Polish Girls Vs. Ukrainian Girls

I’m ready to do a comparison of these two countries that mainly focus on the women. I’ve lived in Poland for almost a year and Ukraine for seven months, so I believe I’m qualified to attempt this analysis. In addition, I’ve had two trips that took me back and forth from the two countries, giving me clear side-by-side comparisons. Let’s begin…

Face

I was on the fence for the longest time about which country has more beautiful women. The reason is I became well-aware of a Ukrainian girl’s ability at beautification through makeup and other artificial enhancements. In spite of that, I’m ready to declare that Ukrainian girls, as a whole, are indeed more beautiful than Polish girls. If you take away a Ukrainian’s girls makeup and take away a Polish girl’s makeup, Ukrainian girls will come out on top due to softer facial curves that have better proportions (Polish women have a genetic strain that gives many of them a prominent and unattractive witch face). The most beautiful Polish girls look Ukrainian while the ugliest Ukrainian girls look Polish.

Advantage: Ukraine

Size

If you like thin, petite women, Ukrainian women have a clear edge. I estimate that around 30% of Polish women are at least chubby, whereas in Ukraine that number is under 15%. In Poland you also see many women with linebacker body frames.

When I first visited Poland, I noticed in the supermarkets that young Polish students stocked up on a lot of soda and chips. At the time I wondered how they could eat junk food and remain thin, but that type of eating takes time to reveal itself. Two years later, it’s very obvious to me that Polish women are getting bigger. Unfortunately, foreign men will not hesitate to go after a fat Polish girl, enabling this obesity, while in Ukraine foreign men are reluctant to chase fatties. It is ten times harder for a fat Ukrainian girl to get laid than a fat Polish girl.

Advantage: Ukraine

Shape

Polish women offer more curves in the form of larger breasts and plumper ass. Ukrainian women are like white Asian girls, and while you can find large butts, it can be challenging to do so. Polish women are built for ploughing and vigorous sex while Ukrainian women are built for knitting and walking in high heels. It’s interesting to me how great the shape differential is even though the countries share a large border.

Advantage: Poland

Personality

Polish women are sweet, patient, curious, and friendly. They are a joy to spend time with. On the flip side, a Ukrainian woman may take a long time to reveal her personality to you, and once she does, it may be sorely lacking, not necessarily because she’s hollow inside, but because her comfort level with you—a non Kiev Rus barbarian—is low and she is embarrassed to appear stupid while speaking English. I have dated Ukrainian girls whose personalities blew away the best I could find in Poland, but for most guys it will be easier to find a pleasant Polish girl than a pleasant Ukrainian girl.

Advantage: Poland

Game Ease

A Western man will on average find it easier to get laid in Poland, but exceptions are common. I remember my first night back in Poland after four months in Odessa when I saw a drunk Polish girl grinding on a guy and making out with him. Instinctively I thought, “What a slut!” It’s not because she really was a slut, but because I hadn’t seen that behavior at all in Odessa. In Ukraine, it’s rare for me to kiss a girl the same night I meet her, but in Poland you can do so with a girl who has a boyfriend. One-night stands or first-date bangs aren’t rare in Poland, but they are in Ukraine.

An important note to mention is that Ukraine excels for the older man, because the girls absolutely do not care if you are 35 and beyond. Men under 30 would do better in Poland while men over 30 should try Ukraine, though Polish girls dig older men too.

Advantage: Poland

Sex

Ukrainian girls are simply not good in bed, perhaps the worst I’ve encountered in my travels. They view sex more as something to be endured them a means of self-gratification. They are also pretty horrible at sucking dick. Polish women, on the other hand, while not as pornographic as American women, have a far healthier attitude towards sex that translates into competent performances inside the bedroom. Ukrainian women may take quite a bit of training to please you while Polish women are better right out the box.

