Dear American Parent,
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Because of your awful parenting, average men just like myself are racking up notch counts that even Casanova himself would be jealous of, all from learning a handful of game tricks.
I have performed the job that you have not. When my sister was about 16, I sat her down for “the talk.” I went over human sexual anatomy and contraception, but most importantly I talked about the meaning of sex. Here’s what I told her:
All men are pigs. Yes, even I am a pig. All we want is to have sex with the least amount of effort. We will say anything you want to hear in order to get it. Understand that before sex, you have all the power, but afterwards you have very little. A guy who was jumping over himself to hang out with you will be more nonchalant after sex, like he doesn’t even care.
The only way a man will value you is if you made him put in a lot of investment before sex. The more work he puts in, the less he can rationalize that you were meaningless to him, and the more likely he will continue to pursue because he considers you above the rest. Each man you have sex with that doesn’t call you back will kill a part of your soul, and it’s your job to guard against that. Only have sex with men who earn it.
One last thing. A guy will use every trick in the book not to use a condom. If he tries, he has probably done that on god knows how many women, and those women have done the same on god knows how many men. Don’t turn your body into a petri dish.
You’re probably thinking, “Oh she must really hate men now! She’s probably a lesbian!” And you would be wrong. She is 25-years-old and has had two multi-year relationships with men who have treated her well (her most recent boyfriend took her to a concert of her favorite singer for Valentine’s Day—how sweet). Her relationships have been comfortable, balanced, and based on the mutual sharing of experiences. She’s not out at the bar fucking random guys or getting drunk. She doesn’t lead guys on just to receive text messages. She didn’t flirt with other guys on Facebook behind her boyfriends’ backs. Bottom line is she doesn’t put out like your dirty little whore.
She is absolutely repulsed by the stories I tell her of quickly taking a girl to bed (or car). Her response is along the lines of, “How can they do that? Ewww.” My brainwashing has worked on her, and the truth is she appreciates my lessons. She’s happy not to be like other girls her age, drowning in a shallow life of liquor and anonymous cocks. In fact, I don’t think she’s had sex with more than four or five guys in her life. For a 25-year-old American girl that is an astonishing feat. I will never ask for her count because that would be crossing our brother-sister relationship, but right now I’m reminded of 21-year-old I fucked a few months ago. She couldn’t help but tell me she has already slept with “over 10″ guys, essentially bragging about it. I was probably number 18 or 19, and believe me when I say I didn’t feel at all privileged about fucking her.
By the time that slut is 24 it will be impossible for her not have experienced 30 cocks, but she’s empowered and independent, right? This is what you’ve brought into the world. Needless to say but I didn’t ask her out again. Why should I when I can just text her as I get horny from the bar at 2am? Why would I put in a scrap of work when she rewards me with putting in none?
I didn’t just have one speech with my sister, I hammered things into her brain over several years. I said…
Right now you are in your physical prime. All humans start to degrade after 25, but for women it’s more dramatic since us guys mostly care about looks. We are more shallow than you can possibly imagine. Therefore if you want to get married, you should start thinking about it when you’re 24. It takes a couple years to find a guy and then a couple years more to make sure he’s the one you want to spend the rest of your life with. It’s okay if you don’t want to get married, but if you do, don’t wait until you’re 30. By then it will be too late because you’ll have to compete with younger girls who are still in their prime, and it won’t matter how smart you are if you’re not as pretty as them. After 30 you’ll be forced to settle with a man you wouldn’t even have considered just a couple years prior. And that’s if you’re lucky.
Her last relationship lasted three years. Sucks it didn’t work out, but she has the right idea.
I’ve had a direct influence over her even though I wasn’t her father. I simply told her the facts of life, how things really are, and what she has to do to land a man for a relationship. I told her that while she will see many girls pretending to enjoy fucking guys who don’t give a shit about them, they are not happy. Her time is better spent on making one man happy instead of letting many men use her for short-term sexual pleasure.
If you were a boy instead of a girl, I would tell you something very different. Understand that guys have some sort of “conquest gene.” Sure, sex with someone we love make us generally happy, but conquering a continuous stream of new lands and female bodies really makes us happy. This is why business and statecraft is mostly in the realm of men, who are natural born hunters. We’ve perfected those things. When our little half-brother grows up, the talks I have with him will be very different.
And they have. I’m bringing him out of his shell to be a charming devil that slays pussy left and right. I’d be destroying his life if I told him to seek relationships that end up in marriage, but for my sister marriage is an okay venture to get into, especially in America where family law tilts things in her favor.
I’m wondering why you didn’t teach your daughter these things. Why didn’t you tell her not to fuck a cocky dude that treats her poorly after just a couple hours? Why didn’t you tell her to wrap it up with the random men she goes to bed with? I’m not entirely sure, but I want to sincerely offer my gratitude. You’ve helped create a system where sex is meaningless, and one that I take advantage of every week.
As much as I love going to the sex clinic after an awesome hot streak, I know this isn’t sustainable. I know that I’m living a special time that takes advantage of perverse cultural loopholes, and that nations without a solid family unit will find the chickens coming home to roost sooner than later. Nonetheless, I will jam my dick in your girl and others like her, to enjoy this ride as long as I can.
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I am sure your sister would not tell you anything anyway. Love your madonnna/whore complex. This is really odd to me that you set your goal to get laid, figure out what works and then have such angst towards the ones you are “gaming”. It is almost like me going hunting in the woods and hating the deer for being a dumbass and getting caught in my trap.
If I had a sister I would tell her the same thing.
Who catches deer in traps? female troll.
You should write a post about when/how to go about explaining game to a younger brother or son.
How long do you guys think this age of easy sex will last? Past our lifetimes?
#5 it was an analogy and I am nota female troll. You hate legitimate questions
Wow. So by definition you automatically disrespect and are repulsed by the very kind of women you seek out. Dude, no offense… but that’s effed up : P
Roosh said….”I know that I’m living a special time that takes advantage of perverse cultural loopholes” -I agree, yes game helps, but the greatest advantage in having easy sex, is living in a sick society, the best pick up artists would not be scoring so high in 1950 america or 1930 or 1880. america and the west are peaking or have already peaked in terms of debauchery and soul sickness, i predict massive change is coming, it wont be gradual, we will see a revolution on many fronts in the west, and sexual mores may become more stringent then in saudi arabia. The degenerate change agents pushed too far, the pendulum must now swing to the other side.
Of course it’s a hunt. That’s part of the thrill of conquest/success.
That’s the way of the world (at least here in America). These women don’t deserve our respect when they, as the gatekeepers to sex, give it up so freely. We’re just here to capitalize on this.
You have a point about deluded sluts who give up sex with no challenge yet expect relationships. But that speech you gave your sister has a bunch of whole other issues wrapped up in it. I’ve known girls who got those types of speeches. Those are the ones with the worst sense of entitlement, magic pussy syndrome: the delusion that they are good people and bring something major to the table just by having a vagina that isn’t worn out.
Czekamy na Ciebie w Polska
“Czekamy na Ciebie w Polska”
That should be “w Polsce”, dumbass.
“The only way a man will value you is if you made him put in a lot of investment before sex.”
Dude, you sound like the Rules.
