Here is a grocery store excerpt from Day Bang…
Approach a girl while she’s shopping, timing your movements to intersect either in an aisle or at some point around the perimeter. Just make sure to catch her before the checkout line, and preferably before she reaches the frozen foods section.
[Another] option is to plant yourself in a popular section (wine and cheese, produce, or bakery), hang out there for at least ten minutes, and approach girls who come within your tentacle grasp. As long as you’re slow in your movements and browse on your way to any girl, you won’t raise their guards. Also, don’t worry about what the staff thinks of your activities, in the grocery store or anywhere else. At nearly all establishments, especially corporate chains, staff members are instructed not to bother the customers.
While you should take your time moving through the store, you must act fast when you see a girl you like. Most girls have a shopping list and grab their items with the goal to get out quickly. They won’t wait all day for you to approach. In retail stores, girls are in browse mode, so you can take more time planning your approach angle, but in grocery stores girls know exactly what they want and won’t linger long, unless they happen to be making a complicated recipe. Therefore step up your hustle after you’ve identified a target.
In Europe, the grocery store has replaced the coffee shop as my favorite day game venue. Because the coffee shop culture there encourages social interaction with friends instead of going alone with a book or laptop, the most consistent place I find girls alone is the grocery store. Another bonus is that since they are focused on buying items, she won’t be on the phone or have on headphones.
The game I would run in foreign grocery stores is different than at home. In America, I quickly zero in on something in her basket and ask if it is good or not. The issue with this opener is that you don’t have time to leisurely check out the girl and then examine her basket—you have to be staring mostly at her items and quickly open when your paths intersect. You will approach girls who, upon closer inspection, may not be that good looking, but thankfully with indirect openers you can bow out immediately after she gives an answer by ceasing all ramble. You never have to commit yourself for more than 15 seconds.
Things become much easier when you’re a tourist. I’ve tried a lot of different openers and found one so easy that it feels like cheating. When you walk into a foreign grocery store, get a basket and walk straight to the bread aisle. Grab a wheat loaf. Then with that loaf prominently displayed either in your hand or on the top of your basket, do your shopping as usual. Put a confused look on your face and open with this: “Excuse me, do you know what type of bread this is?” You can use it on girls no matter where they are in the grocery store.
Here’s a common way the conversation turns out:
Girl: “It’s wheat bread.”
You: “I see. It was hard to tell because I don’t speak the Finnish language. Is this a good kind of bread?”
Girl: “I’ve never tried it before.”
You: “There were just so many options that I didn’t know which one to choose. Which bread do you recommend?”
Girl: “Have you tried the dark bread? It’s very common here.” At this point there’s a good chance she’ll walk you over to the bread aisle to show you her favorite bread.
You: “Interesting, I’ve never tried this bread before. What does it taste like?”
Girl: “It tastes like so and so.”
You: “Do you usually eat it with a spread or with lunch meats?”
Girl: “Lunch meats?”
You: “I mean deli meats like ham.” You can explain the etymology of the term ‘lunch meats’ and how people from ‘other places’ eat lunch.
Girl: “I eat it like so and so.”
You: “Cool, because where I come from we don’t have a lot of breads. It’s much easier to pick.”
If she has any interest in you at this point, she will ask you where you’re from and the chat gradually becomes more personal.
The above is classic elderly game that works a little too well when the girl is even mildly curious, especially in Europe. After she bites on your “where I come from” bait, you can move onto nightlife or restaurant recommendations and then hit her with “Where do you usually hang out?” before getting the number. If she doesn’t bite but continues to chat, you will keep dropping “where I come from” bait until she bites. There have been times where I had to drop it four times before the girl bit. (If you’re running game in your home city, you’ll have to mix up the bait drops.)
If the above sounds easy to you, that’s because it is. I’ve gotten used to leveraging my stupid tourist status in foreign countries to make these types of easy openers, to the point where it doesn’t even feel like an approach. On the other hand, American girls are much more conversational during the day, and running coffee shop game there is the easiest out of anywhere in the world. There are some disadvantages to European day game but since the quality is so much higher, I don’t really miss my coffee shop time back in the States.
For those of you who are envious about me running easy day openers abroad like “What type of bread is this?” or “What time does this place close?” then I have a solution for you: become a foreigner. The best day game is foreign day game.
The above grocery store article is 980 words. My day game book, Day Bang, is 75,000 words, with nine pages alone on grocery store approaching with an additional 191 pages that teach you how to approach, ramble, drop big bait, and close. If you want to learn how to effectively pick up women during the day, click here to learn more about my book.
1. Consider another venue. Yes, the first step to picking up on the street is asking yourself why you want to pick up on the street. It’s the hardest venue, hands down, meaning every other day venue you can imagine is easier. Is there a mall or retail shop nearby? Coffee shop? Grocery store? Hell, even a Walmart will be easier. Street game will be the first venue you want to try, though it really should be the last because of its difficulty level. The only time it’s “easy” is when you’re in a foreign country and can act like a confused tourist.
2. Research a good spot. For most cities, the best time to do day approaches are Saturday afternoons. In college towns it’s the opposite where weekday afternoons are superior. Use your eyes to determine when you usually see lone women walking around. Pick a street or park that has at least one cute woman walking by every five minutes or so. You don’t want dense squares that are jam packed with people, because the force of the crowd will make a conversation uncomfortable for her. Once you find a good spot, camp out in a discreet area and wait for an attractive women to walk by. This method is far easier than walking around aimlessly in the hopes of finding women. Find a good spot in your city and master it.
3. When a cute girl walks by, follow her until she hits a Don’t Walk signal. This may take a few blocks of stalking. The logic behind this method, especially for you day game newbs, is to talk to girls who are already stopped because it has a higher chance of leading to conversation than trying to stop them while in movement. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to stop girls, but it will be harder, especially if she’s walking fast. If you’re smart, you’ll choose to spit “lazy street game” by finding a bench next to a sidewalk. In that case just open her as she walks by while you’re seated enjoying a Big Gulp. This is my preferred method for both the street and mall.
