Idiot Model Gets Taught An Important Lesson

I like teaching women lessons because I want to make the world a better place for men everywhere. If you got bitched by a girl but didn’t bitch her back then you’ve fucked over another man. Now he is going to have to deal with that same shit in the future since you didn’t take care of it.

Cockblocking is a good example. There are guys who don’t do anything when they get disrespected by the rude girlfriends, only ensuring that the behavior continues. Because of how I’ve handled these situations, I’m confident that I’ve stopped many cockblocks for guys in D.C. who I don’t even know.

Along this theme I want to commend Joe Francis, the owner of Girls Gone Wild, for teaching a lesson that has changed the life of a girl who made a grave mistake. If you aren’t already familiar with Joe Francis he’s known for being a dick. Check out this article from a couple years back.

Francis told the cameraman to leave and pushed her back on the bed, undid his jeans and climbed on top of her. “I told him it hurt, and he kept doing it. And I keep telling him it hurts. I said, ‘No’ twice in the beginning, and during I started saying, ‘Oh, my god, it hurts.’ I kept telling him it hurt, but he kept going, and he said he was sorry but kissed me so I wouldn’t keep talking.”

Rape or just proper bedroom technique? Scientific surveys says that 90% of rape accusations are fake, used by women to get attention or to annul slutty behavior. You should be even more skeptical of rape claims against a notorious celebrity.

Actually has a male celebrity ever been successfully charged with rape? With fame-obsessed women throwing their vaginas on them the last thing they need to do is coerce themselves on a groupie. For example if I ever get accused of rape then you know it’s bullshit.

Alright back to the lesson. Joe Francis was at a club recently talking to a random girl. That girl’s friend was model Jayde Nicole, who for whatever reason didn’t like what Joe said or did. Later while he was walking through the club alone, Jayde poured a shot on Joe’s shoulder. He then turned around, grabbed a fistful of her hair, and pulled as hard as he could, dragging her on the floor. Click here to watch the video of this incident.

And here’s a picture of the model:

jayde

Let’s do a little blow-by-blow:

0:07: Joe is walking through the club. Jayde sees him and outstretches her arm to get ready for the pour.

0:11: The shot is dumped on Joe’s shoulder.

0:13: Stunned, Joe looks around to see who grievously insulted him while Jayde retreats back to the bar trying to play off her involvement.

0:15: With a face full of fury, Joe grabs Jayde’s hair and pulls with all his might.

0:19: Joe gets jumped by men trying to defend the attacker’s honor.

0:30: Jayde stands stunned by the bar and needs to be consoled by friends. I have a feeling she didn’t expect his reaction.

1:02: Jayde is boo-hoo-hooing uncontrollably at the bar. Her friends are stroking her now-mangled coif.

Here’s what I think of the situation:

Bitch deserved it..

You can argue whether or not the punishment fit the crime, but as he did no permanent damage to her I think his response was more reasonable than not. It’s not like he pulled a Mark Wahlberg and blinded a man in an unprovoked racist attack.

If you don’t agree then I’m afraid you’re still drinking the feminist koolaid that teaches men that it’s always “wrong to hit a women.” Well it’s not always wrong to hit a woman. As a man who’s been pushed to the edge, I’m stunned at how deft women are at inciting violence, even when you’re warned them repeatedly to simmer down. I believe some women want you to hit them because they want to see you care, especially if you have an aloof, hard-to-read nature.

Do think Jayde would have attacked a man like that in a Middle Eastern country? Hell no because she knows she’d be murdered. I’m definitely not saying that’s what we need, but our culture has taught women that they can disrespect men without repercussion, and has taught men to accept that disrespect like little punks. Well there are men who haven’t bought that view and are making the world a better place by teaching women like Jayde that you can’t go around attacking men. I guarantee you she will never pour a shot on a man again in her life.

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  • http://vksempireofdirt.com Virgle Kent

    Some would argue that Jayde Nicole deserved it for simply dating Brody Jenner….. wait what, I mean thats what my sister told me because I do not watch The Hills

  • Lisa

    Well she also shoves him in the back of the head.

  • inSOMnia

    Dude remember my brothers party in College Park and the fight I broke up. The girl that kept beefing?

