I finally found a room in Botafogo, a mostly middle-class neighborhood adjacent to Copacabana. The only problem is that I’m incredibly close to the Dona Marta favela, roughly two or three minutes away on foot. I look outside my window and feel like I can reach out and touch it. They say in Rio that if you find yourself walking uphill you should turn back, and my building is definitely on an uphill slope.
I’m here because finding a reasonable monthly rental in Rio during December, January, or February is close to impossible. I was facing New York City prices, and even my current spot is more expensive than the nice room I rented in the best part of Medellin. After Carnival (Februrary 16) I will look for something better, as prices should drop by about 50%.
I live in a six-apartment building close to where the tree line begins in the bottom left of the photo. The Christ Redeemer statue is nearby on the right.
The street in front of my building is used by the favela dwellers to access their shacks and sometimes I watch them from my window. They appear to be a clean and simple people, more lively and expressive than their one-hundred times richer counterparts in Ipanema. I’m tempted to go into the favela during the day and grab lunch to see how it compares to all those Brazilian movies I’ve watched. Since everyone thinks I’m Brazilian I have a good feeling I can visit in flip flops and plain clothing and make it out without any problems, but of course I won’t do it.
My upper-class Brazilian friend asked for my address yesterday and after I gave it to her she replied with this:
It’s basically inside the favela, hahahaha. i would NEVER live there.
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How many reals per month we talking here? Trying to determine cost of living for my own trip. Tx.
Do it Roosh, visit the favela, you will be fine, just bring two pockets of bills in case you get mugged and you have something to show for it.
Rossh you should find a chick to live with and lower those bills plus have live in pussy. It is the way to go.
90% of the people who live in those “favelas” are good people…its just that the 10% who are shady get all the attention….you do have to be careful with the kids who are out wandering the streets at night…alot of them are hungry, on drugs, and are looking for an easy target…i made friends with alot of those kids by giving them a sodas, snacks, and a few reals once in a while…as long as you look like you can fit in, you will have no problem in the favela, most of the people who work in hotels and restaurants live in the favelas, and if you didn’t know that , you would think they are nice working class people, which is basically what they are…
I live in the second biggest city in Indonesia, indonesia being the 4th most populous country in the world and not well-off….. there is no residential neighbourhood in the city I would be afraid of walking around in, day or night, as a very, very obvious foreigner. But indonesia doesn’t have such a big drug problem…..
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That looks just like opening scene of the last Incredible Hulk movie… because that is my American perspective on all other countries.
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i live close to botafogo and dona marta is not what used to be. it’s now police controlled. even madonna did go in. hell this favela has free wi-fi connection. it’s a “high-class” favela now lol
why? is it THAT dangerous? the favelas that is…
750 R$ a month
Favelas are generally lawless areas occupied and run by drug gangs who possess military-grade weaponry (i.e. tracer ammunition, advanced rifles). A month ago a gang took down a police helicopter. There is an elite police force (BOPE) that uses war tactics for raiding favelas, whose tactics are looked upon as the gold standard for urban warfare.
any plans to head back to Arg??
750 a month tell me all the rich ain’t moving out of the us.
Jesus man to live in that shit 750 a month wow. So how much to buy one?
The thing about the favelas is, the drug-lords don’t want people making trouble. If a bunch of kids get out of line and start mugging locals left and right, the police are going to use that excuse to roll in, shake things up, and extort money from the gang or demand a scape goat, or whatever it is rio cops do. Locals have little to fear from favela-dwellers inside the favela. It’s tourists drunkenly stumbling down copa beach who are at the highest risk.
I’ve been in your neighborhood. That’s close to where I hang when I’m in Rio. You’re going to have a good time.
There’s a mall on the other side of Copacabana which (if I remember) is a good place to meet women. Of course, all of Brazil is a good place to meet women!
Shit that favela has a lot satellite dishes that’s like middle class favela. Shit! they even have wi-fi? Damn!
Just keep safe. You’d be alright as long you’re aware of your own environment and people.
College Game pretty much gave a good tip there.
Enjoy your time in Brazil…and oh enjoy Brazillian Women too!
My friend lived in an apartment basically in the exact same neighborhood, the view form his bedroom rivaled the one in that pic overlooking Dona Marta with a view of Cristo from his window.
It’s not that dangerous, the upside is that because Dona AMrt is right there so are the cops, and you would honestly run into more problems in Copacabana than in Botafogo. As far as convenient and affordable places to live in Rio, Botafogo is the way to go.
Favela’s are full of blacks which makes it the equivalent to a inner city ghetto in the US.
But you can’t say that of course.
Close to Casa de Matriz and the mall on the other side of the Copacabana tunnel. Playing to your strengths. Looking forward to some stories.
