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		<title>By: Weekend Link Fest &#8211; Green Edition &#171; Seasons of Tumult and Discord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Link Fest &#8211; Green Edition &#171; Seasons of Tumult and Discord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blasts a guy for giving up on game after only six months.  Some guys want results without [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roosh</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29398</link>
		<dc:creator>Roosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What dan says.

Setting up a goal that says &quot;I want to bang the hottest 1% AND the richest 1% of girls in brazil&quot; is retarded.</description>
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<p>Setting up a goal that says &#8220;I want to bang the hottest 1% AND the richest 1% of girls in brazil&#8221; is retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan DeLa Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29394</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan DeLa Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough to infiltrate the elite class of Latin American no matter what country you&#039;re in. The Brazilian elite, wealthy class is no exception. But why even bother? The wealthy elite in Brazil probably amounts to somewhere around 2-5% of the population. What about the other 95% of the population? There are plenty of Brazilian women in the upper middle class, middle class, and lower middle class who probably look just as hot as the wealthiest girls... Maybe they don&#039;t have the money to get breast implants or fix themselves up like the richest of the rich in Brazil, but dam... Just take one of these girls from the middle class and fix her up yourself. Beauty doesn&#039;t discriminate, there are many middle class and even lower class women who look amazing.

&lt;em&gt;Dan DeLa Cruz&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.globaldatingrevolution.com/culture/nice-guys-finish-last-but-who-are-these-nice-guys/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nice Guys Finish Last But Who Are These Nice Guys?&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough to infiltrate the elite class of Latin American no matter what country you&#8217;re in. The Brazilian elite, wealthy class is no exception. But why even bother? The wealthy elite in Brazil probably amounts to somewhere around 2-5% of the population. What about the other 95% of the population? There are plenty of Brazilian women in the upper middle class, middle class, and lower middle class who probably look just as hot as the wealthiest girls&#8230; Maybe they don&#8217;t have the money to get breast implants or fix themselves up like the richest of the rich in Brazil, but dam&#8230; Just take one of these girls from the middle class and fix her up yourself. Beauty doesn&#8217;t discriminate, there are many middle class and even lower class women who look amazing.</p>
<p><em>Dan DeLa Cruz&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.globaldatingrevolution.com/culture/nice-guys-finish-last-but-who-are-these-nice-guys/' rel="nofollow">Nice Guys Finish Last But Who Are These Nice Guys?</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lovechild</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29369</link>
		<dc:creator>Lovechild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been keyboard jockey for 4-5 years and the funny thing about it is...I&#039;m Just starting to really know &quot;Game&quot;. Yeah i took some bootcamp with theApproach guys didn&#039;t learn any shit of their methods nor some of their tactics because it was too advance and too much info at the time but at least I get to approach some honeys in Boston 3 Years ago. At least i had some feedback both by the instructors and on my own experience. The bootcamp was somewhat of scam because i didn&#039;t get any &quot;Return Of Investment&quot; but I get to approach and somewhat get over my fears of approaching. I also realized looking back now they don&#039;t reject you! It&#039;s YOU that reject yourself out low self-esteem, they reject your presentation, the way you present yourself, and your vibe (Body Language).

Yeah I chose the wrong company to attain my goals. Hey some Companies are good but some are just Internet Marketing Scam Artist. They&#039;re good at seducing money out of your pockets. hehehe!

After all those years wasting my time at the fringes of the community i&#039;ve found the right method that suits me and my personality which the Juggler Method. At least I know Game now. I&#039;m not blind anymore. Oh yeah, It&#039;s better to be natural than use bullshit methods of the community most of it are scams anyways. Plus i&#039;ve somewhat mature thanks to my forays outside the community. 

Right now I need to shut up, get my lazy to approach women...right after i get a job but that&#039;s just excuse. hehehe!

That&#039;s where I am right now! I&#039;ll take me a while to get to where I desire to be but hey &quot;Time is an Illusion and there is only Eternity...right?&quot; So i&#039;ve all Eternity right now to get a handle on this.