  • http://alliemarien.wordpress.com/ alliemarien

    rule number one: don’t start a fight unless you are confident you can finish it.

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  • http://notenoughtequila.blogspot.com Brando

    This is terrible advice for people who don’t want to do jail time! It’s appropriate to hit back when someone hits you, but escalating from a poured drink or shove to a full scale beatdown (particularly when you are much larger than the instigator) is a good recipe for criminal charges.

    Brando’s last blog post: Puerto Rico Trip Recap.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    I am glad you put up a picture of the girl instead of the guy.

    - MPM

    The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Hugh Hefner: Losing Ground Fast.

  • Cliff Arroyo

    “Hell no because she knows she’d be murdered. I’m definitely not saying that’s what we need”

    Like shit you’re not.

    If you like slapping women around, then at least have the balls to admit it.

  • The Rookie

    the man has balls

  • Christian

    I don’t know about hitting her but grabbing someone’s drink and pouring it on her would have been fitting.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    I just got back from a jog and I saw a Falcon kill a pigeon.

    I used to be the Snowman.

    Now I am the Falcon.

    - MPM

    The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Hugh Hefner: Losing Ground Fast.

  • Carl Sagan

    Hilarious.

    I agree. Bitch deserved it.

  • Chris

    That video is crazy. Check out all of the comments underneath of stupid bitches trying to say that spilling that drink was an accident…that alone makes me mad as a man, everything else that followed nonwithstanding. Spilling that shot was obviously deliberate as fuck, and that girl isnt innocent.

    Women are too emboldened by how pussy society has gotten. I’m not saying atttacking her was right, but when you attack a testosterone filled man with anything, even alcohol, then you’ve got to be prepared for the consequences. Anything can happen, and so don’t be surprised when it does. If a woman doesn’t want to be touched, then she shouldn’t touch or assault a man with anything.

  • http://chuckross.blogspot.com Chuck

    “I believe some women want you to hit them because they want to see you care, especially if you have an aloof, hard-to-read nature.”

    astute statement. i dated a girl for a while who eventually started trying to provoke me by slapping at me and throwing tantrums. looking back, i should have choke slammed her. i think she’d have liked it a little – or it would have given her justification to end the relationship. either way, i win.

    Chuck’s last blog post: Feminists Want to Kill Sports.

  • speakeasy

    I found it interesting how quick those guys on the sidelines jumped in. If I see a fight break out near me, my first instinct is to evaluate the situation, then decide whether I want to get involved in something that’s clearly not my business.

    As for hitting women, I don’t think I’d do it unless she was a serious threat, like say running at me with a kitchen knife in her hand. Then you gotta do what you gotta do. But no, I’m not going to stand there and box with a woman in a bar. Pulling hair is kind of gay thing for a man to do anyway. There’s other ways of punishing a woman’s bad behavior than beating her.

    Before I can say whether that girl deserved it, I’d have to know what the reason was that she did that. I just don’t have enough information here to judge one way or the other.

  • X

    To state the obvious, this incident was great for two reasons:

    1. Like Rooshv wrote, there was repercussion, though crude, for the girl.

    2. Joe Francis got beat down.

    -I’m surprised nobody has noticed the irony of the implication that Joe Francis is reviving culture in America.

  • Anonymous

    they’re both in the wrong. she’s a bitch and he’s an ass. imagine what he would have done if there was no one to stop him. chris brown anyone.
    an eye for an eye. nothing more, nothing less.

  • Zorro

    What stops a man from hitting a girl, even if she deserves it? Not feminist brainwashing; it’s the fact the he knows, and she knows, they are surrounded by horny, drunken white knights ready to pounce to her defence. Girls like that pick their fights carefully – there’s no way she’d have pulled that manoeuvre if a) she wasn’t hot, b) she wasn’t at the centre of a sausage-fest. Francis must have got a right royal kicking on the way out, but at least left with his douche dignity, and gave the rest of us something to cheer about!

  • http://ironrailsironweights.wordpress.com/ Peter

    Retaliation is acceptable so long as it’s proportionate to the original attack. As another comment notes, pouring a drink on the girl would have been fine, an aggressive physical attack was not.

