1-Go to night club road. I don’t mean the night club itself, but the roads that have many night clubs, since they are packed with young hotties. (Example: Nueva Cordoba neighborhood on Cordoba).

2-Pick a group of hotties.

3-Play with the Argentine ego. Say you want to know Argentina/Argentines culture, but don’t know anybody.
They will be delighted to include you in the group and introduce to anything. Pretend that you don’t know about Argentine “asado”, and get an instant invitation to an asado (on next days).

4-Once on the asado, play cocky (but not jerk) and funny, towards you chosen hottie. Act paternal, and with some subtle contempt, as if you were attracted beyond you will, but not conscious/willing to pursue it. They ever fall for it.
Hotties with real boyfriends will bring them to the party, so you can play safe on the ones without partner. They ever pretend to have a boyfriend. It’s cultural, but on this place they can’t lie.

5-Ask her for guided tour to the city. On it, make lot of questions, including “telos”. Do it with naturality. Award her with physical cherish each time she Include wine tasting (so she takes some drinks), ice cream (some girls reject it because of calories content, but most can’t resist). At this point, you created a bond, trust (because she is your guide), and know the telos location. Escalating is easy.

JLaw45

On a Good Note…knowing what i know I would take advantage of every opportunity socially and sexually with the ladies at your age. Hmmm…College!

On a not so good note…Ferrari and Aston Martins don’t really speak for themselves. They’ll get you attention from but…not seal the deal except with goldiggas!

I guess you’re still a young man! As you mature, you’ll get what we’re saying

You gotta study the game man, and i don’t mean the game that the stupid seduction community propagate, I mean learn from some naturals.

You can start with this for mindset:

The Black Philip Show – Patrice Oneal

http://gt-6.com/sdb/audio/8619-patrice-oneal-black-philip-show-hilarious.html

On a side note…Ferrari’s are good on performance but it will BREAK YOUR BANK on insurance and gas…so it ain’t worth in terms of investment unless you’re filthy effing rich! Kinda Hot Greedy Bitches! hehehe!

“But know this…Your Ivy League degree is not enough get yourself rich.”

Of course I’m aware of that. It does help a lot, though.
As for the corporate ladder thing, I’ve always planned some entrepeneurial goals for the future. The thing is, I need at least some capital to make that happen.

I can get that, along with a massive amount of practical business experience, in the corporate world. Less risk, and still plenty of profit.

@Chris:

“Life is passing you by bro, and your gonna have a sweet spot in age where you will have the chance to bed a certain type of woman.”

This won’t happen now, but there will come a time where I will confidently bed any type of woman I want, any age, any nationality, anything. I will mature, calm down, be less emotional around women, gain experience, and confidence. Combine that with a good career and financial success(which will help facilitate the stuff I outlined before) and I doubt I’ll have a problem.

“That spot tends to be where you don’t look or act like a college student/kid anymore, but your not too much older, either.”

I must be pretty lucky then. I’ve been told I look like a 31-35 year old man already, starting at age 17. Never had the babyface issue.

“Usually, most guys arent making a ton of money during this time.”

Steps 4 and 5 for me(profit) will peak around my mid thirties. I’ll have left business school at 26 or 27(28 at the latest), and my earning potential after that will only grow. I won’t be bill gates but I plan to be pretty liquid by then.

Granted, i see what you’re saying. I’ll have to make sure I stay in great shape.

“Every day matters until I look too old to pull the younger girls that I like (my preference is between 24-35).”

Money takes care of that issue. Get enough of it and you can pull 20 somethings well into your fifties.
Just don’t marry any of them.

“But every day matters until then, as I’ll never get this time of my life back. Don’t waste it waiting to make money. Get good NOW. Bed women NOW.”

I’ve tried to get better.
Since I became a freshman here a couple months ago I’ve come closer to woman than I ever have been before. Still never made out, but I at least found out what grinding was like(yes, I am that far behind with girls).

Alcohol has helped. I’d never touched the stuff before 2 months ago. when i tried some of it and got a buzz, I’d never felt as confident. Suddenly I could actually approach girls, even grab one and start dancing. It was like a brick wall had moved-I could never do a cold approach(even a lukewarm one) before.

That said, the whole chase has gotten old. I read this site now to get tips for the future(and rare instances in the present), but I’ve tired of the college scene already.

