I met an Irishman at the Colombian university where I studied Spanish. He was a nice guy and I invited him to the food court area to hang out for a bit. He was fluent in Spanish and I complimented his ability and picked his brain a little.
The topic got onto girls and I told him night game is inefficient in Medellin and that my strategy focuses on approaching girls during the day. He was curious of course and I showed him how to do it by approaching a group of three girls next to us in Spanish. The girls invited me to sit at their table and about five minutes in I introduced the Irishman.
He almost fucked it up. He started talking way too much and not giving the girls a chance to answer, and with my inferior Spanish I was being pushed out of the conversation. He had no apparent technique and the girls appeared disinterested, adding no more than a phrase or two during breaks in his monologue. I knew I made a mistake by approaching with an unknown wingman, but I maintained my cool and only spoke when I had something insanely witty or funny to say. This set up a little contrast where I was obviously the more interesting gringo.
It’s hard enough maintaining a conversation with four other people in English, let alone in Spanish. The conversation was dying out. Before it got painfully awkward I ended it by saying we’re getting back to our studies. The Irishman didn’t object because he had since ran out of things to say.
He left soon after that, leaving me alone. Five minutes later the cutest girl stares at me and says, “You can sit and study with us if you want.” I moved back to their table and for the next half hour I’m doing my work with little breaks of talking to them. Since there were other girls I had to work the subtle tip and ask for everyone’s email address to stay in touch with the cute one, suggesting we hang out at some bar they mentioned earlier. I wasn’t too concerned since I’ve had a bit of success with email addresses in Medellin before.
The girls went to class and the Irishman swung by later. Apparently pumped up by my theories and sample approach, he ended up talking to a girl on some grassy area.
“Yeah it was going well, but I didn’t ask for her number,” he said.
“Why not?” I asked.
“I don’t no. I’m an idiot I should’ve.”
Eventually he asked for my phone number and I got his. I’d hang out with him again during the day but at night I rather go out solo dolo than with a beginner who needs heavy pickup instruction.
Three hours later he calls me. Strange, I thought, but I picked up.
“Hey Roosh how’s it going?” he said.
“Pretty good. What’s up?”
“You know those emails you got today?”
“Yeah what about them?”
“Can you give me the email of the [cutest girl]?”
I paused for a few seconds to digest his request. I was eating an avocado with a light dusting of salt from my bed while watching reggaeton music videos. I know that reggaeton uses Spanish that is not exactly up to formal standards, but it keeps me on top of the language.
“Are you joking?” I said.
“No I just thought you didn’t like her.”
“Huh? You think I did all that work for you?”
“Uhhh I thought you liked the other girl.”
“Oh, okay then. Well maybe I’ll see you tomorrow at school?”
When I got off the phone I deleted his number. I spent the time to explain to him a skill that can get him a thousand numbers, but because he views women as scarce and highly desirable, he wanted to go all-in for this one email address on a girl that he neither approached nor closed.
A lot of guys who study game are concerned that once the information is out there, all these other guys will do it and then decrease the overall value of game. But most guys don’t have what it takes to improve and to change. Most guys don’t have balls (or even the proper work ethic), and even though they know that game works and it’s something they should do, they remain harmless threats to those men who remain fighting in the trenches.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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Man what a fucking dick rider. You’re way too nice to other male traveling douche-y guys. From here on out go solo dolo for a more effective strike
P.S you should have told him there are rules to this shit and act like he’s done this before
A lot of guys who study game are concerned that once the information is out there, all these other guys will do it and then decrease the overall value of game. But most guys don’t have what it takes to improve and to change. Most guys don’t have balls (or even the proper work ethic), and even though they know that game works and it’s something they should do, they remain harmless threats to those men who remain fighting in the trenches.
It’s with anything in life worth having.
Ha. Good story.
Yeah, if you don’t have a good running partner, Go for Dolo: http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2007/08/going-for-dolo.html
There is nothing worst than a bad running partner.
Especially one that tries to take center stage.
wow I seriously LAUGHED OUT LOUD. Sometimes we forget that, like VK said, there are rules to this shit, and we forget that something so stupid could actually happen.