    Peter’s last blog post: Tuesday, October 27.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    Interesting to note the terrible the girl – guy ratio in that spot Guys and Dolls.

    That place looks like it sucks.

    LA nightlife isn’t what it used to be.

    - MPM

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  • Travel bug

    I dont like the direction this blog is headed Roosh.

  • Chris

    A man would not ever think of dumping a drink on another man, without the expectation of a fist repeatedly connecting with his dome soon after. Therefore, men don’t do this unless they want a physical altercation. Women should have the same expectation, and shouldn’t be held to a different standard of behavior and consequences.

    Women should keep that in mind when they are feeling saucy like this girl did, and respect the fact that men don’t want to be violent with them. Respect means not physically taunting the tiger. Taunting the tiger, without the expectation of violent repercussion, is abusing the nonviolent social agreement between men and women.

  • http://roissy.wordpress.com roissy

    jayde has the look of a chick who likes to manufacture drama. those are mischief making eyes. she’s probably been coddled by beta orbiters for so long that she feels she’s entitled to be a bitch. as repulsive as she is, the white knighting of the tools around her was even worse. let’s see how willing bitches are to insult a man when they don’t have a standing army of chivalrous buffoons ready to jump to her defense no matter her guilt because they like the way she looks.

    I believe some women want you to hit them because they want to see you care, especially if you have an aloof, hard-to-read nature.

    there are a few reasons why women hit or humiliate men unprovoked. this is one of them. another is the safety net of male defenders who can’t help but suck up to hot chicks. and then finally, there is the reason that hot girls are so fed up with the beta males in their lives that they prod volatile men to violence just to whet their appetites for displays of alpha dominance. chicks get frustrated without alphas in their lives just like we men get frustrated with all the fat chicks waddling around us.

    a commenter at my site once wrote that women provoke men to violence because they view men as tools of power for them to wield. men are seen by women as extensions of the woman’s own power, like a pit bull or a gun would be to a gangbanger. it turns women on to use their beauty to manipulate men into acts of strength, even, maybe especially, when those acts sometimes backfire in their faces. or hair.

    a man should learn how to deal with violence-inciting women, as it happens more often than most people think. the next time a guy finds himself face to face with a woman who is egging on her male friends to jump him, he needs to have some game at his disposal to disarm this transparent female power move. i think public shaming is the way to go, but it’d be hard to pull off in the heat of the moment.

    roissy’s last blog post: Science Validates Game.

  • Carl Sagan

    I believe some women want you to hit them because they want to see you care, especially if you have an aloof, hard-to-read nature.

    I sent this video clip to Roissy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2sbw2_BnGs

    Just watch the first 2 minutes.

  • Anonymous

    i feel like in society today hot girls regularly do get away with these kinds of things because they have something to make up for it, being hot, which is arguable whether something should be done but when a gross ass mudturtle acts like that (and it happens) repercussions are completely necessary to put them in their place

  • static

    I believe Mike Tyson was prosecuted for rape…

  • Roosh

    ” I don’t think I’d [hit a woman] unless she was a serious threat, like say running at me with a kitchen knife in her hand”

    That’s what i used to think, but on a long enough timeline there will be a moment that provokes you to violence even when you’re not in physical danger.

  • Bez

    I’ll give the chivalrous crew the benefit of the doubt. If I had the chance to join a group effort to beat down Joe Francis, especially if I was stuck in a sausage feat like that, I would take it. Fuck the girl, who wouldn’t want to bitch slap that guy? :D

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  • http://capitalistliontamer.wordpress.com RF Interference

    I’m divided on the whole not hitting women thing. On one hand it’s a clear acknowledgment of the inherent physical differences between the two sexes and I think the rule has its place.

    On the other hand I see women behaving in ways no two men would ever interact with each other all the time, taking advantage of the fact that it is less socially acceptable for a man to strike a woman. They’re really the lowest class of women.

    If a guy pours a shot on another guy, gets in another guy’s face and screams at the top of his lungs, etc… he knows he’s going to get punched.

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  • Anonymous

    I came to this realisation a while ago. We’re all equals now. If a woman wants to slap me in the face, she’s going to get it right back. And after that, I guarantee she won’t assault random strangers anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I bet Joe winds up banging that girl.

