American girls primarily pick their sexual partners based on feelings instead of logic. She fucks you not because you’re a good man who matches her reasoned compatibility criteria, but because you made her pussy wet with a cocky attitude and aloof nature. The problem with selecting sex partners based on feelings is that if she happens to get a bad feeling about you right after sex, she’s going to back-rationalize and find a way to blame you for it. You’ll be in for days of anxiety wondering if those bad feelings transform into the worst-cast scenario: a false rape accusation. You patiently wait for her to send a text message that you can use as rape defense.
It’s not uncommon for American girls to “flip” after sex and make a 180 degree turn once her emotional high of attraction comes down. She can go immediately silent, ask you to leave, start crying, or get angry. I’ve had degrees of all four happen to me, leaving me in a stressful state on how to deal with a girl whose feelings could bring the judicial hammer upon my head even though I didn’t do anything wrong. Should I be nice to her? Should I storm out? Should I have recorded the interaction with my phone?
The best thing you can do when a girl flips on you after sex is be firm and mature. In other words, act like a stern father whose insolent child is throwing a temper tantrum. Don’t escalate the encounter into nuclear war, but don’t lay down and let her get away with acting silly.
- If she’s being suddenly combative, say, “You’re acting immature and rude right now. When you’re done with your temper tantrum, let me know.”
- If she’s giving you the silent treatment, say, “You’re acting strange all of a sudden. Were you a virgin?” She will say no and then you can respond, “Well it sure seems like it by the way you’re acting now.”
- If she’s crying, say, “Crying after sex is not a typical response unless you were hurt. Did I physically hurt you?” She will say no. Then say, “Okay well let’s act like adults. If there’s something on your mind, you can say it. I’m not a mind reader.”
The message you want to send is, “I don’t accept the way you’re acting right now.” You’re not insulting her, you’re not escalating the encounter, but you’re insisting on an adult atmosphere where feelings without explanation are not permitted. In essence you are dragging her out of a child-like state and bringing her back into the adult world. If she can’t handle that, you should end the interaction.
The last thing you want to do is be weak. Women who flip after sex absolutely hate weak men, and like a piranha sensing blood in water, the weakness gives them permission to escalate. I believe that false rape accusations are done primarily on men who put out a weak signal that hints they’d bowl over in the face of an accusation. Women don’t accuse fighters—they accuse men who they think won’t fight back.
Keep in mind that there should be a slight hint of compassion in your response because, after all, your penis was inside her and there was obviously some sort of connection for the sex act to occur, but don’t let her get away with acting immature because she will milk it for all it’s worth. Appeasement didn’t work on Hitler, and it won’t work on American women either.
Live by feelings, die by feelings. When women let sex be determined by little feelings inside their tummies, they will inevitably pick partners that will make them feel regret afterwards. Unfortunately for men, the repercussions from her feelings can have real-world consequences. Be firm in the face of those negative feelings to survive the whimsy of her hamster brain. These days not only do you need game in fucking American women, but you also need to be a psychologist to deal with the unpredictable aftermath.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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Golden post. Stuff like this should be mandatory in every high school to instruct our future generations of men.
Your next post:
“Avoid American Women and Go for Foreign Women, If You Don’t Want to Go to Jail”.
You just compared American women to Hitler.
Gold. I should retweet this every three months like I do Roissy’s 16 Commandments.
I’ve only had one close encounter, but I accidentally handled it correctly. I wasn’t prepared.
The other close call I had was false “domestic violence” which I handled well – again, accidentally because I wasn’t prepared. She literally said in front of a crowd “…like that time you hit me.”
I’m going to write about both. Thanks for the inspiration.
I have to think that the best way to deal with this is to put an audio recorder in your bedroom (check your state laws first before doing this to ensure that one party knowledge is sufficient and DON’T put a video recorder in your bedroom). Then, the morning after, upload the audio recording to some service that time stamps your files (DON’T EDIT THEM). Also, establishing a “safe word” on tape may be good idea as well to show the cops that you were actively looking to prevent an unwanted “affection” situation.
I could go on regarding tactics here, but I think you guys get the point.
The future of game, covering your ass.