I’m bored of wasting hours in frats with girls who won’t talk to me.
I’m bored of texting chicks and never having them respond.
I’m tired of watching chicks I like give me lame excuses before i catch them making out with some other dude.
I’m tired of going out again and again(like i have been since middle school), and getting rejected again and again, and feeling like crap. I’m tired of trying to figure out why these girls seem so disinterested in me(I’m really not ugly).
I’m tired of being called a “nice guy” no matter how hard I try not to be.

I’m not meant for the game just yet-I’m too reserved and “nice” naturally as a person and I just don’t have the confidence to make up for that.
But I do have good grades, a great education and connections. So why not make the best of what I have?
I can come up with pickup lines, but Ferrari’s and Aston Martins speak for themselves(much louder, to).

Chris and Lol At Ivy League Guy is FRIGGIN’ RIGHT ON THE MONEY on their comments.

Lol At Ivy League Guy…that shit is inspirational! Now I really have no excuse at all now when it comes to women.

@Jlaw45

Dude, just finish your college. It’s an good insurance on getting a good job and being promoted in the real world.

But know this…Your Ivy League degree is not enough get yourself rich. Read the “The 4-Hour Workweek” or “E-mtyh Revisited”. Hell even read 50 Cent’s and Robert Greene’s “The 50th Law”. If those didn’t change mindset into a Entrepreneurial or Hustler’s mindset, i don’t know what will. That will your mind-view and world-view on how the really the world is.

Hey i’m with you on raising or at least trying to raise myself above my economic bracket. Nothing wrong with making our lives better you know. I agree with your priority no. 1 but no.2 thru 5…I don’t think so. In the “4-hour Work Week”,Tim Ferriss the author of the book calls this “The Differed Life Plan” It’s a DEAD-END! Hell even “Climbing the Corporate Ladder “is a DEAD-END! But finish degree unless you wanna end up like a bum in a street which you don’t!

Improving yourself with women, do it now Just like Lol At Ivy League Guy said! Nothing is stopping you. Not even yourself!

Being broke used to be my big sticking point…thanks to Lol At Ivy League Guy not anymore! hehehe!

Lol At Ivy League Guy you kick ass…well make that you kick ass in tapping that ass! hehehe!

Chris is 100% right. Never wait for anything to go out and improve. Money, your friends, whatever, just go out and do it. Money is important in life and it’s a good goal, but don’t be one of those people who waits to get rich before trying to get good with women. The problem with that form of thinking is that it’s coming from a position of weakness. (‘I need something outside of myself to get laid’, it’s totally fucking wrong!) I would take advantage of college as much possible. I bedded the hottest girl of my life when I had no money, and lived in a shitty apartment in a not so nice neighborhood. Her credentials? 26 and a a law student, so she wasn’t a loser by any means. I did pretty well in the year I was broke, in fact somehow I did better when I was broke then now when I have some cash. It came down to the fact that in my broke days, I had nothing to lose, and just didn’t care. So nobody can really tell me that you need money or status, to get hot girls. My response would be, well I did it, and I had jack shit. Did I have more desire that most? Probably, did I get rejected more than most? Definitely, but I did it.

I would argue that the reason rich guys and such seem to have success is not totally due to the money itself, but due to the confidence that the money gives them. The reality of it is though nobody should depend on something outside of themselves for confidence.

I’m addicted to comments now! Censorship sucks, though, really stands in a way of enjoynment, like fucking in a condom. But still good

I agree with you about the importance of money, to an extent, but waiting to make it to meet women is insane, and I believe that you will regret it. I used to feel the same way, when I was in my early twenties, and now I don’t.

Life is passing you by bro, and your gonna have a sweet spot in age where you will have the chance to bed a certain type of woman. After that sweet spot passes, it gets exponentially harder. That spot tends to be where you don’t look or act like a college student/kid anymore, but your not too much older, either. Pretty much the age between 27-35, depending on how fast/slow you age. I have a baby face, and so it took longer for me to reach that spot. A baby face can actually hurt game if you look too young. But now I’m in it, and getting women is like butter, with a little bit of game, in a way that its never been. And it has nothing to do with income, as long as you ca afford to go on dates and buy decent clothes. Usually, most guys arent making a ton of money during this time. Every day matters until I look too old to pull the younger girls that I like (my preference is between 24-35). But every day matters until then, as I’ll never get this time of my life back. Don’t waste it waiting to make money. Get good NOW. Bed women NOW. By the way, i feel so sorry for all of my friends that married early and are missing out on the variety that they could have had in this time of their lives. They just have no idea what they missed. That being said, they seem to enjoy their kids.