Advantage: Poland

Standard Of Living

It’s not easy living in Ukraine. The people come across as rude. English is not common. Commercial products and amenities are at a basic level. Cab drivers go for the jugular when giving you fares since meters are nonexistent. Service is absolutely horrendous. Accomplishing even simple things like going to the dentist can be a major headache. Poland, however, is close to America when it comes to modern amenities, and is rapidly closing the gap. The cost of living is comparable in both countries, though Poland is somehow cheaper.

Advantage: Poland

Overall

From my above list, it would be logical for me to declare Poland the winner, but I simply can’t. The reason is that Ukraine has thinner girls who are more beautiful, the two most important factors for me. While I do value things like personality and sexual performance, it’s quite hard to go from Ukraine to Poland and accept the sharp drop-off in beauty. I know I should be happier overall in Poland, but being able to put attempts on 8s and 9s in Ukraine is quite invigorating. While foreign men may take a while until they get a Ukrainian 8+, just being able to try actually yields a nugget of masculine happiness that Poland simply can not provide.

An Italian man once told me that Ukraine is the major leagues while Poland is the minor leagues. I understand the reason for such a comparison because in Poland you need very basic game to get bangable girls, while in Ukraine you may need to completely upend your game system and learn many new skills (including Russian) to succeed with quality women. But one you crack this Ukrainian plateau, which will involve a lot of bad dates, you start to establish your skillset, and it then becomes easier for you to get hotter in Ukraine than Poland. If you give me a set timeline of four weeks, I will bang a higher quality average in Ukraine than Poland, but in Poland I will bang a higher quantity. Sadly, I have less energy for a quantity game and am moving towards mini-relationships.

I can not declare either one more superior than the other—it will simply depend on what you want. If you’re looking for fun and relatively easier sex with girls who speak great English, Poland comes out on top. If you want stoic but hotter girls who are always dressed up like they are about to walk on a model runway, Ukraine is a better choice. While Poland will always have a special place in my heart, it looks like that my destiny in pushing me towards Russian-speaking countries so that I can achieve the highest level of beauty that the female human species has to offer.

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  • bbbb

    Lies. Poland has way hotter girls. Ukraine is dangerous too. I was stabbed with a knife in ukraine. No problems in poland.

  • Eli

    Why haven’t you spent any time in Russia proper? Great culture in Moscow and Peter and numerous other smaller cities. Much better economically than Ukraine and the women are highly intelligent and travel more than most American women. Not to mention how attractive they are.

  • Daniel

    I agree on everything, though I don’t think polish girls’ tits are that big.
    As a 35+ yo man as I am, I totally agree also on the point that for a guy of this age is much better and potentially more satisfying trying his luck in Ukraine, for the same reasons you stated.
    But, for sure, Ukraine will cost you way more. (in Poland you might spend less than 10 euro in a night out, and get laid like a champion. In Ukraine something like that is not possible in any way)

  • Douglas Mackenzie

    dude, where are you going to spend less than 10 euros on a night out? have you ever been to Poland?

  • Ishmael

    Eli dear, cannot you see that the author of this article could not care less for what you call “culture,” museums and all them ballets! ;) He would be too busy running after the local women with the ruler and measuring their hip to waist ratio, as well as “the proportions of facial curves” (ditto) in order to find out where he gets the best value for precious little money. Which would not go down well in Moscow: a city renowned for not treating penny-pinchers too well… :P

  • Jordan

    I want a break down like this on Romania….

  • Web

    Mate, 3-5 eur per drink is the minimum in Poland, Czech and where ever in this region.

  • Roosh_V

    Have you ever been in Poland? There are shot bars everywhere with 1 euro drinks.

  • jiglio

    you can’t generalize how Ukranian women are in bed. How many women you should have slept with to make this conclusion?

  • Johannes

    I am from Praha, CZ. you are pretty allright what comes to us.