No need to worry guys, if you are actually clean the worst you can go through is some bureaucratic BS.
The Hells Angels have been accused of rape countless times by some psychos who came to search for trouble in the first place. Even if they definitely ain’t choirboys they got away 99% of the time.
Show her that you don’t give a damn when she is acting like the pyscho she is.
This is one of the most awesome articles written. The advice here offers you the best possibility to save you from a horrifying amount of trouble. It may not be enough so keep that in mind. Some women aren’t worth having any kind of a relationship with and an ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure. Sometimes you don’t know any better and get involved with a toxic evil insane woman and you need to minimize the damage. However, it is best to avoid toxic evil insane women. I’ll try to read Professor Mentu’s articles when he write them and suggest all of you do the same. You may not follow Roosh’s or Professor Mentu’s advice, but you better really listen read and seriously consider it if you know what’s good for you, the man in today’s USA.
As been previously stated, the only sure fire way to avoid a false rape accusation is to avoid American females all together. Thanks to the incredibly dysfuncional and screwed up society the USA has become, the feamles are sick as fuck and are walking around with worms in their heads. 60 years ago anybody who exhibited the behavior that we see today in women would have earned them doing time in the sandbox wearing a straightjacket. Seriously.
at 7 La mouette, who stated:
“No need to worry guys, if you are actually clean the worst you can go through is some bureaucratic BS.
The Hells Angels have been accused of rape countless times by some psychos who came to search for trouble in the first place. Even if they definitely ain’t choirboys they got away 99% of the time.”
Dude it’s only decent men who end up getting a false rape accusation thrown at them. Nobdoy, not even the legal system wants to fuck with the Hells Angles.
Having said that it might behhove all men to get more organized on such matters.
This is a good article but you must factor in that the system is no longer logical. The name of the game in todays “justice” in the usa is “Throw a man in jail, even if he is not guilty” There are many, many cases where a guy proves in court that he is innocewnt, but the gavel wielding fascist pig judge inprisons the accused anyway.
IT IS THIS that makes it so scary. You have to understand that ANY MAN in the USA IS A SITTING DUCK, period. Could be a jack booted goon with a badge willing to Rodney King your ass on the street, or some sick cunt deciding she is not resposnible for her decisions in life and throws a false accusation your way.
In the final analysis, this is a good reason to get the fuck out of what was once the USA and find solace in societies that are sane.
Appeasement didn’t work on Hitler, and it won’t work on American women either.
Best Hitler comparison in Internet history (being sincere).
Been there as well. Some broad said she was gonna tell the cops I raped her. We didn’t even have sex, just finger blast and handjob middle school type bullshit.
I always had to walk on egg shells with her bc she was such a lunatic.
Finally she sent me a text saying she was sorry she was gonna try to frame me for rape. I saved it and never talked to her again. Girls are bazerk
have you ever eaten a bean and cheese burrito before sex and then cut the cheese?
How did you deal with that embarrassing situation?
It needs it’s own blogpost…
My main trick for this is the good old Rogue’s Refrain (But it seemed like you wanted to … It felt to me like you wanted to …). If you’re not escalating before attraction and comfort, she’s dropped signs and hints for you, so don’t forget what those were. And if you’re rolling with buddies you can make sure they see and hear about the cues before you have sex with her. I would say definitely don’t just run off if she starts to turn on you, that just signals the hamster that it’s free to run whichever way it wants. Don’t show weakness, but don’t talk down and imply she’s immature either. Give the rogue’s refrain and the signs you got from her. Help the hamster justify the hookup like usual so she doesn’t feel bad about it.
Oh, and I wouldn’t fuck a girl from a Scandanavian country, that’s another part of it.
I guess one must go for same day lays and not exchange phone numbers for this to work. That being said, I have thankfully never been in a situation where a girl might scream rape. Hope that sort of thing continues.
If you guys are not familiar with it, read up on the incident with Greg Kelly, TV anchor and son of NYPD Commish Ray Kelly. See how easily a whore can damage your reputation and career with mere words.
and just like hitler nobody will believe what is happening, or do anything about it, until it is too late.
the real alpha males either run america as oligarchs, have left the country, or are locked up in its prisons.
all you game guys complaining about american women under assumed names on the internet, afraid of losing your feminine office worker cubicle jobs, are just waiting for the gas chambers. the definition of beta is sticking around america and complaining about it on the internet while you watch it go to shit.
