At the grocery store I ran into one of the first Polish girls I ever approached. Five months had since passed. She asked me what I was up to, surprised that I was still in the city. I said, “I fell in love and got married.” Her eyes and mouth opened wide until I let her know I was joking.
I thought about that little encounter afterwards, particularly how my whole strategy with women for the previous ten years is to bang them as quickly as possible with the least amount of work and bullshit. I’ve created an efficient factory assembly line that is custom-made for fucking and almost nothing else.
I don’t want to go for daytime hikes or romantic walks.
I don’t want to go to museums.
I don’t want to dine in restaurants.
I don’t want to solve a girl’s problems.
I don’t want to go on little vacations to the beach.
I don’t want to spend quality time.
On any given night I want to have a couple drinks, a couple laughs, and then fuck. I’m so dedicated to this goal that one outcome keeps repeating: short relationships that usually die after the second or third bang. There are no hard feelings, no tears, just a silent, non-dramatic end that quietly fades from both of our lives when it’s clear that two fucks was all I wanted from her. Then I go out and find another girl who is similar but different enough to keep me interested in order to repeat the same process over again.
Have I lost a part of what it takes to be happy in a long-term relationship of mutual sharing and companionship? I’m not sure, but when you’re a man with options who can fuck as much as your dick can handle, you don’t lose sleep wondering whether you’re on the right path or not. When you have a solitary life in strange cities without friends, you don’t care for much more than drinking and fucking. The particular lifestyle I’ve signed up for is making it increasingly unlikely that a monogamous relationship will happen for me.
It doesn’t help that the more I become the man I’ve always wanted to be, the harder it is to find a woman who stimulates me both intellectually and emotionally. It’s as if my experience is pricing me out of the world dating market, which was best explained by commenter Begby a few months ago:
The supreme irony of it all is that as soon as you’ve [become accomplished] and met all of [your] goals that make you interesting, funny, strong, attractive, and alpha, you are going to be WAY better than any potential woman you will end up with. You will be dumpster diving for the rest of your life because no woman can really measure up to a fully developed man. It’s called penis envy.
Why on earth would you treat them as anything but disposable toys, to be used 3 or 4 at a time and then discarded in short order? They are all inferior to the self-possessed man, so why would we want to spend our lives with inferior people? You let them stick around long, and they start working to ruin your life and keep you emotionally unbalanced so they can control you. Then when you are worn down enough to give them some of that control, they feel they “conquered” you, and are no longer attracted to you.
When is the last time a woman entertained you for hours, made you laugh, said witty things that she made up on her own, etc? Like never? All they are good for is sex, and even that is boring after a few times with the same girl.
Men really did get the short end of the stick on this planet—having to bust our ass 24/7 in a misguided effort to impress people who are far inferior to us.
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There is something to be said about the equilibrium of being in a fun, healthy, sexually fulfilling long term relationship. As much as I walk around my office building thinking about bending over every hot chick i see walking past me, there is something thoroughly enjoyable about spending quality intimate time with a hot ass intellectually stimulating chick who likes to fuck. It’s nice to come home to a hot chick, a good mean, some sex and quality down time. Man can’t be chasing his whole life, it takes too much energy.
Heck, fucking really doesn’t get good until you’ve banged her out a couple of times anyways. The worse sex is always the first five times you tap it. I might have disagree about the virtues and positives of your lifestyle. It has a lot of perks, but total fulfillment and calm is not going to be obtained putting six drinks down a night and rolling over another hot blonde. There is a happy medium.
I know what this feels like. Five years ago, I could make it six months without getting bored. I could tolerate doing some of the boring couple crap, like going for brunch or walks. I would go out for a nice dinner. I would entertain them while they proceeded to rant about all the drama in their life. Now, I can barely make it six times seeing them without just fading away.
Sad thing is six months was nothing to begin with. That period has just declined as the awareness of my options just increased with age and experience. There was a time when the chase was exciting, but getting to know a girl was also fun. Those times are long gone. The former is and will always be there, the latter on the other hand….
“making it increasingly unlikely that a monogamous relationship will happen for me”
I feel pretty much in the same situation
But never say never! :)
How´s Fall in Poland, Roosh? Does day game on hot chicks still work when it gets cold?
The great leveler: aging. And also health. One is inevitable and the other you may not be able to control.
Eventually you might hit a point where you know the hammer is going to drop. This could be ten years from now though, or 5, who knows..
You see what happens when a star quarterback or boxer or whatever athlete stays in the game a bit too long.
It’s called entropy isn’t it?
My God, what a sad and pathetic life.
No friends, no accomplishments, no direction. Just hanging out, getting drunk, and having sex with sluts.
It’s hard because most the “good” women are snatched up when they are young and so the sluts and the feminazis are left.
“It’s nice to come home to a hot chick, a good meal, some sex and quality down time.”
Yup, plenty of married men would kill for that.
“My God, what a sad and pathetic life. No friends, no accomplishments, no direction. Just hanging out, getting drunk, and having sex with sluts.”
You just described the typical American male in his 20s, except for the sex part.
@4 Aging sucks for women, but for men…? our best athletes have long and prosperous careers (Bernard Hopkins, Nolan Ryan, Jack Nicholson, Sean Connery).
Women might be to close to nature to be as individuated as men. Like cats, they are mysterious when you’re a kid, but you learn all their tricks and they lose their power. Sure, you still like to pet them, but the mystery is gone.
I wonder if lesbians feel the same way about their bottoms/subs. There’s usually a ‘girl’ and ‘guy’ role.
i shed a tear for existential roosh :_(
Man don’t say I didn’t warn you. Game is a great equalizer. It’s worth learning and learning well. But it’s not an end in and of itself.
Banging girls night after night is pleasurable, but just like anything else pleasurable, it can become a destructive addiction. You’ve put yourself at real risk for STDs like Herpes or HIV, unwanted pregnancy , syphilis, etc , because you are addicted to the feeling of ‘conquering’ new girls , and you are deathly afraid of real intimacy.