  • Anonymous

    It’s also important to note that Jayde has a tattoo just north of her vagina that says “respect”

    Nobody follows what their tattoos say anymore.

  • Basil Ransom

    A better response would be grabbing her hair, pulling her face real close, shouting in her face, and then spitting. Logistically speaking.

    The point of physically responding to a woman is to humiliate her and put her in her place. You don’t fuck her up because she’s never a physical threat like a guy is, so there’s no need to down her.

    17 Zorro: Agreed. Even ugly girls get white knighted. Even the uglies that go out a lot have the sense of entitlement of which you speak.

  • speakeasy

    She’s lucky she didn’t do it to this guy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrS14kLwYW4

  • Anonymous

    everyone got what was coming to them, though it had the potential to get out of hand

    bitch got humiliated with minor physical assault

    the jerk got a drink poured on him, got a stomping and beating, and got sued

  • http://lovelysexybeauty.wordpress.com lovelysexybeauty

    Total drama queen… I think last week or week before on the Hills, she fought with her boyf. Brody over something… she walked out on his pool party ignoring him. He was like whatever, it’s my bday I’m having fun!

    I think this girl is a little extreme case thought… yes what she did was rude but she: 1) has shown a tendency for major drama on the Hills, 2) is with Brody Jenner, who is a total fameseeking attention maleh0. Brody dated Nicole Richie because it would get him good publicity, especially if he got her to eat (read about it, this was all Spencer’s plan), 3) seems like she wants to get famous too.

    Heidi on the Hills got more famous than the original star LC just by being a b*tch. Now Kristin the new lead is also trying the b*tch act. On reality TV being a b*tch gets you famous… I think she did that move on purpose so she could be the girl who spilled a drink on the GGW founder. I don’t think it was so spur of the moment guys…

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  • Roosh
  • GT
  • torchbearer

    I agree with Roosh.

    Losing your livelihood (i.e., getting arrested) is not worth it, but other than that…

    Jayde deserved worse than she got. The two should have been allowed to fight it out until one of them went unconscious or asked for mercy.

    I was in a similar situation once. A fat, drunk, obnoxious girl was making a bee-line towards the dance floor. To clear a path, she was putting her grubby paws on everyone in her way and literally shoving them aside. I saw her coming, and when she got to me, I slung her arm off. She turned, looked at me in disgust, then slapped me hard. While I was deciding whether I should escalate (I didn’t. Not worth getting arrested.), she walked away. Her friend then had the audacity to say, “What’s wrong with you?! You shouldn’t have hit her! She’s just drunk!” I replied, “She put her hands on me,” then walked away.

  • z

    Very interesting subject matter. The comments have also been illuminating.

    Has anybody noticed the phenomenon of “ladette culture” in England? The binge drinking and passing out in the streets of the young women there? I think many of these ladies are calling out in a primal way for men to “take them” and to give their lives direction and fufillment (both kinds of fufillment, physical and personal). Women like Jayde Nicole are behaving in an unfeminine way when they initiate events like those at that bar. Joe Francis is known to be audacious and forthright. Anybody who threw a drink at him would and should expect a response, and that response would not be a kiss. One would *anticipate* Joe Francis to react intensely. Only a young beautific female would walk around with the profound sense of entitlement to believe that there would be no reprecussions at all for this. As others have noted, she was counting on white knights and bouncers.

    Im not “defending” Francis or the degree of his response, but I’ll state this: Jayde Nicole doesn’t throw that drink, Joe Francis walks by and probably leaves the bar for the night and nobody gets hurt, no police are called, and no tears flow”.

  • Tarl

    Her name is appropriate. Jade (Jayde):

    Main Entry: jade
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: slut
    Synonyms: baggage, floozy, harlot, hooker, hussy, prostitute, slattern, tart, tramp, vamp, wanton, wench, whore

  • Tarl

    “What stops a man from hitting a girl, even if she deserves it? Not feminist brainwashing; it’s the fact the he knows, and she knows, they are surrounded by horny, drunken white knights ready to pounce to her defence.”

    Exactly right.