For a man worth his salt, for a man who’s not desperate, in the long term, his pre-sex investment is irrelevant. If the girl is not quality, he’s not going to stick around. It’s not a god damn annuity.
There are other reasons to make him wait – if they’re a great match, then he should have no problem waiting a month or more. But only quality’s worth the wait.
The real trouble with waiting is that American girls are so slutty and attention hungry they crush on a new guy every week. And once your week’s over, you’re done. So waiting is an exercise in self-immolation.
Honestly, if a woman is to maintain a healthy respect and appreciation for men, she has to avoid venues where attention whoring is the order of the day – most bars, clubs, Twitter, “having only guy friends” etc.
@ 11 – pretty nieve to think this way in my opinion. I mean y the disgust and disrespect? I understand not pining after them like a hopeless romantic or giving them a high ranking. But whats with the hatred? If I take the logic your presenting it is like you owuld rather they not give it up. I mean if you go and eat mcdonalds you dont turn around and bitch at mcdonalds for serving food that is sub-par….
I almost miss the days of injecting my contempt into women through my dick. Almost.
Yes, a quality man will only stick around if he really likes the girl and thinks she is worth putting in the time with. He will only invest in the first place if he thinks he is getting quality in return. However, if you put out early it also tends to signal that you aren’t a quality girl and aren’t worth investing further in. Either way putting out early means a girl is more likely to be treated as expendable.
Why the disgust and disrespect? Because these women have no self control or respect for themselves and give up their bodies every week to a new guy. I enjoy smashing new pussy, but that doesn’t mean I’ll respect her for being easy.
As the gatekeepers to poon, the burden of self-control is on the women… not men.
Again, I’m not complaining because I’ll continue taking advantage of this system until my dick falls off.
However, if you put out early it also tends to signal that you aren’t a quality girl and aren’t worth investing further in.
I think this is way too broad a generalization, personally. I don’t think a girl giving it up to you quickly indicates low quality any more than a girl giving it up to you only after making you wait a long time indicates high quality.I think you’ve got to take a lot of other information into account before making that conclusion.
For example I’ve knew a girl who make some guys wait, because they’ve been slotted in the beta provider category, but meanwhile behind their backs WHILE these guys were still waiting and congratulating themselves for finding “special” and “good” girls, these same chicks met my friends and had one-night stands with them. In fact, part of the reason they could wait so long with the beta providers is because they were secretly getting sex from alphas on the side. Guys have such big egos they always assume a chick who’s making them wait is just sitting home twiddling her thumbs and reading scripture or something.
The title of this post had “American” in it. That’s because after you fuck an American girl, there is nothing worth sticking around for. You got the best part of her.
I’ve fucked foreign girls very quickly as well, but they have so much more to offer that I do stick around, and don’t resent them at all for it. In fact, whether a foreign girl fucks me quickly or not doesn’t matter because she’s probably a joy to spend time with. I’ve waited up to five dates for foreign girls and didn’t mind much since we were building a connection (things were getting better/deeper). That rarely happens with an American girl. It’s that same night or nothing… for my own long-term well-being and sanity.
@20 makes sense. I just got this vibe that you and roosh act mean toward them and couldnt figure that part out. I guess if they are giving it away most will take it. but I wouldnt really consider “game” having anything to do with getting a slut in bed. I mean a slut is a slut and will take whatever – like you said no challenge. Now if you apply game to girls that are a challenge and get your way then that gets my respect in my opinion.
I think most men would’ve rather had a life where they had their pick of pretty, feminine, wifely girls a couple years younger to choose from and marry when they were in their early twenties. Most men would gladly grow old with a woman as long as he got her when she was young, pretty, and had very little, if any, cock.
Feminism and marriage 2.0 turned all that on its ass. Today’s men see these women who would’ve been their brides, obsessed with carouseling and SATCing. They are offered the damaged leftovers when the carousel begins groaning to a halt.
In light of this climate, Roosh’s position is sound. I would advise the same thing to my sister or brother.
Women today just don’t seem to get that every single cock they have lowers their value tremendously, and that they should only give it up in relationships. While men should be advised the opposite because otherwise they won’t have the experience to be the leader in their relationship. Yeah, it’s a dichotomy, unfair, yada yada…it is nature. Deal with it.
“I told her that while she will see many girls pretending to enjoy fucking guys who don’t give a shit about them, they are not happy. ”
I think we all who have some human in us left, would like to think so, but how could we be sure? At least in my country Finland the chicks seem to have pussies made of steel. I am sorry to be born in this shit place…
Except as far as the hockey WC goes:
We beated the shit out of “Tre Tutar”.
Most of what you write is true (except maybe the first line – which is irrelevant). The thing is that your too hung up in your own dogma to be able to see that what you posit isn’t a bad thing. I wouldn’t use the term “madonna” (which infers too much about the judgment of men), but yes, there are better behaved women and there are whores. That distinction means a lot to a man when it comes down to the future relationship (sex, ltr, etc) that he will have with her. That’s because there is specific female psychology inherent to each condition. Delineating between the two isn’t actually a “complex”. Its just common sense and self preservation for the man.
And I wouldn’t call it hate under any circumstance (a strange choice of words), but yes, your last analogy is true as well. Its more the feeling hat comes when you realize that you know a woman 80% before you have any right to know her. Its mildly disappointed amusement with an upside. But again, its not bad, It just is.
Yes, they bring something major to the table by virtue of not having a vagina that is worn out. That has been a value that has been a part of every society since the dawn of civilization. There are reasons for that.
Someone is deluded, but I’m sure its human civilization and not you.
I’ve seen girls say this on the internet in random places, like Texts From Last Night and elsewhere. The sentiment is “If I really like him, I’ll make him wait. It’s the assholes I sleep with soon.”
I agree, giving it up quick, all else equal, isn’t a disqualifier. My best relationship started with sex on the first date. The girl who’s been on the carousel too many times may make you wait just the same, because she’s lost her heart and is now just in damage control mode.
American girls think there’s nothing sluttier than sex on the first date, yet a one night stand is the mark of a strong woman.
Hey Roosh.just wondering if you plan or care on Gaming Ukraine?it looks to be a hop and a skip from Poland.
“All men are pigs.”
That’s an old feminist slogan. And there is nothing wrong with pigs. They are friendly, gracious creatures whose tasty meat contributes more to the well being of society than those marxist-feminists’ zealotry.
Excellent post, Roosh. You are a humanitarian.
For all those noobs and spergs who continually ask “Why the hate?” I will telRoosh wouldn’t continue to post things like this if he didn’t love women on some level. I think what he hates is the fact that the SMP is so dysfunctional, that game and the rake lifestyle has become a necessity, unless you’re one of the lucky few guys to actually get with a girl like Roosh’s sister-and women like her, as another commenter pointed out, has its own set of entitlement issues which still necessitates game of a different sort. Nonetheless, in the modern post-industrial sociosexual milieu in which we live, men MUST learn the concepts of human evolutionary biological behaviorism, a.k.a how to be charismatic for fun and profit, a.k.a game.
