This clip is a follow-up to my recent post The Men’s Rights Movement Is Dead….
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Nice one Roosh, enjoying the videos…How long till you quit with the books and just start filming porn?
MRM will “succeed” when women want them to because it is based on convincing women to stop what they are doing because it is “bad for the society”.
MRM does push marriage strike but considering men already support women through mandatory taxation, marriage strike is a moot point. It might be just what women want.
Agree with Raj. You want to change the system? Ain’t happening as long as men continue to fund it.
good points . . . look for men who have what you want, and emulate them.
Trying to go any governmental route is a hopeless cause. Minor impact and you cant force shit on people. Much better to remove yourself from the situation and advocate by leading by example.
As suggested in the beginning of the vid with guys starting -
-location independent biz
-getting gf abroad
-traveling in general and bettering themselves
-getting in shape (and moving abroad:))
Anyway you crack it, the solution involves taking action, esp. in the place you have most control: your own life
Hate can be a good thing, esp. for SEO :)
There’s a simple but difficult solution to all this:
Men need to stop acting like pussies and take charge of their lives.
The MRM is a joke. They’re just another marginalized group of perpetual victims playing identity politics and airing grievances. They’ll never get the numbers they need because men in the mainstream are too disgusted by their constant whinging. And they won’t take any practical steps to improve their lives because then they wouldn’t have anything to complain or feel butthurt about.
I find it funny how they’re always bitching back and forth with the third-wave feminists, when they’re on the EXACT same trip. They deserve each other.
I have nothing against men learning game, becoming financially independent, and taking charge of their lives. These are all positive actions. The bitching and complaining online about how life is unfair because the Big Bad Feminazis took their toys away is…less than manly, to say the least. We have enough aggrieved victim groups in our society already.
Why MRM doesn’t work:
the SECOND a somewhat desirable female gives an MRA attention is the second he no longer cares about the struggles his companions are going through.
Cyrus: “Why MRM doesn’t work: the SECOND a somewhat desirable female gives an MRA attention is the second he no longer cares about the struggles his companions are going through.”
Aint that the truth. The very second a skag flirts with an mra – bam! All it takes is one whiff of pussy.
Love the videos, very engaging.
I don’t believe what will eventually shift the west back to a more patriarchal society will be any sort of social movement or political lobbying.
Men’s Rights Movement? They’re pussies!
They just aren’t doing it right. They need to have a Million Man March like in 95. I know cause I was there. You gotta fight the power for real. Forget pussy riot, we need a dick riot in DC.
Dude is your t-shirt way too small or you just wear it in this weird fashion which you think makes you look bigger?
In answer to the title of the post: its not dying per se but its not going to get anything done. They’re using feminist tactics to make change but that could only ever work for women. the government is not going to white knight these men
Hey Roosh I just purchased and finished reading in two days both bang and day bang. Fantastic books and information I never new existed. I am a beta with some alpha behaviors learned from my dad but then brainwashed by american culture/media to become a true supplicating beta. I knew about PUA for a couple of years but had no need for it I thought as I had a nerd girlfriend and figured I was set. Of course we eventually broke up with me somehow losing her to another beta….
I’m waiting to register on the forum and hopefully by then I will have done some of my first approaches, presuming I have the cojones. The closing comments in day bang were quite inspiring so I suspect I won’t have an issue.
@14 Wujek, the Tshirt fits fine… you don’t want to look like you’re wearing a trash bag.
You are pathetic.
Roosh, I’ll be right there along side you, congratulating them with “egg on my face” if they start putting points on the board.
I think the MRM movement is a joke, but at the same time, I wish them resounding wide-spread success. I’d even go so far as to say that I truly hope the day comes when I have to drop an apologetic post to the MRAs over at UMan.
Your videos rock.
Hey Roosh, where is Bang Ukraine already?
Dude, the world is waiting!
[Roosh: It's coming around winter.]
a book everybody should read, including women, but especially men: ‘Venus, the Dark Side’ by Roy Sheppard.