    Quality beer is about 1 euro (app. 25 – 30 czk, in clubs more and pilsner 12 cost usually around 40)
    shots like vodka, rum or tequilla are about 50 czk, drink like cuba libre or else are from 100 czk more

  • Romeo_is_real
  • Ronin

    I find it really sad that obesity epidemic is now spreading to Poland

  • Dj

    Ukraine easily wins in my book as an older guy over 40. Learning Russian is key.

  • dabiz

    Great report as usual roosh with info no one else is putting online in this detail.

  • kkk

    obesity epidemic is spreading to everywhere in estern europe not only to poland. in few years ukraine and russia will be next

  • manaboutglobe

    Fair analysis. I have discovered a little paradise in CZ which is on par with Poland. The quality is way below that of Russia and Ukraine but take away the language barriers, horrible lifestyle and high cost of living (Russia) and life on the whole is a much more pleasurable experience. Apartments for one in Poland and CZ are luxurious compared to the ex soviet shit holes you find in Ukraine for the same money.
    I fantasise about going back East all the time, you are right – whilst it is hard as balls the exhilaration from Russian stock makes up for it somehow. There is no middle ground but that is what makes Ukraine so awesome.

  • manaboutglobe

    That was a general reply… sorry not a response to Eli :)

  • desertman

    white asian girls? hm im glad you broughtf that up. cause im wondering how well do these slavic beauties age? and how do they look after having kids do they get fat or stay thin? are they still bangable in their 50s?

  • Daniel

    you have top clubs where you can enter for free, also in the weekend if you are on a web-page list. You can bring with you a small bottle of vodka inside your pocket in most of the polish clubs, they don’t control. And polish girls, usually, are not after money. This means they don’t expect you to buy them a drink.

  • Ternarydemon

    Genrally, they do not age well. Fragility, genetics and bad lifestyle makes them hit the wall strongly at 28-30. For long term beauty, nothing trumps the mediterranean races.

  • Roosh_V

    Agreed. A bit of melanin is very helpful to delaying aging.

    But the question is: who ages faster.. Polish women or Ukrainian? I think Polish do, but only by a bit.

  • anonymous

    Russia proper is extremely expensive. On the RVF, Roosh has mentioned the cost of living, and the major competition from some very wealthy Russian men (not just the oligarchs or the mafia, but the regular crooks/connected people) who put on major displays of wealth.

  • anonymous

    Between the Bang Ukraine book and the RVF and the rooshv site, Roosh has mentioned relationships with at least a half-dozen women and running game on at least another couple dozen, spread across all the major and mid-tier cities.

    While there will obviously be exceptions, that’s a pretty good base to make an analysis of the general traits of the girls there.

    Remember, he’s trying to offer a picture that will be usable to most men thinking of traveling to these two countries. Most of the men who follow Roosh’s patterns when they come to the Ukraine will — in general — likely share the same type of experience.

  • anonymous

    That’s a big claim. How about some comparison photos? (If not the actual girls you encountered, then some general photos from club photographers / Instagram / VK / etc)

  • anonymous

    Those are good prices.

    What bars, nightclubs, cafes, and stores do you recommend in Prague for hot girls?

  • anonymous

    Yes, instead of trying to make the most of his money for a fun time, he should work at a boring day job in an office, to try to get a Christmas bonus payment of $1,500 that he can use on his 1 week of vacation per year.

    That’s a good idea, right?

  • Jose

    Man that’s always been my aesthetic struggle- white and pale look so good young and fresh but not that great older while the darkies like myself look better as we age- it’s like how do you decide it’s so tough. I e most attracted to a young fresh innocent looking fair girl but respect a mature olive skinned lady among her peers. Choosing is so tough.

  • G Real

    What cities in CZ have friendly, down to Earth, approachable girls?

    Are there regions that have redheads (my personal favorite)?

    Is Prague like the Warsaw (Polish from Krakow told me Warsaw people are uptight and arrogant) where metro culture makes women more hardened and into the whole social approval game.