Ok, I think we can agree there. The degree can help if used properly when gaming a girl.

AS far as classist societies go, I ought to visit one someday. I know some Latin American countries are quite classist, but in places like Brazil my skin tone(I’m black Jamaican) could hurt me since blacks are considered “lower class” there.
One day I’ll give it a shot though-just got to make sure they know I’m an American and work from there.

@lOVECHILD:

“You sort have a point…but i’m coming from a Mature Spiritual Perspective. Those “Crutches” (Money & Status) are in the end…Superficial!”

That’s true, but the condifedence these crutches can provide is not superficial at all.
At the end of the day that’s all that matters.

“Anyones ego attach to Money & Status are lying to themselves and sooner they’ll feel empty and not completely happy. It’s like spending money on a hooker! In the end…you blew your load but you feel empty and numb inside after it because it’s just sex and there’s no love in it.”

Well sure, I’m well aware of that possibility. I’d love to actually find a girl I cared about(even at my young age) and have a real relationship with love and all that. It’d be nice.

Except it won’t happen. Why? many reasons, but bottomline I lack the confidence to execute game and get a girl. If I wait for the “love”(or whatever other substance is available in a real relationship) I’ll basically be alone for a very long timespan(decades to eternity, or somewhere in between).

As for the emptyness, I feel that now anyway. Sure, feeling empty after good sex devoid of love isn’t as good as life can get.

Feeling entirely devoid of sexual gratification (no girls, no confidence feeding lack of belief you can get girls, minimum contact with girls, consistent rejection and no sex) is worse. Much worse.
Add to that the fact that most of your peers don’t have this problem, and you’ve got a bad situation.
My choice? I’ll take the sex without the love over the lonely alternative, thanks.
Will I be “completely happy”? No. Will I be happy? Probably. I’ll take it.

“But in the end,If you up end up empty, unhappy and unsatisfied while having all the money, women, & everything!”

Better than I feel now.

“Being Happy and Well is more important than the Materialistic Consumerist Bullshit Values that Society Brainwashed on us!”

I’m at an Ivy now only because the school’s financial aid recognizes my economic situation. I grew up with enough financial issues to understand very clearly how important money is to your happiness and well being.

Society’s values with money may or may not be BS, but regardless its the society we live in.

“But get you values and priorities straight!”

My priorities…

1. Get a good GPA.
2. Get a good job in a field I feel good about.
3. Execute job as flawlessly as possible.
4. Profit.
5. Profit some more.

The women will come in somewhere between steps 4 and 5.
Does that list emphasize money? Well, yes, maybe a lot, but I know that if it didn’t focus that way I’d have no women and little in the way of happiness.
That’s how it is for some people-not everyone can be fortunate enough to derive confidence in the non-material/status methods you have. Some(for many reasons, some social/environmental) are better off doing it the way I outlined.

@ 90 Anonymous

You have a point. I agree with your explanation of the nature on gaming on high class social circles.

But basing your game on your Ivy League degree…come on! Even if that happens to you…that’s still just SUPERFICIAL!

Presenting naturally in a conversation that you’ve attended a prestigious and not even bothered or over-emphasizing it too much…i guess that could work.

But Chris and Bez comments are much more realistic that your own explanation man!

Money and Status is just an image, outward trappings that don’t even last.

I mean grow up guys!

@anonymous: “simply walk around Manhattan and you see he polar opposite â�� that its hard to see how anyone could take that seriously, and its interesting that it should appear in the Game community”

I would argue that it’s not so much the ivy-league education itself, but its role in displaying your socio-economic status that makes the any difference. If you’re a rich Manhattanite with a sweet pad in SoHo, with a degree from Pratt, I’m pretty sure you will get more poontang than your brethren who went to H-Y-P.

You know who gets the most pussy in Manhattan? Terry Richardson. He doesn’t even have a college degree, let alone have any connection with H-Y-P. He bangs models and takes photos of them sucking him off. Does he, or the models he is banging, give a shit about him not having a college degree? No.

Your HYP friends, if they get laid, aren’t getting laid because of their degree, trust me. They’re getting laid because the girls they are bedding are from similar backgrounds, and they feel more comfortable giving it up to a dude from a background they recognize, than some “PUA” from Montreal.

bez’s last blog post: Indecisiveness: The Cure.

