I used to try to last as long as possible in bed. I wanted to make sure the girl got hers before I got mine, and the reason I did that was because I thought she would be attracted to me more and want to see me again.
My former brand of condom made it very hard for me to ejaculate. I’d be pumping away for more than twenty minutes until she just got tired and then I would lay in bed with a heavy set of balls. Sometimes she’d finish me off with her mouth but sometimes not, and I remember times I had to go home and jerk off after having sex. It was humiliating.
Eventually I found out about thin condoms and blasting was no longer a problem, but I had to think of baseball or organic chemistry so I could at least hit the respectable 12 minute mark. I knew how to hold my orgasm by squeezing my pelvic muscles and would do that if I thought I didn’t go long enough, even though it would eventually result in a pitiful orgasm.
Gradually I just stopped caring, and soon everything I did in bed was for my pleasure only. The only reason I’d delay orgasm is to make mine better, and I pretended I don’t hear her the first time she told me to drill slower or not to go so deep. I did whatever I wanted because I came to value my orgasm as sacred, and her pleasure as second to mine.
Do you want to guess what happened?
Nothing. Nothing happened. Girls didn’t want to fuck me more, they didn’t want to fuck me less. Not caring about their sexual pleasure had no effect on repeat calls and repeat sex.
For guys all that matters is the end, but for girls it’s the process. As long as she gets into it and can say, “I’m getting fucked good and this feels great,” then you’ve done your job. Sure if you make her orgasm on demand you’ll definitely hear from her again, but it’s not necessary and just too complicated to worry about. Keep in mind some girls barely know how to make themselves orgasm!
Every now and then I get a feeling that I gave a girl an orgasm, but I can never be sure because I don’t ask.
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I’ve noticed that I cum quickly when I fuck ugly Chicks 5-6 and can hold of a good 10-20 minutes longer when I’m I to the chick. I’m beginning to wonder if my dick has a mind of its own. With the ugly girl he’s trying to get this shit over and done with, but with the attractive girl that’s fun to be around and good in bed he wants it to last much longer.
That said, what was your former brand of condoms? Can’t always fuck 7-9s right.
I think this is something every guy (read: non-beta) learns eventually. I feel this idea of putting your own pleasure ahead of others can be extrapolated to many other facets of life as well. You’ll find yourself the most successful and happy, by whatever standards you set, when you put your pleasure above others people’s.
Condoms usually make me go limp…but if the girl has a beautiful body and smells good AND has a SEXY MOAn..I can probably pull up a nut or two with a condom. If not, I have to cheat and pull the condom down a little so I can trick myself into thinking I’m going raw, then when my balls tense up and I feel the rumble of a nut coming on, I pull the condom off and glaze her.
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“Every now and then I get a feeling that I gave a girl an orgasm…”
If you don’t know, she didn’t. It always shocks me when guys ask. Dude, you would know. Not that this concerns you, but…
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I’ve found that getting her almost there and not letting her get it has a powerful effect on the female phyche that can best be described as a mix of confusion, anger, and love. I’d highly recommend it because of its entertainment value.
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Totally agree. If a girl can’t sort herself out then she’s got some issues. If she wants to bring herself off she can pin me down and ride me like a pony all the way to alabama if shes wants – otherwise she’s getting done my way :D
what happens if you pass out on top of her because the room starts spinning? So you don’t remember if she got one or not…. wait what?
VK, that “wait what?” thing gets funnier every time you do it. You should consider ending every sentence you mean to be funny that way, so we know we’re supposed to laugh.
If I want to keep her in my orbit I will shoot for the orgasm. It ain’t that hard to tell if she’s had one.
If you can’t tell if she’s had an orgasm, you’re obviously not very talented, and I doubt you’re able to give a woman one anyway!
one guaranteed way to tell if she came… her love juice shoots out 3 feet!

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Virgle, your problem is, you need to stop having sex in the back of a van.
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So Roosh – what’s the fabulous brand of condoms you’re using now? I must give them a try…
I doubt that not asking if a woman orgasms is a fantastic move.
Many chicks aren’t as concerned about orgasms as their partners, as you said, but if you ask, it’s a little thing that usually impresses girls. I know that when a guy asks me if I have, it makes me feel a lot of attraction towards him… just the idea that he is thinking about me and wants to sexually satisfy me makes me feel very warm and receptive to him.
If not, yeah, I might call back, it depends. But the odds are in your favor if you act like you care (even if you don’t).
And you will meet girls who don’t enjoy sex unless they orgasm…but 9 times out of 10 she won’t tell you about it, so there’s no way of knowing. If you don’t ask, she’s not going to come out and say it — most of us don’t want to embarrass you or make things awkward.