Do what men are now doing in Sweden in order to avoid false rape accusations which are extremely prevelant here and have destroyed many men’s lives. Prior to sex film her consent statement with your smart phone and email it to your friend.
“The last thing you want to do is be weak…Women don’t accuse fighters—they accuse men who they think won’t fight back.” This is the most important part of any relationship, and no matter what other mistakes a man has made, he has to get this part right. Works for divorce, too.
-> David Lee Roth
You should read Hunter S. Thompson’s book about the Angels.
“Law” has never been afraid of fighting them, they are just hard to control when they all gather to go on a booze/LSD marathon.
The random dude should be more afraid of Angels than policemen or lawyers.
Most of them ended up in courts actually, even for petty things.
TL;DR : Hells are as vulnerable as you and I, just don’t provoke them if you don’t wanna to realise that you are actually a lil’ more vulnerable than them.
It’s for this very reason that I keep all texts/emails I receive from the woman post-sexual encounter. Let’s see how credible her rape accusations sound when I have a text from her singing the praises of my cock and wanting to know when she’s going to get more.
“J”, if you’re the “jesse” that just dropped that little nugget of wisdom over at UMan (just a guess – same style and rhetoric), we’d very much be interested in hearing your alternative.
In todays world, if a woman even THINKS rape without saying it at any point in your interaction, then it’s considered rape. Listen to what the late great Patrice O’neal had to go through: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95VOphBxktU
Off-topic, but the forum isn’t updating for me. I’ve flushed my DNS several times over several days, but I’m still getting the red announcement bar. Not sure what else I’ll need to do to alleviate this.
[Roosh: Your ISP is crappy... everyone made it to the new server. Try a proxy service like hidemyass.com or proxify in the meantime.]
And nowadays we have the accusations of “rape by deception.” Could misstating your income before sex = rape? Stay tuned…
@ professor mantu
you leave. that’s the alternative. but all i read from many of you guys is all the excuses for why you cant. you live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, yet money is the reason you cant get out.
even minimum wage jobs in the USA are dream jobs for 80% of the world. most of you guys are too soft to try it, but its possible to work a year at a couple minimum wage jobs and by living extremely simply save enough to live two years without working in most parts of the world, places where women cook and clean for their man and have never heard of feminism or date rape.
80% of the world would love to hold your passport. you’re sitting on the winning lottery ticket but are too bitch to cash it in.
Excellent advice. Roosh keeps it real, as always. The irony is that nobody here is out raping anyone, yet it’s important to be prepared if a female decides she wants to run you through the grinder for any reason besides actual rape. Just being accused of rape is devastating enough. What’s really hideous is that girls will actually play the rape card to fuck with a man with no regard to reality or the consequences.
What these women who come up with false rape stories or call rape at every turn don’t understand is that they are actually expressing a hatred of women. When you start calling trivial things “rape,” you diminish the suffering of victims of ACTUAL rape. Rape is taking the pussy by force. It is not sex that a woman decides she regrets after the fact.
@jesse I agree. I have lived in the US and abroad. Girls everywhere have their pluses and minuses. If you don’t like the situation where you are, then move.
I almost feel like some guys take the easy way our. American women may not be as easy as women in country X, but isn’t the challenging hunt part of the fun?
Two guys from my home state were at a party, one girl was all over them, kissing grabbing them. They took her to a bedroom had sex. She cried rape, they were arrested. Put on TRIAL even though all the people at the party said they saw her willing go. Even though both guys had the same story about her being willing.
They didn’t go to jail. But came damn close!
Too much power
Have to agree also, in allot of countries you could live well for a couple years on what you could save up working even average paying jobs in America.
Where do you get off giving tongue-in-cheek rape advice?!