I went to a private prep school in my area, and almost every one of my high school friends went Ivy League. I didn’t. Therefore, I have myself as a reference, in addition to a large pool of people who I know very well, inclusive of the intimate details of their love lives. Some of my close Ivy League friends are now doctors(3 of them), and others are reasonably well positioned attorneys.

Here’s the deal: None of it matters.

Almost every one of these guys, with the exception of one of my close attorney friends who studies game and is a bit of a Lothario, has no exceptional skill in attracting exceptional women. I’m the best of the bunch in that department, with my attorney friend as company.

One of my Doctor friends is absolutely awful with women, and married an unattractive one who he can’t figure out how to keep happy. She runs his life. We routinely give him advice, but it doesn’t help because he has no foundation, and he won’t change.

Another of my doctor friends, who has model good looks in addition, married a girl way below what he could have gotten with some game. A status obsessed, power hungry attorney with sub-par looks. She’s very smart, but completely unfeminine, and annoying as fuck.

My third doctor friend married a nice attractive girl, although she has plumped up since marriage and is a bit short (read: a future dumpy middle ager), but she essentially chose him. He has no game, and never had any. He’s just nice, and smart, which is attractive to many women. And I’m sure the Doctor status helped. He was was lucky to land a decent one, and hopefully she has a good heart. i really don’t know her that well.

I guess one out of three of my Ivy League doctor friends having a decent partner is OK, but it doesn’t warrant the conclusion that they have any exceptional power due to their background or position.

Here’s where the Ivy League Education does help: In being able to network with a higher class of woman in general, and being able to keep up with them and keep them engaged in conversation. For a smart guy, its important to meet women who are up to your level, as well. Thats hard to do, in any great number, outside of certain circles. But the rules of game still apply, and these women want to FEEL something like any other girl. Being smart and connected will buy your ticket, but won’t get you backstage. You’ve got to have game for that, unless you want to wait for some broad to choose you, and have no say in who that will be.

JLaw – yes, a degree isnt necessary to pick up hot women, and confidence is for sure far more important, but a lot of people have been saying that a prestigious degree has no value whatsoever in generating attraction in the opposite sex, and I think thats a naive and unrealistic attitude.

Theres a sort of meme that crops up all over the Seduction Community that education and intelligence are handicaps in getting women and girls all secretly salivate over thugs and jocks. Its such obvious bullshit – simply walk around Manhattan and you see he polar opposite – that its hard to see how anyone could take that seriously, and its interesting that it should appear in the Game community, because it is just another packaging of the *conventional* high school wisdom that girls go for jocks, when the whole point of Game is that it liberates you from that whole narrow and artificial perspective.

But this *crude* version of Game is in which intelligence is a handicap is something that needs to be thrown out the window.

Its not the education that does it – its not that girls find your thorough knowledge of the works of Shakespeare so hot – its that an Ivy League degree is a marker for higher social status and prestige, and well know girls like THAT.

You cant run around shouting – I have an Ivy League degree! – but when it emerges naturally in a conversation it almost always triggers greater interest and warmth and a perceptible opening up on the part of the girl. Ive experienced this too many times to have any illusions on this score.

It makes total sense that it WOULD based simply on the tenets of Game – girls are hypergamous, right? They are naturally attuned to markers of high status and that turns them on. Game is based on a recognition of this and shows men how to develop a personality characteristic of high status men – but status comes in many forms, some forms manifest in your personality, and this we can manipulate through Game, and some forms of status are more objective and less open to manipulation, but also a factor in being attractive to women, whether we like it or not.

If you ever have the ability to live overseas in a highly classist society, I recommend you do so, its an interesting experience – things arent essentially different form what they are in America, but they are thrown into stark relief and everything is etched in clear, bold lines. If you are not upper class, and cant display that in your appearance and demeanor, you have ZERO chance with quality women. Zero. No matter what your game. And the markers for upper class that you have to satisfy before a woman will even consider your advances have nothing to do with your personality.

Obviously America, with our egalitarianism, isnt quite like that, but the same basic principles apply, just in muted, attenuated form, and we would be foolish to discount.

All indicators of high status help – none are sufficient without a confident personality, but it is naive to think that those guys who are top dogs in their respective societies dont have a leg up with women. Basic knowledge of female sexuality tells you this.

@ Jlaw45

You sort have a point…but i’m coming from a Mature Spiritual Perspective. Those “Crutches” (Money & Status) are in the end…Superficial!

Anyones ego attach to Money & Status are lying to themselves and sooner they’ll feel empty and not completely happy. It’s like spending money on a hooker! In the end…you blew your load but you feel empty and numb inside after it because it’s just sex and there’s no love in it.