I am half way and learned a ton about how the world is becoming really fucked up as regard men’s right and how the law favours women
Man sometimes it’s creepy how some of you act like fanboys. Ridiculous. Now THAT isn’t manly.
I agree in the sense that the only real ‘control’ you have in this world …
…is over your own life.
That is where the solution lies: in your own external actions (improving your life) and internal motivations (material vs spiritual etc).
You can’t expect someone else to solve your own problems. Only you yourself can do that.
“Dude is your t-shirt way too small or you just wear it in this weird fashion which you think makes you look bigger?”
That’s actually the current style. That’s how it’s supposed to look. And Roosh looks bigger because he IS bigger. The hard work in the gym is paying off.
Hope you impregnate a totally psycho broad loser.
It is too bad that Roosh’s critics don’t understand what he is saying….
He is NOT condemning the concept of Men’s Rights and the need to overturn laws. The MRA fools think this is what he opposes, but he is not.
He is, correctly, pointing out : ‘what have you accomplished? Show us your progress’.
That is what he is pointing out. Either MRA’s don’t get it, or they don’t like it being pointed out that they are not getting the job done.
I think the MRM movement is a joke, but at the same time, I wish them resounding wide-spread success.
Amen. Their stated goals are admirable and crucially important…
But their incompetence in making any progress whatsoever (with the exception of a few like Paul Elam), is pathetic.
They just don’t understand this distinction. Their social skills are too pathetic for them to differentiate between ‘we disagree with your worldview’ vs. ‘we agree with your goals, but notice that you aren’t really doing anything to move them forward’.
Whatever. I like the Men Rights Movement.
And I agree with their appraisal of gamers like Roosh and Roissy: yall are short-sighted.
I mean that seriously. Roosh isn’t exactly young, but God bless ‘em, he’s still short-sighted. As am I!
It won’t do to pretend that we can wish civilization to hell. If you’re less than 60, you have decades to live to behold the drift of Western civ.
Take bloody responsibility and recognize what you do matters. Anyone around Roosh’s age or younger is fresh faced enough to help shape Western culture. Have the courage to shift it’s course.
Men’s Rights Movement? They’re pussies!
They just aren’t doing it right. They need to have a Million Man March like in 95. I know cause I was there.
Oh yeah? And what exactly did that Million Man March accomplish?
yeah man, id like to have, you know, more man friendly divorce laws. i got problems with a kid and all that. but some bitch boys circle jerking on a wordpress forum arent going to do that for me. and since them laws aint coming around any time soon, ima go out, drink some beers and talk to every fucking bitch that walks by. sept for the, you know, nasty ones. and i guarantee you ima fuck some of em.
game is like a hammer or a wrench. you decide what you want to do, examine how to do it, pick the tool for the job, get it done. thats what men do. we get shit done. we dont ask for permission. we dont cry when we bust our thumbs. that shit is for little boys and weak ass women. i wanna fuck, i see what works, i employ it, i get that shit done. simple. ITS LIKE HAMMERING NAILS.
picketing in front of the divorce courts dont work. THEY PANDER TO THE MAJORITY. and for biological reasons, females will be the majority. so fuck. you take what is available to you, make it work in your advantage. when men do that, then they change the social dynamic. then the bitches gotta change THEIR shit to get what they need. then they gotta pander to US. but you dont acheive that by crying with eachother and jerking off with tears and signing petitions and shit like that. the ONLY way you get that shit done is by changing your BEHAVIOR. behave in a manner that works the conditions to your advantage. and DO NOT BUDGE in what you have decided to do. after a while you will begin to DICTATE the conditions, to become one of the conditions that others must adapt to. thats how it works. not requesting a redress of grievances.
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The sad part is, people actually believe MRM is about banging women.
It’s about the retarded notion that smacking a bicth who punches you is deserving of being beaten to death by a bunch of white knight phaggots. It’s about people having no problems with women molesting children, but call for slow mutilation when a man does it. It’s about people actually believing objectification is a thing.
