The next lifestyle interview is with Lumiere, a man who has the most flags out of anyone on the forum. While by some measures he may be considered “old,” he shows that age is no obstacle to living a mobile lifestyle full of banging foreign women. On the forum you’ll find his best advice on Asian and South American countries.
On to the interview…
Can you give us a little background on your age and the type of environment you grew up in?
I grew up in a rough working class environment in Liverpool in northern England. I turned 40 recently.
What are some things that influenced you earlier in life that put you into the position you are in now?
Well in my early life I was obsessed with technology and, quite frankly, I was a nerd all through my teen years and was a very late starter when it came to women. However when I moved to London I was able to make a good living in tech which allowed me to save up and travel a lot.
Talk about your ideal girl. What does she look like? Where is she from? What’s her personality like?
There are many things about women that I am attracted to but the principal factors can be broken down like this: I am a sucker for women with beautiful eyes—the windows of the soul. I love women who have natural figures. I hate the blonde/peroxide/false breast look. I love women who have a certain body type where there is a beautiful waist to hip ratio. A beautiful feminine curve. Above all I am most attracted to women who are totally aligned and in touch with their feminine polarity.
Personality? Warm, sweet, intelligent, adventurous, open minded.
In terms of ethnicity, I am a total sucker for the exotic. If a women is Mediterranean or South American or some crazy, sultry mutt mixture like quarter Mexican, quarter Russian and half Lebanese, I am sold.
What type of game do you run?
I run pure form game. I also teach it. It is based purely on vibing emotionally, solid inner game and being totally connected to your masculine polarity.
How do you change your game when you’re abroad versus in your home country? How do foreign girls and American/Western girls differ?
The basic pattern detailed above never changes but in my home country I tend to avoid English girls and go for foreigners and, when I am abroad I tend to go for the local girls of the country I am in.
In Western countries, girls have mostly lost connection to their female polarity and are far less sensual, soft, and feminine. They act like men. Also the concept of a woman knowing how to take care of her man has mostly been lost in Western countries and is seen as subservient whereas with many foreign girls, being able to take care of their man is a point of pride and not being able to take care of him is regarded as a failure.
Describe your travel experiences and strategy.
My travel experiences stretch across several decades. I have been around the world a few times in a single loop. I have taken many one-off trips but, when I have taken those one-off trips I like to spend at least a month in a country and explore every bit of it if i can.
Going on a holiday for a few weeks and lying on a beach has no interest for me at all.
In terms of strategy, I use the internet to build a prospect pipeline of local women before I arrive. I don’t buy a guidebook so I don’t feel the temptation to get trapped in a tourist loop. In short I avoid the three principal mistakes that a lot of people make:
1. Arriving in an unfamiliar country or city with an empty prospect pipeline.
2. Being lead around by the nose by their Lonely Planet guidebook.
3. Hanging out with people from your hostel as a social network instead of meeting locals.
What kind of lodgings do you stay in?
A mixture of hostels, crashing on couches and hotels (if the country has decent affordable hotels). Depends on how I am feeling and how much privacy I think I will require. If I am staying in a dorm or crashing on a couch, I like to scope out the location of a decent short time hotel to avoid losing lays for any logistical reasons.
How do you approach integrating yourself into a new culture with regard to food, language, local customs, etc.?
My approach to travelling is when I arrive in a country I want to know and embrace the culture of the country that I am in. The four principle ways of doing that are:
1. Walk their streets
2. Eat their food
3. Sex the local women
4. Speak the language
Obviously with language, that’s connected to how long you are going to be in a country. If I am in a place long enough to merit learning the language then I do, and, if not then I don’t (apart from learning one or two cute phrases).
What do you fill your days with?
Mostly chilling these days. I have already seen enough temples, churches, etc. in my life so I tend not to do the tours that are laid on for tourists. If it’s something that sounds fun that I have not done before then I will do it even though it’s touristic.
For example, I was in Vang Vieng last month and went tubing on the Mekong which is the number one tourist draw in a very touristic town, but I have never been tubing before and the parties that were happening in the bars that all the tubers stop off all the way along the river were raging. Music was great. I was swinging off rope swings and throwing myself in the Mekong, zip lining, water slides, mud volleyball, etc. I had the most fun I have had in a long time.
So I keep an open mind to fun even if it’s touristic and try not to be a snob and miss out on cool stuff just because it touristy.
Do you have a basic strategy for meeting women while you travel?