Second sentence above should begin “I will tell you Roosh…”
Also, your perspective is fine as long as no one expects anything further out of it than sex. I completely agree with that perspective of ‘not caring about the sex life of women that I sleep with’. There’s no issue with that on the mans side (usually) when its just sex. As a matter of fact, men would be advised to be non-judgmental if their goal is sex. They will get more of it if they are so.
Ironically, its the woman that wants to be able to act like a whore, not be judged for it, but still have high quality LTR options. She wants it all. It doesn’t work that way in the real world. Being adult is about making sacrifices in what we want out of life. Women that want to be promiscuous, not be judged for it, and then settle down with 2.5 kids and a winner of a husband (a man with a lot of options and who knows female psychology well) are deluded children. But if women dont want that, then more power to them and I say let them do whatever they want to do.
However, its usually when promiscuous women try and make it happen with men that they actually like as LTR partners that they start blaming men for having “madonna/whore” complexes. All of a sudden its the mans fault because she has made herself an undesirable market option.
Does this only apply to American girls? The impression you gave of Scandinavia would make it look like this letter would apply to them as well.
Why do you describe your own desires as shallow? That’s fucking retarded.
Girls are not giving it up to all men. About 20% of men are banging the majority of the girls out there, whereas there are girls give it up a lot more evenly across the board (in America).
“but I wouldnt really consider “game” having anything to do with getting a slut in bed. I mean a slut is a slut and will take whatever – like you said no challenge. Now if you apply game to girls that are a challenge and get your way then that gets my respect in my opinion.”
If it weren’t game, more guys would be getting action from these “sluts.” I never said it wasn’t a challenge, I said I don’t have respect for a girl who gives it up so quickly (to me, not every guy on the street).
Roosh pretty much sums it up in #22.
@22(Roosh) – It seems like your gripe has to do with something lacking in most yankee chicks and NOT about when or how much sex they have.
That I can dig. My own experience says the same.
But thinking that felines are somehow “worthless” because they need sex just as much as us “pigs” do is silly.
On a side note – I’ve never lost respect for a chick after I banged if I respected her in the first place. But maybe that’s just me.
When do you ever respect someone you just met 2-4 hours before (or that amount combined)?
Agreed that making a guy wait isn’t even close to a foolproof sign that someone is a quality girl, for all the reasons you have listed.
However, if she does give it up quickly that is a fairly good sign that she isn’t a quality girl.
“right now I’m reminded of 21-year-old I fucked a few months ago. She couldn’t help but tell me she has already slept with “over 10″ guys, essentially bragging about it. I was probably number 18 or 19, and believe me when I say I didn’t feel at all privileged about fucking her.
By the time that slut is 24 it will be impossible for her not have experienced 30 cocks, but she’s empowered and independent, right? This is what you’ve brought into the world. Needless to say but I didn’t ask her out again.”
“I’ve fucked foreign girls very quickly as well, but they have so much more to offer that I do stick around, and don’t resent them at all for it.”
What was the nationality of this 21 year old you fucked a few months ago? A few months ago, you were in Iceland, right? Was she American?
Nice comment by hydrogonian. Women want their cake and eat it too. Roosh’s lesson to his sister was to wake her up at an early age. Too many girls are putting off marriage to have fun in their 20′s without realizing what consequences there will be. Well, that is becoming apparent as time goes on and men wise up.
As for someone’s comment about Scandinavia. I’ve personally heard several swedish women remark how their men are “weak”. I even learned that many men have been taught that it’s “rude” to approach women aggressively. That region has become very feminized.
Roosh, I love your stuff, but your sympathy for the left isn’t my cup of tea. I’m not going to be the commetator who’s dumb enough to tell you what you can put on your website, but I do have a question for you:
-per your tweets, you’re upset that Obama isn’t the lftists redistributionalist anti-war guy he promised to be, and that he’s beholden to “big business.” Can you name a government in history where rich people and groups didn’t have the majority of power?
dude, the truest thing i’ve read in a long time
i tried explaining this to a european ex of mine a few years back, but like you said, she threw the blame back on me, my insecurities and judgementalness
i suspect she has not mentioned to her current long term bf about her long service history and for her sake, i hope she doesn’t
Sure do hope your sister is better looking than you — if she isn’t — I pity the poor girl. Can’t stand hypocrites — uglies wanting pretty girls or duds thinking they are entitled to sex — but the chick they **cked is a “whore.” Everyone should raise their standards — men and women.
Straight up gospel, Roosh. Every word is on point.
you’re seeing sex the wrong way. Ir’s not men using women. It is both enjoying mutual pleasure. also your post smacks of hypocrisy. I imagine you’re not happy either. Some facts
1. Marriage as defined is primarily for an agricultural society. We need a new system for bringing up kids. We will figure it out if the givernment just gets out of the way. But they don’t.
2. women no longer are property of men or of the tribe. They earn as much as any of us and are free to have bodily gratification
3. Sure there are consequences. There always are. And you can tell them about it.
Also I can’t imagine how a guy with your sort of mindset get’s laid. I guess you got this mindset after becoming good with women. If you had this mindset while starting out, you would have been celibate.
To all you newbs in the game following Roosh. His techniques are good, but his mindset sucks. With this mindset, you will NOT get laid. He’s reached the critical mass where he will get laid no matter what. But for you guys trying to get momentum on your side, this mindset is fatal. In order to get laid, you have to treat sex like a great gift from God to make a tough life a little bit easier on this earth. That’s the only way you will be fun to hang out with and convince women to get down naked with you. Read this guy often enough and you will become a bitter, angry, funless loser who scares or depresses women.
Photo of Arnold’s girlfriend……. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/05/19/us/19schwarzenegger-cnd/19schwarzenegger-cnd-popup.jpg
“All men are pigs. Yes, even I am a pig. All we want is to have sex with the least amount of effort.”
All women eventually realize this. The magic is that they still need men in spite of the fact.
I just vomited.
ROOSH… you got me thinking… if you meet a girl who’s been educated like your sister, what do you do? (assuming you’re attracted)
A) Let her go
B) Try and break her resolve down (how?)
C) Try and stick with her for a relationship
What do y’all think?
Must be looking at Roosh V’s picture. He looks like a Neaderthal — the jutting forehead, the ape like hair, no doubt yellow teeth and stinking breath — excuse me, I just hurled all over my computer keyboard.
Arnies baby momma is proof that:
1. Guys will fuck anything – as long as there is opportunity and proximity.
2. Women will fuck any man who is alpha: status, money, power ….even if he is married w/ children
3. Looks aren’t the end all and be all for women.
4. Maria Shriver was not putting out or putting out sufficiently ….
This blog is morphing into amateur hour. I think its time to acquire a new interest in life, Roosh, besides your cock and balls. No one gives a shit about them but you anyway
today a guy Can treat a chick like crap and she’ll still give it up if she is into a guy.
the mindset that roosh has is like mine.
Women are natural born whores+im taking stock in it.
“Obama isn’t the lftists redistributionalist anti-war guy he promised to be, and that he’s beholden to “big business.””
When did Obama promise to be leftist(as opposed to liberal)? When did he promise to be “redistributionalist” other than Healthcare which he did attempt but couldn’t get pass congress? When did he promise to be anti-war? He did pretty much what he said he was going to do. Wind down the war on Iraq, concentrate on Afghanistan and get Bin Ladin, he certainly broke no promises there. And where did he say he was going to be anti big business? I think you’re buying into a bunch of caricatures.