  • http://shinbounomatsuri.wordpress.com Spike Gomes

    Call me old fashioned, but I stand by the rule that due to the strength and size differential, that a gentleman should only ever use an open hand on a woman or child for discipline or to quell hysteria.

    (I really need to explain what a gentleman is and why it does not equate to “chivalrous” behavior as we understand it.)

    Really, though, if we’re to get classical, the best way to show utter contempt for her action in a manner that’s traditional is to spit in her face. It means quite a bit more symbolically than anything one can accomplish by pure force, particularly if one executes it right.

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  • Anonymous

    Here’s a better solution: Physical violence is not the answer. Regardless of your stupid theories that some women “want to be hit” here in America physical assault will land you jail time. If you don’t like a woman or don’t approve of her disrespecting you there are many different ways to remove yourself from the situation.

    A true, alpha male is secure enough in himself to walk away with pride still in tact after being disrespected by anyone. If the situation is sever enough, he can deal with it in a logical manner by seeking legal assistance. An alpha male would never lose control of himself by giving into his impulses that should land him jail time. You truly dropped the ball on this one.

    Lastly, you do realize that your last statement, “Do think Jayde would have attacked a man like that in a Middle Eastern country? Hell no because she knows she’d be murdered. I’m definitely not saying that’s what we need, but our culture has taught women that they can disrespect men without repercussion, and has taught men to accept that disrespect like little punks.” reinforces all negative stereotypes of Arab men, don’t you?

    Way to go, champ.

  • Eurosabra

    Oh, wow, that’s the Jayde Nicole who was on JDate a couple months ago…wow. Just the basic up-and-coming “I have my own jewelry line” model profile of someone who wants to make the transition from Daddy’s money to husband’s money…or maybe just a huge lawsuit against the guy she assaulted.

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  • Gio

    i don’t hit women but …..nobody is above as ass whooping if they deserve it…joe may have went as little to far but he knows that women love psychos..i think the raw animalistic display of power turns them on…but in general..dont’t touch women fellas…just call them on their bullshit!

  • Mateus

    A drink in the face usually works for me.
    The humiliation is much more unbearable than physical pain.

  • Maximus

    I have to disagree that it’s cool to hit women. Now I wholeheartedly agree that too many women get away with 2nd class behavior, but physically harming a woman just goes completely against man-law. In this situation I think a drink thrown at her face would have been more appropriate as it would have been an equal/slightly escalated retalition; not to mention the humiliation it would have caused and ruined her night ever further due to her makeup being tampered with.

    In my opinion, you’re a nothing but a bitch if you hit a woman. Now if a woman is physically attacking you that’s a different story, but even then you could easily just overpower and restrain her.

    Just my $0.02.

  • Anonymous

    Someone noted the “Respect” tat above her shaved twat. This is known, of course, because she was Playboy’s Playmate of the Year 2008.

    Oh, and Jayde Nicole isn’t part of the ladette culture of the U.K.; she’s Canadian, alas (I am, too.)

  • disgusted

    You are an ignorant idiot! Not sure if you spew this crap just to get a reaction, but myopics should stick to writing about what they know, it would take up a whole bunch less space!

  • Anonymous

    Proving yourself, or getting that satisfaction from turning the tables, isn’t worth a $1 million lawsuit and potential legal trouble, not to mention a 10-man beatdown.

    Did we learn nothing from Back to the Future 3? Even if someone calls you “chicken, McFly”, you don’t have to react to it…

    I only agree that she shouldn’t act that way, and should be discouraged from doing so. Maybe a drink in her face would be appropriate, but consider the ramifications of 20 Cap’n Save-a-ho’s eagerly bobbing around her. What is the payoff vs. price paid? Getting jumped in a bar for a payoff of… putting a stranger in their place?

  • http://lovelysexybeauty.wordpress.com lovelysexybeauty

    More I’m thinking about it, less I agree she learned a lesson. she’s getting press and news for this, which will help her reality TV career. I’m sure getting dragged by her hair hurt, but I think it’s cancelled out by her increasing her fame quotient. She’ll probably do more drama like this again.

    lovelysexybeauty’s last blog post: With Love to All the Sexy Beauties.