Roosh I think you are afraid that the girl will not be ‘good enough’ for you. If this is true, it’s a deeply narcissistic and destructive perspective on life. I’m sure you’ve rejected at least a few girls who would have made good long term partners had you not had the psychological hang-ups you do. And now what you do has become an addiction — an end in and of itself.
I’m sure it’s just as much of an addiction for you as heroin is for me.
Heroin is great for laying down a vocal track , but you can’t do it for more than a few days.. You get a tolerance, waste your money, and soon it will not bring you happiness, only ruin.
Just like heroin (I should know , I’m a former user) , you cannot depend on using game to chase girls for meaningless fucks to bring you happiness. Eventually the ‘rush’ it brings your dopamine system fades, and instead of making you happy and getting you high, eventually it just makes you depressed, sad, lonely, and irritable.
Once you’ve spent all your money and time on it, you have nothing really to show for it except an addiction.
The most fulfilling things in my life have been:
1) My passions (producing music, studying neurology , etc).
2) My family (and spending time with them)
3) My girlfriend (of two years now, after playing the field for a few years)
There are some incredible things I’ve gotten from my current LTR. Although I don’t get the ‘rush’ of conquering new girls night after night, I’m fortunate enough that my girlfriend is sweet, kind, sexy, feminine (she’s a nurse), witty, is kinky in bed, and loves to travel and have adventures with me. We’ve traveled the world together, including to Lebanon and South America.
Things aren’t perfect, and my LTR is not easy. At times it’s been really hard, and it’s frightening to put yourself on the line (including your deepest hopes and fears etc) and risk rejection , but still , there you are , with a stronger relationship, travelling to a huge party in a different city this coming weekend.
I guess what I’m saying is that my LTR has been really hard. Psychologically, it’s been really risky and I’ve had to ‘get over’ my own ego. My girlfriend has had to ‘grow up’ and learn to stop acting naive. But the rewards have been immense. I never feel lonely. My girlfriend goes out of her way to please me. She’s adventurous and brings out the best in me, and I bring out the best in her.
Together we feel as if everything is as it should be, that I know that she’s there to support me and give herself to me , and she trusts me to lead us through life. I feel like a man who is complete, and she feels like a woman who is complete.
I think anyone who doesn’t really try having a ‘real’ LTR for a year or two is missing out. Falling deeply in love is one of life’s greatest gifts. Unlike heroin or meaningless sex, the pleasure of really deep love only grows.
Falling in love is transactional, and it’s pretty hard to do it when you have reached a high enough level that most women have nothing to offer that is valuable enough to warrant the transaction.
It has nothing to do with “letting yourself open up” or “being a ‘human being’” or any of that bullshit.
Roosh just jinxed himself.
Every time a guy I know finally gets the grasp of their ability to screw dozens of women consistently, they run into “The One” and develop terrible Oneitis.
I’ve seen it happen over and over and over again. And over again.
Let’s have a betting pool: I bet Roosh finds “The One”, develops terrible Oneitis, this site goes quiet…around February of 2012.
If she dumps his beta ass by August, he’ll come back. If she doesn’t, R.I.P. RooshV.com
Roosh, I feel for ya!
Years ago, I was advised by a pussy-getting alpha mentor – a Japanese kickboxing coach, of all things – on getting pussy. Haru was nearly 40 years old, yet he constantly entertained a bevy of young, hot & interesting chicks. Any dude would quickly wife up any of his castaways.
“Young dick is like machine gun,” Haru said. “Always shooting, always firing, never caring what it hits.” Haru explained that as we get older, though, our weapon changes. Men become snipers. We focus on one specific woman who interests us. We fuck them for a longer period of time than the notches on our bedposts. This woman sticks around longer than a throwaway chick because, well, she’s a prize (to be differentiated from the no-no of “putting pussy on a pedastal – I totally agree with you on that, Roosh).
Until now, I never understood what Haru meant. I’m 38 years old. I’m in a respected profession. I’ve bedded nearly 100 women. In my college years, my life was very similar to yours. It was fun. Exciting. But it’ll wear on ya. Pimpin’ ain’t easy for a reason, my friend! It takes a tremendous amount of mental energy, focus, patience and “game raising” to get laid on a regular basis (even though it can sometimes be effortless at certain times. So nice when that happens).
My present girlfriend turns a blind eye when an occassional “other woman” briefly steps into my life. She gives hall passes when I travel out of state. It’s not perfect – I wish I was more attracted to my girlfriend, actually – but it’s a good life. She pleases me on many levels beyond sex.
Roosh, you live a great life. I’d love to travel the world getting laid. But trust me, you will find moments of loneliness and emptiness; no matter how much pussy you bang. It’ll never be enough. And you’ll start hating these chicks, which is a horrible irony toward the path of becoming a great lover.
Consider becoming a sniper. I’m not saying settle down – NEVER settle down – but consider raising your weapon toward women you have genuine interest in. Ladies who are smart as you, funny, interesting, etc. Chicks you can actually hang out with. Groom her toward your lifestyle. If she balks, either let her go or become her friend (hanging out with girls I banged sometimes got me laid by their friends or acquaintances).
Just some thoughts. It’s time to change something up if/when you start hating these chicks.
Peace! Don’t stop rappin’!!!
uh huh. I’m sure your philosophy has nothing to with the fact that you fear opening yourself to an LTR and painful rejection.
Also, what about kids?
@15 “Also, what about kids?”
Man, fuck kids (no pedo.)
Ask any player, and 9 times out of 10 the person is a former loser and/or someone who suffered through one painful LTR before discovering game. These are the ones who are lonely and angry at women, despite all the pussy. They take comfort in their belief that surely they are happier than other men who have chosen to settle down, don’t have a number in the triple digits, etc.
Roosh has no friends or family where he lives abroad. His entire income seems to be based on selling books in which he writes about how to pick up women. He’s put pussy on a higher pedestal than he’ll ever admit to, but the rationalization hamster is strong in this one.
I hate to say it but you really just have not met the right girl. I always refused to believe I would settle down, enjoying a life of singledom. Then every now and then I meet a girl and it all just falls into place. It doesnt always last forever but I truly believe its better to have loved than lost as it’s so much more rewarding than months upon months of chasing tail.