There is nothing to do but...WORK! So WORK IT!</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been keyboard jockey for 4-5 years and the funny thing about it is&#8230;I&#8217;m Just starting to really know &#8220;Game&#8221;. Yeah i took some bootcamp with theApproach guys didn&#8217;t learn any shit of their methods nor some of their tactics because it was too advance and too much info at the time but at least I get to approach some honeys in Boston 3 Years ago. At least i had some feedback both by the instructors and on my own experience. The bootcamp was somewhat of scam because i didn&#8217;t get any &#8220;Return Of Investment&#8221; but I get to approach and somewhat get over my fears of approaching. I also realized looking back now they don&#8217;t reject you! It&#8217;s YOU that reject yourself out low self-esteem, they reject your presentation, the way you present yourself, and your vibe (Body Language).</p>
<p>Yeah I chose the wrong company to attain my goals. Hey some Companies are good but some are just Internet Marketing Scam Artist. They&#8217;re good at seducing money out of your pockets. hehehe!</p>
<p>After all those years wasting my time at the fringes of the community i&#8217;ve found the right method that suits me and my personality which the Juggler Method. At least I know Game now. I&#8217;m not blind anymore. Oh yeah, It&#8217;s better to be natural than use bullshit methods of the community most of it are scams anyways. Plus i&#8217;ve somewhat mature thanks to my forays outside the community. </p>
<p>Right now I need to shut up, get my lazy to approach women&#8230;right after i get a job but that&#8217;s just excuse. hehehe!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I am right now! I&#8217;ll take me a while to get to where I desire to be but hey &#8220;Time is an Illusion and there is only Eternity&#8230;right?&#8221; So i&#8217;ve all Eternity right now to get a handle on this.</p>
<p>There is nothing to do but&#8230;WORK! So WORK IT!</p>
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		<title>By: lovelysexybeauty</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29368</link>
		<dc:creator>lovelysexybeauty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true about people who *expect* a big life change. Hello, life change is something that just happens.  Usually you don&#039;t notice because it happens *slowly.*  You have to look back to 5 years or even 1 year ago...

P.S. Liked the other post about how men&#039;s rights movement people are perceived... I&#039;ve heard them called &quot;flamers&quot; (as in being in the closet or something).  Most normal go-getter guys don&#039;t even know what the heck men&#039;s rights are.  Complainers and lazy people are turn offs... how loserly to give up.  &amp; if the system sucks learn how work it, find the loopholes.

&lt;em&gt;lovelysexybeauty&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://lovelysexybeauty.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/different-ideals-of-booty/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Different Ideals of Booty&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p>So true about people who *expect* a big life change. Hello, life change is something that just happens.  Usually you don&#8217;t notice because it happens *slowly.*  You have to look back to 5 years or even 1 year ago&#8230;</p>
<p>P.S. Liked the other post about how men&#8217;s rights movement people are perceived&#8230; I&#8217;ve heard them called &#8220;flamers&#8221; (as in being in the closet or something).  Most normal go-getter guys don&#8217;t even know what the heck men&#8217;s rights are.  Complainers and lazy people are turn offs&#8230; how loserly to give up.  &amp; if the system sucks learn how work it, find the loopholes.</p>
<p><em>lovelysexybeauty&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://lovelysexybeauty.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/different-ideals-of-booty/' rel="nofollow">Different Ideals of Booty</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29358</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone is misreading the original e-mail.  He&#039;s saying that he was discouraged by the post written by Roosh- not by 6 months of field experience- which said that having game isn&#039;t enough to pick up the hottest girls in the rich clubs.