You’re still a young buck, so still keep on dreaming your dreams and live your life man! But in the end,If you up end up empty, unhappy and unsatisfied while having all the money, women, & everything! Don’t blame me! I told you so! Being Happy and Well is more important than the Materialistic Consumerist Bullshit Values that Society Brainwashed on us! Don’t be broke for Christ Sake! But get you values and priorities straight!

@ Jonathan!

You’ve just wasted your Ivy League Degree!
And you call yourself Intelligent and Educated Man? Puh-leez! I’d rather be Street-Wise and Experience-Wise College Drop Out!

Look all the top billionaires in the world they’re all college drop outs (at least some of them!) Wait a minute…why am i wasting my words on you!

To cut it short…YOU’RE STILL FRIGGIN’ CLUELESS IDIOT! YOU’RE SO DELUSIONAL…YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW YOU’RE BLIND!

You’re probably a Nerdy Ivy Leaguer posing as a Can-Do Alpha Guy! Hehehe!

Oh were not envious of you…honestly…most of us DON’T GIVE A FUCK about your Money or Status!

If you seriously define yourself just on your Money or Status then your more lower than lowest of the low (which is poor people!) plus you’re not a human being, you’re a hypnotized, brainwashed, clueless automaton who is unaware of who he really is and what he really wants!

@ Lol At Ivy League Guy

HAHAHA! Amen to that bro!

Yeah! those landscapers and mechanics are probably more Manly than these Ivy League Douchebags!

HEY JONATHAN! HOW ABOUT THEM APPLES!!!

(Hehehe! stole that line from “Good Will Hunting”)

I’m stating what I have observed from my experience being around Yalies and how a lot of people around here respond to them. I personally know a lot of good looking 20-30 y/os who can’t stand them. Does having an Ivy League education help? Sure with certain types of girls.

I’ve seen landscapers and mechanics with no college degree nailing hotter girls than I’ve seen any guy who I knew was a Yalie with. Were these chicks doctors, or professors? No, they worked regular jobs, but they were hot so who cares about their profession.

And to say that chicks dig an unabashed elitist just shows you are either clueless, or you only hang around in your ‘elitist’ crowd. Because to the 99% of women who aren’t in your super high status circle, you just come off as a douche bag.

Crutch? What exactly is wrong with a using money and status?
We all agree that confidence is indispensible with women.
Money and status(the things you call “crutches”) can provide confidence. A lot of things can do that-athletic achievement, the possession of other talents or even the ability to study and implement the game better-all it leads to is providing more confidence.
Whatever confidence any of you guys have is developed in some way. Judging from how you talk, you didn’t get it from growing status or wealth, but you weren’t born with it.

With that said, who cares where it comes from?

“Youre swinging to an opposite extreme when you say that an Ivy Leage pedigree has no value whatsoever in getting you girls.

All your story proves is that it isnt SUFFICIENT, but I dont think anyone said an Ivy League education is enough to get laid.”

Alright, fair enough. I was being a little inaccurate in my statement there. I’ll concede I’m not experienced in the game so I can be wrong about a lot of this.
At the same time however, I still think your confidence is a much more significant factor than a degree. An Ivy Leaguer with enough confidence can clean up as well as anyone else, but I’m not sold on the notion that his degree will actually be a big reason for his success in the game.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I just can’t see these young girls really caring very much about one’s education level-at that age they just don’t seem to think “status” much unless they’re dealing with a much older guy(who has some game to go with his status). That same Ivy Leaguer with the same amount of confidence(minus the ivy league status) can probably clean up just as well if he’d went to a state school-the lack of Ivy isn’t going to hurt him at all.
Even if it did help, it doesn’t seem like guys without it are hurting much.

I think the results(read: money, status) an Ivy education can create may be more attractive than the degree itself.

“Its like saying that since a hideous guy with boils all over his face who lives in rags under the bridge cant get laid using even top notch game, game makes *no difference whatsoever*. Of course game is not SUFFICIENT to get chis, but it is a big part of it.”

With enough alcohol, I have a feeling that even an ugly guy like that will get laid so long as his game is at an elite level. I think this statement is equating the two factors we’re talking about(game and degree) as equal in importance. They’re not-game is a much bigger factor.

“What confidence is with women is INDISPENSIBLE – you gotta have it, but it isnt on its own the be all and end all of female attraction.”

…but the degree is dispensible, which is all I’m saying.