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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-46054</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is right on!  Kent State did a study on women getting drunk and initiating sexual contact and claiming that they were drugged.  He is correct when he says that women can get away with lying more then men can.  Another thing I found out by doing some research:  Women taking the date rape drug themselves, not telling their date, initiating sexual contact, and then crying rape.  These women that do this are hurting men and real rape victims.</description>
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<p>This post is right on!  Kent State did a study on women getting drunk and initiating sexual contact and claiming that they were drugged.  He is correct when he says that women can get away with lying more then men can.  Another thing I found out by doing some research:  Women taking the date rape drug themselves, not telling their date, initiating sexual contact, and then crying rape.  These women that do this are hurting men and real rape victims.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-36238</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most of the cases of girls being drugged are date rapes, namely the girl got slipped something by a guy she knows. Most rapes period are usually committed by someone the victim knows. It&#039;s too hard for a stranger to slip a girl something and discreety get the girl to her home and rape her. Also, roofies don&#039;t cause the girl to pass out. She&#039;s actually functional and probably in a dazed state where she is compliant, but may not be clear on what happened the next day when she wakes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of the cases of girls being drugged are date rapes, namely the girl got slipped something by a guy she knows. Most rapes period are usually committed by someone the victim knows. It&#8217;s too hard for a stranger to slip a girl something and discreety get the girl to her home and rape her. Also, roofies don&#8217;t cause the girl to pass out. She&#8217;s actually functional and probably in a dazed state where she is compliant, but may not be clear on what happened the next day when she wakes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeah Baby</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-35067</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeah Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I don’t think the idea that any girl that leaves any bar/club with any guy is planning to have sex...is accurate&quot;

Girl goes to bar to meet guys. Girl has known the guy for an hour. Wants to go back to her place &quot;to talk&quot;? If she wants to talk, it can wait until a phone call the next day. She wants her cunny filled with his thick rod. As soon as you leave the bar with her, you&#039;ve got her consent. Any argument later is just her being a bitch, in which case you give her the roofy.

When she wakes up in the morning, she&#039;ll be ashamed, but she knows she was asking for it and will keep her mouth shut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I don’t think the idea that any girl that leaves any bar/club with any guy is planning to have sex&#8230;is accurate&#8221;</p>
<p>Girl goes to bar to meet guys. Girl has known the guy for an hour. Wants to go back to her place &#8220;to talk&#8221;? If she wants to talk, it can wait until a phone call the next day. She wants her cunny filled with his thick rod. As soon as you leave the bar with her, you&#8217;ve got her consent. Any argument later is just her being a bitch, in which case you give her the roofy.</p>
<p>When she wakes up in the morning, she&#8217;ll be ashamed, but she knows she was asking for it and will keep her mouth shut.</p>
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		<title>By: mil0</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-24256</link>
		<dc:creator>mil0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False rape charges should carry the same sentence as rape, once they are proven, or admitted by the bitch falsely claiming rape. 

BTW,

Date rape is also in many cases &quot;I had sex with him. I enjoyed it. He did not call me next day. I feel used. RAAAAPPPPEEEEE!!!&quot;

And for any morons out there: Rape is a crime, and should be punished. 