I believe the Hammer of Justice was dropped too quickly on this man.</description>
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<p>I think everyone is misreading the original e-mail.  He&#8217;s saying that he was discouraged by the post written by Roosh- not by 6 months of field experience- which said that having game isn&#8217;t enough to pick up the hottest girls in the rich clubs.</p>
<p>I believe the Hammer of Justice was dropped too quickly on this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29355</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the &quot;newbie mission&quot; and the social bootcamp are different but not mutually exclusive, as you can do them both together. &quot;Gaming&quot; girls the right way is generally congruent with being just a cool guy to be around. However, you don&#039;t need to be constantly practicing game to be undertaking your social bootcamp. But I don&#039;t know why you wouldn&#039;t hit on girls at the same time. Just make sure you are being cool about it, and not weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the &#8220;newbie mission&#8221; and the social bootcamp are different but not mutually exclusive, as you can do them both together. &#8220;Gaming&#8221; girls the right way is generally congruent with being just a cool guy to be around. However, you don&#8217;t need to be constantly practicing game to be undertaking your social bootcamp. But I don&#8217;t know why you wouldn&#8217;t hit on girls at the same time. Just make sure you are being cool about it, and not weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By social bootcamp, I mean getting to the point where you are socially adept enough where you can easily befriend any stranger or group of strangers, if you wish, and don&#039;t project undesirable or socially awkward/weird behavior. You have the ability to make people relax around you. Girls and guys actually seek out your friendship and company. Remember, girls and guys have to be on-board, as some guys are great with other guys but weird around girls. Its basically the process of becoming &quot;cool&quot;.  Cool is more important than fun, as you are not there to entertain. But fun usually accompanies cool. People who act cool, but they do it through being aloof so as to gain social power, are usually geeks in actuality.

If you can go anywhere, and hang out with anyone, then you don&#039;t need a bootcamp period. If you get extremely nervous or awkward anywhere, or with anyone, then you need to keep socializing as much as possible. Practice makes perfect, with moderate alcohol consumption generally being the fuel of that practice. Eventually, you won&#039;t need the alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By social bootcamp, I mean getting to the point where you are socially adept enough where you can easily befriend any stranger or group of strangers, if you wish, and don&#8217;t project undesirable or socially awkward/weird behavior. You have the ability to make people relax around you. Girls and guys actually seek out your friendship and company. Remember, girls and guys have to be on-board, as some guys are great with other guys but weird around girls. Its basically the process of becoming &#8220;cool&#8221;.  Cool is more important than fun, as you are not there to entertain. But fun usually accompanies cool. People who act cool, but they do it through being aloof so as to gain social power, are usually geeks in actuality.</p>
<p>If you can go anywhere, and hang out with anyone, then you don&#8217;t need a bootcamp period. If you get extremely nervous or awkward anywhere, or with anyone, then you need to keep socializing as much as possible. Practice makes perfect, with moderate alcohol consumption generally being the fuel of that practice. Eventually, you won&#8217;t need the alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m back and feel like exactly the same person&quot;

It&#039;s worse than that.  Unless you act different, everyone else will treat you exactly the same way they always have!  As if you didn&#039;t do anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m back and feel like exactly the same person&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worse than that.  Unless you act different, everyone else will treat you exactly the same way they always have!  As if you didn&#8217;t do anything.</p>
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		<title>By: bez</title>
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		<dc:creator>bez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once adulthood comes around, you notice people are placed into two categories: 1) Chump 2) Champ.

Most people fall into the chump category. Why? Ask 98.5% of people out in the world. They each have their own uniquely boring story.

Now, the interesting part... The Champs! What makes a champ? &lt;b&gt;Desire, Strength, and Courage.&lt;/b&gt;

Chumps have: 
&lt;i&gt;Weak desire:&lt;/i&gt; &quot;I wish I could bang that girl, but she&#039;s so hot...&quot;
&lt;i&gt;Weak Strength:&lt;/i&gt; &quot;I could do that if I really tried, but I don&#039;t want to make life more challenging/interesting than it is.&quot;
&lt;i&gt;Weak/No Courage:&lt;/i&gt; &quot;Do what??! You gotta be kidding me!&quot;

&lt;em&gt;bez&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.easycomings.com/2009/11/most-interesting-man-in-world.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Most Interesting Man In The World&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p>Once adulthood comes around, you notice people are placed into two categories: 1) Chump 2) Champ.</p>
<p>Most people fall into the chump category. Why? Ask 98.5% of people out in the world. They each have their own uniquely boring story.</p>
<p>Now, the interesting part&#8230; The Champs! What makes a champ? <b>Desire, Strength, and Courage.</b></p>
<p>Chumps have:<br />
<i>Weak desire:</i> &#8220;I wish I could bang that girl, but she&#8217;s so hot&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<i>Weak Strength:</i> &#8220;I could do that if I really tried, but I don&#8217;t want to make life more challenging/interesting than it is.&#8221;<br />
<i>Weak/No Courage:</i> &#8220;Do what??! You gotta be kidding me!&#8221;</p>
<p><em>bez&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.easycomings.com/2009/11/most-interesting-man-in-world.html' rel="nofollow">The Most Interesting Man In The World</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: traveling boho</title>
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		<dc:creator>traveling boho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris

When you say social bootcamp, do you mean the newbie mission? Or do you mean some kind of hanging out in bars and making friends with all comers kind of thing?</description>
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<p>When you say social bootcamp, do you mean the newbie mission? Or do you mean some kind of hanging out in bars and making friends with all comers kind of thing?</p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29349</link>
		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my career I have seen many come and go.