What’s wrong with opposing these things?
The MRM isn’t a real movement it is a social phenomenon. Every attempt at organization has failed. No one is interested in doing what needs to be done. It isn’t as hard as people make it out to be. All we would have to do is form local Men’s Rights Voter Leagues.
But for some reason, they don’t want to do it. Instead they want to cling to Elam’s counter productive registerher bs(a good idea in the beginning but de-evolved into an exercise of stupidity) and other non action.
P.S about Game
Roosh, you have to understand that there is different kind of guy’s(people), different neurological/sub-neurological types.
I personally find promiscuous behavior to be self destructive, atleast for me. You see, most people when they feel something is right for them they also assume it is right for others. It comes out of our desire to help other people.
So when one questions it, it is interpreted as a personal attack. But Mr.Roosh what is right for you may or may not be right for me, and what is right for me may or may not be right for you.
As a more hyper-monogamous type of person I would rather be alone then jump from one bed or relationship to another. It just feels dehumanizing to my own person and to the gal I would be using in such a manner.
My feeling of “right vs wrong” tells me that such actions are wrong.
Not everyone is capable of feeling ?right vs wrong”, most people only know “right vs wrong”. I guess it is the difference between the blank slate and rationalisms inner discovery.
If you want to see progress look at how feminists are trying to desperately rebrand themselves. I remember back in 06 when feminists ruled the mainstream internet. Now? Aside from feminist writers hired by the mega corporations, feminist thought has been all but eviscerated in most comment sections(aside from leftist bastions).
It is pretty lousy progress, but it is the best that can be done as long as older MRA(boomers and older gen x) continue to try and dominate the discussion.
Roosh, question for you: when I look at the history of game, in the 1900′s, a man could land a beautiful (skinny) woman in North America just by being a good man, having a good career, etc… Then the feminist movement came about where women started demanding equal voting rights, and then equal work rights, equal salaries, and they have now taken it to the point where they are always completely justified in being complete sluts, while treating men like trash, all the while being as entitled as ever, and constantly having instant justification from their friend-sluts for having “feelings” and for being “emotional creatures”, instead of actually being logical for once. Now, I know you’re an advocate of having good game, and of working out, and of dressing well etc. I do those things too (I want to get laid), and I have okay game, although I only approach after significant eye contact. However, don’t you sometimes feel like, by doing those things (working out, dressing well, having game etc), you’ve actually given in to the feminists, by being untrue to yourself, by degrading yourself to something that women now demand their man be like? I mean, if you lived in the year 1900, you wouldn’t have to work out, or have game, or dress especially well, you would just have to be a good man who works hard (similar to what you still find in some European countries). Look at the difference in what women need to do to be attractive compared to what men need to do: all women need to do, essentially, is NOT OVER-EAT, which will keep them thin, and then if they smack some make up on their face, have someone else do their hair, and put on a slutty dress, every man will want them. However, if a man now wants to be successful with these hyper-demanding women, men now need to be in pain at least 3 times a week at the gym for 2 hours (6 hours per week of pain), they need to dress better than the other men at the bar, and they need to put enormous effort, experimentation and study toward spitting good “game” if he ever wants to land a hot girl (unless, MAYBE, if he looks like Brad Pitt, and even then…). Anyway, my question, and at the same time statement, I suppose, is that, when I work out and dress well and go to a bar to “hit up girls”, even when I am successful, I sometimes feel like we, the men of today, are turning into the women of yesteryear, where they had to do work to be attractive, in order to attract a beta man who only had a good job and was perhaps somewhat handsome, and had no game. Now, we are the ones working our butts off, putting in all the effort, with many men even resorting to steroids because they’re so brainwashed by the demands of women that they think that’s what they have to do. Don’t you sometimes feel like they’ve already won? I mean, pumping and dumping, and hate sex, can only do so much to “get back at them”, when they’re the ones who already have all the power.