And so is a false accusation.</description>
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<p>False rape charges should carry the same sentence as rape, once they are proven, or admitted by the bitch falsely claiming rape. </p>
<p>BTW,</p>
<p>Date rape is also in many cases &#8220;I had sex with him. I enjoyed it. He did not call me next day. I feel used. RAAAAPPPPEEEEE!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>And for any morons out there: Rape is a crime, and should be punished. </p>
<p>And so is a false accusation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-19789</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for your mother.I really can&#039;t believe you came from a woman.Not only are you full of bulls*it but you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.I honestly think you need to sit down and talk to some real date rape victims.</description>
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<p>I feel sorry for your mother.I really can&#8217;t believe you came from a woman.Not only are you full of bulls*it but you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.I honestly think you need to sit down and talk to some real date rape victims.</p>
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		<title>By: My First Night Out In DC &#187; Roosh V</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-18226</link>
		<dc:creator>My First Night Out In DC &#187; Roosh V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] went to Marvin (2007 14th St NW), a U-street hipster joint, with VK, Roissy, and fan favorite Insomnia. It&#8217;s a tough decision of whether I rather be alone in a mega-club filled with future models [...]</description>
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<p>[...] went to Marvin (2007 14th St NW), a U-street hipster joint, with VK, Roissy, and fan favorite Insomnia. It&#8217;s a tough decision of whether I rather be alone in a mega-club filled with future models [...]</p>
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		<title>By: funny things&#8230; &#171; The Ethereal Realm</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-8158</link>
		<dc:creator>funny things&#8230; &#171; The Ethereal Realm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another blog I came across from the &#8216;DC Bachelor&#8217;: Girls Are So Naive Date Rape Druggings a Myth [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Another blog I came across from the &#8216;DC Bachelor&#8217;: Girls Are So Naive Date Rape Druggings a Myth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WendyT</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-6457</link>
		<dc:creator>WendyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you go to a hospital if you knew you&#039;d take cocaine?  Perhaps, because most of them were already trashed and disoriented enough that they were there in the first place.  Do you think that someone testing positive for Cocaine or MDMA, would just be like yeah I was taking some hits earlier in the night?

Whether Roosh is right or not, people need to stop using themselves as if they were an unbiased peer-reviewed study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you go to a hospital if you knew you&#8217;d take cocaine?  Perhaps, because most of them were already trashed and disoriented enough that they were there in the first place.  Do you think that someone testing positive for Cocaine or MDMA, would just be like yeah I was taking some hits earlier in the night?</p>
<p>Whether Roosh is right or not, people need to stop using themselves as if they were an unbiased peer-reviewed study.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5283</link>
		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m late to the table on this one, but I have to point out that you are twisting the facts of the study. True, no one tested positive for flunitrazepam (rohypnol) and -hydroxybutyrate (GHB). HOWEVER, 8 of those tested tested positive for drugs of misuse, such as amphetamine and cocaine. Now, you might claim that these people (they weren&#039;t all women) took the drugs for fun. They all said they hadn&#039;t, had no knowledge of these drugs, and why would you go to a hospital to claim date-rape if you knew you&#039;d taken cocaine? The study concluded by saying that its own numbers most likely under-represented the number of people experiencing date rape, because most people don&#039;t go get checked out. Stir up controversy all you want,  but don&#039;t assume that no one is going to check your so-called facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to the table on this one, but I have to point out that you are twisting the facts of the study. True, no one tested positive for flunitrazepam (rohypnol) and -hydroxybutyrate (GHB). HOWEVER, 8 of those tested tested positive for drugs of misuse, such as amphetamine and cocaine. Now, you might claim that these people (they weren&#8217;t all women) took the drugs for fun. They all said they hadn&#8217;t, had no knowledge of these drugs, and why would you go to a hospital to claim date-rape if you knew you&#8217;d taken cocaine? The study concluded by saying that its own numbers most likely under-represented the number of people experiencing date rape, because most people don&#8217;t go get checked out. Stir up controversy all you want,  but don&#8217;t assume that no one is going to check your so-called facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5198</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I hope you get ass raped in the very near future.&quot; -ugh

You mean without even the benefit of a reach-around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hope you get ass raped in the very near future.&#8221; -ugh</p>
<p>You mean without even the benefit of a reach-around?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5102</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had a nickel for every time I&#039;ve &#039;roofied&#039; someone.....wait, I am rich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had a nickel for every time I&#8217;ve &#8216;roofied&#8217; someone&#8230;..wait, I am rich!</p>
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		<title>By: mhm</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>mhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;re not a drama queen at all Kassy.  I can&#039;t imagine what made me say that.</description>
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<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re not a drama queen at all Kassy.  I can&#8217;t imagine what made me say that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5080</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the absurdity of this post and of the subsequent reaction is staggering.  Whether his intent was to in fact post something so inflamatory so as to only spark this outrage or if he truly believes what he is saying, a more diplomatic tone could have been taken.  Saying something is a myth (like a compassionate conservative) when it actually does exist and is all too prevalent is not the way to spark debate.   Denigrating people who been summarily affected or know someone who has been affected is not the way to endear yourself or your &#039;message&#039;.