  • MysticPhilosopher

    LOL how do you have the time to spend with these actual girls when you are online all the time? You don’t want me to start comparing American men vs. European, believe me.

  • Eli

    Central Moscow can be extremely expensive but otherwise, it’s not the case. There is a lot of money in Moscow but also a lot more talent. Also, Peter is one of the nicest cities in the world. Moscow would have some of the best nightlife in the world and there are far more women than men. It’s still a small percentage of men that have a lot of money. The competition from Russian men isn’t oligarchs and mafia types. Those exist in Ukraine as well. However, there are more finance, lawyer types in Moscow that are very well paid, not to mention a vibrant startup scene. Just seems like a more dynamic place with more opportunities on all fronts.

  • Eli

    Also, because one has to get a visa and its a bit more expensive, there are far fewer sex tourists. In Ukraine, given the influx of westerners chasing women, almost all foreign guys are looked at as sex tourists. That can largely be avoided in Russia.

  • Mariana Calderón

    So, in the end, we go back to basics (as mentioned in your past articles): beauty beat pretty much everything else, no matter how much you elaborate about other advantages.

  • Bongo

    Polish girls are stone cold in bed.Czech girls are much more liberated in this matter.Also, Roosh hasn seen the real face of polish girls-they will milk you dry and I dont mean your cock.

  • Roosh_V

    I would not be insulted if American men were bashed. Self-confidence allows a man to not get angry at internet articles written by people he doesn’t know.

  • Brad Turner

    Hey bro if you are feeling less energy, you should take a natural testosterone booster or something to boost your growth hormone levels. Nothing wrong with getting an extra kick.

  • desertman

    well put it this way jose. yau want her at her most attractive so pale it is. cuz when women of all colors hit the wall are no longer bangable. get the best ride and make the most if it while u can….or get another young woman.
    but i always thought white women used that excuse so they dont have take care of themselves. they just accept it. cuz the asians can be really white(like irish white) and still be hot like my old acupuntrists or frank yangs mom.

  • desertman

    as for us darkies getting better with age,i say its always men when we lose that boyish look and actually start looking like men. problem with dark girls i notice(black arab indian latin) they get fat really quickly when they get close to 30 or have a kid(some bigger then their husbands.

  • euneaux

    Was in Poland quite a while as well as knew many Poles abroad…
    One peculiarity about the Polish women is the frequency of bad skin (acne and scarring) compared to women of other north and western Germanic tribes. Obviously not all Polish women suffer from this, but its prevalence is striking.

    Anybody else notice this? I’d rather a sweet lady a little on the chubby side if she at least had pure creamy / rosy complexion.

    “I can not declare either one more superior than the other—it will simply depend on what you want.”

    A wise statement. In love and breeding it’s much a matter of taste. Based on the observations here and my own priorities, Poland would be a slam dunk for me.

    What do you gentlemen who have spent longer periods there think of life during the different seasons of the year in various areas of Poland? I spent a number of years in a smaller town in the West of Poland, quite a bit west of Poznan and close to Germany. I found the winter quite unpleasant… perhaps at best tolerable. I’m not really a fan of big cities and I can’t imagine life in one of them during the winter. I think I’ll wait for the Spring or summer before planning my next move. Some months to find my way and my own social circle would help adjust for the cold dark misery of Winter.

    Something about this dispatch reminds me of dog or livestock breeding.

    When is Mr. Roosh going to finally breed himself? It would be sad if all this effort was in vain and his clever mind and unique gifts were all working toward an evolutionary dead end. At least he could leave a legacy of some cute and fuzzy little bastards if he hasn’t already.

  • fuckof

    shame you haven’t seen ukrainian face under 3 lays of make up…..

  • desertman

    well do they drink more and eat fast food more often cause thatll explain why british women are busted up. if they adopt an asian deit i think theyll get the same results. after all some asians are on the same fitzpatrik skin scale as whites

  • desertman

    dam fast food restaurants must be run by feminists to keep men in their country instead of jumpin ship to the hot nations.the happy meal will be a sticker that says big is beatiful as its fat acceptance commercials play all over tv.