@Fat Man– I too have lived in both the US and abroad and have dated both Americans and Europeans.
in regards to this: “but isn’t the challenging hunt part of the fun?” Absolutely it is. On average I get 6′s and 7′s in America and abroad I get 9′s and ten’s. I’m good looking and make over 60 thousand a year and am in my early 20′s. My point is that the “hunt” of hooking up with and spending time with a 9 who has a better personality than her American counterpoint is waayy better than hooking up with the American 6′s that I get.
The 9′s and 10′s I get in Europe really enjoy spending time with me and I enjoy spending time with them. I can’t seem to crack the 9′s and 10′s in the states. So am I taking the easy way out? I guess. But if someone is like me whose personality just doesn’t mesh with the type of girls he wants in the states, but his ideal woman jumps all over him in a different country it’s just a no brainer that I’m going to go to the different country.
One thing you miss the point on. The European girls who I’ve gone with who are better looking than the girls I get in the states are not “easier”. Their most certainly less perverted than their American counterparts, sweeter, and more feminine. It takes more work to get them than it takes for me to get the 6′s I get in the states. This is why I think your an American woman trying come off as a man. I don’t want to play head games the whole time I’m in a relationship. That’s what happens in the states. In Europe once you’ve won your girls heart she becomes your girl. She lets you lead, is happy to see you, and roots for you to do well in your endeavors. The hunt IS fun, but what’s the point if the prize sucks? The point is your hunting for a prize that you want. In Europe I get the prize I want. She’s on your team so to speak. Yea they might leave, but their not like the best looking women in the states who don’t know how to love.
@David Lee Roth
“Thanks to the incredibly dysfuncional and screwed up society the USA has become, the feamles are sick as fuck and are walking around with worms in their heads.”
Progestin/estrogen poisoning from FreeBirthControlPills(TM).
Makes women bloated and irrational, while demanding “NOM NOM NOM give me more pillz pay for them now NOM NOM NOM,” also gets peed into the water supply and hurts Western men’s T levels.
awful advice and lol at your examples of mature.
Hey, your tweet saying:
“I just can’t get on board the MRA crusade that women raping adult men is a problem. Don’t get drunk around land whales? I don’t know.”
The reason why from a PUA perspective you would want that is you would get valid double convictions for rape where both participants will be prosecuted for raping each other. They both wanted each other when they were drunk and so on. As a result, bullshit regret ‘rapes’ wont be reported, because men out of survival will get the woman convicted back. Maybe.
Good post and it show how vrazy thease gringas are getting.
Part of the reason false accusations are a problem is that they’re part of the larger “victim culture’ that’s evolved with modern feminism.
Women are now claiming that online harassment is a big problem, even though men have been getting “flamed” for years. The below Al Jazeera video is a good example of what’s at play here: making it seem as if any slight is some sort of “violation against women.” (Be sure to DISLIKE this video so we don’t get more.)
always covertly film your sex acts to prove it is not rape then post it up here for us all to see…
always covertly film your sex acts to prove their not rape then post ‘em hear for us all to see…
Much better alternative: Move abroad and stay away from American women. Done. And the quality of the ass you get will be higher with much less effort.
On average I get 6′s and 7′s in America and abroad I get 9′s and ten’s.
I have a question about this. If Game guys can’t get 9s and 10s in America who is getting them? Rich guys? Famous guys? Statistically, there aren’t that many rich and famous guys around (as % of the total population). Jerks? Who?
1) American Man- I’m pretty sure “Fat Man” and “Zak” from the previous thread are the same sock puppet. I.E. Dumb ass ‘merican bitch.
2)33- Hot Alpha Mom- This is the manosphere. I have seen women give advice on how to maximize their “winnings” in divorce court settlements against men. “Raping” the man for at least 18 years of his earnings and livelihood. I give a fuck about your outrage. Feel me??
3)43- Dean- Alpha males get 9 and 10s. You are 100% correct in your analysis. Rich and famous is less than .1% of the US population. So what is left then? MANY men who are of above average looks and treat women like dogshit. I have a close friend who can barely hold down a job. He is in his late 20s, he is an on and off drug addict (mostly on), and fucks some of the baddest bitches I have ever seen. They are not SMART, mind you, they are just hot, and young. Baltimore girls… which are 20X as easy to bang than DC girls who really aren’t from DC like most people here, they are imported for their fancy brain and busted ass pudgy bodies. Back on topic, my man is handsome, athletic, and has sick ass natural game. It fucking amazes me everytime we hang out. He is not a big tall dude, he isn’t even 6 feet tall but he works out, dresses well, and has 1000% confidence. He slays pussy from 18 (remember he is 29) to about 40 (he loves some hot-bodied MILFs too).