4. Ask her where you can find a pet shop. I’ve tried a couple dozen of street openers and this one is the best. It’s weird, different, and takes some brainpower to answer, forcing the girl to snap out of whatever she’s thinking about to digest your question. Most often the girl will say “No, sorry.” This is when you step up to the plate and unleash mountains of ramble.
5. Ramble until you can ramble no more. Tell her how hard it is to find a pet shop. Give her a reason why you’re looking for one (to buy some fish, a cat, or a dog). Give a reason why you asked her instead of someone else (“you look like an animal person”). For two tough minutes, you will be talking about nothing but pets and pet stores, making it up as you go along, warming up the girl in the process for a more personal chat. Pet ramble is necessary to get her into a social mood where she is more likely to show interest in what comes next.
6. Drop big bait. Your first big bait will be, “When I was in blah, it was easy to find pet shops. But here it’s very difficult.” If she doesn’t mind that statement, give off another sentence or two about the place you were in and how it’s different. Make general comparisons between cities and use what she gives you to continue the conversation. If you’re a foreigner, mention how you “just moved” to the city and are trying to “learn the local culture.”
7. If you stall, hit her with the “don’t seem like” line. I guarantee you will stall because on the street girls don’t give you much to work with. If you hit a speed bump after two minutes of pet shop conversation and after dropping your first piece of big bait, say, “By the way, you don’t seem like you’re from here.” Now you can “guess” where she’s from based on something she’s wearing, her accent, or the style of her hair. Does she ask you where your from, or at least show some interest? Great, then go from there. But after all this if she doesn’t help you with the conversation, then she’ll probably end it soon.
8. Get her number. If you successfully got out of pet shop talk, she’s standing there with a half-smile on her face, and she asked you a personal question, you’re in the clear to get her number. Exchange information like age and name, ask her where she usually hangs out, then suggest a drink meetup. While you can get a street number after only five minutes, you want to push towards at least 10 minutes if you want a date out of it. This means approaching girls who are at least walking slow and in no rush to get anywhere. If she’s really into you, tell her you were about to grab a smoothie and if she wants to join you.
I don’t bother with street game unless I’m in a foreign country, where it’s ten times easier to pick up due to my shockingly confused foreigner status, but it’s possible your home city may not have many day options besides street game. In that case, do chunks of at least five street approaches at a time. The difficulty of this approach means you will definitely need a one or two approach warm-up until the ramble starts flowing. No man is born with the ability to ramble about pets and pet stores. If I don’t do a pet store opener in a couple weeks, my ramble on the first approach is horrid even though I’ve done this a million times.
The joy of this opener comes after you fuck a girl when she asks you, “So, were you really looking for a pet store?” Once I even had a girl say, “My mom doesn’t think you were really shopping for a kitten.” The fact that she will tell everyone about your unique pet store approach keeps you on her mind and increases the chances she will go out with you on a first date. Your approach can actually be a great conversation topic on the date since you can “update” her on your pet search status.
The above street game article was 1,100 words. My day game book, Day Bang, is 75,000 words, with 18 pages alone on street approaching with an additional 183 pages that teach you how to approach, ramble, drop big bait, and close. If you want to learn how to effectively pick up women during the day, click here to learn more about my book.
1. Go to crowded coffee shops. Your best bet is to visit coffee shops so crowded that all tables are taken. Find the cutest girl in the room and ask if you can share her table. If there isn’t a crowded coffee shop near you, sit at a table where a lot of people have to pass by on their way out.
2. Bring an interesting prop that helps with conversation. Even when I’m working on my laptop, I carry an interesting book (or e-reader) that I can use if a conversation develops. It’s even better if you bring a prop related to one of your hobbies, which allows you to easily display value. For example, if you travel a lot, wear a scarf that you bought abroad. If you’re a chef at a restaurant, have a “draft” menu lying on the table. If you’re a tango dancer, have a picture of you doing a complicated move as the background to your laptop screen.
3. Camp out. Coffee shops are peculiar in that you need to stay a while until opportunities present themselves. It’s not like a club where you go inside, check out the talent, and then immediately leave if you don’t see anything you like. Even in crowded coffee shops, it’s unlikely you’ll be able to do more than two approaches per hour.
4. Come up with “elderly” openers related to what she’s doing. Is she reading a book? Ask her if the book is good. Is she working on a laptop? Ask her if the laptop is a good model. Is she reading a research paper? Ask her if it’s interesting. Keep it easier on yourself by focusing on props that you can talk about. This makes your approach more natural. A reason why coffee shops are so easy to approach is that girls always have props (even if she’s playing a game on her cell phone, your opener can be if it’s a fun game or not).
5. Do the approach. Simply say “Excuse me” and then ask a question related to her prop. If the girl is not seated near you, you’ll have to say it as she walks by your table or when you walk by hers (on the way to the bathroom, for example). Sample opener: “Excuse me, you seem really into your book. Is it a good book?” This simple line will open her over 80% of the time.
6. Talk about the prop you opened with. If you asked her about a pen she’s writing with, and then 30 seconds later you ask where she’s from, the girl will feel like you’re “hitting” on her and then clam up. Instead, talk about the initial prop for at least two minutes until moving onto more personal topics. This is called “elderly chat.” You know its elderly when you can have the same conversation with a guy and he won’t think you’re gay. It should be neutral and non-sexual without asking personal questions (she can ask personal questions early on, but not you).
7. Drop big bait. The hardest part of a day pickup is getting out of elderly chat and dropping enough value where the girl feels compelled to learn more about you. Big bait is a statement that hints towards something interesting you’re doing or have done. For example, if I’m in a coffee shop talking about coffee with a girl, I can say something like, “When I was in Italy, the coffee was so rich and smooth that I didn’t have to put much sugar. I really wish I could find a coffee shop like that here.” If she’s curious, she’ll make a comment about Italy or travel. If she likes you, she’ll outright ask about your trip. Sometimes it takes three or more of these big bait drops until a girl asks you a personal question.
