When it comes to your pick-up success, should you go out with a guy better looking than you or worser looking? From the feedback I get, many guys want to go out with guys who are worser looking, but that’s probably not in their best interests.
The initial response you get from a girl is partly (some will say mostly) dependent on your looks. If you are a great-looking guy then you will get a more positive, warm response than guys who aren’t as good looking. It’s the nature of the game that better looking guys don’t have to work as hard.
Say you’re at a bar and standing with your good-looking wingman. Girls constantly check out the scene and will discreetly notice both you and your friend. If you approach a group, they will be slightly warmer to you because they know that your hot friend will eventually join the conversation. His attractiveness “rubs off” on you to give you better responses. If you’re wingman is unsightly they may respond more tepidly in the hopes that you don’t bring him over.
The rule that all wingmen should have is that the guy who does the approach has dibs on the hottest girl in the group. If you do the approach and your studly friend comes to join, you still get a chance at the hot one. Assuming your game is tight there’s a good chance you’ll still get her. I’ve pulled the hotter girl in a group many times when I was hanging out with a better-looking friend. I mention this because if you view your wingman as potential competition then you’re limiting not only your results but how hard you improve your own game.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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I have rolled with running partners that were better received by girls than me and ones that were worse received by girls than me.
I have done well in both situations.
If a guy is well received, you can pick up the fly girls through superior Game.
These days I go for Dolo: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/08/going-for-dolo.html
The best is when you roll with someone that has all the pieces of the puzzle.
My old running partner was like me, a complete Playboy.
The stuff we pulled off was mythical.
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Whether the wing is less or more attractive hasn’t been the issue. The problem I’ve experienced in the past is energy level and synergy. For example, the couple of friends that have been my wings in the past have very different styles and demeanors. One is like myself, funny, gregarious, and every time we hang we have a good time. Girls are naturally drawn to us and we pull very easily together. The other, I just can’t stand to wing for because he goes out with a laser-like intensity solely to pick up. For him, hanging out with friends is always secondary. While I admire his focus its just too intense. We don’t feed off of each other at all and as a result we work poorly together. He’s what I would call the textbook PUA nerd and can often be quite pedantic not just about swooping but everything else as well, food, music, politics, etc.
i think the variable in this is how good each person is at game relative to each other. i’ve gone out as the wingman for guys uglier than me, but with superior game. i think i only hindered them cause i didn’t know what to do.
I am looking at only attractiveness so consider everything else to be equal, more or less.
I do agree that I rather go out with an ugly guy that has great energy than a good looking guy who’s a cardboard cutout.
I hate when I go out with a friend who can’t hold his own. I used to feel bad, now I just tell them to sack up. Most of my friends are pretty savvy and luckily we have different taste in women, so we never need to compete.
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I have to agree that I’d rather take someone with high energy and synergy than I would someone who’s just good looking. My best man recently moved but we used to wreak some mad havoc. But the best wingman I’ve ever had is my brother. No competition, just brotherly love. It’s great too because we know how we both operate and conversate. An awesome wingman is hard to find, but when you do, it makes the night that much more enjoyable.
I agree as well on the synergy, but have to add respect. I also think the more valuable wing men are the ones you wing with the most.
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Was that a subliminal blow, motherfucker you know I’m pretty! You know back in the day I used to stunt double for Denzel. Have you seen my eye lashes?!?
Energy is KEY.
Nothing kills your state faster than some lame-ass who keeps on saying stupid shit like, “this girls don’t like us”, “those guys are better looking than us” or who won’t approach at all.
any strong preferences on a wingman vs. solo?
Yeah, solo almost always works better for me. Or if you want a real wingman, take a girl. By far the best wingman option.
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Worser? You’ve been living in the third world too long, bra.
UgSlayer: If women consider you an “artist,” you can basically rape and drug whomever you want because when you did it it was probably under some pretense of romance or art.
15: I think you’ve never heard of this thing called Google, bra. Next time you correct someone’s english it might be a good idea check to see if you’re right.
URF: I prefer a wingman but I’ve gotten so used to going out solo that even when I make friends with random guys i tend to ditch them to approach alone.
I think finding a good wingman is actually harder than getting laid.
There is no such word as “worser”. Is he “worse” looking?
Thanks for the replies.
15: bra? You’ve been living in the 80′s too long, amigo.
Another great post. This is exactly why I stopped going out with unattractive wingmen a long time ago. If your wingman is ugly, he will significantly screw up your chances of pulling a one night stand, seeing that most women are always with at least one friend that they will not split up with. If the friend thinks that your wingman is unattractive, she will do whatever it takes to make sure she doesn’t go home and be stuck with your unattractive friend.
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I find that alot of my great friends who wing with me become automatically cockblocks and do some AMOGing (either consciously or subconsciously).
I need to start flying solo.
Of course pick the better looking guy. Who wants to be seen with dorks, just so as to avoid competition? There will be competition at the bar, anyway.