1. Fill prospect pipeline before I arrive with local women and hook up with them.
2. Avoid hooking up with backpackers or travelers, making exceptions only for relatively local countries. For example when travelling in Argentina, there’s nothing wrong with hooking up with a Brazilian from your hostel. You are still in South America having a South American experience at least.
3. Adapt to local culture. For example, I know that in many Southeast Asian countries that it is just not part of the culture for local women to go to bars and drink alcohol. In the bars I know that I am going to encounter only tourists and semi pros. Therefore I know I will need to day game and to shore [bang prostitutes without paying for it].
How do you make a living? How did you get into it? What are some skills you had to learn?
A mixture. I play poker, teach game and lifestyle design, and do freelance journalism. My most reliable income however is passive rental income from property I have in London. In terms of skills, there are plenty but I would say that lifestyle arbitrage and learning how to use it has been a very key skill.
I believe you have the most flags out of any guy on the forum. How many do you have?
Well there are there are only 193 widely recognised sovereign states. I lost count a long time ago but I would guess around 75 flags right now.
The whole flag thing is a bit of fun though. I don’t regard either picking up girls or capturing flags as a competition. Also, I am not a womaniser which I would imagine a serious “flag collector” would be.
A womaniser is somebody who uses women for sex, tosses them aside and says “next” whereas, as you can surmise from my philosophy of maintaining the connections that I have with women for a long time, I am only really interested in long term relationships. Not long term relationships in the way that society typically defines them, but long term relationships non the less.
I just love to travel and embrace the culture of the country that I am in. Sexing the local wimmins is just one of the ways of embracing the culture. One cannot truly appreciate or know a culture without sexing the local wimmins.
What are your future goals? How do you see your life playing out in the next 10-20 years?
I have designed my lifestyle in such a way that I have total freedom. Principally that involves removing all obligations from my life and removing location dependency as well. That allows me to live in a totally free manner, removes the need to plan and allows me to improvise and to truly live my life in the moment. So my plan in the next 10-20 years is to do whatever the hell I feel like doing at any particular time.
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Good interview with Lumiere. He gave me some great Data Sheets before going to Dominican Republic.
“Fill prospect pipeline before I arrive with local women and hook up with them.”
I always find this to be an interesting tactic, as I am a cat that typically hits the ground cold (unless I already know people there) because I use zero Internet Game.
The G Manifesto’s last blog post: First Night In Riga, Latvia.
What are the best online sites for finding potential prospects when traveling?
Also, what does “pure form game” mean?
ExtraStoute: There’s no one-size-fits-all site for meeting foreign girls online.
Colombian girls: colombiancupid.com, amigos.com
Brazilian girls: braziliancupid.com
Latin girls: badoo.com
Okcupid.com has a growing international base.
Mixxmaster uses Facebook (girls connected to his contacts).
I think Lumiere mentioned on the forum he uses couchsurfing to meet girls too.
I probably should spend more time in the forum
The Rookie’s last blog post: Is DC Dead Yet?.
Yeah you should.
I broke down Barcelona to the bone gristle there.
Would have saved you tons of mistakes.
The G Manifesto’s last blog post: First Night In Riga, Latvia.
Wow, another very inspiring interview. Thanks!
Good point on not using Lonely Planet all the time. It’s much more rewarding to have a local cutie show you around.
Lumiere, would you like to write guest posts on Deep Inner Game and Lifestyle Arbitrage?
I have nothing against older guys who are still in the game, but by the time I am in my 40′s I don’t want to still be chasing tail.
By that time, I hope to have “settled down.”
Eh, but to each his own.
Excellent interview, Roosh. You are fast becoming the Charlie Rose of game. Which is a good thing, Rose is a tight interviewer, and represents an alpha masculine inquisitive character.
Lumiere’s high point, I think, is his game ethics–long game, staying friends with them later, and the big one, being connected to one’s masculine essence, which allows for the best part–vibing emotionally. That’s the ticket, truly.
Keep up the great work, Roosh, and Lumiere–got a blog?
Great inspirational article. The Lonely Planet thing is so true. There are lots of good sites listed in those books, but nothing beats a cute girl showing you around. Plus there’s no better way to learn a language then be forced to speak it with your girls.
Online game is dead in the US, but I could see it working if you traveling to another country.
Culdcept’s last blog post: Abortion.
Yeah I liked this interview Roosh, cool stuff. This guy seems to have a type of game similar to mine and what I aspire to in the long run.