You just havnt met that hot piece of ass that keeps you intellectually and physically stimulated. You may never. So it’s all good that you feel this way. But deep down you know you are kidding yourself.
“I’ve created an efficient factory assembly line that is custom-made for fucking and almost nothing else.”
Thats a beautiful sentence.
“My God, what a sad and pathetic life.
No friends, no accomplishments, no direction. Just hanging out, getting drunk, and having sex with sluts.”
Writing books as a location independent author is a pretty impressive accomplishment, isn’t it?
Becoming a world class seducer and seduction coach is a pretty cool direction, right?
Having sex with sluts is our primary biological function as men isn’t it?
What do you do for a living?
@12 Flyfresh is right, but for the wrong reason. It has little to do with the value a woman brings to the table. Rather, it’s simply having the freedom to choose the woman with whom you want to have a relationship. She doesn’t have to be your equal in looks, intelligence, etc… That is often a recipe for disaster, as such women are pretty much men in female bodies. They will compete with you, making your life miserable.
Having the freedom to choose your mate, and having her eternally grateful to be your mate, is the way of the alpha.
Lol at the haters.
“Haven’t met the right girl.” Where do you suggest he look in this post apocalyptic feminist wasteland? What about the 50% divorce rate? Or the fact that over half the adult age female population is overweight [and a third obese?] Should he “man up” like he satirized in a previous post?
RooshV, more of a man than any of you will ever be.
Seriously, stop sounding butt hurt. Yes, Roosh is probably a great man and you are probably a great person also but, while you say what you say chances might be that thats where the love of your life MIGHT come from. Never say never is my approach cause karma can be a bitch.
It’s funny how you guys claiming LTRs are great manage to stumble upon a blog about SEX and TRAVEL. LMAO!
Stop deluding yourselves.
It doesn’t sound like what you want, so don’t worry about it.
Down the road you may change your mind. And if you do, you’ll be equipped with the best judgment possible.
Just read an excellent post on krauser’s blog that is the perfect opposite to this.
You described truly fantastic sex a couple a posts back. Wouldn’t it have made sense to keep such a catch for at least a couple of months, especially factoring in that great sex tends to get better when the partners know each other better? In my books a fantastic lay is worth 20 medium+ ones.
I’m female and in an LTR and I still read Roosh’s blog regularly. In fact, I read Roosh/Roissy before I was in a relationship, so I don’t think reading a sex/game blog necessarily indicates that you’re unhappy/miserable in your relationship.
How about Little Egg? You did like her, she seemed to be at your level!
Why would Roosh waste his time with any of those sluts trying to make them good girlfriends. The only good reason to do that would be if he wanted children.
A new girl is always more thrilling and entertaining than an old girl. The complacency is as much an addictive drug as the conquest drug, but the side-effects are much worse for you. The complacency drug makes you a lazy beta and convinces you its ok, until the dumb bitch you’re dating dumps your ass despite all the “quality time” you gave her.
Are you LTR guys realizing how its a favor to the girls when we dump them. She enjoys precious drama and ‘gina tingles and can try out new cock.
If a girl was really worthy, she would recognize Roosh as her soulmate and do everything she can to keep him.
NEWFLASH: Women don’t believe in soulmates. They pretend they do because this serves as propaganda to create supplicating beta dweebs.
They want to enjoy sexual diversity, and many of them do. Then they even have the audacity to complain about how they need to keep it secret.
Marriage is not about love, unless a 20 years old wants to marry you (never happens in the West). Marriage is an economic deal.
Unless you train a girl, she’s usually not worthy of a relationship. I’m also a firm believer that you should dump a girl first in order to have her fall in love with you completely.
Roosh, I didn’t quite understand this post … Do you now think you’re too good for any woman? Why don’t you try to find a beautiful, smart, 20 y.o. virgin?
@23 I’m the anonymous who wrote #17. I’m a woman in a long term relationship who discovered Roosh because I’ve been living in Argentina for years, and one day through some random Googling about the country, came across some entry about Argentine girls. Not everyone reads Roosh because they take his blog as gospel. I read it because all the other bloggers I liked sold out and now only post about their book tours and public appearances. I like his travel writing the best, and look forward to more of that. If it doesn’t come, I’ll likely stop reading. This game stuff is getting darker and more depressing as time goes on, and some of the commenters sound just as miserable, which is why I find it hard to believe that men can truly enjoy this lifestyle on a long-term basis. So much anger!
sounds like a lonely, joyless and unhealthy life.
The man speaks fluent polish…
“sounds like a lonely, joyless and unhealthy life.”
The same thing could be described about a lot of people who are in marriages or long term relationships. The majority of people put on a proud face about their relationships even though they are dead inside. All for what? So that they can fit in and feel like they are doing the right thing.
I feel like this. I feel like game has costed me my humanity. That I should be better than everyone else. But, truly, I haven’t gotten to that stage. I’m pretty much just faking it right now. I flaked on a girl the other day, and I almost had a hard attack thinking about whether I’ll be able to see her again. It was so beta. I can’t handle the gambling, I can’t handle knowing that I could be making mistakes. At the same time, I’m losing my humanity, my sense of fear.
I think when we lose our sense of fear, we lose what it’s like to have emotions. We do things not because of courage, but because we don’t see the risk. It becomes ignorance.
@27 @31 What do you get out of reading this blog? If you all are so happy and content in ur LTRs I don’t see any point into a reading a blog about GAME.
I have read that men who spend their lives fucking and chucking end up feeling depressed and empty later on in their lives. However I am convinced that this empty feeling comes not from plugging as many vaginas as you can, but rather when a man has so much experience with females he understands their true nature. This true nature is no better described by non other then Esther Vilar in her 1971 classic book “The Manipulated Man” wherein she asserts that there is no such thing as love and that women only see men as a means. This is a bitter pill to swallow no doubt, but any man is better off alone than to play the role of human D-Cell battery to any female. This is the way it has always been, but there has been no other time in history where it is most obvious then today. But if you try to explain this to Joe Mangina Shit-For-Brians you will be met with all kinds of politically correct shaming tactics, including the very common sound byte “you’re just a loser that can’t get laid” But this is also to be expected. Men refuse, and I mean vehemently refuse to see things for the way they are, they absolutely need their fantasies; as Vilar stated in the very last line of her book, and I quote: “and man, that wonderful dreamer, will not awaken from his dream.”