Anyway, back to the main topic in response to Roosh’s actual post. I think this is a good template with which to approach your sister or daughter if you one day have one. I think acknowledging that men have some sort of conquest nature is a starting point. Just as women have to admit they have a gene for seeking out the dominant male. I wouldn’t say all men are pigs. I’ve known quite a few men that want nothing more than to meet a nice girl, provide and start a family. Whether those guys were born that way or socialized out of their conquest nature, I don’t know. But we are all flexible to a great extent, which is why we don’t live like other primates. I don’t blame any guy for taking advantage of the sex situation in the Western culture. It may seem hypocritical on the surface to advocate conquest to your brother, but reservation for your sister, but once you acknowledge that men and women have COMPETING interests that is based in our hard-wiring, then it seems sensible. I’d tell my daughter everything Roosh said above. If I had a son, I wouldn’t tell him to smash every vag in sight, nor would I tell him not too. I’d just make sure he grew up fearless of women and had the tools to attract what he wants. Something I was never given as a teen and spent many dateless years in high school and college trying to figure out on my own.
God bless you Roosh.
Game is somewhat like a male version of shit-testing. We pursue sex as assholes and see whether a chick will give in, only to be somewhat disappointed that she basically fails the test by doing so. Ultimately, we’re “pleased”, yet unhappy, as we were kinda hoping to find something worthy of love.
Eh, prolly not.
@37 – I dig the point your trying to make. But just to make sure I follow:
Because a chick is easy for you, they must be easy for every dude with a belt to notch. Therefore, they have almost no sense of value. And you can’t personally respect a woman with no sense of value. Right?
What I’m saying is, a relationship-caliber feline is worth more than what’s between her legs. Her “put out schedule” has no bearing on whether she’s a quality chick or whether I do (or will) respect her. If she’s fucking grain-brained neanderthals that’s one thing… but I’m not a neanderthal and she chose me… so… how can I think badly of her?
I’ve never felt like I’m tainting a woman when we tango. Don’t matter if it takes 2 hours or 2 months. She isn’t disgusting to me because she wants my dick. She’s just a normal, red blooded woman. *shrugs*
Besides, what’s so “disgusting” about women digging sex as much as you do, you ole’ conquester you?
good points, especially no. 4
also, perhaps maria was a dead lay and the other woman is unlikely to have been, as she would’ve been trading up
Great post but there is no need to call men pigs or tell that they are shallow, because they want looks and sex from women more than anything else.
Truth is, men are more spiritual due to having the creative root and less animalistic than women, who are slaves to their impulses to a much greater extent. Therefore women value spiritual qualities in men, because that is what makes them men, and men value more animalistical qualities in women, because anything more would turn women into transvestite pseudo-men (that is also happening in west today).
The that all men are pigs and shallow compared to women is among the greatest misunderstandings and projections in history.
As long as people perceive themselves as individuals, both sexes will continue to insult and degrade each other. Truth is a union of a man and one or more women must be perceived as a single unit by both themselves and the whole of society, because as individuals they both have flaws, but together they are whole. Sadly in the society of feminism, such a perception is not supported by the brainwashed society, that just itches to destroy and separate any relationship at the slightest possibility.
“To all you newbs in the game following Roosh. His techniques are good, but his mindset sucks. With this mindset, you will NOT get laid. He’s reached the critical mass where he will get laid no matter what. But for you guys trying to get momentum on your side, this mindset is fatal. In order to get laid, you have to treat sex like a great gift from God to make a tough life a little bit easier on this earth. That’s the only way you will be fun to hang out with and convince women to get down naked with you. Read this guy often enough and you will become a bitter, angry, funless loser who scares or depresses women.”
Troll? Wrong. This mindset is a result of taking the red pill, because this is the way of the world. It is the only way to understand why you need to use game to bang a lot of quality women. Without it, your morals and conscience will get the best of you and you won’t be able to cope with the reality — aka the dark side of game.
“1. Guys will fuck anything – as long as there is opportunity and proximity.”
I definitely won’t fuck anything below a 4 and I know plenty of guys who won’t either, period.
Just end it all man. Jump.
The problem with most women, as can be inferred from the female trolls in the comments, is that they don’t want to take responsibility/accept the consequences of their actions (whether they be bad or good). That’s one of the first rules of being an adult. You can get banged by as many dudes as you want but if a guys doesn’t want to be with you long-term because of this, that’s his choice (just like most women’s 500 bullet point list of must-haves for a guy is their choice).
@ J – dont you guys meet any women that are quality? I have met plenty of quality, fun, intelligent women that are just as down to get laid. Some of the funnest chiks out there are those with a somewhat tomboy attitude. I mean there are plenty of women that are slutty but not blatent and could care less about long term relationships. Maybe its justa matter of picking the wrong kind of chik in the first place – one that just sucks overall and is need and not a funtion of slut or not slut.
Not all men are pigs, oh yes they are the nice guys you despise as not real men. I have no clue why you preached your sister that, but then again I do not live in the states. Some guys prefer to go the dating route to find out if a female is worth the risk of sticking his cock in her, and calculating whether or not he will get a scorching case of herpes or some other incurable STD. American females are walking toxic waste dumps, but the STD risk is less in other countries. One can safely say that the family is being destroyed by the government faster than anything.
No offense but I work nites at a store next to a younger crowd type of bar( 20 somethings)+I know all the girl who bartend there.
They are “Pretty”+”cute” and “fun” etc.. however they are that way when they are sober.but when they come in to my work drunk as hell+all pilled up.I beleive their true selves shine through.
Just all kinda of evil and venom ooze out of these chicks character.(just really shitty tudes+the whole 9 yards)Did I also mention that they steal from or store too.Grown ass women,ok!!
then they wonder why I never ask them out in the 3 years ive been working there.
Lately one of them has been trying to look all preppy and wear sexy glasses thinking that is gona make her look more respectable.OK yeah,please
sorry but, YOU CANT POLISH A TURD! end off story.
“For a man worth his salt, for a man who’s not desperate, in the long term, his pre-sex investment is irrelevant. If the girl is not quality, he’s not going to stick around. It’s not a god damn annuity.”
That’s true, but think of it this way: no matter how much you’re into her, if she puts out early for you you’ll always be wondering — it’ll always be nagging at the back of your mind — whether she did it because of you yourself or because she’d do it with other men. Of course holding out forever isn’t the only component to making a quality girl get commitment. It’s just a prerequisite.