  • Roosh

    43: It’s not a stereotype if it’s true

    “but physically harming a woman just goes completely against man-law”

    Whether I agree with you or not, this statement comes from a man who was raised in a Western country. You realize this right? A lot of what we feel is moral simply comes from where we were raised.

    When it comes to violence there are no rules, and each situation must be evaluated carefully. Saying things like “never,” “always,” and “completely” are absolutely responses that suggest programming.

  • ChrisA

    Reminds me of a couple years ago when some friends and I were at a bar. A group of fatties came in to celebrate the head fatty’s birthday. The head fatty was already drunk and proceeded to grind/fall all over a friend of mine. He was patient at first but then finally told the head fatty to stop grinding on him as he didn’t want any STDs. She smacked him in the face and he responded by throwing a full pint in her face. Then my boy’s wife (who was a bartender there and saw the whole thing)drug the bitch out by her hair and threw her down in the parking lot. Got me hard actually.

  • Maximus

    “Whether I agree with you or not, this statement comes from a man who was raised in a Western country. You realize this right? A lot of what we feel is moral simply comes from where we were raised.”

    It does start with how we were raised, as does the core of anyone’s outlook, but we also obtain the ability to decide how we view things, regardless of culture and upbringing.
    As a man, it’s really your job to not lose your cool over petty crap like this, that’s how females operate. Some girl pours a drink on you, who cares? Let logic set in, repay the favor, give her a quick smirk and be ready to knock the heads of any white knight moron that decides to try and “save the day”. You don’t go to jail, leave with the upper hand and enjoy the rest of your night as if nothing happened.

    Regardless of culture and upbringing, violence in general should be utilized (for the most part) in pretty extreme situations, such as fending for your life. Losing your cool that easily goes against (yes, man-law) the essence of being an alpha male. A man or alpha male operates within logic and reason. Beta males and females operate by emotion, so if I were to let anger drive me to violence, I’d be operating more like a female than a man like I should be. This incident just reminds me of the kid in school who people picked on because they know he’d eventually snap if you told him enough jokes about his mom. Again, I’m no way trying to defend her actions either. I think she should have been taught a lesson, but I just think this was taken way out of context.

    And in regards to hitting women, why even go that far? If you feel the need to hit a chick that you’re with, just drop her and move on to bigger and better things. I’d argue that hitting her would imply that you care too much.

    In reality there are no rules for anything, but that’s where discretion comes into play.

  • Steve Johnson

    “A man or alpha male operates within logic and reason. Beta males and females operate by emotion, so if I were to let anger drive me to violence, I’d be operating more like a female than a man like I should be.”

    So so true.

    That’s why the most alpha guys are computer programmers and insanely emotional athletes are super beta.

  • Roosh

    ““A man or alpha male operates within logic and reason. Beta males and females operate by emotion, so if I were to let anger drive me to violence, I’d be operating more like a female than a man like I should be.””

    Sorry but this is completely wrong. You won’t get laid if you operate within logic and reason because women are neither logical nor reasonable. Just completely, utterly wrong. In fact it’s the most inaccurate comment on my blog since I brought comments back.

  • http://www.nytimes.com chic noir

    Roosh you’ve disappointed me with this post. yes the girl was wrong but pulling her buy her hair was more so. Francis should have thrown a drink in her face or had one of his female hanger-on’s to beat her up a bit.

    For all we know Joe could have very well said something to her friend that made Jayden (eg.. you’re a slut etc) want to protect her friend’s honor.

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  • Jack

    Even in the highest categories of martial arts and defense know that you do not fight unless you are threatened by physical violence.

    She poured a drink on him. This is not physical violence. In categories of gender equality of which you speak (which you all believe gives you the right to hit), both a man nor a woman have the right to physically assault each other in this situation.

    In all cultures, the wise man will refrain from violence. I remember your Buddhist interest, Roosh, and I am ashamed for you to believe that your passions of anger justify violence to others.

    This blog has turned too primitively ludicrous and distorted.

    I’ve followed this blog for over a year now. I will not be returning ever again, and neither will the other followers I have discussed this post with.

  • azuzuru

    What’s with the double standard? A woman can strike or assault a man, but a man can’t return the favor? I thought we were all equal now, yeah?

