Going For Sex Early

Here’s an excerpt from Bang:

It took me some time to get comfortable with venue changing to her place or mine. I used to think not enough trust was established and there was no way she’ll let a strange guy she just met a couple hours ago take her somewhere alone, that I probably was going to murder or rape her. But this isn’t the case—if the girl thinks you are a murderer or rapist she won’t spend time talking to you. When a girl declines a venue change, it’s either because of logistics or because she doesn’t want to appear as a slut. The girls who do get turned off by your one night stand attempt are the ones who would take a long time to get into bed anyway. The attempt screens out those girls who aren’t serious about sex. Plus, having a sexual intent by using physical touching and the desire to isolate makes it clear that friendship is not in the cards. She will just walk away from you before settling into a friendship, which you are not interested in. Going for sex early is win-win: if she submits to your moves then you get laid, and if not then you can move onto the next girl without wasting valuable time.

Some of you are thinking that by only going for easy girls I’m screening out “good” girls who are worth more investment. I’d believe you but I already tried that—I tried going slow on girls I thought were more valuable than the rest, but it rarely worked out in my favor. I was either putting way too much work in it for little back, the interaction would end before I got sex, or the girl wasn’t as valuable as I initially thought.

I have much more patience with Colombian and Brazilian women because with them I’m rewarded for waiting a date or two longer. Our connection gets deeper, the intimacy is better, and generally I feel like the relationship is more healthy and not primarily based on sex. For some reason that type of patient mindset doesn’t serve me well with American girls. It’s better I just hit and quit with them, enjoying the quick casual relationship while fantasizing about a “real” relationship with a women who is more suitable for type of thing.

Of course there are exceptions and not every American girl is permanently damaged for all eternity, but it seems a lot harder to find relationship prospects in the States than in South America. The odds are simply not in my favor. Going for a relationship with a girl who has had a few dozen large cocks before me just doesn’t make a lot of sense as I would be paying more for a product that has been at a heavy discount (or free) for so many years before. I could look for many years in America before finding something acceptable, whereby it would take a fraction of the time in a different country.

Bottom line is if she’s a whore then treat her like one so you’ll at least get yours instead of getting played in the process. And then the time will come where you meet a girl who is more needy with less cock experience. Sure she doesn’t talk like a porn star in bed but she’ll genuinely care about you and want to make you happy while overlooking your many flaws. Then you can slow it down and get to know her as a human being. But until you meet that girl, it’s in the best interests of your cock to get sex as fast as possible.

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    Treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady~ david x

    if a women is deep down a whore (the way she acts and dresses) but wants to be respected and treated like a princess, treat like the whore that she is!

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    basically if she aint fuckin you she’s fuckin someone else.

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    So you would not recommend going for sex early with a girl you see as a good relationship prospect? Why not?

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    so um anal on the first date bad, anal on the fifth date acceptable. Man I wish I had known this when I first got in

  • http://www.betaplease.com Beta Please

    “The attempt screens out those girls who aren’t serious about sex.”

    Best unintentionally funny sentence I’ve read in a while. Not that I disagree.

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  • Roosh

    3: Man’s ability to judge good relationship prospects is weak. But generally speaking she won’t have sex with you early if she is a good prospect. The point is whether to wait or not a little extra.

    My argument is that American girls will rarely turn out to be a good prospect and that waiting for them is unwise, so you should try to hit as quickly as you can to at least notch your belt.

  • http://recklessnessandaudacity.blogspot.com TAllagash

    to VK, if she’s brazilian, anal on the fifth date is waiting too long for some of ‘em.

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  • Giovonny

    “Going for sex early is win-win”

    Yup, Why waste time , money, or energy!?!?

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    Taking it slow with American girls is a weesh move.

    “I tried going slow on girls I thought were more valuable than the rest, but it rarely worked out in my favor.”

    I knew this guy that went slow with this girl and he ended up dating her. Part of the reason was that she made him wait a few weeks before swooping. He thought she was a “good girl”.

    I laughed when I found out two other cats I knew both swooped her previously on one night swoops.

    “I have much more patience with Colombian and Brazilian women because with them I’m rewarded for waiting a date or two longer.”

    Its true. Latinas get a pass.

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  • nathan

    damn roosh you just keep telling me exactly what i need to hear

  • Tampa

    I’ve gotten to the point where I just think they are all whores. The more years I live, the crazier and shadier shit I see women do. I was banging this one chick who had a boyfriend from out of town. Chick let me plow her the morning the dude arrived. Women will make you very cynical. In fact, women scare the living shit out of me. Nothing worse than being emotional invested in a whore; it will ruin you and make you jaded for years and years.

    So yea, you’re right. Just try to bed them and then move on.

  • Obey

    but aren’t brazilian girls more slutty?

    I heard they first bang when their like 14 or something. and they love anal.

    whats the deal here roosh?

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    I too would like to hear more about Brazilian girls attitudes toward anal. Is it like Muslim girls attitudes toward it (or american girls attitudes toward BJs), where it doesn’t count as “real sex”? Regrettably, I do not have much experience with foreign women.

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    Obey,

    Actually, American girls are more “slutty”

    Brazilian girls are more sensual and sexy and better in bed.

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    Floor 1 – These men Have Jobs

    She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

    Floor 2 – These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.

    ‘That’s nice,’ she thinks, ‘but I want more.’

    So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:

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    ‘Wow,’ she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

    She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

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    ‘Oh, mercy me!’ she exclaims, ‘I can hardly stand it!’

    Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

    Floor 5 – These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.

    She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:

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  • http://www.pregametime.blogspot.com/ Willy Wonka

    Yeah, Roosh, I agree. I used to treat the girls I liked as something more special and not try to bang them as earl as possible like I did other girls, but then they would usually see me as a nice guy or some shit, and I would never wind up banging them anyway. I’ve since learned to always try to bang as soon as possible, girls aren’t offended by a guy trying to bang, if they like you they expect/want you to try to bang, and any girl that actually does get offended by you trying to bang her, isn’t worth your time anyway, because she may as well be asexual.

    I’ve even tried to bang girls who were friends, some of them will actually let me bang, some didn’t, but afterwards we were still friends, they never got offended or bothered that I tried to bang them that one time.

    You really can’t lose by trying to bang a chick as soon as possible – it’s a win-win for sure.

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    This rang so true to me. One of my best friends, a natural, told me a story about a girl that he really liked, and “respected.” This guy usually takes it very quick with women, but in this case he decided to wait. He waited to make a move for three or four dates longer than usual. When he finally got it on with the girl she asked him why he waited so long? She was starting to think he was “slow” or a chump or just didn’t have any balls to make his move earlier… and she was starting to loose interest… Since then he never waits and goes for sex early, like usual. Coincidentally, he dates in the U.S.

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    Logistics and slut-factor. Handle these and the rest is pretty much plain sailing. Right on brudda!

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    Good read :)

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    Awesome.

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    It’s rumored that Brazilian girls would fuck anything American. That’s all it takes.

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    Man, we share the same logic as far as banging women early goes. On the first night if possible. I always proposition them the first time we meet. Even if they say no, it gets them so wet that they are ready to rape me by the 2nd date. I bet your friends are sceptical too, they think you are crazy. But we know the results speak for themselves don’t they!