Also helps remind those who ARE in the trenches that we are few, and we will benefit. Hell, not even Antonio Sabato Jr. can get a girl he wants!
I love wingman like that…guys who do all the talking for you. I’ve had great success in those situations. I wish you didn’t delete his number, always could use another wingman like that.
Irishman is a classic freeloader and a shameless one at that. I guarantee you he’s got a penchant for laziness in other areas of his life.
To #6, huh?! Elaborate.
#8, I dont know exactly, just that I’ve had good success when my wingman does most the talking. Somehow I think it’s good to spend time with girl without actually doing much talking. When you talk too much, you look needy for attention. But then if no one is talking, there’s no point in staying at the girls’ table. So there’s a bit of a dilemma there. A talkative wingman can help in these situations. Ideally the girls would do most the talking, but sometimes girls are shy.
Oh, lord jesus….!
This reminds me of a couple of scenarios I’ve had during travelling.
A lot of guys intuitively understand these situations, but when you’re travelling and go out with rookies, once in a while you encounter this.
And each and every time I am utterly amazed and stupefied!
i think you’re taking this stuff far too seriously. so he asked you for the girl’s number – big deal. What’s so offensive about that? Why do YOU find it so offensive? i thought you were coming from the land of plenty where fruit falls from the trees. If you like the girl, fine, you can keep the number but there is no reason to be a jackass about the whole thing.
I think b/c the Irish guy couldn’t fend for himself…moreover was too lazy to, or to learn a few things so he’d fare better next time.
it’d be like Daniel asking Mr. Miyagi to fight all of his fights for him…instead of teaching him to do it himself.
someone has to take this stuff seriously…
Roosh is a bit like brad pitt’s character in Fight Club…
and prob saving a lot of guys here countless hours and $ on therapy…
Irish guy was obviously a total amatuer. I would have deleted his number too unless he wanted to book some lessons.
Some guys have no clue and think that talking at girls and showing them a lot of attention = game.
Asking for girls contact details of a girl he did not close and not realising or even asking who you were interested in another rookie mistake.
Guy sounds like a chode.
Why do cats think it’s a slick idea to cold call a chick? That’s a man code violation, trying to snag contact info from a girl you were trying to connect with. What part of the game is that?
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They say the Irish have the gift of gab. Guess this guy got left out when they were handing that out. The poor Mick would probably have better luck in the States. There he could play “exotic foreigner” game and leverage the intrinsic interest that an accent creates. Of course he’d still have no game, but he’d at least get a little further than trying to blunder on in Spanish.
let’s say you are a sargeant. If you were to give every soldier a gun and teach them how to use it effectively, it doesnt mean that all of them will rush into battle and kill 20 men right away; only 1 or 2 of them will have the ability & willpower to actually pull it off.
the irishman may have a little potential but for now he sounds lazy, and careless. That’s why he didnt get the e-mails of those girls.
Its the same with poker. Theres so many good books and information about and anyone who really tried could get decent but most people don’t have the worth ethic to sit down and study the game.
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Guy sounds like a leech. Best to cut these people out of your life.
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If you don’t have game, it’s really the best to shut the fuck up, at least there is a bit mystery in that. I agree with The Duke.
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Got to laugh at this!! I was that Irish guy…not sure where this “Knowledge alone isn’t enough” title comes from… as Roosh says himself he had to explain theories and game to me…only prior knowledge I had was being able to speak Spanish…
Admittedly didn’t get a number or email at the time but only one of us met that cute girl again and it wasn’t Roosh!!
(who had yet to score in Colombia at that stage after several weeks which I had done on my first night in Colombia!!!)
riding in a bed beats keyboard riding everytime
“(who had yet to score in Colombia at that stage after several weeks”
You don’t got to lie. The reason you were interested in my ideas is because I told you success stories.
Glad you found me though…
yeah there were stories but can’t remember any non “puta/fea” ones from Colombia –
was laughing at the reader comments more than anything roosh analysing a 10 minute convo before lunch
- but you were making me out to be some student nerd of The Game whereas I was just a fluent Spanish speaker –
I’ll be impressed if you get some results in Poland – got plenty of attention there but no flag
Poland is so much easier than Colombia. But then again I have the look that they like.