8. Move into a personal chat. After she asks you a personal question (it can be as simple as “What is your name?” or “What do you do?”), you now have enough to at least get a number. Make the conversation more playful by wondering if she’s half-German. Ask for her age. Find out where she lives (for date logistics). Give opinions and comments about her answers without teasing or insulting her. Understand that girls can’t handle cockiness during the day like they can at night.
9. Get her number. If she’s reciprocating with the personal chat by asking you questions in response to yours, it’s time to get her number. The most seamless way to do is to ask where she usually hangs out. After her answer, ask if she wants to hang out with you for a drink. If you got this far, she will almost always give you the digits.
One problem you’ll face is numbers that don’t go anywhere. The easiest way to fix that is to prolong your conversations to a minimum of 15 minutes. While you can get a number after only a few minutes, those are unlikely to lead to a date. During the day, longer conversations are better.
In conclusion, open on a neutral prop that you talk about for at least two minutes. Drop big bait until she asks a personal question, then get to know her with both playful and serious questions. Finally, get her number. Easy, right?
The above coffee shop article was 890 words. My day game book, Day Bang, is 75,000 words, with 26 pages alone on coffee shop approaching and an additional 68 pages on approaching, conversing, dropping big bait, and closing. If you want more details on how to pick up women during the day, click here to learn more about my book.
I’m again teaching workshops in Washington DC, which will run four hours in length and teach men how to approach and talk to women in both day and nighttime settings. Outcomes that will be taught include getting a phone number, kiss, venue change (i.e. instant date), same-night date, and one-night stand.
The daytime workshops, which will take place on Friday and Saturday afternoons, will focus on how to meet women in coffee shops, bookstores, on public transportation, in grocery stores, retail stores, and on the street. The night workshops, which will take place on Friday and Saturday nights, will teach you how to meet women in bars and clubs.
During both workshops, you will:
- receive a comprehensive manual containing more than two dozen effective openers and follow-ups that will allow you to approach women anywhere
- practice the material on approximately ten girls who meet your quality standards (no fatties)
- learn techniques to get numbers, dates, and one-night stands
- get detailed written and verbal feedback on your game, from your body language and mannerisms to your conversational content and closing technique, which will serve as a blueprint for your immediate improvement
- be able to tap the brain of a man who has slept with a boatload of women in locations around the world and has dedicated nearly a decade of his life to penetrating women as quickly as possible—with the least amount of effort
I urge you to read on even if you’re familiar with my old workshops because I’ve revamped the program by adding new methods and technology.
Nearly two years ago I began teaching eight-hour game workshops in DC, which included both lecture and fieldwork of approaching girls in coffee shops, retail stores, grocery stores, the subway, and on the street. Within the next few months I taught thirty-two men and provided feedback on 416 of their approaches during nearly 150 hours of workshop time. These men were white, black, Asian, Indian, Latino, and Persian, with ages ranging from 21 to 54. I received positive feedback from thirty of these men, and neutral feedback from two.
Though I considered the workshops a huge success, I discontinued them in South America (though I did conduct one in Medellin). I don’t mean to sound like a wuss, but teaching them was the hardest job I’ve ever had in my life, more so than being a teenage janitor at a bagel shop, a DJ, a bartender, or a microbiologist. Each workshop involved several hours of nonstop talking, movement, and thinking. At the end of each one I was exhausted, but pleased at being able to provide a service that men valued. It’s a job I can only perform during occasional bursts of inspiration and energy.
Improvements & Innovations
I’ve been back in America for four months, and during that time I’ve been thinking about how to improve the workshops based on my own observations and feedback I’ve received from students. I came up with seven improvements, including two innovations that aren’t being used by any other game instructor.
Elimination Of Long-Form Lecture:
This was the biggest complaint from students. Many were bored having to sit in the same chair for hours as we worked our way through the workshop manual, and I couldn’t blame them. Essentially, they were paying money to have me read to them. If you look at commercial “boot camps,” you’ll see that their structure includes more than a dozen hours of sitting in a classroom listening to a good-looking actor talk about game—with much less time spent on making actual approaches. Adult men can read the material on their own—they attend workshops to learn how to do it live and to be critiqued on their technique.
Expanded Workshop Manual:
In order to eliminate the lecture, I have beefed up the workshop manual so that it can stand alone. To do that, the word count has increased by some 300% and I’ve revised it to make it more clear and concise (even having it professionally copyedited). In essence, the manual is now an Early Game book, packed with openers, follow-ups, and details of the when, how, and where to use them. You’ll receive the manual via email a few days before the workshop so you can read and study on your own. That way, you’ll be able to come to the workshop with a fair understanding of the game you’re going to run. Along with a brief introduction, we’ll spend 10-15 minutes before each venue reviewing and rehearsing the lines before you go into action. We’ll also do a couple fun social exercises to get you thinking in the right direction.
Addition Of Night Game Instruction:
Due to numerous suggestions, I’ve decided to also teach night game. You’ll have the option to do either a day or night workshop—or both at a discounted price. (If you do both, I recommend taking them on separate days so you don’t overload your brain.) The workshop manual now addresses nighttime approach logistics and includes six openers you can use exclusively in bar or club environments. Regardless of what workshop you take, you’ll receive the complete manual, featuring both day and night game techniques. This way you can see one part in action while working on the other on your own time. For example, if you mostly run night game now but are thinking about running day game in the future, you can take a night game workshop and have the day game material in reserve for when you’re ready to get started.
Optimized Game Material:
My day game material has been time-tested and put through the ringer with hundreds of approaches, thanks in part to my students. This has allowed me to optimize the openers and follow-ups to have greater effectiveness. If there was a line that students had trouble with, I took a long look at it, even using basic statistical analysis to aid in the process. The bottom line is the game you’ll learn has proved its worth and will offer you the highest chance for successfully approaching any woman—day or night. In the manual I also share some new bar lines that I’ve developed in the past year, which I haven’t published anywhere else.