Again, goes from job to job, on and off drug habit, but this is America 2012. Women under 30 will let him smash all day. This is why this ship has basically sunk here, the USA. This is why foreigners laugh at us, and they have every right to do so.
most women are seriously fucking crazy. They are incapable of dealing with the ‘hole’ they have inside (no I am not talking about their sex holes). They are really fucking selfish because they don’t understand we guys have our own fucking problems to deal with.
No, I’ll never feel guilty just because a woman cries or any of that shit. I have done nothing wrong and I don’t give a fuck. I’d rather dump her. Women are constantly craving for drama fucking bullshit. 70 years ago it wasn’t like that, they had to deal with serious shit. Guess how many of them falsely accused their husbands of rape.
Seriously, it’s fucking ridiculous. Before I ever get married, I’ll think it over a zillion times.
I once said to a woman who flipped: “Don’t worry, I’m not mad at you”, which made her double the hysteria. Showing weakness/friendliness gives her full allowance to shit on you, no matter how hard you try to bring her back to her senses
I always try to create a post-sex alpha connection with women. It’s very effective to make them feel good about whatever sordid sexual encounter happened. I also find it’s good to set up the expectation in advance so that they don’t cut and run while your man seed is still dripping off of wherever it landed.
My classic is to offer up the promise of brunch at a nice restaurant. It works for me because it would probably be what I would be doing anyway and the cost of brunch is no biggie for me. But it can be as simple and inexpensive as sharing a cigarette after sex or driving her home on your motorcycle. The reason I do it is not to avoid false rape accusations but to make sure that her message to whatever social circle she is part of is a positive message. Girls are competitive about men and you want the word to get out.
One way I like to think about it is by imagining how she would describe it to her friends. You want to leave her with a really positive spin for her friends. A good rule of thumb is also to avoid doing anything that wouldn’t be a positive story for her friends. Girls tend to lie and exaggerate about men. You want the story to be: “We had sex six times and in the morning he took me to Fancy Restaurant for brunch. It cost $500.” or “After sex we sat on his deck and shared a cigarette while we looked at the stars. He’s so romantic.” You don’t want the story to be: “He had a really small penis so I rolled out of bed and went home.” or “The sex was mediocre and he wouldn’t even share a cigarette with me.”
None of these stories are true of course (like false rape accusations) but based on my observations women will feel a compelling need to tell an exaggerated story. So make sure it’s a good one that will get you laid again with her or someone else.
Back on topic, my man is handsome, athletic, and has sick ass natural game.
Jay, awesome comment. Could you give just a few bullet points of what his natural alpha game consists of. I think I already know but I’m just curious. My guess is it involves a cocky as fuck attitude and alot of Kino.
These days not only do you need game in fucking American women, but you also need to be a psychologist to deal with the unpredictable aftermath.
And a good lawyer!
I am beginning to wonder if women are worth the trouble. False rape accusations to getting raped by the divorce courts.
You nailed the big picture. The guy is well-groomed and well-dressed, he works out, so he “looks” the part even though he is broke as fuck most of the time. He doesn’t give direct compliments ever, and I agree, that particularly for American sluts that is usually the kiss of death. But he will drop an indirect compliment within a few minutes of the approach. Kino starts within another 5 minutes sometimes less. He talks to them as conversationally as if he had known them for 10 years and doesn’t miss a beat.
I was at a concert with him recently and in front of us was a pretty hot MILF. She had brought her kid to the concert and he just tapped her right on the shoulder. “I love how you came out with your son to this concert!” She smiled, and that is where you know you have the in. He started throwing game on her with her son, standing 2 feet away! Constant touching throughout the concert. Got her number and she was texting him the whole way back from the show. By 2 days later he sent me a bunch of really nice photos of herself in lingerie she had sent him. This woman was REALLY put together even though she was in her 40s. I’ve seen him run this same basic shtick on teenage girls too. Find some inane situational shit that girls care about, approach and attack. Again, being a pretty good lookin’ dude stacks the deck in your favor completely so YMMV of course.