Poor form...worse execution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the absurdity of this post and of the subsequent reaction is staggering.  Whether his intent was to in fact post something so inflamatory so as to only spark this outrage or if he truly believes what he is saying, a more diplomatic tone could have been taken.  Saying something is a myth (like a compassionate conservative) when it actually does exist and is all too prevalent is not the way to spark debate.   Denigrating people who been summarily affected or know someone who has been affected is not the way to endear yourself or your &#8216;message&#8217;.</p>
<p>Poor form&#8230;worse execution</p>
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		<title>By: UGH</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5076</link>
		<dc:creator>UGH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fucking fool. I hope you get ass raped in the very near future.</description>
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<p>What a fucking fool. I hope you get ass raped in the very near future.</p>
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		<title>By: mhm</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5075</link>
		<dc:creator>mhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I might be backing out of happy hour for this post.&quot;


   Drama queen much?  Jaysus.</description>
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<p>&#8220;I might be backing out of happy hour for this post.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Drama queen much?  Jaysus.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5061</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeez- I didn&#039;t take the time to read all of these comments- but I was at a party in college where I literally saw a pill floating in the top of a friend&#039;s drink. I saw it and told her not to drink it and we left. It may be overstated, but then again there are probably alot of women who have been drugged or raped and they never say anything about it, so who knows what the real statistics are.  I think the only reason you take such an extreme position is because you personally happen to hate women and will jump on any bandwagon that attacks them.  I seriously doubt that you would take such an extreme position with something like child molestation.</description>
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<p>jeez- I didn&#8217;t take the time to read all of these comments- but I was at a party in college where I literally saw a pill floating in the top of a friend&#8217;s drink. I saw it and told her not to drink it and we left. It may be overstated, but then again there are probably alot of women who have been drugged or raped and they never say anything about it, so who knows what the real statistics are.  I think the only reason you take such an extreme position is because you personally happen to hate women and will jump on any bandwagon that attacks them.  I seriously doubt that you would take such an extreme position with something like child molestation.</p>
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		<title>By: blibblab</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5060</link>
		<dc:creator>blibblab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree to a point... We shouldn&#039;t be suspicious of all rape charges as there use to be a culture of suppression of rape - and the side effect of that were that the offenders were on the loose with no repercussions.

HOWEVER - much like many case in the American judicial system - it shouldn&#039;t weigh so much on the woman&#039;s side [see parental rights]. Problem is, one someone&#039;s even accused of rape, that man&#039;s reputation is forever tainted. Not to the degree of a pedo, but worse than a murder in society&#039;s eyes [which is humorous]. Before such charges can be made and before a court verdict comes down, there should be confidentiality in the proceedings. And, like a previous poster stated, there should be some verdict that absolves the accused.

But hey, without the rufies, the Lifetime network would lose a major plot design for &quot;Evil Male #23&quot;. We can&#039;t have that, right?</description>
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<p>I agree to a point&#8230; We shouldn&#8217;t be suspicious of all rape charges as there use to be a culture of suppression of rape &#8211; and the side effect of that were that the offenders were on the loose with no repercussions.</p>
<p>HOWEVER &#8211; much like many case in the American judicial system &#8211; it shouldn&#8217;t weigh so much on the woman&#8217;s side [see parental rights]. Problem is, one someone&#8217;s even accused of rape, that man&#8217;s reputation is forever tainted. Not to the degree of a pedo, but worse than a murder in society&#8217;s eyes [which is humorous]. Before such charges can be made and before a court verdict comes down, there should be confidentiality in the proceedings. And, like a previous poster stated, there should be some verdict that absolves the accused.</p>
<p>But hey, without the rufies, the Lifetime network would lose a major plot design for &#8220;Evil Male #23&#8243;. We can&#8217;t have that, right?</p>
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		<title>By: PM</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5057</link>
		<dc:creator>PM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rape fantisies are about more than submissiveness. Women fantasize about rape so they can enjoy sex without feeling guilty about it. If it\&#039;s rape, they aren\&#039;t responsible, so they can relax and enjoy it. Real rape is an act of violence, not sex.</description>
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<p>Rape fantisies are about more than submissiveness. Women fantasize about rape so they can enjoy sex without feeling guilty about it. If it\&#8217;s rape, they aren\&#8217;t responsible, so they can relax and enjoy it. Real rape is an act of violence, not sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Huh?</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/date-rape-druggings-are-a-myth#comment-5054</link>
		<dc:creator>Huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roosh, the paper you&#039;re pushing is specifically about one area in the UK.  A quick search through CDC pulls up an article on &quot;69 acute poisonings and one death attributed to ingestion of GHB&quot; in poison control centers in New York and Texas from 1995-1996.  Assuming that GHB does not account for every date rape drugging, and that not every date rape drugging is acute enough to report to a poison control center, (typical dose is a few miligrams, while the girl who died after drinking a soda had 27 mg in her blood), both of which are safe assumptions, then it would appear that, in the US at least, this is more common than in the area surveyed by the British emergency workers.  