You can read a freebie .pdf version of Manipulated Man, what should be called The Man’s Bible here :
#34 stated: “@32
“sounds like a lonely, joyless and unhealthy life.”
The same thing could be described about a lot of people who are in marriages or long term relationships. The majority of people put on a proud face about their relationships even though they are dead inside. All for what? So that they can fit in and feel like they are doing the right thing.”
Indeed. Most men are miserable as fuck and only put on a front. This also helps prevent themselves from committing suicide, although one has to wonder which is worse: being a piece of shit slave, or to free yourself via by taking your life?
A bit too extreme for me, Roosh. I am trying to stay in the golden middle. I won’t say that I don’t envy your lifestyle because it just wouldn’t be true, but still…
This sounds crazy but….
Don’t Know Everything!
Or even better…
You could become Gay? Then you get to Fuck and don’t have to deal with inferior people.
And you know what…to all the people who keep quoting divorce rate….
The 50% divorce rate factors in minorities and other religions (for some reasons jews get divorced a lot?)
You should check out the divorce rate for YOUR GROUP and then make up your mind.
The ACTUAL DIVORCE RATE FOR WHITES IS approximately 32%
Welp. That’s it. I suppose you are going to move on to dudes now.
Roosh, since when did your blog get infested with Beta’s and Bitches? I feel like I need a testosterone shot after reading these pathetic wimpy comments.
Calm down, man.
So only a 33% chance of getting ass-raped in divorce court instead of 50%?
As a cereal box would say, “Now with 17% less ass-raping!!”
You’re a nutter.
@37 Nik Thanks for the free pdf Im going to read it.
Sure…Long-term monogamous relationships are a no go and no one blames you for that. They are silly and against natural law. It’s sexual communism. However committed long term polygamous relationships may be the thing for you. What a pity that no society in the world (except islamic ones) permit polygamy. I say bring back polygamy. That way
1. Every woman who wants marriage will get it
2. Fertility rate will skyrocket as there will be more babies.
3. women getting married earlier and having kids earlier. Healthier babies.
3. Men busting their ass in competition to accumulate more wives. Economy improves as a result. In contrast to today where men bust their ass to learn game and look thug and accumulate a high notch count. Bad for the economy and society on long run
But I see two problems with monogamy
1. Majority of men will have no prospect for sex or progeny. High crime rate. Legalizing prositution may help some….but how many women will become prosititutes when marriage options exist for each of them with a high value male? Ofcourse she’ll have to share him…but they don’t mind….they’d rather share a high value man than have a low value man all to themselves.
2. the end of game. If every woman has marriage prospects with a high value male, that’s the end of liberal sexual behavior. That’s the end of high notch counts. Where the hell are we going to find cougars to pump and dump? Who the hell are we going to practice game on? In that scenario, if you did not get laid like a rockstar in college, forget about getting laid at all.
So all said and Done……polygamy would hurt the likes of you and me. So I don’t like it. Down with Polygamy
“Roosh, since when did your blog get infested with Beta’s and Bitches? I feel like I need a testosterone shot after reading these pathetic wimpy comments.”
This happens to every game blog after it starts delving into men’s rights issues, the depravity of women, the decline of society etc. These are negative topics and negative topics as a rule always generate more interest than positive topics such as game techniques, alpha-mindset etc etc.
I think a lot of men would kill to be living Roosh’s life.
And it’s interesting that a lot of people assume he lives a joyless existence and that only long-term relationship could bring him out of it. Too many people think a relationship is the key to making them happy.
Fact: Once you reach Roosh’s level with women, VERY few will keep you entertained for very long.
Ironically, people are asking him to “settle”, something many women are loathe to do (even when it’s probably their best option).
“Ask any player, and 9 times out of 10 the person is a former loser and/or someone who suffered through one painful LTR before discovering game. These are the ones who are lonely and angry at women, despite all the pussy.”
I love the armchair haters who think they hit the perfect critique on the head, but in reality miss subtle yet crucial insights that give away their own lack of experience and reveal the fact that they are bullshitting as to what they merely believe to be the truth and lack the hard won experience.
I assume that the above quoted poster is differnetiating a player from a natural. Because, of course, not everyone good with women was a loser by his estimation. And they certainly aren’t all angry. So, I’ll clarify for this genius that he means to exclude naturals from this definition, whether they be players or not.
Now, if his constant companion wasn’t his rosy palm, he’s know that whether you are a natural or a former loser turned player, you don’t get the necessary experience without getting caught up with women. No teenage boy is born with a natural player level detachment from every woman. That shit is always learned from real, live action experience. Always. Even the best players and naturals, as young and inexperienced men, would get attached to model level ass if it came their way, especially packaged with a cool enough personality. In relationships, reading game might get you in the door. But the real learning doesn;t occur outside of a relationship or constant interaction. However, I hold that it’s impossible to learn the jedi level game without at least a few medium term relationships.
It’s also illogical to assume that every man outside of this person’s definition of loser would necessarily lead a “healthy attached” LTR relationship lifestyle. Yet, does that lack of neediness always translate to anger and bitterness? Of course not. The entire logic of this guys/girls perspective is nonsensical from start to finish. I’m sure it felt good for this armchair LTR champ to hate a little, though.
“This happens to every game blog after it starts delving into men’s rights issues, the depravity of women, the decline of society etc. These are negative topics and negative topics as a rule always generate more interest than positive topics such as game techniques, alpha-mindset etc etc.”
What the fuck is an “alpha-mindset”?
If you have to consciously keep a mindset, then its not alpha.