  • oneangrygirl

    Well done, Roosh. You described polish girls as the ugliest in the world. Hope you won’t get laid here anymore.

  • witte de wit

    Jesus,this monkey faced sand nigger is still browsing eastern europe? Where are all the white nationalists when we really need them…
    The pervert is still there and still advertising to other pervs.Bloody hell,I have no words.Europe is falling.

  • poiuyt

    Stop dreaming,pervert.Only for money.

  • answer

    Because the moron needs visa.And since he has no job,income or money-he can not get one.
    Therefore the hobo travels between visa free countries,spending 6 months in each of them and pretending that he knows something.Meanwhile begging his parents to send him more cash.

    Get real, idiots.

  • poiuyt

    Yet you are deleting the comments you don’t like like a crazy feminist.And cry yourself to sleep,because all the PUA internet laughs at you.We all remember the hysterics Roosh had when Aarons sleazy wrote quite good article about him.

    And yes its transparent from your posts that you hardly get laid.Celebrating a sex with 20 years old ukrainian 6 like it was the biggest event of your life.220 posts about her lol.
    Reminds me of Michael Scott from the Office and his affair with Jan.hahaha

    Looser.

  • Guest

    Roosh, I love your work immensely, and I do agree that Ukrainian women are absolutely amazing. They’re incredibly feminine and immensely well-educated. I personally have take the time to develop some familiarisation with Russian and I’ve noticed that it helps quite a bit in the way of getting Ukrainian women to open up, and they’re an absolute joy to spend time with in almost any form.

    On the subject of Polish vs. Ukrainian women, I will say this, during my first week in Ukraine (Odessa), I bedded two beautiful, intelligent, socially-savvy women (two days apart from each other, no less), and over the course of my next two months in Ukraine (mostly in Krym and Donetsk). I agree with you on the topic of one-night stands and first-date bangs: in my observations, they just don’t happen in Ukraine, but I find the quality of women to be worth waiting until the 2nd or 3rd date.

    Compared with Polish women, I seriously have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. I cannot lay a Polish girl to save my life. I was in Poland for an aggregated total of about 11 months; I kissed two women and never had sex with anyone. Ukraine definitely wins for me.

  • : fvaetha: el

    Roosh, I love your work immensely, and I do agree that Ukrainian women are absolutely amazing. They’re incredibly feminine and immensely well-educated. I personally have take the time to develop some familiarisation with Russian and I’ve noticed that it helps quite a bit in the way of getting Ukrainian women to open up, and they’re an absolute joy to spend time with in almost any form.

    On the subject of Polish vs. Ukrainian women, I will say this, during my first week in Ukraine (Odessa), I bedded two beautiful, intelligent, socially-savvy women (two days apart from each other, no less), and over the course of my next two months in Ukraine (mostly in Krym and Donetsk), I proceeded to bed further gorgeous, interesting women. I agree with you on the topic of one-night stands and first-date bangs: in my observations, they just don’t happen in Ukraine, but I find the quality of women to be worth waiting until the 2nd or 3rd date.

    Compared with Polish women, I seriously have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. I cannot lay a Polish girl to save my life. I was in Poland for an aggregated total of about 11 months; I kissed two women and never had sex with anyone. Ukraine definitely wins for me. No contest.

  • Anonymous

    Ukraine’s GDP per capita is $7,500. The comparable figure for Poland is $21,000. It’s no great accomplishment for an American man to bed women in a much poorer country

  • Gabriel

    How could anyone prefer pencil thin over volumptous? And rude and unenthusiastic lover over easy going and enthusiastic lover?
    I think a lot of the excessive superficiality of thinking a rude pencil in heels and a designer dress is due to American media brainwashing creating a superficial delusion of vanity in the viewers mind. I don’t want a spokesmodel I want a stacked, kind girl I can chill out with and deeply connect with.