    Like most American men, I was strongly conditioned to believe striking a woman (even lightly) was a no-no under any circumstances. I now believe otherwise. Sometimes women deserve it, just like men sometimes deserve it. Obviously, I don’t support a blow that creates injury, just a modest cuff. (Still haven’t done it, but would if circumstances called for it.)

    Sean Connery, God bless him, said it best in this interview. Revere his alpha.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0

    [In this case, a much better response for Francis would have been pouring a drink on her head.]

  • Doug1

    A much better move on his part would have been to throw a drink (liquid only) in her face.

    I’d never let a jury I was on convict him of an assault or battery charge though, with that video.

  • Chris

    I love all of the females here (mostly “anonymous” but some others like chic noir) instructing men on what constitutes “Alpha” behavior. You truly have no idea, beyond what turns you on. Your notion is an abstraction. You have no clue what it takes to be a true alpha dog in the hierarchy of men. The inner psychology of a male, that is required for the outward actions of what turns you on about alpha males, is not the stuff of your imaginations. The inner sensitive poet, outward alpha dog, does not exist for the most part. You tease the tiger, you get bit. That comes with the territory when dealing with alpha men. Otherwise, you get some feminized hybrid. The fact is, no one should have assaulted anyone else with anything. Then the problem never comes into being. She started it with a physical act, and she has to be ready for the unpredictable consequences.

    Why the double standard? Feminists want equal treatment with everything, until they cant hang. You go back to a double standard for women when it is in your favor. A man would be pummeled by any man whom he poured his drink on. No hair pulling involved. At least Joe didn’t hit her. His being labeled as being “more” wrong (chic noir) in his retaliation is a ridiculous double standard. When do men get equal treatment according to societies standards?

  • Trotter

    Most women have the “Crocodile Hunter” mentality when it comes to dealing with men. You remember that douche aussie guy that would sleep with wild animals that would kill anything out of instinct. Well he played with the manta rays and lost. Seriously, what do you expect? You fuck with wild animals and they’re going to bite and at worst kill you. What about that guy that lived with the wild black bears. They ate his ass because he was a dumbass human thinking he could live with wild black bears. He got what he deserved.

    The same should be said for interactions between men and women. Women know that basically any man out there could pound their pretty faces in whenever they feel like it. So why provoke one. Just like the animal loving douches they had this false sense of security that “they know what they’re doing” and in reality don’t know shit. She fucked with a wild animal and paid the price. Everyone knows Joe Francis is a wild animal and she was stupid for thinking he wouldn’t retaliate.

  • Maximus

    “Sorry but this is completely wrong. You won’t get laid if you operate within logic and reason because women are neither logical nor reasonable. Just completely, utterly wrong. In fact it’s the most inaccurate comment on my blog since I brought comments back.”

    Perhaps you misunderstood what I was getting at. I never indicated that women were logical or reasonable, which is why you ditch logic and reason when it comes to women. When it comes to game it really doesn’t make sense, but it works, and that’s all that matters. If you try to make sense of women you’re just wasting your time. Does that mean you lose all logic and reason completely? Of course not. Naturally men operate within logic and reason and women within emotion. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible to operate some other way, but that’s simply our natural state of mind.

    I’m not even disagreeing with you on this one. I was more so arguing that the punishment didn’t fit the crime, but as always that’s open to interpretation.

  • http://www.nytimes.com chic noir

    chris Why the double standard? Feminists want equal treatment with everything, until they cant hang

    I’ve never argued that mena nd women are equal in raw brute strength. A commeter who went by the handle sara once wrote,
    men and women are equal but different. I agree with her 100%

    chris A man would be pummeled by any man whom he poured his drink on
    Had she thrown the drink on another woman what do think would have happened???

    She may have gotten her but kicked.

    You have no clue what it takes to be a true alpha dog in the hierarchy of men
    Actually, I do.

    chic noir’s last blog post: Republican Wins Virginia Governor Race.

  • Poester069

    I though women wanted equality?!?!?
    You treat them as if they were a weak little man that thew a drink at you and then slapped you in the head, you clock em’.
    For all you “mangina, save a hoe’s” tough guys. Go f**k yourselves, because that’s probably all the action you’re gonna get for your trouble.