As for the issues of which you speak, it’s all part of the same ball of wax. Awareness of the issues that you describe as “negative” actually directly and primarily reinforce the behaviors that you ascribe as being “positive”. Likewise, practice of the “positive” behaviors bring awareness to the negative issues through interaction with women and eventually the system built upon man/woman relationships. To pretend one exists without the other is to be asleep, defenseless, and likely not interacting with women enough. Now, whether or not you are skilled at overcoming the obstacles of men;s rights issues is another topic, but blogs/forums such as these are indirectly one of the most appropriate places to discuss those issues. Just my opinion.
Here’s the secret. Not everybody is the same. Roosh appears to have a very low need for familiar non-sexual human company and he’s figured out a lifestyle to achieve that.
When he wants something else he’ll try something else. Until then no woman can offer more than the allure of short term novelty.
“an efficient factory assembly line that is custom-made for fucking and almost nothing else”
That sounds like a McDonalds version of sex.
But then again, some folks like McDonalds and enjoy eating there.
The pattern of getting easily bored with girls/bangs will also apply to this lifestyle eventually. Just sayin.
Every midset you have now is a result of a consciously having practised or kept it in the past. It is due to this practice that at some point it becomes an instinct. After that point, you no longer need to consciously keep it. It becomes part of your psyche. As Roosh is well aware (being almost a buddhist), this is what is called a conditioned response. Those people who do have it unconsciously (naturals) usually have it because their earlier interactions with women were positive and sexual. Those of us who are beta are so because these ideas were drilled into your head from childhood. everything is a conditioned response. I don’t want to go any deeper into theory of conditioned reponses as it starts descending into metaphysics.
By the way what do you suggest people without an alpha mindset do? Shrivel up and prepare for lifelong celibacy? Fuck that. All mindsets need to be practiced and cultivated. As for discussion of MRA issues……I defer to Roosh’s opinion. It is his blog after all. I’ll continue visiting his blog as I like his writing
I’m just stating a preference. I sympathise with the men’s right movement to a point. they have valid points. But, I don’t like to discuss men’s right issues ad-nauseum for the simple reason that I have no bloody control over them. By the time they resolve themselves, I’ll be too old to take advantage of them to start a family. And to bring about a change in this issue needs co-operation from other men to form lobbies or pressure groups or whatever the hell. Game on the other hand, I have much more complete control over. Little or no co-operation is required from other men. All that is required is non-interference. Still, this too is just my opinion.
I’ve been a fan of Roosh for 5+ years, but I would not kiss his ass like some of the posters above.
Roosh transcending to another level and no woman being able to offer him anything of equal value anymore – really?
The guy has an entertaining persona, decent looks, a veiny cock (so he says) and a few other attributes which are good for a short-term fling – which is what women seem to want from him, anyway. He stops calling after a few bangs, but it’s not like they waste away while waiting for him to call, right? Sounds like a fair exchange that is good for both parties.
Truth is, women do want a few other things from life except riding the cock carousel. They want kids and a Dad for them, too. This is especially valid since Roosh is not in the USA anymore. So after having a few nights of fun with Roosh, the women also willingly end the exchange – not because they cannot offer anything of value to God Roosh. Here’s a thing they can offer – a womb to carry his children (which he says now he does not want, but that may change as the years go by).
Until then – bang away Roosh, respect!
“I’ve been a fan of Roosh for 5+ years, but I would not kiss his ass like some of the posters above.”
This. What is with the fanboys? I like the blog, but some of you sound like you live in your mom’s basement.
“women do want a few other things from life except riding the cock carousel. They want kids and a Dad for them, too. Here’s a thing they can offer – a womb to carry his children”
His children? Nah, the law says children belong to women. You just pay child support when she decides she doesn’t want you around or when you decide to replace her with a hotter piece of ass.
There are other ways to have kids without the financial & soul-sucking burden of a relationship. I’d rather get an egg donor & surrogate. It’s $20,000 outsourced outside the US but cheaper than 18-21 years of child support (to the tune of 33% of your gross income), and the kid belongs to you.
Getting married to have kids makes no sense in today’s world unless you have a harem of sister-wives.
My take refines as I age, but I think that a man reaching the level of game our author has, finds himself in the same situation as a woman who gets her Harvard MBA.
In the woman’s case, she finds herself with all the power and wealth that had typically been the sole province of men. She is drunk on this newfound power, but it comes with a bitterness. She is now unable to be attracted to those beneath her status, and this leaves a very tiny pool of eligible men at the top. These men are not looking for Harvard MBAs so much as 21 year old Brazilian swimwear models. So she is ensnared in a trap of her own hypergamy.
For a man learning game at the master level, he is suddenly invited into a world that used to be the sole province of attractive women: being able to get laid, any time, any where, with any one. Controlling the flow of sex.
At this level he realizes the true nature of sexual power, the true nature of women, and how non-mysterious it all is when broken down into component parts.
The average bar girl is no longer the mysterious, challenging girl that used to get the heart beating fast. She is another one that can be gamed like all of them. The more sophisticated women don’t want to be blatantly gamed by a player. They want it to be much more subtle and socially acceptable.
At this point, all you can do to increase satisfaction is to set the bar higher. Look for the harder-won, but far superior prizes. For instance, if I were in Roosh’s position, I might start suiting up like G Manifesto and honing the art of infiltrating high society, sleeping with women of great means from daddy or ex-hubby’s money, and helping her spend that money. Work the “former DC micro biologist” mystery-man angle. Imply that you are on self-imposed exile from the states, surveilled by the NSA. That would be virtuoso playboy level shit.
The higher you go in Maslow’s hierarchy the more you realize you can discriminate in the people and situations you are willing to accept. However, I am not arguing against the idea that no woman (or too few to mention) will stack up in value against a fully developed man. Just look to the scientifically-established IQ curve to verify that.
that’s why the greatest men the world has ever seen, have had many many top-quality lovers. It takes that many to equal his solitary awesomeness.
When boredrom sets in, raise the bar. Go high-society.
“By the way what do you suggest people without an alpha mindset do? Shrivel up and prepare for lifelong celibacy? Fuck that. All mindsets need to be practiced and cultivated.”