1-on-1 Workshop Option:
Some men prefer to learn individually and do more approaches than a 2-on-1 session, so for this round you’ll have the option of attending solo workshops. In the 1-on-1 workshop you’ll be able to approach more, get more individual attention, and see me make more demonstrations. With two guys, there are fewer chances for me to demonstrate various approach techniques without taking away opportunities from students. (And as you may know, DC doesn’t have a huge pool of cute women to choose from.)
And now for the workshop innovations:
Custom Post-Workshop Report:
A few days after you take the workshop, you’ll receive a PDF file evaluating every approach you made during the workshop, with straight-forward critiques on what you did right and wrong. Of course I’ll give you plenty of tips during the workshop, but I believe that having a report you can reread will serve as a better reminder of how you can improve your game. This means that I’ll be furiously taking notes in the corner while you talk to women.
The report will also contain a section titled Things That Are Holding You Back, in which I’ll explain what is stopping you from banging lots of girls. In past workshops, I tried to be as gentle as possible, but this time I’ll make suggestions that may wound your ego a bit, with the sole intention of improving your game. For example if I think your style is off for the girls you’re trying to get with, I’ll tell you. After all, you’re paying me to make a positive difference in your life, not to coddle you. Also if I know a good venue in DC that fits your swag, I’ll suggest it. The report will serve as a blueprint for your improvement in the next 6-12 months, and will take me approximately one hour to create for each student.
Secret Service Style Two-Way Communication Radios (Day Only):
In past workshops I wasn’t always able to hear everything students said, especially if I wasn’t standing right next to them. Later I would ask them to replay conversations for me, but they weren’t able to remember all the details, some of which may be subtle but important. With the radios, I’ll hear most of what you say and be able to offer more accurate and effective feedback. I may even be able to determine where you lost a girl’s interest—something I’ll note in your report. This means I’ll be wearing an earpiece when you approach. Your radio will also come with an earpiece that, depending on your mood, you can wear during an approach or two so I can feed you game advice in real time (I’ll arm you with a ready-made excuse if the girl happens to see it.) Think of me as a modern-day Cyrano de Bergerac. The radio is only used for day game, since background noise at night is too high. Note that conversations will not be recorded, thus ensuring the legality of the method.
Here’s a diagram of the wiring system I’m using for the workshop:
I’ll ask you to wear some type of undershirt—either a wife beater or simple t-shirt—to attach the microphone and earpiece body. The microphone will remain hidden even if you wear a regular t-shirt over your undershirt, but a collared shirt will better conceal the earpiece wiring in the couple instances you put it on. The push-to-talk button will go in your front pocket and the radio itself will go in your back pocket.
Two Habits Of Highly Effective Trainers
I’ve taken a lot of lessons in my adult life: music, motorcycle, bartending, Spanish, Portuguese, racquetball, sailing, and a whole bunch of corporate workshops and training that I’ve thankfully forgotten. Over the years, I’ve learned two things about what it takes to be a good instructor:
1. Lecturing isn’t effective. Being a passive receptacle is the least effective way to learn something. Anything I’ve gotten good at has been from doing instead of just listening, which simply doesn’t work for a majority of people. I apologize to my prior students for putting up with this format.
2. Feedback is the key to improvement. The best instructors I’ve ever had recognized exactly what I was doing wrong and then had the honestly to tell me without having to sugar-coat. I remember my Spanish instructor in Argentina who thought my accent was straight-up “bad.” She stopped me every few seconds and forced me to repeat words to her liking, sometimes making me feel like an idiot, but I experienced the biggest improvement to my Spanish thanks to her tough love/positive feedback approach.
In my workshop, with the addition of the secret service radios and post-workshop report, I’ll make the feedback rain on you in a friendly but honest manner. With pinpoint accuracy, I’ll give you a list of actionable items that will have you seeing more improvement in the following three months than you’ve experienced in the previous year. I’m confident that my advice will make you eager to get back out in the field to try the suggestions I made.
What To Expect From The Workshop
You won’t be coming to me as a blank slate. Even if you’re a newbie, you’ll have some previous experience, and our goal will be to help you jump up one level in the next 3-6 months. Here are the five basic levels of game, keeping in mind that there are also varying degrees between levels.
Level 0: Newbie who has never cold approached
You’ll learn how to approach, and I’ll expect you to have a handful of 1-3 minute conversations. After the workshop, you’ll have less fear about approaching, since you’ll have firsthand experience that it’s not as bad as you imagined it to be.
Level 1: Beginner who has done a couple dozen approaches
You’ll learn how to maintain conversations and to convey interest. You’ll have conversations that will be longer than five minutes in length, coming close to at least getting a number. After the workshop, you’ll have sharper social skills and better calibration ability (i.e. knowing when a girl is interested or not).
Level 2: Intermediate gamesman who has gotten bangs out of cold approaching
You’ll have a couple conversations longer than ten minutes and will most likely get at least one number. After the workshop, you’ll become more effective at closing and escalating.
Level 3: Advanced gamesman who has gotten many bangs in the past year
You’ll get at least two numbers, with a 20% chance of banging a girl you meet during the workshop. Afterwards your game will be sharper and more refined. I’ll help you move your focus from phone numbers to same-night dates and one-night stands.
Level 4: One-night stand master gamesman
The workshop will freshen up your game, eliminate bad habits that have escaped your radar, and allow you to learn additional shortcuts that get you the bang faster.
With these workshops my job is to upgrade your game software instead of installing a new operating system. We’ll take what you have and refine it to give you the most mileage for rapid improvement, though ultimately it’ll be up to you to use the feedback and material after the workshop to maintain your progress. The workshop isn’t about creating overnight success stories, but putting you on the correct track so it all happens sooner.
On average, you’ll do twelve approaches during a day workshop and eight at night. If you’re taking the 1-on-1 workshop, you’ll do more. In previous day workshops, the average student made fourteen approaches.