“dont you guys meet any women that are quality? I have met plenty of quality, fun, intelligent women that are just as down to get laid. Some of the funnest chiks out there are those with a somewhat tomboy attitude. I mean there are plenty of women that are slutty but not blatent and could care less about long term relationships. Maybe its justa matter of picking the wrong kind of chik in the first place – one that just sucks overall and is need and not a funtion of slut or not slut.” 64 Anonymous
I think the point that Roosh was making is that women like this, deep down, are not happy. They think that enjoying “independence” empowers them, but instead it just causes tons of internal conflict and emotional problems. A friend in my own circle of friends was a PRIME example. She’s highly intelligent (went to USC and majored in Gerontology – she’s a scientist), though you wouldn’t know it because she can be quite “ghetto.” She’s that girl that’s always down to hang with the fellas (she has two brothers, so she’s comfortable around guys doing what guys do, and how guys talk, etc.). She has a crew of single girlfriends that like to hang and party too (one of my best friends, who went to USC with her, has fucked no less than 5 of her girls over the years). A few years ago we had a bachelor weekend in Vegas (where she lives) for one of our friends. She, and a couple of her girls participated (they were right there when we had a couple of “strippers” in the hotel room for the groom, with porno playing on the tv), and also came to the Spearmint Rhino with us. One of my other boys , who’s married (SURPRISE…he needed some pussy because his wife wasn’t fucking him) ended up fucking her (they had a fling some years before, and the attraction was still there, and she too hadn’t been fucked in a couple of years). After he smashed her, she broke down and started crying (DRAMA!). She was tired of being treated like “one of the guys” and wanted to be seen as girlfriend material. She wanted off the cock carousel, and wanted to settle down. Shortly thereafter, she hooked up with an alpha-type, and they’re living together and thinking about marriage later this year. She’s 40 now, and says she doesn’t want kids. Her girlfriends all complain about not meeting decent guys. She told them all to stop complaining – there would be lots of single guys, that she could vouch for at the get-together. And what did one of the girls do? She clung to the only other married guy in the group! They’ll talk about what they want, but when presented to them they’re scared to step up and make it happen.
So obviously women like that are not happy. Well, anyway it is hard to be with a girl like that and trust in her willingness to stay faithful. For a swinger relationship she would do well at any rate I am sure
Maybe willingness to commit is just a caprice. I would not trust a girl who has had dozens of cocks at least not to marry. She will start missing the cock carousel again Why should she not, I mean as men we all miss pussy even if in committed relationships, are you saying women are better??
Fucking believers! I feel the atmosphere on this pedestalising and glorifying women. You could cut it with kniwfe. From a Finnish mans’ perspective it sucks. In this land of sluts, you have got no illusions, but sure I know also that it always gets better no matter in what direction you head from here. I am not blaming Roosh for having a bad “mindset” or whatever
“I would not trust a girl who has had dozens of cocks at least not to marry. She will start missing the cock carousel again”
You missed “she too hadn’t been fucked in a couple of years”
Not much of a carousel. She should ask for her money back.
Every female troll on this blog and Roosh Forum secretly wants to be fucked by Roosh.
They’re obsessed with his caveman like physique and mind, the broad shoulders, the ample hair, and the balls to dare say the shockers that makes one’s jaw drop.
They find themselves inexplicably drawn to his manly qualities that separates him from the pussies. And they are, in truth, disgusted at themselves for feeling such strong attractions toward him.
What human being, regardless of gender, would give a fuck about someone, or some stupid blog they don’t really care about?
It’s not that they want to defend women: It’s that they desperately want to deny and disqualify their feelings for Roosh, while being utterly unable to do so.
Every woman reader and commentator on this blog should be honest to themselves and drop their panties and run to Roosh fully naked and exposed with their legs open RIGHT NOW. It’ll make them happy for being honest. It’ll fulfill their dire need. It’ll complete them. It’ll make them woman.
@70…she WAS definitely on the carousel for a while. At the time of the bachelor weekend, she was in her mid-30s, so she was at that point where she wanted off. She hadn’t met a guy during those couple of years that she wanted to be exclusive with and was feeling somewhat desperate. Bumping back into a guy she had fucked in the past provided something familiar and safe, but also brought a shitload of emotions back to the surface. She had definitely gotten her money’s worth though…HA HA!
How unfortunate that you indoctrinated your sister with your sexist pig attitudes when she was young.
She should be sampling men widely in her too-short youth, just as you are sampling women.
For her its even more important, though, because her biological clock runs faster.
She should not be wasting her time now multi year monogomous LTRs … instead she should be finding out what kind of men she really likes, & what kind really like her.
In short, she should be acting more like the American sisters that you pump even as you hold them in contempt.
Your double standard – that lots of notches is a source of pride for a man, but a source of shame for a woman – is medieval and appalling.
Americans generally don’t buy that crap no more.
Don’t blame yourself too much – it’s probably got more to do with the middle eastern heritage you & your sister both share than with anything you told her.
How long do you think it would take a really good game guy to bed your sister?
If she weren’t your sister, do you think you’d have a shot?
If your game is really that good: go get your Saudi flag.
Expatriates don’t count, it must be in Saudi Arabia.
@73 Rael…if you been reading this blog, or others for any length of time, you’d know that even men that consider themselves superior gamesmen acknowledge that there’s little chance of notching an indigenous, non-hooker in certain countries due to religious/cultural barriers.
I would think that double-standard you speak of exists for most men with sisters, or with any woman they care about. They’ll do shit to another woman that they’d kill a dude for doing to a woman they care about (which is why rapists aren’t popular in the joint – even the most hardened criminal has women that they care about). There’s no crime in trying to educate your own sister about men and their motives. And no matter what Roosh told her, she made her own decisions largely guided by her own compass.
Like a lot of guys here, I think Roosh’s relationship with women is…complicated.
Roosh, do you ever wonder why you seem to hate (on some level) the very women you’re chasing? And what makes you think a woman who makes you wait for sex is “worth it”? I’ve always thought that was silly.
I don’t think it’s a contradiction to be critical of the very women we fuck. If you live in America, and you like pussy, there isn’t much choice. Most of us don’t have the luxury of being able to spend months on end in foreign lands pursuing better options. It’s just a matter of finding one here in the US that you can stand for long enough to fuck her. If you get along with her, maybe you’ll want to fuck her over a period of time. And it isn’t as if American women can’t go on for hours on end about what’s wrong with men, and they still let us fuck them on occasion.
the key that can open many locks is priceless
the lock that can be opened by any key is worthless
Wow that key analogy has really degraded, like in a game of telephone.
To be fair, Roosh, your amount of sexual experience and the resulting jadedness has probably wrecked you too in the long run. There’s not a hint of innocence or simple wonder in most of what you write. You’re a complex person that’s entered alot of dark alleys, and I highly doubt this female archetype you idealize will be able to compensate for that.
I agree that a person’s sexual history tells you something about them, but though society doesn’t like to say so, extreme male promiscuity has its own consequences too. You’re NEVER going to want the buffet to end. You really think when you find your unicorn the others will disappear? What next? Cheat like a scumbag? Be upfront and risk losing her entirely? Or what happens if, god forbid, you find out another stallion has been mounting the unicorn? It will get interesting, and I’m sure will offer plenty of fodder for jaded wisdom
I can’t help but think of men’s interests vs. womens’ as a supply and demand curve struggling to reach equilibrium.
It always makes me laugh when authors/commenters of the manosphere suggest that “women should stop giving it up so easily”. Really?
Let me get this straight. Most guys here (correctly, in my estimation) liken the dynamics of the current sexual marketplace to the pareto principle, whereby a minority of men are copulating with a majority of the women, and where the majority of men are either sexually malnourished or sexually starved… and you’re suggesting that women should make it [i]harder[/i] to get laid? Does not compute.