    No, women want equality if it suits and then special treatment when it starts going against them.

  • Chris

    Best move would have been to buy a jug of beer and dump it on her.

  • someone

    “Rape or just proper bedroom technique?”

    Based on the paragraph you quoted, there is no question whatsoever that it was rape. Of course the woman could be lying, but if you take her account at face value (as you apparently did) then it’s obviously rape.

    I am shocked – SHOCKED! – that a PUA/MRA website would be defending rape. Again.

  • Nunyabizness

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6ul

    Hey Roosh, visit that link above, read the post, then tell me what you think of that incident? Should she have maybe grabbed a liquor bottle and smashed his stupid face with it? Maybe punched him in the nuts as hard as she could, squeezed them as hard as she could, or gouged his eyeballs out? Women aren’t the only ones guilty of initiating violence against men, you seem to have no problem with a man retaliating with violence against a woman who starts it, what about the reverse? And in response to Trotter: I’d be willing to bet that there are women who could pound your face in whenever they feel like it. With your smug, arrogant, superior attitude, who knows, that might do you some good.

  • Nunyabizness

    The above link doesn’t work so try this one:
    http:/blackpolitcalthought.blogspot.com/2009/11/lionel-mcintyre-columbia-university.htm

  • Nunyabizness
  • Nunyabizness

    Well, none of the links work. If you want to read about it you’ll have to google Lionel McIntyre.

  • Tinderbox

    Well, Jayde assaulted Francis without warning. Most of you didn’t watch the video closely and missed that she pushed or smacked him against the back of his head before pouring the drink over him. An attack from behind out of the blue, NOT in the heat of the moment or midst of an argument.

    The county DA agreed when declining to bring any charges against Francis, saying that Jayde “appears to have acted without immediate provocation”.

  • Anonymous

    “What stops a man from hitting a girl, even if she deserves it? Not feminist brainwashing; itâ��s the fact the he knows, and she knows, they are surrounded by horny, drunken white knights ready to pounce to her defence. Girls like that pick their fights carefully â�� thereâ��s no way sheâ��d have pulled that manoeuvre if a) she wasnâ��t hot, b) she wasnâ��t at the centre of a sausage-fest. Francis must have got a right royal kicking on the way out, but at least left with his douche dignity, and gave the rest of us something to cheer about!”

    Totally true. Francis doesn’t give a f@ck and that’s what makes him a man, he will risk an @ss kicking to keep his honor!

  • Anonymous

    “i feel like in society today hot girls regularly do get away with these kinds of things because they have something to make up for it, being hot, which is arguable whether something should be done but when a gross ass mudturtle acts like that (and it happens) repercussions are completely necessary to put them in their place”

    She got what she deserved.

  • N.O.Y.F.B.

    So wtf should happen to a man if HE initiates a physical altercation with a woman? It happens at least as much as the reverse! And to the idiots on here who say “she got what she deserved” you’re just a bunch of haters because no woman, pretty or ugly, wants anything to do with you losers.

  • Peter

    Men are said to be more violent, but women are given a free pass to hit and degrade men in public without any repurcussions. In films, women are always hitting men and the man must take it. I think he has some balls for taking revenge in front of modern guys. These white knights will gang up on you. That’s mostly why I’d take it. When I was in high school a girl pushed me so I grabed to her and threw her to the ground. The backlash from other guys and girls was insane. I was yelled at and severely threatened by girls (mostly) and guys as I hurried on home. I thought it was justified. If you fuck with me, I’ll fuck with you just a little more. I don’t do that anymore with girls just to maintain peace and an unbroken face.

  • blueberry sack

    #77 Yes they’re all losers because they refuse to take shit from women who feel like it’s their right/privilege to mistreat other people just because they think they’re beautiful and/or are female.

  • N.O.Y.F.B.

    WTF should happen to a man when HE initiates a physical altercation with a woman?!?! It does happen, at least as much as the reverse!!

  • Captain Chardonnay

    Respect yourself first.

    2 eyes for an eye.

    1 for revenge
    2 as a deterrent

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oc4BGmOp-A&feature=related