Sex that makes me come running back for more is about wanting to please each other, in addition to yourself — I’ll be more likely to try out something kinky that I might not enjoy so much if a guy is genuinely interested in hitting all the right buttons instead of getting off and rolling over.
I’m not trying to call anyone out, but it’s just something to think about… something that a girl might not tell you in person.
The best condoms from I hear and read are Japanese condoms. I heard that the Okamoto Crowns are the closest you can get to having nothing on without having nothing on. I recently ordered a box, so I can’t wait to try for myself.
As for the topic at hand, I absolutely love giving women orgasms. Why wouldn’t I? I get off hearing them scream, hyperventilate, claw and the feeling of their wet vagina’s squeezing tight around your rod as they climax. What’s not to love? I’d give her 10 orgasms an hour if I could. I can only imagine what a female orgasm feels like because I know I don’t do any of that crazy stuff when it’s my moment to pop.
For guys all that matters is the end, but for girls it’s the process.
After reading this sentence and the rest of the paragraph, I somehow became light-headed and was unable to think. Curse women and their useless sex drive. As far as I’m concerned, the process is a pointless waste of energy and time, and the orgasm should be everything.
Another win for jerking-off…
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I had to think of baseball or organic chemistry so I could at least hit the respectable 12 minute mark
Hey, it’s better than thinking about your grandmother naked or something.
I used to use Trojan but they broke often
Then I found out about Durex Extra Sensitive.. slight improvement
But now I’m a Trustex man. Extra Large. I buy it off http://www.condomdepot.com in packs of 100, a two month supply
My condom: http://www.condomdepot.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/201/pid/2865
Right on. I used to worry that I wasn’t giving girls orgasms, but as I’ve hooked up with a few girls since then that get themselves off just riding dick I’ve realized
a) i’m going to make sure I get myself off, you can too
b) it’s hard to tell, and i sure don’t care enough to ask
c) it doesn’t matter anyway
gotta look into the condom thing
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Thanks for the condom suggestions Roosh and skadanks. Has anyone tried the Crown Skinless Skin condoms? They sound like good times from condomdepot’s site, though some said they were slightly snug. Since I am big like a pringles can, I might have to go with Roosh’s XL condom suggestion. Hmmmmmm….
(re: the last comment)– why not just use a Pringles can? wait what
Peter: Hey, it’s better than thinking about your grandmother naked or something.
Yeah… she probably has a glorious natural pelt.
re: re: Can you guys tell me why it’s so hard to just be friends? (ori — Wed Jul 26 — (dumsy)
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You said only 3 out of 10 women cum when having sex. You forgot to mention 0 out of 10 men give a shit.
I think this is very true (girls having orgasms and all), especially with “common every day 9 to 5 girl”.
Real sexually liberated girls, and girls with big mouths (so to speak) you better regulate.
- MPM
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Making sure she’s getting off only matters in long term relationships (like being married) because you live and hear about that shit.
And…
Chloe, I care. Let’s do it.
“But now I’m a Trustex man. Extra Large. I buy it off http://www.condomdepot.com in packs of 100, a two month supply.”
Wow. Someone sounds beta.
I hate condoms. She hates condoms. Luckily you can tell if a girl is clean by her zodiac sign.
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wow- these poor girls you speak of must be desperate. coming from a woman, seriously, hang it up bro.
Orgasms are in the woman’s head.
and we know what a mess that is.
Possibly, barring your passion for cumming in seven seconds, everything else you do for your pleasure, she will like too, even if it is just due to you showing dominance.
Some idiots disguised as females take a man trying to please them as a sign of weakness, that is another issue.
1. I believe there is nothing wrong with asking whether she came. It shows that you want her to feel the pleasure you did, plus it’s a great confidence booster if she says “Yes, I did”. It is not a big deal if she says “No, I did not” either; most girls can still experience great sex without having an orgasm and besides, the female orgasm is much more psychologically driven than the male orgasm.
2. It’s really a wonderful thing if you’ve got her heels over your shoulders, hitting the good old G-Spot and she actually starts crying in orgasm. There was no pain involved, I made very sure of that, she was just completely overwhelmed by emotion/pleasure.
3. I have always been called a very considerate lover. I try to stay in tune with her and “listen” to what her body says it wants me to do; this always makes for great sex and the rewards are plentiful. As a last thought, if she gets involuntary muscle spasms and if her nipples go soft right afterwards the chances are very good that she came; very difficult for a woman to fake that.
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Really? Do you guys really believe that all that matters to us women is “the journey”? Haha, fuck no. I want to get off just as bad as men do.