Here’s a detailed review from the last workshop I taught. It was a combination day and night workshop that took place in Medellin, Colombia.
My goal of doing this workshop was to gain the confidence to approach girls. I am confident in many areas of my life but approaching women was just not one of them. I think my biggest issue is that I just did not know what to say. I can confidently say that Roosh has given me the tools and the confidence to approach girls. I can honestly say this because I approached girls/groups of girls about 20 times that night and saw firsthand that the tools that Roosh gave me really do work.
I came into the workshop with the goal of learning the specifics of how to approach women in a nightclub. But I came away from the workshop with far more than that. I’ll start from the beginning…
The first part was a 2-3 hour lecture. I was apprehensive about having a lecture beforehand when I figured I would get a lot more out of the night if I was to just start approaching girls ASAP. I was wrong. Roosh created a thorough manual that started with inner game and ended with the specifics on how to approach women in any situation (cafe, grocery store, street, bar, etc.). His material was surprisingly unique and the main concepts I learned are things I had never read before. He made sure that I understood the material completely and I think that rehearsing certain situations with Roosh really helped. The only critque about this portion is of the workshop is that we did not have enough time to complete the manual before doing approaches. It would have helped to start an hour or so earlier. Even so, we did finish going over the manual by the time the night was over at around 3 or 4am!
After finishing the lecture part we headed to an area with an abundance of bars and clubs. Our first mission was for me to approach girls/groups of girls walking down the street. I used a very simple line to get the girl(s) attention and have some short conversations that went pretty well. I even got a few numbers out of it. Even with the line Roosh provided I never would have been able to get the girls to stop and talk with me if it were not for Roosh’s specific technique to do this. He made it easy for me since he specifically positioned me and pointed out the girls I should talk to ahead of time before passing them.
The next portion of the night was at a busy bar. No, we did not just go up and approach as many girls as I could without discretion. The way Roosh suggested doing this felt far more comfortable because we took a position in the bar and I approached girls when they either passed us or when it seemed natural (i.e. getting another drink at the bar). But even then he did not just say, “ok go talk to the girls when you get another drink at the bar.” He explained how exactly I could do it, involving positioning, the best opener to use, etc.) Let me also add that we only approached attractive girls! I ended up with a few good conversations at the bar and had a great time!
Next up was a busy bar/small club. As soon as we walked inside he pointed out a group to approach but I chickened out…plus they were a bunch of hippie looking girls with manly hair. I think Roosh understood my apprehension and we went further into the club where I approached a group of girls with Roosh’s simple opener and wound up talking/dancing salsa with one of the girls for a bit. I was ready to move on and Roosh sensed this so he pointed out another group of girls to approach. It ended up going like that for a while. Though a few times I chickened out and he told me to go walk around and don’t come back until I approach a girl(s). This tough love was what I needed and eventually I did approach some more girls. Then some more! For the first time in my life I could rotate between groups of girls which I imagine really helps with attraction but also made me feel that much cooler! I ended up dancing pretty heavily with one girl and on my way between rotating from groups of girls Roosh advised me on how to isolate her. It didn’t work out so well seeing as how she was with her cousins and sister though but I am confident that I can do it in the future in an easier situation.
I chose to end the night after 8 hours of lecture and approaching girls because I was exhausted. I had such a blast that night and Roosh’s instruction was invaluable and though it’s to early to say, most likely a life changing experience. I have a thorough understanding on how to approach girls in any situation in addition to other factors like posture, positioning, etc. I am probably at a tougher stage now because I know in my heart that I have no excuses not to practice this stuff and if I don’t I have nobody to blame but myself.
I just came come from 7 1/2 months abroad and am extremely busy visiting friends, family, and catching up on my work. But I am excited about starting my last semester of university so that I take advantage of the great opportunities and situations to approach girls. It really helps to have Roosh’s continual guidance as he had made it abundantly clear that I should keep in touch and update him on my progress and any questions I have.
Here’s another review from a man who eventually slept with a girl he met during the workshop.
I really had a great time on the workshop. The idea of approaching random girls is not new to me, but I found that my interactions often weren’t going anywhere unless the girl took some sort of initiative/interest. The Galnuc and banter topics you discusses are a solid way of building interest and rapport while not sounding like some random pushy werido. You were encouraging and made it fun along the way once we hit the street, although in the beginning some parts were more helpful than others.
That first Turkish girl I talked to was pretty rough, I’m thinking maybe there’s a way to be more private in the beginning. It may also make you and the guys in the workshop more comfortable. Maybe grabbing one of those tables by the window would have been a good idea to mitigate this.
One of the big realizations I had during the workshop is to hit on a girl without actually hitting on her. Girls know you’re doing it, but for some reason you can’t come out and say it, you need to talk about some BS random goofy stuff like you gave us. (more on this below).
Later that night I texted 3/4 numbers I got but never called the Germans staying at the Marriott since I got a response from 2 out of the original 4. (The german’s international # bounce back on my carrier). The blonde sign language girl was going to a show and going out in georgetown so that was too far away form where I was going (Dupont) so the Brazilian was the girl I was going to meet up.
When the Brazilian girl showed up she was really looking good way more impressive than at the store. She friended me on facebook so you can see her picture, and a good example of day to night transformation. She met with my friends and we hung out for a while before going back to Dupont Circle to hang out and chat on the fountain for a while. She told me that she knew I was hitting on her right away but thought it was fun and was attracted to me (as mentioned above) I’m thinking the material really helped to clear the air and make it fun. At any rate after talking and getting a little touchy, I took her back to my place and banged her. That’s right, one of your workshop students got laid as a result of the workshop. Now I’m not sure what the going rate of hookers is these days, but for $175, that’s a great ROI. And this girl was no hooker (not that I would know), she was a cool girl with a great personality and fun to hang out with.
So there you have it, I had a great time. Thanks for your tips and information along the way. I’m going to stick with this and try to get better, I really enjoy meeting women and during the daytime I believe is the best time to do it.
