also funny at times, with my particular favorite moment being his analogy that if a girl resists one of your moves in the bedroom, act like your character just died in a video game and simply hit the “restart” button.

Thanks Mike!

A little later he complained that the book could have been longer. I’ve heard this from a couple people and I think it could be because the page count doesn’t account for the large page size and small text. Or maybe it’s a fast read because my writing is just so buttery smooth. :surprised:


Bang is back after being unavailable on Lulu for about 36 hours starting on Sunday night. If you were waiting to buy it, grab it here.


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