- MPM

&lt;em&gt;The G Manifesto&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/11/to-all-the-girls.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;To All The Girls&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p>- MPM</p>
<p><em>The G Manifesto&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/11/to-all-the-girls.html' rel="nofollow">To All The Girls</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: leena</title>
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		<dc:creator>leena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Virgle Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgle Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thoughts on game and how it changes you has been on my mind as of late. Post coming soon.

Oh yeah this guy.... clearly didn&#039;t have what it takes, but then again few do</description>
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<p>Oh yeah this guy&#8230;. clearly didn&#8217;t have what it takes, but then again few do</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Sagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Sagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I think that the original email is from a chick. It just doesn&#039;t sound like a guy at all. 

Now if it is from a guy, I concur with what others have said. Any meaningful change takes serious work and time. 

A good analogy is training. In our culture everybody wants to look ripped and huge for the summer...but they only have 6 weeks in which to do it in! Give me a fucking break. The guys and gals that are in shape most likely got to that level because of some gut busting hard work.

Lasting change is difficult. It takes dedication, persistence, and time. 

Good post Roosh!</description>
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<p>First of all, I think that the original email is from a chick. It just doesn&#8217;t sound like a guy at all. </p>
<p>Now if it is from a guy, I concur with what others have said. Any meaningful change takes serious work and time. </p>
<p>A good analogy is training. In our culture everybody wants to look ripped and huge for the summer&#8230;but they only have 6 weeks in which to do it in! Give me a fucking break. The guys and gals that are in shape most likely got to that level because of some gut busting hard work.</p>
<p>Lasting change is difficult. It takes dedication, persistence, and time. </p>
<p>Good post Roosh!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a lot of these guys haven&#039;t put themselves through the social bootcamp of going out 5 nights a week for a couple of years. They&#039;ve got a lot of catching up to do when it comes to just interacting with groups of people their age, and no amount of (mostly bad/useless) game advice from a book is going to cure their social limitations on a fundamental level. If you can&#039;t pull a Brazilian after 6 months, then I would say that something is off with the foundation. I&#039;ve personally seen a Brazilian 9.5 married to a guy who&#039;s education and looks would pull him a 5 here in the states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a lot of these guys haven&#8217;t put themselves through the social bootcamp of going out 5 nights a week for a couple of years. They&#8217;ve got a lot of catching up to do when it comes to just interacting with groups of people their age, and no amount of (mostly bad/useless) game advice from a book is going to cure their social limitations on a fundamental level. If you can&#8217;t pull a Brazilian after 6 months, then I would say that something is off with the foundation. I&#8217;ve personally seen a Brazilian 9.5 married to a guy who&#8217;s education and looks would pull him a 5 here in the states.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rookie</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/giving-up-on-the-game-after-six-months#comment-29342</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is typical of people in general. You could replace anything with learning game: after 6 months of [working out / investing / culinary school] I thought I&#039;d [look like a Calvin Klein model / be a millionaire / be Gordon Ramsey&#039;s favorite chef] but I&#039;m not so I&#039;m giving up. I&#039;m satisfied with my [beer gut / breaking even / cooking at Olive Garden]. 

I say great. Less dudes out there pushing game means less bitchiness from girls for me.</description>
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<p>This guy is typical of people in general. You could replace anything with learning game: after 6 months of [working out / investing / culinary school] I thought I&#8217;d [look like a Calvin Klein model / be a millionaire / be Gordon Ramsey's favorite chef] but I&#8217;m not so I&#8217;m giving up. I&#8217;m satisfied with my [beer gut / breaking even / cooking at Olive Garden]. </p>
<p>I say great. Less dudes out there pushing game means less bitchiness from girls for me.</p>
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