Underhanded bragging, or plain old cognitive dissonance? I vote for a little bit of both. Despite their obvious understanding of the SMP, such men are merely trying to advertise how impervious they are in the face of such dystopian conditions, though I doubt it’s an entirely deliberate process. Reads something like “I understand how female hypergamy unleashed has ruined it for the average guy, but watch as I take the moral highground by telling women to adopt more conservative values, implicitly reminding you that my irresistible self can handle it because I sit on top of the food chain anyway”.
Why do so many guys engage in such pointless showboating on the internet? Who the fuck knows, but it highlights one of the main reasons why I have a hard time taking some of you seriously when it comes to SMP discussions. Some of you are way too emotionally invested in your capacity to attract women, and it permeates through your every word, ultimately tainting the message you’re trying to convey.
Hate to say it but you’re spot on here. I enjoy this blog for the most part but this post really is, as you say, pointless showboating
“Let me get this straight. Most guys here (correctly, in my estimation) liken the dynamics of the current sexual marketplace to the pareto principle, whereby a minority of men are copulating with a majority of the women, and where the majority of men are either sexually malnourished or sexually starved… and you’re suggesting that women should make it [i]harder[/i] to get laid?”
It’s not that simple (this is why discussions on sexual dynamics with hardcore game aficionados, Roosh excepted, is largely a waste of time). If women are less inclined to put out early, male behavior correspondingly changes: peacocking and aggressive game is less rewarded (or even discouraged), women have less experience with high intensity men, meaning betas have longer and more stable relationships, men who would otherwise be able to bank on the positive feedback loop (i.e. women reward success with more success; they prefer promiscuous men) are dragged back down to reality, etc. These are all trends that foster relationships between average men and women, rather than exceptional men and average women.
Women just “not putting out”, of course, is silly: this is not, I think, what Roosh fully intended. But as I said, it is a prerequisite to any return to functioning monogamy.
> For a man worth his salt, for a man who’s not desperate, in the long term, his pre-sex investment is irrelevant. If the girl is not quality, he’s not going to stick around. It’s not a god damn annuity.
You nailed it, can’t agree more.
A girl’s high or low quality/value independent of the number of her sexual partners or how quickly or often she puts out. Of course, all other things being equal, a vigin is slightly preferable to a whore (to most people). However but if her sexual history is the factor which tips the scales, then she probably doesn’t many noteworthy qualities going for her to begin with.
The problem is, feminism actively discourages American women from showing feminine qualities. They’re taught from an early age to treat men with contempt, so most guys (like Roosh) somewhat rightfully just hold their nose long enough to get them to bed. Quite sad for both genders, actually. A date with a traditionally raised East Asian woman is a world of difference.
If your game is really that good: go get your Saudi flag.
Expatriates don’t count, it must be in Saudi Arabia.
Trying to get roosh killed, eh, sista? More dead men means more power for the lesbians, huh? Power to the people!
Squared gets cubed:
It always makes me laugh when authors/commenters of the manosphere suggest that “women should stop giving it up so easily”. Really?
The world we prefer is not the world of reality. We adapt to reality.
@83 Excellent post. Spot on II
@84 Learn English.
@rael A key that opens many locks is a master key, a lock that is opened by many keys is a shitty lock.
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Roosh your post is again quite perceptive…which is why your site continues to be so popular.
The comment about women turning themselves into a “petri dish” is most important..and most denied by feminists.
A woman who has sex with dozens of men is catching dozens of low-level STDs and is seriously screwing up her reproductive system. This is why historically women with few partners are valued…they are more likely to be reproductively successful.
This is well understood by medical researchers, but of course fanatically denied by feminists.
The double standard that feminists screech about is based on hard cold reality — women’s biology is so different from men’s, the double standard simply reflects this reality.
@94 Jim Brick…you make an important point – it’s easier for women to contract many STDs from men than the other way around. It’s simple biology, in that we literally INJECT them with infected fluids. I have this discussion with women all the time, and they hate it. I always tell them if they get pregnant, it’s THEIR fault. I get the predictable response that “it takes two,” and similar responses. Yeah, sure. But if a man doesn’t want to wear a condom, and you let him penetrate and explode inside you anyway, you WANTED TO GET PREGNANT. Granted, guys that blast away without condoms aren’t the brightest either, and I get how the moment can be overwhelming. Just the same, women are the ones that get pregnant (and are stuck with the kid), or assume the greater risk of disease. Any woman that won’t stand up to a guy and MAKE him put on a condom, or get out (and I don’t know any man that would opt for NO PUSSY over pussy with a condom on), deserves whatever consequences that come from unprotected sex.
I think there are more bitter guys on here than bitterfemale trolls…jesus
wow. no offense, but this whole thing is pretty dim. just because there are men that view women as sex objects with pussies to “slay” doesn’t mean that all men are so ..uh.. base. one would hope that there are some men that actually respect women, you know, because they’re human beings and not just holes to be penetrated and exploded in. and just like a man, if a woman just wants to have sex, she probably just will. being sexual that doesn’t make her a slut or some kind of idiot — this isn’t the ’50s right? this whole school of thought is so dated and irrelevant and kind of lame. and i don’t that anyone can really say what makes all women feel good or bad “deep down inside.” that would be a pretty amazing feat. rather than teach a girl how to avoid the shitty men of the world, why not teach your little brother not to be a shitty man. maybe support mutual respect of men to women and vice versa. i think we’ve all progressed past this right? we’re smarter than this right? god I hope so..
You exhibit some ability to think and craft a point of view, but also skim so superficially on the surface of the issue as to cause the reader to conclude that you’ve thought this out for all of 5 seconds.
The issue obviously goes far beyond “notch psychology” and the individual short term reward of getting laid. You just haven’t chosen to explore it beyond that, and hence your perception of the existence of cognitive dissonance. The perspective has nothing to do with bragging. Its about the social structure of society and the consequences of that structure.
If you feel slighted by that POV because you are still trying to get girls to sleep with you, then I can assure you that your getting laid will still be assured with the right game. However, the long term rewards of your hard earned sex life would be better if women, as a group, weren’t so socially free to be promiscuous.
Also, your last paragraph ironically does exhibit cognitive dissonance and typical dishonest argument tactics…
You’re somehow trying to shame people that don’t agree with your view, or who post about PUA psychology on a PUA psychology website, as being too emotionally involved with picking up women…as you post on the PUA website complaining about the perspectives laid forth as disagreeing with your own philosophy on how you relate to women.
“A girl’s high or low quality/value independent of the number of her sexual partners or how quickly or often she puts out. Of course, all other things being equal, a vigin is slightly preferable to a whore (to most people). However but if her sexual history is the factor which tips the scales, then she probably doesn’t many noteworthy qualities going for her to begin with.”
Extremely well put. It’s wierd that guys like Roosh and Roissy have still got this part backwards (like most people). I’m not sure what they’re thinking – there’s some magical virgin or chick with a low number of sexual partners who’s therefore perfect? Give me a break! It’s this kind of thinking that got us the 9/11 guys! (ok, kind of an exaggeration…but not that much of one!)