Those girls saying that “it’s the journey that matters” have probably never had an orgasm and just gave up without even trying.
It’s not hard at all to get a girl off, jesus christ. JUST ASK HER. If she isn’t retarded or doesn’t have a nonexistent libido, she will most likely know how to get an orgasm.
I know exactly how to get pleasure from my body, and I make sure that my man does too. Oh, and if he doesn’t give a crap about me in bed? Dumpsville it is.
Interesting how some women actually put up with this “alpha male” crap I see everywhere. Way to fool men into thinking being a jerk is cool and manly.
Its not that women dont care if we dont orgasm. Of course we love it. But for women, we love sex for the intimacy. We love the feeling of having having our man inside of us. We just love the closeness. Now, if you are in a long term relationship and are not making your girl orgasm, that may be a problem in the long run.
we dont absolutely HAVE to get off the way you guys do to enjoy sex. like I said, we just enjoy the intimacy. but if you wanna make a girl cum, you gotta press our buttons. lick our nipples, rub our clits while you fuck us as hard as you can. tell us we are just absolute godesses. yep… thats the way to do it.
I’m not going to fuck a self centered guy. I’ll get him off but he better be prepared to show me a good time back. Otherwise its not gonna happen.
Haha i could give a rats ass what anyone thinks, its just not as fun if i can’t make her squeal like a piggy and shake like a leaf mmmmm but sometimes its a more gruelling task than i signed up for. but in the end as long as no ones dead… its aaaaaalright.
I disagree completely with this Roosh. Beckster once said to me that he found the best way to get a girl obsessed with you is to give a girl orgasms.
So many can’t experience them with a guy, and when you give it to them, it’s like crack – they’ll need to keep coming back for more.
Hearing a girl breathless and gasping “the things you do to me” or “where the hell did you learn that” is one of the most gratifying things in the world.
Giving a woman an orgasm is incredibly easy. Apparently you suck at sex as much as you do at life.
“For guys all that matters is the end, but for girls it’s the process.”
Umm… Roosh is undoubted genius but this is plain wrong. Maybe for SOME guys. To me, the process is the most important thing.
(don’t ask me what’s that thing in the end)
I find it very easy to give my girlfriend an orgasm every time we have sex. And I don’t even have a dick.
not caring about her orgasm changed absolutely nothing? Wow, as for me a self absorbed lover is boring. My boyfriend is about to lose me permanently because he makes zero effort to satisfy me. Juxtapose, my last boyfriend could actually cum while going down on me which made me stay for 4 years despite his personality issues.
right on, Roosh. Who gives a shit if she orgasms, or not. What matters is that YOU had fun. I started doing this a while ago. This is one of the best things I have learned. It has even happened that I had a dead fish, because I wasn’t turned on, even though the girl was attractive. But I didn’t give the slightest fuck. It’s not that I said or thought ‘fuck her, I don’t care’. It’s like it didn’t even register at all. Come to think of it, no woman deserves that level of thoughtfulness about lasting longer, etc. A woman deserves just to be fucked, not loved, or ‘cared for’. I am not being hateful, I truly don’t care. Isn’t it written anywhere that a man has to last 10 minutes, 20, 30, etc, it’s just bullshit that women themselves want us to believe. Just empty your balls and smile, brother.
’46 Anonymous’
”which made me stay for 4 years despite his personality issues”
there goes another silly bitch who’s not responsible enough to say ‘ -I- stayed because (I was attracted to him/ wanted to take it up my ass/etc).
Of course, it’s HIS fault why SHE stays. What, does he ties you up with a ball and chain and fucks you in the basement?
Well, I think it’s obvious you are a bad lover. It does matter to a girl if she orgasms or not. It matters a lot. Girls who say it doesn’t matter just love their man who sucks at sex. I’ve been there too, really in love with a guy who was a nice guy but selfish in bed. I kept saying orgasms don’t matter because I loved him. But after that I met a guy (without much experience) who was a really devoted lover, he was everything but selfish in bed and cared about my pleasure. He was a really nice guy too. Well, after having sex with him and experiencing great orgasms and mind-blowing sex every time, I now know for sure orgasms do matter. But many men are selfish in bed (the same men complain that American women don’t want to sleep with them and that some girls are not easy enough for them) and will never get this great sex. I really don’t get it – you go to many countries with better women (according to your words), feel happy that women treat you better (your subjective opinion) but treat those same women like shit.
I can always tell if a guy is good at sex or not. I’m pretty sure Roosh is a boring lover.