Neo’s last blog post: Assume The Sale Part 1.
I am not free/able to follow this guy’s example (or the other guy profiled this week), so I think I’ll just go shoot myself now.
Either that or just be modestly hopeful about my new possibilities in my new job & new location.
Seriously, I can appreciate what I have, what I tend to get, but sometimes observing someone else’s life is like watching a really hot orgy when you cannot join in.
Still, material like today’s post makes for better reading than many other options out there.
Good work Roosh, seriously, hope you keep it going.
“I am not free/able to follow this guy’s example (or the other guy profiled this week), so I think I’ll just go shoot myself now.”
Things not going well in West LA?
Granted, I have only been there a few times, but the chicks were of decent quality, even if they were a bit stuck up.
“Lumiere, a man who has the most flags out of anyone ON THE FORUM.”
This is someone I would want to learn from, definitely.
@ Mr. T, #13,
FYI, not that it’s any boo hoo tragedy or anything, but I am past forty and encountering pathetic ageism; I am financially hobbled and encountering superficiality.
Yup, LA & W. LA has plenty of great looking women.
Also, LA may be the superficiality capital of the USA, with W. LA being Ground Zero for the Entitlement Mentality.
That’s okay, I get very lucky sometimes, just not often enough.
I know, the only thing to do is to survey the landscape, the predator prey dynamic, the opportunities and pitfalls, and choose among your options.
‘Ya gots ta work with what ya gots ta work with’.
It is what it is. Learn, adjust, persist …
“Dear Mom and Dad,
When I am 40, I want to be a sex forum stud for an army of adult internet virgins.”
- It’s OK, son. That still beats being G Manifesto.
Roosh, great idea with these interviews.
Some questions for Lumiere…
How many rental properties do you own?
Do you own these free + clear?
Are you using a management company?
What type of properties (single family, multi, commerical)?
@ExtraStout. THere is a decent country breakdown here :
Pure form game is as I described it in the interview basically.
@Maximum Risk. Write guest posts where?
@(r)Evolutionary. Nope, I don’t have a blog. Do you think I should start one?
@Culdcept. Online game dead in the US? I am currently 1 year and 3 months into a round the world trip. I visisted the US as part of this trip and had no problem getting laid via online game there.
@Mr. T. I dont chase tail. I travel because I love to travel and know and embrace the different cultures of the world.
If you have game, having a lot of women in your life is just a natural by product of that.
How many rental properties do you own? It is less hassle to own one or two expensive properties than tons of cheap ones for obvious reasons so that’s the path I have gone down.
Do you own these free + clear? Still have a mortgage but the rent pays for both my mortgage and my lifestyle.
Are you using a management company? Yes and no. In the UK they passed a law recently that stops management companies charging their percentage after the initial (typically 1 year) contract. So in the event that the tenant extends, which he did in my case, then they cannot continue to claim their percentage.
What type of properties (single family, multi, commerical)? Single residential.
Either well written guest articles that Roosh might want to publish on this blog. Or write on the forum. You’ve posted quite a lot (very good info btw), but not specifically on those two topics, I think. Or start a blog? Your knowledge and experience would be much appreciated.
Renting out property has it’s caveats. What would you do in case the tenant stops/refuses his monthly pay for whatever reason? Can become quite a financial mess, if you depend on the payments.
Yea real estate is how I am rolling on the next round of saving money for me to get income.
That and more farmland.
Fuck a mortgage though plan on paying it off cash.
Because a mortgage could put you in a bad spot if yea you couldn’t rent the shit out for a bit.
5 years till 40. Should be in decent shape by then.
I might be interested in starting a blog if someone could provide solid info on getting traffic, building an audience, monetising it etc.
Perhaps a topic for the forums maybe?
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Nothing new under the sun buddy. It’s the old mail order bride business. Now marketed via web 2.0.
So Lumiere is a scouser!
I love Liverpool – including the girls. I go over to England every other year or so and always do well there. Strange as it seems, they like the American accent.
Liverpool might be a hidden gem for some of you. Good music, pubs and pretty girls who wear next to nothing in the clubs/bars. Some very tough areas though so best if you go with a local.
Oh dear, it’s simply dreadful how slutty females entice our good alpha male pterodactyls to surprise swoop them. Sexy Pterodactyl was just dropping one of these slut-creatures from 10,000 feet the other day, and I said:
Sexy Pterodactyl, you’re the real victim here!
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