I think the problem with women is that they run their mouths. They put their business out on the street, opening themselves up for judgment. It’s no one’s business how many men they’ve fucked, but they feel compelled to talk because of insecurity. They fear judgment, then give others the reason to do so. I’ve never asked a woman about her past, but if a woman volunteered a number, you almost have no choice but to give pause.
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Remember, a women who sleeps with a lot of men has seriously damaged her reproductive system. Her immune system and endocrine system is fucked up by trying to adapt to the many different genotypes of those men. Even blow jobs cause significant changes in her system.
In addition to the normal Herpes, Gonorrea types of STDs, there are literally hundreds of “minor” STDs that nobody even pays attention to. Every sex encounter transmits one more into her “petri dish” (LOL, still think that’s a great Rooshism).
Just as important or more important, is the emotional damage. If she’s a slut, then she is going to be a crappy wife, a crappy mom, and raise crappy kids. You as the dad will be legally and morally bound to care for those kids for the rest of your days. It is literally a form of indentured servitude, to have kids.
If those kids are great human beings, well then the servitude is painful but sweet, and you can live proud knowing that you sacrificed your freedom so that your children could grow up strong.
But if those kids are stunted little things, screwed up by an emotionally or reproductively damaged American slut wife, then your life is a living hell as you know that you are foreever enslaved to care for fucked-up children.
I’m lucky..found one of the last old-fashioned women in American and she’s been a great wife. I knock on wood every day hoping my luck holds.
But that was just random chance. For most guys, there are few or no American women who have any value whatsoever as wives or mothers.
Before you decide to call a person like roosh a hypocrite because he simultaneously appears to desire and be repulsed by sluts (i.e., madonna whore complex), consider this:
This is no different from a woman who seeks out a provider beta-boy and then after she conquers him, is repulsed by him. Is that an alpha-beta complex?
Richard Dawkins explains that we are essentially vessels that exist to continue our genes. All of our desires, drives, motivations and instincts are designed to ensure we pass our genes onto the next generation. The difference with humans is we happen to be self-aware. Nature doesn’t exactly care if you happen to have some kind of high-handed morality that tells you that trying to bed loose women is bad. Nature doesn’t care about anything – it’s amoral and simply is.
@Rael: You get upset with Roosh’s advice to his sister to take relationships seriously, even though you claim he can’t help it, since it is coded in his genes? Isn’t that… racist?
“Don’t blame yourself too much – it’s probably got more to do with the middle eastern heritage you & your sister both share than with anything you told her.”
Does anyone want to guess how many veiny cocks Rael has had?
I’d like to start the bidding at 60 cocks.
I think the marriage advice you gave to your sister is pretty outrageous.
By now, most 30 year-olds look good at 30. Well the girls I know anyway.
I am 31, I date a 24 year old. So what?
Getting married? I’ll leave that for later!
@102 Jim Brick:
“Remember, a women who sleeps with a lot of men has seriously damaged her reproductive system. Her immune system and endocrine system is fucked up by trying to adapt to the many different genotypes of those men. Even blow jobs cause significant changes in her system… there are literally hundreds of “minor” STDs that nobody even pays attention to.”
Sources? I work in the medical field and that sounds like absolute nonsense to me.
@ 106 Mulata
“By now, most 30 year-olds look good at 30. Well the girls I know anyway.”
Keep telling yourself that. Self delusion is an amazing thing, smh.
Well if you spoke to the 24 year old guy I am dating, he would tell you he certainely didn’t think I was 30 when we first met.
If I was insecure, I would probably be married by now, but instead, I’d rather still enjoy life.
Not really nice from you guys to try and undermine us like this.
An older woman dating a young man is not the same as the reverse situation. The point about marriage is, if you eventually decide to marry, will you be able to get the same caliber of man that you could when you were younger?
Also, looking good at 30 does not mean you look AS good as a 24 year old girl. Yes makeup can change things, but quality guys are not fooled by artificial youthful looks.
@#102 Jim Brick
Agree 100%. Well said. Now the question is… are sluts born or made?
I say they are 70% born and 30% made. Just like some guys develop into natural alphas, some women are born sluts. They fuck you like crazy – in bed and in life. So enjoy them, but make sure you leave them in the bed and not let them come into your life.
#1 trademark of the experienced slut = loose pussy.
If her pussy feels loose – just bang her in the ass!
@106 Mulata…if you are in fact as good looking as you say at 30, and you can say you don’t want marriage/family, then you’re golden right now. Men in their early/mid 20s will gladly sleep with you, men around your own age will, and older men will also find you attractive. Are you saying you NEVER want to get married and have kids, or are you going to wake up in a couple of years and suddenly decide you want all that? More women are waiting until around 30 start families, but the problem is they’re on a timetable that men don’t always agree with. They don’t have time for the couple of years of dating before getting engaged, tnen maybe another couple years of engagement, and then the couple of years of marriage before kids. They decide they need to do ALL of that in the space of a couple of years because of the biological clock. Many of those options you had at 30 are gone at 35. A younger man doesn’t want to marry you. A man around your age might marry you, but it’s probably his second marriage and he many already have all the kids he wants with his ex. That leaves older dudes, who may be cool with a companion younger than him, but doesn’t want to do the kid thing again either. You don’t want to end up in a situation where you’re changing an old dude’s diapers, or having a bunch of cats meowing at you to change their litter box.
@112 Timothy…From an early 30′s guy with a past marriage and kids, who has dated older and younger. Amen, you got it right.
I believe the reason why I have achieved a lot in my life, on a personal and professional level is that I have faced my fears and didn’t listen to other people’s opinions.
I’ve migrated to the UK from France at 20, then lived in Spain for one year. Travelled extensively, had a lot of fun. Learned a lot about who I am.
There is no way I would be the same satisfied, content and sereine person had I started hunting for a husband at 25 years old, out of fear of not finding one later.
I am puzzled at the motivation of these guys, to undermine women and make them believe such silly things.
At 20, I had a long relationship with a man witha lot of baggage. At 30, I have a relationship with a young guy with none.
This is the 21st century.
So to the girls that are reading this, I just want to say: just do what make you feel happy. Don’t settle down for the sake of it, you will regret it.
And if you can’t find a decent guy, come to London!!!
@Mulata You may look younger than 30, but your ovaries don’t. Your eggs are getting older and fewer for every month.
@Mulata…you appear to be leading an ideal life. And honestly, no one here is saying that women SHOULDN’T do what makes them happy. The issue is that most women think being in relationships constantly is what makes them happy. As you touched on earlier, it probably boils down to insecurity, which seems to be bred into many women (I won’t limit it to Americans). No matter how independent a woman says she is, there’s a hole in her life without a man. Most American women are extremely picky about things like age. They won’t date a man more than a couple of years younger, and many won’t do that either. They’re caught up in status and salary, and chances are a younger man won’t have those things. They’ll do the travel thing maybe right after high school or college, then it’s career, find a man, start a family. For them, that’s happiness. I think Europeans on the whole are more travel/culture oriented – I believe only 20% or so of Americans hold passports, and most of them use them to go to countries where they know English is spoken, or places like the Caribbean, or only the most popular tourist spots in Europe, but won’t leave their comfort zones.