One of my youngest day game students posted a review of the workshop on his blog. My favorite part:
What I learned in that day game workshop changed me forever. It was worth every penny.
Some of the men who’ve taken my workshop have reached incredible heights. I’m especially thinking of Tyler, who I see today as an equal, not a protégé.
Below are prices for all the workshop types and sizes. They are subject to increase.
Every workshop includes the following:
- At least four hours of in-field instruction
- Custom post-workshop report
- Electronic editions of the workshop manual and my book Bang (if you already have Bang, deduct $10)
- Complimentary email support for any game questions you may have for three months following the workshop
- A 50% discount on my upcoming day game book (expected release date: second half of 2011)
If you want to sign up for both a day and night workshop, you’ll get a 15% discount off the total price. If you want to take a workshop with a friend, you’ll both receive a 10% discount.
You’ll notice the prices are higher than two years ago. The main reason is that my knowledge of game has increased considerably, allowing you to learn material that is closer to being bulletproof. For example, the day game workshop has a new module on venue changing and same-night dating, something that wasn’t covered in the previous round. A small sampling of other modules include: Differences Between Day & Night Game, The Optimal Mindset, Rambling & Baiting, Nighttime One-Night Stands, and Turning Regular Thoughts Into Effective Openers.
I estimate that there are less than five men in Washington DC who have the deep game knowledge and experience I possess while also being able to teach it effectively to others. You’ll be learning from a veteran—not from someone who only made his first approach a couple years ago after seeing The Game at Barnes & Noble. With this new workshop I aim to continue providing good value for guys who want to improve their game.
Scheduling and Sign-Up
Day game workshops will take place Friday and Saturday starting at 2:00 p.m. Night game workshops will take place on the same days, at 9:00 p.m. To sign up, email me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the word “Workshop” in the subject line (or use this form) and tell me which dates are best for you. Once we find you a free slot, I’ll ask you to make a deposit with a credit card to lock in your spot.
You’ll get the workshop manual and Bang via email the week of the workshop, along with other details, such as what to wear and bring. You’ll receive your follow-up report three or four days after the workshop.
If you live in New York City, the cheapest way to attend the workshop is to take Bolt Bus ($35 round trip) and stay one night in the HI Hostel ($32.95/night), which is close to the starting locations of both the day and night workshops. A slightly cheaper option is the nearby Washington International Student Center Hostel ($27.78/night).
If you have questions about the workshop, post them in the comments section so everyone will be able to see my answer.
I don’t think I shared the number close results from my day game workshops. Out of 397 approaches, my students got 31 numbers while on the workshop, for an approach close rate of 7.8% (1 out of 13 approaches). Considering they were using new material for the first time and approaching in tough situations (some of the approached girls knew a game workshop was going on), I think the number is respectable. With a little practice and niche finding, 20% is definitely not out of reach.
Out of all 30 students, 15 got at least one number. So half of the students got to experience the initial stages of success.
One thing I haven’t talked about is how many guys banged a girl he met on the workshop. That number is three, or 10%. Two out of those three got a relationship out of it.
- 1 one of those bangs happened from a girl met in a clothing shop
- 2 of those bangs happened from girls met in the bookstore
How many guys do you know has banged a girl from meeting in either of those places? And to put things in better perspective, I was hovering over these guys taking notes with a running timer while they talked to a girl they eventually had sex with.
I think the bang rate is impressive. That means if you took my workshop, you had an immediate 10% chance of banging a girl you meet from it.
I want to have a day game book completed by the end of 2010, but before that I have to squeeze out a short book that I’m hoping will be ready by Spring. I’m trying hard to be productive but it’s impossible while traveling.
One of my most interesting day game workshops took place this past weekend. My student was Jessica’s kid Jack.
I was a little surprised when Jessica asked me to teach her kid day game. I told her I thought he was a little young, but she was insistent on giving him a head start and I’m not one to turn down money being thrown at me. She volunteered to pay my round-trip ticket from Colombia and also threw in a little bonus in case Jack went potty on himself during the workshop. He’s almost a year old.
The workshop started in the coffee shop with three hours of lecture material. It’s there that I felt that Jack wasn’t really comprehending my teachings. He couldn’t stay focused and sobbed loudly through much of the session, drawing dirty looks from many patrons who probably assumed I was his father. He definitely went potty on himself and with the help of Starbucks personnel I got him cleaned up and ready for the hands-on session where he would chat with girls.
I asked him multiple times if he was ready for the approaches, but he would just give me blank stares while smashing his Spongebob Squarepants toy on the table. I took that for a yes.
He wasn’t exhibiting any approach anxiety (suggesting a possible natural ability), and opened an extremely attractive young 20-something girl next to our table. He completely blew the line I taught him, instead mouthing off gibberish that even I couldn’t understand, but unbelievably it worked and she turned her body completely to face him with a giant smile. She complimented his appearance and touched him immediately and incessantly, something that has never happened to me in coffee shops. For taking absolutely no notes during the lecture portion (instead he gnawed on the pen I lent him), his first approach was proceeding quite splendidly.
The girl tried to lift him up for some reason and that’s when we both noticed that he went potty on himself again. I figured the approach was over and we’d have to leave, but she cleaned him up with some moist toilettes left over from the last time he went potty and resumed playing with him. I was in total disbelief that his technique was working, and started furiously taking notes on what I was observing. The girl eventually gave me her number, telling me to call the next time Jack wanted to play. Weird thing is Jack never asked for her number, and it’s here that I suspected Jack was using an inner game technique.
Jack and I then went to the Urban Outfitters. He started to wreck many of the display cases and the staff wasn’t all too pleased with my sheepish apologies. I distanced myself and let him crawl amok while I pretended to shop for extra skinny jeans. Out the corner of my eye I saw three beautiful girls rush to his side from nowhere and say, “What are you doing little guy?!” There were encircling him, all on their knees, asking Jack questions like what’s his name and how old he was. The girls definitely were interested but Jack was more into his beloved Spongebob, now heavy with drool. They gave up after trying hard for five minutes, possibly more. I started to doubt Jack was completely truthful earlier when he remained silent after I asked him if he had any prior pick up experience.