Okay, so can you explain this alpha mindset?
What I picture is some beta guy trying hard to look and be alpha. ironically, this often comes off as insecurity about his obviously natural beta personality, making the beta status worse. I’d much better tolerate and even enjoy the company of a secure beta than an insecure beta who is trying too hard. Ever see that short movie “Going to Prison” on Comedy central? When Beaderman is trying to look tough, but the other inmate instead points out that he looks like he’s trying to take a shit? That reminds me of what a beta looks like when trying to have an alpha mindset.
A better strategy is to work on the core components of yourself enough to where the inner alpha is developed, strengthened, and emerges as your natural personality.
Work out with weights.
Learn how to fight. Boxing and/or wrestling. Compete in actual bouts/matches to the point where you aren’t scared to do so and you actually win a few. Make sure you get punched in the face a couple of times to learn what it feels like and to learn how to take it and keep fighting. Is fighting necessary for a natural alpha? No. Is it necessary to kill the beta fear response? Probably. And it helps to actually be afraid of very few men. Learning how to fight will cool down a lot of baseline beta nervousness. Your personality will become more calm.
Say increasingly sexually nasty things to women soon after meeting them, slowly immunizing yourself to caring about her reaction. Be sure that you don’t look like you care when you say them, for the best result. This will kill both your fear of and pedestalizing of women. Especially when the first slut or three takes you up on your forward language and offers.
Practice not reacting to anything that gets an emotional reaction from others.
At the same time, don;t take shit from others who disrespect you. Physically / verbally dominate men. Verbally dominate women. Verbal domination has to occur without anger or care unless the challenge continues. Stay calm for maximum effect.
Do these things and you will develop a natural alpha personality instead of having to rely on a put-on mindset that will truthfully never really take in any deep way.
@62 – Betas won’t do any of these things. They’re too difficult. This is why I have no pity on a beta guy who knows what it takes to become alpha, but continues to be his beta self hoping for a different result with women.
On the other hand, I will take pity on a high school or college guy who has never consciously been exposed to game and recognized game for what it is – a learned skill. Many of these guys never had an older brother to show them the ropes, or if they did, the older brother was a dork that didn’t know them.
I didn’t have a brother or a father to show me the ropes. Additionally, I had the quintessential ‘nice’ mother who really believes that being a perfect gentleman is the way to a woman’s heart. Unfortunately, she doesn’t acknowledge the reality that even she doesn’t react well to perfect gentlemen. She’s attracted to toned down versions of bad boys. But that’s how I was raised.
I had to teach myself to be alpha, although it wasn’t a conscious process except with refining some behavior with women. Fortunately, I went through a lot of hard stuff that spit out an alpha in the end. Not the highest of the high, and not an absolute natural, but high enough, relatively. Especially in specific circumstances. Sports, fighting, and fighting sports were a big part of that, as well as getting into an out of relationships with alpha women who demanded and rewarded alpha behavior. The latter experiences I can’t see any beta or non-natural, who wants to be a true alpha, circumventing. All the pickup books in the world won’t teach it nearly as well as experience can. Guys need to get into relationships with the most naturally alpha bitches they can (who are preferably and usually the hottest), at least once or twice, and if they can hang in there for several months, after that every other girl is a cakewalk in terms of relating to her in an alpha manner. You may even overwhelm beta women. But alpha women will eat it up, because alpha men seem to be increasingly rare compared to the overall increasing rate of alphaness amongst women.
I can’t help but think that “The Way Of The Superior Man” by David Deida (an author who clearly influenced Roissy) would be a good read. I can’t help but relate some of the things you write to some elements of that book.
Esther Vilar has made one mistake in her book. Her assumption that women do not care for sex, that they just care to control men. She is wrong. Women like/need sex as much as men. If women truly were the way she describes, the PUA movement would be still-born. The kind of women Esther describes has no use for peacocking, negging, cocky behavior, alpha mindset, ….basically Roosh like activities. We know that is not true. Men like Roosh (and hopefully some day “I”) are able to control women reasonably well within certain parameters.
It’s quite obvious that many of these posters are bitter women. For some reason I don’t find myself giving a rats ass about some Sex in the City blog, but when the tides are turned they come in droves to bitch in the comments section.
+1 for roosh, he’s living the life HE WANTS to live, not the life society tells himn to live. Any of you ppl who are truly angered by this may want to have a good look in the mirror and ask yourself………… “am I happy?” That is, if you could actually truthfully answer said question
“What is with the fanboys? I like the blog, but some of you sound like you live in your mom’s basement.”
Roosh bans highly negative comments
A story I found on the internet:
Above-average looking friend (not George Clooney, but no uggo either) negs to the point of insult a girl who was already into him. She leaves hurt and confused. He walks away with absurd “alpha male” body language, looking like a retard. “Approaches” another smoking hot girl, LOUDLY asks if her nails are real. She ignores him. He then demands that she buy him a drink. She goes nuclear: “I am not interested in you at all. You are a creepy loser spitting lines you read in a dumb book. Go away.” I start moving in to rescue my friend, but it’s too late. He runs some stupid neg about her being weird, and she screams, “I said, Go away!” Bouncers are moving in, so he cuts out.
34% of my readers are women. Just sayin…
There are other ways to have kids without the financial & soul-sucking burden of a relationship. I’d rather get an egg donor & surrogate. It’s $20,000 outsourced outside the US but cheaper than 18-21 years of child support (to the tune of 33% of your gross income), and the kid belongs to you.
Way to set up your kids for future success in life. You know what’s in store for kids with no Dads, right – so how do you think a kid will turn out with no Mom? 18 years of baby sitters while Daddy brings home random ho’s of progressively declining quality. Woe to your kids.
Maybe if I get my gf to donate an egg (she’s hot and smart so I want her DNAs), then take the egg to the best hospital in thailand (in the container of ice , of course).