Roosh, let me just explain this to you- the reason why that happens is because you’re ugly and they regret having sex with you. I’m being honest…I’ve had the same experiences, I cried after sex because I was REPULSED with myself for having sex with a loser whom I did not find attractive. Also, didnt you boast on on of your blog posts about having held down a girl on more than one occcassion during sex? That IS rape Roosh.
The only thing a man needs to avoid false DV, false rape, false feminist bullshit by bitches with too much legal power and no accountability for how they use it in an insanely man-hating society is an air-tight set of anonymity precautions that you use from the moment you first meet her to the moment you break up, and a fucking pair of balls to be dominant over her in the relationship. Obviously, you need to be a details-oriented person and knowledgeable about what bits of info a private or police detective could use to discover your identity in the event a bitch accuses you of rape, violence, hurting her feelings to the police.
Put a crime scene photo of a naked partially decapitated chick (a 9, of course) around someplace where she’ll see it after sex. When she disgustedly ask what it’s doing there, say that it’s just your ex. Serial killer game: it not only gets the girls, it keeps them quiet.
Such a good comment!!
WTF? That is possibly the dumbest idea ever!!
@COCO, you feeling regret after sex is NOT rape. You’re a pretty disgusting individual if you would accuse someone of a heinous crime based on your irrational feelings after the fact. Rape is TAKING the pussy by force. Nothing else. Holding a woman down during sex is fine if she’s cool with it. Get your crazy emotional nonsense out of here COCO, nobody wants to hear it.
Whats worrying is the fact that the womens generate this frequently enough that Roosh has had the opportunities to work through different strategies.
What % of women are pulling this stuff?
Happy Nourouz Roosh Sahib.
You’re a fool if you think “talking” will prevent a woman from making a false accusation.
Keep a voice recorder and activate it at the time of intercourse. That should prove consent
This article would have been better named “How to deal with emotional upset after sex.” Just because a woman is upset does not mean she is going to go to the police.
Rape is an under-reported crime in the first place, so false accusations are less likely to happen than this post implies.
If you have actively and clearly sought consent, it is highly unlikely you will face legal trouble.
“didnt you boast on on of your blog posts about having held down a girl on more than one occcassion during sex? That IS rape Roosh.”
Links or it didn’t happen COCO.
Well, as someone who is going through this bullshit after 2 girls decided to press rape charges against me (5 and 10 years after the fact) and am currently waiting to go to court over it, I figure I am qualified to talk here.
Both allegations are complete crap. One chick says we had sex (which we didn’t) and the other was a fuck buddy that went mental after I got a girlfriend (that I’m still with 5 years later).
At the risk of sounding alarmist here, you’re not safe. Not from any of this shit. Bitches be crazy (as my g/f says) and it sucks that I’m losing my sanity over it. I’ve spend night after sleepless night thinking about this shit. Anger. Disbelief. Raw fury.
It’s all shit, and as a guy, theres fuck all you can do about it.
And if she does say yes to being a virgin and being hurt? What do you do?
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There’s just two words that’ll fix everything about it: Rape kits.
“Crying after sex is not a typical response unless you were hurt.”
It’s a very typical response to the changes in a woman’s brain chemistry while she’s being fucked. Then again, why would and 35-old wanker and a psychopath undertand anything about how NORMAL human beings behave.
@turbo. Rape may indeed be an under-reported crime and indeed i know of know acctual rape cases in my region, however I know three cases were guys have been falsely accused so one wonders where the statisticians actually glean there info from!!
‘Hamster brain’, no shit, man. How deranged for a bitch to agree to fuck and then blaming it all on the man.
‘It’s a very typical response to the changes in a woman’s brain chemistry while she’s being fucked.’
I thought women had hamster brains, but you have the brain of the size of a leprechaun’s brain. Kill yourself, idiot.