We left Urban Outfitters and went to McDonalds. He didn’t eat much (half his French Fries ended up on the floor), but he killed his Coca-Cola. The sugar and caffeine energized him for our next venue, the street, which any guy knows is the hardest place to pick up.
Here’s where it gets a little weird: Jack didn’t have to do the approaches himself—the girls approached him outright. Not only that but they lavished him with compliments on his physical appearance, saying he was “cute,” “adorable,” and a “handsome little man.” I was flabbergasted as neither myself or my previous students have ever been approached on the street like that. Even when he wasn’t being approached, the amount of eye contact he got was more than I received in the past week. Jack didn’t seem to be too interested in the girls though and declined to close any of the them. I started to feel a bit insecure that I was being somewhat upstaged by someone who supposedly had no prior field experience.
The effect of the carbonated beverage was wearing off so I figured we only had time for one more venue—the bookstore. Once inside he immediately went off to the children’s section and grabbed Goodnight Moon. I advised him that it’s better to put down the baby book and grab an interesting one that he can use as a prop for conversation, such as The Omnivore’s Dilemma or Eat, Pray, Love. He yelled at the top of his lungs, which I took as a no, and rampaged through the store while crumpling the book’s pages. I had to assure the staff that I’d purchase the now-destroyed book, which I would later bill to Jessica.
During the rampage we both took notice of a gorgeous Eastern European girl, presumably on vacation (she had a plastic bag from one of the Smithsonian museums—Air and Space if I remember correctly). I was ready to throw Jack under the bus to game her myself, but she slid up next to him before I could make a move and asked him, “What book do you got there?”
Jack showed her his work of destruction and the girl, who turns out was from Poland, was so enamored that she started reading from the ruined pages. Then suddenly I was hit with a most offensive wall of fecal odor. The Polish girl stopped reading (she was at the page where the cow crashes through the window), and said, “Someone went doo-doo in his pants!” Apparently Jack took a massive dump.
I’ll be honest: I felt a little pleased at his accident because I was tired of his nonstop success, but then without warning the Polish girl embraced him and then carried him to the bathroom to clean his bottom. They came back and were laughing hard, and I can swear they were making fun of me but exactly how I do not know. Then the Polish girl looked at me said, “Here’s my number. Call me if you need help with your handsome little man.”
“Oh I don’t think I’ll need help,” I said. “But if want to grab a drink tomorrow night we can….”
“Uhhh I don’t know. But if you have Jack around then I’ll come.”
Yeah that stung a bit.
The Polish girl left and I tried to give Jack closing remarks on a table in the cafe, but he just drooled all over the material while putting two pennies in his mouth that he found on the floor. I called Jessica and she came to pick him up not long after, thanking me for my service.
I sat alone in the bookstore coffee shop for a while staring at an Ernest Hemingway poster that was up on the wall, trying to piece together exactly what happened and why the past seven years of my life studying game was challenged in a few hours by someone who used nonsensical gibberish to communicate, soiled his pants repeatedly, and destroyed shit like a crazy maniac.
But then I thought about it more. Jack beats to his own drum. He shows disinterest. He has his own hobbies that he’s 100% commited too, like drooling and bashing things. He’s a straight-up alpha dog, and that’s why those girls threw themselves on him. There’s no other explanation, or else I’ll have to admit that my entire lifestyle is a sham.
There are many ways to skin a cat and Jack has shown me that a simple “Bahhhhagooboopsshhh” is just as effective and saying something like, “So what qualities do you have which make me want to get to know you better?” And here I thought I knew everything about game. Thank you Jack and Jessica, for teaching this old man some new tricks.
I congratulated Pete on the third number he received from a girl at the bookstore. I told him that it will be very hard for another student to get four numbers to break his record, but to be sure he should get one more so that his record remains in the history books for just about eternity. “No one is going to get five numbers,” I told him. He pulled his fourth number on the subway a little while later.
I can tell how good my students are by the end of the introductory conversations I have with them. If they give rich answers full of explanation and are generally chatty it’s a very good sign they will do well during the workshop. Two weeks after Pete’s performance I noticed that my new student, Tyler, had that natural chattiness skill, even going out of his way to build rapport with the other student in the workshop.
After the lecture portion was over, the three of us ventured from one venue to the next. The guys approached while I timed their conversations and took notes. Even though I sensed that Tyler had the innate talent, he did poorly in his first handful of approaches, running out of gas early in the conversation. I pulled him aside and said, “There is no reason why you shouldn’t have two numbers in your pocket right now instead of none. You’re fucking sleeping out there. How bad do you want it?” Some guys need fires lit under their asses because penetrating vagina can be too far down the road to serve as immediate motivation while out there on the field.
Through teaching workshops I have learned that being nice and encouraging like a grade school teacher does not translate into real world improvement. For an immediately jump in performance I bring out a healthy dose of disapproval, insult, abuse, and humiliation, which all act as a NOS nitrous boost for men.
My lashing worked because at our next venue, an H&M, he got two numbers, one upstairs and one downstairs. No guy has gotten two numbers in the same place before. He opened indirectly, stayed in the conversation, kept rambling on, built intrigue by tossing out bait, and then went for the number. Sometimes he stayed on script and sometimes he didn’t, but since he wasn’t appearing desperate I wasn’t getting on him too hard about strategy. He was so pumped that in subsequent approaches girls would tell him they had a serious boyfriend and he’d laugh it off and ask if the boyfriend would mind them hanging out. His desire was burning, like gonorrhea.
At the bookstore he got an email address and then a number. I told him I couldn’t count the email address so he still had to get one more number to tie the record. The other student had a what the fuck look on his face and made a comment about Tyler’s decent looks, but after doing fourteen of these workshops I knew his appearance was only part of the equation. His ramble and humor was among the best I’ve ever seen, and Tyler even commented to me that before he got into the game he “didn’t get shit.”