Then I get surrogate thai prostitute, preferably a fertile one at age 18 or so, then have baby born from the surrogate, and after birth, i have my gf raise it. Since it was born from another woman (and I’m never getting married), I probably have a better chance in court against child support buttzsh3x r4pe. . . but I do get my gf’s DNA and I get to use her as a mother for my child, but she can’t just up and take the child from me .
what’s the general opinion on my neat transhumanist plan? while i’m at it, I really ought to add a vector so the baby produces higher levels of Brain Derived Neurotrophic Factor (BDNF) so his/her IQ is 200+. Or… maybe I shouldn’t have watched ‘the lawnmower man’ while on acid…
You are a brainwashed feminist bitch to believe that kids in the sole custody of single fathers fare worse than other kids. Unlike kids of single mothers, I have yet to hear of any single fathers who had their kids beaten, molested, raped or killed by their girlfriends.
Numerous research shows that children that do not live with a biological father are 1000 times more likely to die.
We’ll see how your kids turn out when their mother supports a procession of cocks on your child support payment and tells them lies about you.
More & more financially successful men are choosing egg donor/surrogates & their kids should turn out fine:
It’s an old video, but I think it’s appropriate
Hey Roosh nice post. I feel the same way. Begby’s comment is over the top though. I don’t feel they’re “inferior” I just feel they’re essentially fungible. I practice a certain type of law and all of my clients’ legal situations end up looking pretty much the same after awhile. Same with women. Pretty much the same, some bitchier than others, some prettier than others, some with a little less hair on their pussies.. otherwise 95% the same.
AT #66 wqho stated:
Esther Vilar has made one mistake in her book. Her assumption that women do not care for sex, that they just care to control men. She is wrong. Women like/need sex as much as men.”
I apologize to be long winded here but this reply is for doesnotmatter but also for every man reading this page.
Doesnotmatter, I respectfully DISAGREE 10000000%. Firstly I suspected this be the case based on my experiences for many years after I hit puberty. At first I simply thought it was me that was unattractive, but in fact I´m an good looking guy 6ft.4inches in good shape good social skills. Secondly, many of my male friends who are equally or better looking still were not banging away without effort on their part.
But a real hard piece of evidence of Vilar´s assertion that women do not want sex as much as men do is cited in her book: why are there not as many male prostitutes out there? If one looks at that, then you have your answer.
One should bear in mind that most male prostitutes are usually being hired by gay men to fuck them, or being hired by aged women or seriously washed up cougars who simply need a boy toy to be seen with in public.
But lets get one variable straight. i.e. our target demographic: when we speak of “women” we are speaking of women in their prime, twenty somethings, looks range for 7 up to 10 (on the scale 1-10). Please lets exclude the females who are really old or too sick in this discussion ok?
So given this is our target demographic, here´s another question to ponder for men who think women want sex just as much as men do: How many young beautiful women in their prime send out for a male prostitute? Answer: very very little. If a female wants sex, all she need do is put on a short dress, go to any social gathering place, be it nightclub, restaurant, cafe or church social, and bend over; then simply wait for all the men to finish lining up to get her phone number. If a man goes to any of these functions with his shirt halfway buttoned down, you can expect nothing unless you are willing to have something else, i.e. money, sports car, resources.
When you state that women are simply able to control their sexual urges, it simply means the urge is not as much as in men if it can be controlled.
Vilar explains that there is of course the rare anomaly of the female nymphomaniac, but the problem is the media really over exaggerates just how many women are sex crazed. Take for example the famous magazine Playgirl, which was feminism´s answer to Playboy. I have a close colleague who used to work for the same publishing house in New York that put out Playgirl, and he clued me in on something. For years during the publication this magazine touted the readership of that rag were women. But the biggest guarded secret was that the readership were in fact, gay men. Famous male models like Fabio that appeared nude in Playgirl were probably having their images in the pages creamed as faggots jerked off to the centerfold.
Vilar states that women do enjoy and orgasms, but its not the most pleasurable experience for them. They prefer instead things more material, like a Gucci bag, or new pair of designer boots. I would like to add that if you offer today’s female a line of cocaine, watch her eyes light up like a Christmas tree and say “Lets go somewhere”.
I´m not tyring to dis you Doesnotmatter, but the evidence that supports Vilar´s position is simply to overwhelming. I´m no longer buying into the politically correct bullshit that is out there today. We are way beyond the looking glass.
I want to be on this level, Roosh.
Its been a year since i started game and Im learning not to care about rejections or whether a girl like me.
On to the next one!
I don’t want relationship. I just want BANG BANG BANG!
“but when you’re a man with options who can fuck as much as your dick can handle”
Most men have options without being aware of it.
“how many young girls send out for male prostitutes? Very very little”
hah! Are you kidding? A more accurrate amount would be “none” but otherwise a very good reasoning and logic on Vilars conclusion. Anybody who thinks women want sex as much as men do have been reading to many of the antiquated forums in Penthouse and Playboy.
And yea cocaine will always get most hot looking females wet between their legs and will do anything for a line.
Find a good woman who will bear you many strong sons. Be the alpha male who raises, protects, trains those sons. As your strength fades and your vision dims, watch your heirs carry your name forward.
That is why you deal with women.
@76 Nik……..when I say they love sex, I mean they love to get it from certain men……20%, alpha males…..they are just a lot more selective than we are. But once you are “that guy” in her eyes, her need for sex is much greater than men’s. Several men who haev learnt how to cajole a woman into bed can attest to this. Esther Villar may be correct for the 1970s. Those days women were taught to suppress their sexual desires. It is in fact that way in India today. They feel guilty about their sexual desires. However, wait another generation and see what happens. You simply cannot tell me women dislike sex when so many of them jump on Roosh’s cock with so little effort from him. But ask Roosh to come to India to plunder the local women. The women are ugly so I’m sure Roosh won’t bother, but even if they were good looking, he would need over a 1000 approaches to bang one woman. To paraphrase. Women do love sex but are way selective as to who they get it from. Sex with alpha male > shopping > cooking > several things > sex with beta male
Since the majority of males are beta, it does seem like women don’t like sex all that much. But put an alpha in front of them and see what happens.
Since you started throwing the insults around, let me respond in kind (not in my own words but with a quote from the article you cited):
“Statistics on single fathers by choice are few, but there are indications that while they make up a sliver of the demographic pie, their numbers are growing. Most of these men are gay.”