So that’s a sex tourist. He goes to different countries to sleep with women and leave them without even giving them pleasure. Please, please, don’t come to Eastern Europe. There are enough selfish Eastern European guys (of course, many nice guys as well, like everywhere), we don’t need the worst Western men trying to get laid with us. I think more Eastern European women should see this web page, it will be an eye opener (no, Eastern European girls will not feel flattered).
Girls, no matter where you are from – learn how to recognize selfish guys who only care to add you as number 77 in their book. Don’t waste a second of your life with such guys. If you want casual sex, casual relationships, committed relationships – that’s all fine. But be sure to choose the right guy (and the right guy is not a sex tourist). If you will have nothing but sex with a guy no matter for how long, be sure that the sex will be good before you engage in it. No woman deserves bad sex). And it’s very easy to tell which guy is good and which guy sucks. The guy who is considerate, who puts in effort in you, who looks at you with admiration in his eyes is the one who can give you the time of your life in bed. Doesn’t matter if it’s for a night or for a lifetime. Don’t choose douchebags. The good guy will make you feel like a woman, will make you feel desirable and adored. Don’t help guys like Roosh increase their success rate with women.
I wonder if you still think this way. This post just goes to show, more now that I’m older than ever, that you had (maybe still have) no idea what good sex is. It’s pretty sad.
madmax. it’s so sad and so easy to see right through you. the attempts you make at seeming to not give a shit and calling women bitches just shows that you’re incredibly vulnerable and weak and have most likely been trampled by women in the past. because NO ONE acts the way you do unless they’ve been hurt and are putting up a front to act hard and tough. give it up. it’s not working for you. and most men i know who are truly confident, manly men, would never think you’re cool by the way you talk. you sound like a total douche. by the way, talking about emptying your balls is truly disgusting. ick.
this post makes me THRILLED that i’m a lesbian. i used to love casual sex probably just as much if not more than the men on here. but i’ll tell you this: i can get any woman off in less than 5 minutes max (and get her off multiple times) AND still get mine. it’s so simple and it just shows how plain inadequate all of the men on this site really are. not only that, but it’s pitiful you resort to ridiculous explanations and crazy rationale behind your inadequacies. insane shit like “women don’t care.” is this really what you’ve had to tell yourself? rather than just learn how to be good in bed, you come up with off the wall bullshit to tell yourself to justify it? like you think it makes you look manly? if you were good in bed, you wouldn’t have to come up with these ridiculous explanations. and guess what else? women don’t need a dick to receive the best orgasm they’ve ever had in their entire fucking life. gasp! mind-blowing, i know!
me personally, i’ve settled down and am in a relationship now with a girl who’s never been with a woman before. and guess what else is a first for her? experiencing an orgasm. how sad is that? no man has ever cared or was adequate enough to get her off. and you guys try to pretend like this is intentional? really? has it gotten so bad to where men are so poor in bed, they seriously have to start this rumor that it’s ON PURPOSE?? we know that’s just a cover for being shit in bed. believe me. the first time my girl and i had sex she busted out laughing after she got off and said “holy shit! i can’t believe i wasted so much time on men!” in fact, she said she used to have to drive home and masturbate because her last boyfriend didn’t have a clue how to please her. she laughed at how bad he was. believe me, we may be nice to your face because that’s our nature, but trust that we make fun of your dumb asses and laugh at you when you’re not around.
give up this macho act. it seriously makes you look like complete idiots. get a grip.
Don’t ask how I found this site (a guy on a first date admitted he had been searching for tips on “The Game” discussion boards). I didn’t sleep with him–he was still too “beta.” Ha. Reading Roosh’s words with horror and fascination, agreeing with some things (it’s important for men not to get to hung up on rejection), and disagreeing with others (calling women animal names is really depressing). I’m also not sure a true player needs pointers like this–many of them get really good at giving head and leverage that. Some players don’t give a shit and just try to get off. If a girl is going to fall for an asshole, she can fall for either kind. Eventually, some women do tire of bad boys, just as some men tire of trying to be those men if it doesn’t come naturally. I still vote that the best sex is a mutual act, with orgasms for everyone, not a pump and dump. Otherwise, you might as well be masturbating.
My husband showed me your 30 different types of pussy, and I thought that was funny but I am really having a hard time agreeing with other things you say in your posts. I look good and I don’t have to settle for crap. So, If I don’t orgasm because you so obviously just don’t care, bet your ass you will not be getting a repeat. I might even leave mid-session. If I can do a better job myself then whats the point? To up the number of people I slept with? I just don’t understand your thinking and how it would benefit you. My sex drive is high and I get off every time. It is the process and the end, if you are in a relationship. The end is all that matters if you are just screwing them. And I do mean for both people. You get what you give in my book. You give shit you get shit.