Roissy, you&#039;re a fool.  You decided something on your own - that women want your cock oh so badly, and they&#039;re all filthy whores, etc etc etc - and then searched around until you found some pseudoscientific bullshit to justify it.  You&#039;re so alpha male, why aren&#039;t you out fucking submissive sluts instead of posting comments on the personal blog of a 20-something nobody?</description>
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<p>Roosh, the paper you&#8217;re pushing is specifically about one area in the UK.  A quick search through CDC pulls up an article on &#8220;69 acute poisonings and one death attributed to ingestion of GHB&#8221; in poison control centers in New York and Texas from 1995-1996.  Assuming that GHB does not account for every date rape drugging, and that not every date rape drugging is acute enough to report to a poison control center, (typical dose is a few miligrams, while the girl who died after drinking a soda had 27 mg in her blood), both of which are safe assumptions, then it would appear that, in the US at least, this is more common than in the area surveyed by the British emergency workers.  </p>
<p>Roissy, you&#8217;re a fool.  You decided something on your own &#8211; that women want your cock oh so badly, and they&#8217;re all filthy whores, etc etc etc &#8211; and then searched around until you found some pseudoscientific bullshit to justify it.  You&#8217;re so alpha male, why aren&#8217;t you out fucking submissive sluts instead of posting comments on the personal blog of a 20-something nobody?</p>
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		<title>By: Huh?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Roissy&#039;s question on female rape fantasies, I present Dan Savage&#039;s take on male cuckhold fantasies:

&quot;Where did his cuckold fetish come from? Like many fetishes, his cuckold thing is most likely a subconscious, erotic response to a sexually charged fear. While most of us learn to live with and occasionally conquer our fears without eroticizing them, a number of us respond to sexual fears or traumas by incorporating them into our erotic imaginations. Think of women—hip, together, progressive, feminist women—who act out rape fantasies; think of homos—hip, together, out homos—who dress up like soldiers, cops, firemen, and other stereotypically violent homophobes.

Women fear rape, yet some develop a fetish for it. Gay men fear violent homophobes, yet some dress up like violent homophobes. And what do many straight men fear? Being cheated on, of course, and dealing with that particular brand of sexual humiliation.&quot;</description>
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<p>Regarding Roissy&#8217;s question on female rape fantasies, I present Dan Savage&#8217;s take on male cuckhold fantasies:</p>
<p>&#8220;Where did his cuckold fetish come from? Like many fetishes, his cuckold thing is most likely a subconscious, erotic response to a sexually charged fear. While most of us learn to live with and occasionally conquer our fears without eroticizing them, a number of us respond to sexual fears or traumas by incorporating them into our erotic imaginations. Think of women—hip, together, progressive, feminist women—who act out rape fantasies; think of homos—hip, together, out homos—who dress up like soldiers, cops, firemen, and other stereotypically violent homophobes.</p>
<p>Women fear rape, yet some develop a fetish for it. Gay men fear violent homophobes, yet some dress up like violent homophobes. And what do many straight men fear? Being cheated on, of course, and dealing with that particular brand of sexual humiliation.&#8221;</p>
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