Let me just ask you this: is your surrogate mom going to breast-feed your surrogate kids, or you will feed them formula? You probably know the health pros/cons of both.
No use going on, let me say just this (applies to Roosh and all man): if you want to have kids, you will have to eventually get into a meaningful relationship with a woman, and you will have to find a way to not look at her as a bitch and a hoe. And this gets increasingly hard the more women you fuck (as everyone has noticed).
It was a pretty hard dilemma for me, too.
“..Esther Villar may be correct for the 1970s. Those days women were taught to suppress their sexual desires. It is in fact that way in India today. They feel guilty about their sexual desires. However, wait another generation and see what happens. You simply cannot tell me women dislike sex when so many of them jump on Roosh’s cock with so little effort from him. But ask Roosh to come to India to plunder the local women. The women are ugly so I’m sure Roosh won’t bother, but even if they were good looking, he would need over a 1000 approaches to bang one woman. To paraphrase. Women do love sex but are way selective as to who they get it from. Sex with alpha male > shopping > cooking > several things > sex with beta male
Since the majority of males are beta, it does seem like women don’t like sex all that much. But put an alpha in front of them and see what happens.”
Whereas i agree that being a spineless beta is not a good way of being in life, there are plenty of examples of wealthy men with a lot of difficulty getting female affection. It’s because these men are so socially inept that they’re stuck. So from this a lot of fantasy pushers try to convince the male populace that “look, see? money isn’t what they want.” BULLSHIT…
But a woman’s body and vagina is her currency. Women survive primarily by latching on to the coattails of men of resources. Because they have something we want: their pussies, tits and asses. What do women want? material things, and a gram of coke wouldn’t hurt either.
And I do stand corrected by the poster who responded to the question: How many young hot chicks send out for male prostitutes. I said very very few, but in reality the amount is NONE. This fact alone should make it obvious of the differences in the desires of the two sexes.
I believe too there was a follow up book written by Matthew Fitzgerald called “Sex-Ploytation” (came out in the 1999) where he gave homage to Vilar for her courage to write her book back in 1971. The author Fizgerald was no beta male cheese-dick, he was also an alpha guy; he was a professional racer at one point in his life. But he was also an astute observer of what really motivates females. He stated simply that “Feminism didn’t free the ordinary woman, it simply gave franchise to her greed”
Ok women do like sex as you stated, but not nearly to the extent men do, pure and simple.
Anything else is entertaining politically correct fantasy.
I have a friend who used to make low budget porn back before the media tech revolution. It was pretty much low budget although he was able to track down attractive chicks to be fucked in front of the camera, and I’m talking cum shot in the face and in the ass etc. Of course they got paid, the prettier they were the higher fee they recieved. There were no women that would be willing to be filmed fucking and not get paid, but he always had access to guys who would gladly do the chick and be filmed, and do so for free! That in it of itself should tell ya something right there.
There is not doubt in my mind that men like sex tons more than women do.
And if you look at this honestly.
This reads as sign of depression to me–
devaluing the chicks you do bang.
A pedastal is a lonely place to be wether you put yourself on it or are put there.
Sounds to me like you’ve fucked so hard your soul came out with your semen.
How’s it feel, Dr. Faust?
Sure the devil has Sex appeal and heaven is boring as fuck.
But I have a feeling hells not much better.
p.s In all seriousness have you thought about therapy.
I don’t mean this meanly.
I’ve had similar problems.
persued by a lot of people– men and women both.
Find few of them worthy.
Feel alone and dissatisfied with long-term.
Don’t like to be trapped.
Recently I’ve found great release in solitude.
Maybe you should become a hermit.
It’s possible you are physically addicted to the feelings of validation from short term sex and don’t want to risk LTR, because then you would lose self-imposed alpha cred.
Also way to remain above.
Also women not stimulating possibly because of what you’ve said
fucked too many.
but what drives one to fuck so many in first place
(beside obvious sex drive)
do you like to sky-dive?
-Under the Sea
All this pseudo-political-psychology bullshit
(jada jada but it WORKS UNDER, i’ve banged alskdjd chicks.)
Is the cure worse than the disease?
Seems like in this post, orwas itother
your whole Feminism ruins the world theory goes kaput.
Wouldn’t it be awful if you had to actually own up to your post-teen agnst? and incapability to have relationships, instead of just blaming it on big bad brother.
are you coming toward that thought?
“Theres no doubt in my mind that men like sex tons more than chicks do”
There are some good comments made here on why the above remark is true.
Here’s another very common example to add to the stack of evidence: When a guy says to another guy “I know this chick who I think you and her would really hit it off well.” the first thing the other guy says is “Really? So what’s she look like?” When a female says to another female “I know this guy who I think you and him would really hit it off well.” The first thing the other female says is “Really? So what does he do for a living?”
Think about it.
Wow reading this actually makes me see how happy I am, I am reading guys speaking about the game, and they sound like male versions of sex and the city.
Has the world really come to this, no wonder I get looks from men and women, I definitely do know something many ppl don’t.
Roosh, I like reading what I’ve read so far, but I get the feeling you as lost as everyone else, the male equivalent of the women that spawned that evil sex and the city.
How women followed her like some female messiah, when she knew as little as they did.
I see you as a male version of that, you have all these players following you, saying how content and happy they are, yet I see men trying to handle the uncertainty of life in a very artificial way.
I see men being the yang of the ying.
There are no answers, that is the answer, chasing after answer leads to sex and the city and to this.
I doubt many of the men here are happy, altho they admit it, you are just as unhappy as the married men.
“Here’s another very common example to add to the stack of evidence: When a guy says to another guy “I know this chick who I think you and her would really hit it off well.” the first thing the other guy says is “Really? So what’s she look like?” When a female says to another female “I know this guy who I think you and him would really hit it off well.” The first thing the other female says is “Really? So what does he do for a living?”
Hands down probably the best and most simple example showing the differences of who wants what from whom.
And idiots concern themselves with game.