The honest truth is that men have the luxury of time before settling down, women don’t. It’s great that you’ve enjoyed a life that has made you a better person. But your clock is ticking. Technically, you’ve been losing eggs, and genetic material in the eggs is degrading by the year since you were in your late teens. It’s also true that the more years past 30 you go, the harder it will be for you to marry and have children. If you decide you want that, and can find a much younger man that is willing, more power to you. The truth is it’s unlikely.
@ 116, THANK YOU genetic expert! : P
Here’s the facts: health problems for mother’s aged 24-34 are not considered significantly higher, and older mom’s have been linked to higher child IQs.
Meanwhile, older Dad’s (especially past late 30′s) have been linked to lower child IQs and other defects. So if men have “the luxury of waiting” it’s only by a few years.
(And for the benefit of humanity it seems like there should be a lot more younger man, older woman couples, they provided the best outcomes if those studies are correct.)
in general, how about don’t make up random pseudo-science theories to justify your own relationship hang-ups?
just saying “I personally prefer younger women” should be enough. you don’t have to “sciencize” it.
@117…you’re responding to something I never wrote. It’s fact that women have fewer and fewer eggs, and more and more less viable eggs as they get older. That’s not to say that MOST of them are unviable, or that they won’t have ENOUGH eggs. I made no comment on the “health” of women. No matter how healthy a woman is, how many good eggs they have is totally separate from that. And yes, older fathers can have bad sperm also. What you’re discussing has nothing to do with my post. Even for much younger women, we take for granted that it’s “easy” to get pregnant. It actually isn’t easy – there are plenty of young women, who supposedly have nothing wrong with them, that struggle to get pregnant. That isn’t pseudo-science. It’s fact(@118). And since you don’t actually know how old I am, your comment isn’t based in fact either. We were discussing Mulata’s age and issue, not mine.
medguy is a woman. Longtime female troll.
“don’t make up random pseudo-science theories to justify your own relationship hang-ups?”
Can you ever imagine a man saying the phrase “relationship hang-ups”?
ha i’m actually a dude. and i choose to read this site so that should tell you something about me. but it’s not true that a blowjob “causes significant changes in her immune system” etc.
gimme a fucking break, roosh : P
It’s highly possible that a man in his 70s or 80s can father a child. It’s virtually impossible for a woman at that age to do so. So while there may be some truth to the studies regarding IQ in children of older parents (how the IQ of children is relevant to the discussion is another issue), men potentially have forever to father children, women don’t. That’s biological fact. I wouldn’t recommend that men wait that long (like Hugh Hefner), but yeah, time IS more on a man’s side in that regard. Again, in theory, there are benefits to younger men having children with older mothers, but what does REALITY tell you? Younger men prefer women around their own age, or only slightly older if they want to marry and start families. Older men often trade in their older women for younger ones. And at 30, I don’t consider Mulata to be old. But in a few more years…
okay, fair enough.
Medguy, I will agree that I’d like to see some documentation regarding immune responses in women to taking my load in her mouth. I mean…I don’t want to be responsible for women getting sick…HA HA!
The advice to you sister is pretty good.
*chic noir shakes roosh’s hand*
All men are pigs.
for this you have an azz whipping waiting for you over at the Spearhead.
btw, i think most Americans do tell their daughters this(my dad and brothers did) but some women just want to do what boys do. I think men are built to enjoy s*x more than women are. Some women change men constantly looking for someone to satisfy them but it’s pointless for most women.
I cringe what when I think of what you’ll tell your brother.
[...] all men are assholes and… no, no wait, I think someone else can explain this better than me. Roosh V sat his sister down at the age of 16 and gave her this golden wisdom. It's a shame more girls aren't [...]
Sad. Your sister is lucky to have you. I didn’t have anyone to tell me these things. So I didn’t manage to protect myself, especially in childhood.
I’m happy I know it now … But I feel sorry for all the sluts I know who still believe their promiscuous lifestyle will have no consequences …
Wow, I didn’t know other girls were drowning in a shallow life or liquor and anynomous cocks. Why haven’t I been given this update? I wish I was drowning and liquor and anonymous cocks. Instead I’m a not entirely unattractive eighteen year old girl and I’m drowning in fantasy fiction and my own hands. Not like that’s bad or anything. FAPPING IS GOOD, BOYS AND GIRLS.
But I had the esx talk when I was 10 and I wasn’t told it the way you told your sister, and I never felt the need to whore myself out. Frankly, being a virgin doesn’t actually bother me overly much.
[...] From his Open Letter to the Parents of American Daughters: [...]
Thanks, man. It sounds foreveralone as fuck but my little sister is all I have in this world and I gotta look after her. She’s a high quality girl but a ditz all the same so yaknow.
The way you talk about your sister is creepy. Nobody talks about their sister like that.
Aw, and the guy who talks about sluts having STDs. Newsflash: guys who sleep around and especially those who sleep with sluts have STDs too. I know a girl who caught an STD from her biyfriend after they had sex for the first time and she was a virgin.
(Roosh: Hey Yulia, can you upload a better profile pic on your Facebook? I can’t really see your face.)
[...] to be like other girls her age, drowning in a shallow life of liquor and anonymous cocks. – Roosh VWhy does marriage exist? To avoid this problem. Why do social conservative values exist? To avoid [...]
[...] his enemy, Susan Walsh, apparently reads him regularly enough to find and publish advice he would give his sister as something she supported and [...]
[...] when we look at the advice men like Roissy and Roosh offer to women. Roosh’s practical advice to his own sister is an excellent example: Understand that before sex, you have all the power, but afterwards you [...]
What is up with this idea that a vagina is worn out when it’s taken some cock? My friend and life partner, not a gold star lesbian by about a hundred guys, has to have the smallest plastic speculum at the gynae, and still runs the risk of catapulting it into the wall opposite her. Thankfully, she was obsessed with condoms during her anonymous, omnivorous sex phase (she has always been a lesbian, and is utterly repulsed by jizz).
A greater risk to a woman’s pelvic floor is lack of exercise.
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SO MESSED UP. WOMEN ARE NOT OBJECTS TO BE CONQUERED. WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL, AND MEN CAN BE (and obviously you are), SLUTS.
YOUR POOR SISTER FOR TAKING YOUR BRAINWASH.
This is truly disgusting. Not all American women are like this, and even if they were, who cares? Their sexuality/virginity is not for you to place value upon. It is theirs. Have you ever considered that you might simply be an “easy bang” for them? Some of these women may have the same mindset that you do, with the genders reversed. This is just so misogynist and hypocritical it is almost beyond words.
[...] 4. Roosh provides advice to girls: [...]
[...] 1. Roosh advises women who are in their early 20′s: [...]
All humans start to degrade after 25???
I think you mean 35, old geezer
[...] Sensible advice, in theory. Sex forms relationships that would otherwise fail. I’ve slept with many girls who, if the sex was postponed much longer, the loss of momentum and novelty would have meant no sex. They just weren’t that interesting, or their attention span was too low to sustain our connection, without the help of a hot beef injection to restore excitement. If girls waited, they wouldn’t end up fornicating with men who’d leave them shortly after anyways. Better to secure at least, a man’s agreement to be her boyfriend before sex. With fewer sexual partners in their past, these women might be able to bond better with the men they do want to seriously date and marry. [...]