On the subway he got another number, tying the record.
Grocery store was the last venue. “Tyler, I don’t mean to put any pressure on you, but if you get one more number you get the record. No one is going to get six numbers.” There wouldn’t be a post if he didn’t get. Out of 17 approaches he got five numbers all from cute, bangable girls for a 29% close rate, and I’m not counting the email address.
What did he do right? He could talk. He could tell if a girl was getting bored with a topic he picked. He was funny. He was interesting because he had done interesting things. He worked out and took care of himself. And he wanted it bad. A hater can flip the equation say he rejected 12 times in a few hours, more times than most guys get rejected in a year, but by playing the numbers game and putting in his dues he’s being rewarded for his hard work.
Five years ago I wouldn’t have imagined having no prospects and then going out one Saturday afternoon and getting five of them without using money or status. And without having to get cockblocked. My own success and the success of my students has completely convinced me that day game is a sustainable way to meet girls and get laid. As soon as I’m done with my second book, which is inching towards the finish line, I’ll start work on adapting my day game manual into a book. It’s what the people want.
Tyler wrote about the workshop on his blog. I teach my last two students this Saturday. With these workshops I feel like I’ve made a positive impact to the world, and now it’s time to do the same but in Ethiopia with starving kids instead of horny guys.
I have now taught ten day game workshops to nineteen men. April will most likely be the last month I do these. I’m going to be a little mum on my plans since they aren’t finalized yet, but I plan on hitting the road by May.
Here’s some workshop thoughts from a few students:
I’d give the workshop an A+ grade. I liked how easy the system is, and thought Roosh was a great teacher. He explained everything in an easy to understand manner, and then closely watched the approaches, taking good notes so he could give lots of feedback. He uses a casual, “under the radar” style with openers that just sound like natural conversation. Because they are so easy and natural sounding, the openers take only a minimum amount of balls to deliver. Roosh gives you a 100% effort–worth every bit of your money.
The key to tight day game is indirect approaches. Direct game is not game at all, but a roll of the die based on what a girl thinks about your physical appearance.
First of all, I really appreciate how you stayed beyond your planned time, and helped me get started with day game.
I thought entire program was well thought-out and ‘easy to follow’, although actual execution of the routines were rough.
I think the workshop could be improved with additional help beyond ‘opener’ and ‘follow up’…(like when we kept on asking you for possible scenarios after back-and-forth follow up) but then again… I imagine anything beyond is mid-level game, and there would be too many scenarios and factors involved.
The workshop was really worth the cost and time, especially with the idea that “SHE WANTS TO GIVE YOU THE NUMBER, NOT THAT YOU ARE SCHEMING TO GET THAT NUMBER”. That statement and idea really opened my eyes and my attitude towards the game.
When you’re using the material for the first time it will be choppy, though rarely disastrous since the approach is indirect. With practice it will get a lot smoother. Beyond the follow-up I teach the main idea of what you want to do (baiting, rambling), but it is not feasible to memorize conversation. That would be too robotic and unnatural.
My overall experience with the Day Game Workshop was positive. The provided workbook that was extremely helpful and the in depth explanation of the concepts gave me a better understanding of the pick-up techniques that work. Not only did Roosh show me how to successfully approach women during the day, Roosh also made the workshop fun and gave me the motivation I needed to approach women. Of the 15 women I approached during the workshop, I came away two numbers (one of which, I dated today). After the workshop, I even used Roosh’s techniques on the subway to get an additional number from a pair of girls. I am quite satisfied with the the Day Game Workshop and would recommend it to anyone with a desire to learn how to attract women. THANKS ROOSH!
This was one of my most advanced students. His day game learning curve will be short because he was already decent with girls beforehand.
The workshop was great, and more than worth it. It was transformational and helped build my confidence to go out and practice. I actually talked to a woman on the street and used FALNUC and said let’s hang out. I didn’t number close, but I did something I’ve never done before and it honestly made me proud. I’ve been on kind of a high since Sunday. I have been talking to girls and not getting scared to open because I’m so under the radar using some of the lines you taught me as well reframing it that my interest was just not sexual during the day. I’ll write more later this week as I just got back from a date, and I do need your advice moving to the Bang. Your book will probably answer it for me, but I won’t get a chance to read it until this weekend.
FALNUC is an mneumonic I made up for when it’s time to get the number. Each letter stands for something. It’s a bit involved but it increases rapport while reducing the liklihood of a flake.
The workshop lasts about 8 hours, of which roughly the first several are spent going over the theory and the material, and the the remainder is spent in bookshops, grocery stores, clothing stores and other usual places people go to during the day.
Although the material can be pretty dry, things pick up quickly when pickup attempts are made. Roosh has a pretty clear idea of what works and what doesn’t and is an encyclopedia of experience. Perhaps my attention span is too short, but while I found it difficult to absorb the written material, once it was demonstrated in practice a structure was developed and then honed in on.
Roosh does a good job of keeping things fun, humorous, and informative. Overall I would recommend this experience to anyone.
Pros: Asking Roosh all sorts of questions about lots of aspects of the game.
Cons: Sitting for a lecture for several hours is why I go to school.
The most common complaint I have is the initial 2-3 hours where students are listening to me talk. I’m aware of this but I don’t want to put students in tough situations without preparing them beforehand. The material takes time to explain, and it should because it’s not easy. Here’s another comment about that:
I didn’t like the amount of time we spent at Starbucks. We were there for about three hours just looking over your packet. It reminded me of school, and so my mind began to wander. I thought we should have been thrown into the fire immediately. If we had left earlier, we might have seen some hotter women.
As far as you analyzing our approaches, that was the best part of the workshop. The nuggets of information you fed me were very useful.
Overall, it was an experience that has numbed me from the nervousness of approaching.
This student had the type of personality where he liked a challenge, but most guys would be traumatized if “thrown into the fire.” In a perfect world I would give students personality quizzes before the workshop and pair them up with someone like them.
Here are the previous things I’ve written about the workshop:
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