A not so thinly veiled attempt to seem like a bad ass? Seeing as you could pass for a homeless brazilian hippy I’m not very worried for you.
Yo man, you don’t know how stoked I am that I found your blog, after years of pussing out on chasing women, I’m finally trying to get my head right and get into the game. That’s fucking awesome that you’re living in Rio, I’m about to be heading there for vacation in 3 weeks staying at Stone of a Beach in Copa. If there is any way we could link up down there that would be off the hook, I’m a fellow persian bro from the D.C. area.
Roosh, I’m sure you’re already aware of this, but Brazil and pretty much everywhere else is going to keep getting more and more expensive because the dollar is loosing massive amounts of value. 750 R$ is about 300 Euros. In dollars it is more like $420. It use to be much cheaper to travel through Latin America even 5 not to mention 10 to 15 years ago, and unfortunately due to the money printing in the United States it’s only going to get more and more expensive…
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I see another poster has elected to use the moniker “z” here. Ive not posted here all that much, but have used “z” when I have. Its easy to remember, that moniker.
I hope you have a great time and keep safe down there. Its an intriguing place, but I understand there really is statistically a great deal of murders in and around the favelas of Rio.
“Favela’s are full of blacks which makes it the equivalent to a inner city ghetto in the US.
But you can’t say that of course.”
Favelas aren’t just blacks. There’s the whole range of mixes in them. In the south of Brazil, where it is more white, there are favelas with white people.
Why do you hate on Americans so much when your travels abroad have revealed how closed minded and aloof the elites of third world countries are?
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Because lower class americans are even more horrible than the middle class. At least in brazil the impoverished know how to get the fuck down
lol john americans who have loot obviously are abroad.
apartment nyc decent area 600 month my how times are changing in the global economy.
It comes out to about $420 US dollars.
Every favela/barrio in South America is full of satellite dishes, just like how you can go to the ghetto in D.C. and see kids with expensive clothes and fancy cell phones. When you pay very little rent and don’t know how to save, you have a bit of money to blow even with minimum wage employment.
Just meet some locals and get them to show you round the favela.
btw – do you have a job in Rio?
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It comes out to about $420 US dollars.
Little better anyway I didn’t notice the r after thanks.
Hey Roosh… I’m Brazilian and I would strongly discourage you to stay where you are… I have lived for five years in Rio and never had any problems personally. But I’ve always known how to avoid trouble.
Crime in Rio is a very serious and dangerous reality. Look… there is a very nice hostel in botafogo. It’s called botafogo easy hostel. Google it, it’s easy to find and very affordable at a monthly price and even has breakfast included. I have stayed there for as long as fifteen days. Of course, you have to share rooms. But think of it as a way to socialize and meet people. The atmosfere is very cosy and you’ll often find hot female gests. Walking distance from the Praia mall and Casa da Matriz. What else can you ask for?
As for having a place to pull chicks… Good luck having a middle class Brazilian hottie following you into the favela…
Feel free to email me if you like.
ok american, so your operation office in rio is now in botafogo near the favela, ive saved the webpage about your location, and im warning you for the last time, if you dont remove all information about the womans in brasil, you are going to jail in brasil roosh, cause i will inform a police woman in policia federal in rio about how you make money.
you are contributing to damage the brasilians woman image abroad and you are treating brasilian womans like trash, exactly like you do with all womans in poor south america.
brasil is not poor south america, and we dont like americans who come over here to treat brasilian womans like prostitutes ..so keep that in mind for the first place.
24 hours for you to finish this brasilian blog otherwise policia federal will investgate you and you will have a surprise when trying to leave brasil if they dont catch you before, you american sex pimp writer.
I’m Brazilian as well and YOU EMBARASS ME! Roosh is doing absolutely nothing illegal and you can’t do SHIT about it, so cut the crap! Just walk around in copacabana at night and THERE you will see the gringos you have to worry about! People looking for prostutites and exploring young, poor Brazilian women. Roosh is going to nightculbs and bars meeting Brazilian women just as I have been to bars and clubs in america meeting amercian women. So cut the moralistic victim mentality-patriotic-feminist bullshit and get a fuckin life! You’re an EMBARRASMENT! You’re probably an ugly narow minded warpig, the kind of girl he’s not in Brazil to meet anyways.
Ironically the hater is from Portugal.
90% of Brazilian girls who stay in Europe more than a year become crazy
I agree with Brazilian… if you want to have a good time in Rio, you’ll have to find a better located apartment that will cost you more.
Anyways, as much as I love the cidade maravillosa, I think it might be one of the worst places in Brazil (with Fortaleza) for a gringo to live. There are way too many gringo sex tourists there and it gives all gringos a bad image.
Other places like São Paulo, Brasilia, Porto Alegre seem much better for picking up