  • Jose’

    How does the Asian diet work?
    I’d like to hear more- ill have my albino eating rice ASAP. Do explain.

    Yeah Asian ladies do age very very well and come across (at least initially which isn’t saying it for women) as hyper feminine which is a huge turn on for me. I just like a little 21 y/o fresh pale
    White girl full of hopes and dreams- its a beautiful thing. After 25 they all are stuck in mid management/college bureaucracy/Western corporatism gulag which is a tremendously oppressive thin for all humans and one thing I respect about Roosh is he beat that non sense.

  • Ishmael

    Exactly, my Anonymous friend! Being able to combine high earnings (it seems, moonlighting as a PUA-advice giver does not pay too well at the end of the day) and fun is a privilege reserved for only the very best of us! :/ Back to the miserly existence for everyone else, counting how far a euro, a hrivna or a rouble would get you. I guess I am coming dangerously close to the genuine reason to why dear Roosh seems to loathe USA, Toronto and similar places so much… ;) You cannot masquerade as a proud Casanova somewhere where you as a guy are supposed to have a real career and real earnings in order to be reckoned with…
    I only wonder what Roosh’s current, presumably “non-boring” job is (although he endorses “masculinity,” somehow it is hard to envisage him as a SAS special unit commander, a polar explorer-scientist or a renowned athlete). I only sincerely hope it is not also an office (only a Polish or Brazilian one), complete with bonus payments and similar dribble (only everything being Polish or Brazilian and also much much much much cheaper ’cause we luuurve a pukka bargain)! Anyway, he’ll always be welcome on my little whaling boat. Given his passion for proving his “masculinity” to the world and his hatred of portly mammals, I believe he would make incredible ripples with that profession. ^_^

  • Ishmael

    Gabriel (my fellow -el!), it seems that you missed the entire point of the article. The author (Roosh) rather clearly sets it out that the point of his experiences is to show, how a rather miserly and haggardly specimen can aspire to pass for a cool international playboy with oodles of cash, etc. And what distinguishes a posh playboy from everyone else? Why, having the correct “status” accessories, of course, and women in Rooshiverse are obviously one. He must have heard it somewhere that it is all the rage to have the “heroin chic” look like Kate Moss (oh dear, about ten years too late), so he would preach to us that if we want to be playboys, skinny women is where it’s at. If he heard it was voluptuous women, tattooed women, tanned women, pale women or women without arms or legs who symbolised prestige and wealth, he would preach to us to seek those out and scorn all the rest. And in the meantime, some little Facebook founder or dotcom millionaire would pick a girl whom he fancies with his own taste, and then amusedly watch the lemmings follow and seek out the carbon copies of his girlfriend. ‘Cause that’s what is cool, right? ;)

  • PaulY

    Great comparison but I think I the only area I would quibble with is that age does not matter in UA, as things are changing there too. I’m in my mid 40′s and I’m not getting 8′s & 9′s 21 year old hotties unless I pay for it. It seems to bang a 7 , Poland or CZ requires less work and has more advantages.

  • desertman

    from what ive seen. Their diet doesnt involve a ton of alcohol,fried,creamy or sugary foods. They dont like to eat anything “strong”. They eat little meat and dairy but lotta rice and veggies.

    Totally agree, but when life hits them hard they become bitter quickly. yet they wonder why men prefer younger women(still pleasent).

    I think most guys prefer women lighter then them(apparently its biological ingrained in us and its preferred in every culture)hence called the fairer sex from europe and latin america to arabia india and east asia.
    When I was a teen I liked darker girls probably cause of alot of porn use and wanted more novelty. But if I lay off the porn the girls I become more attracted to are the light skinned girls…instant sack drainer. Guess itll explain why white latin and asian girls are more popular not from porn but dating as well. Dont believe me most of the winners of the 4 major pageants are form there and the inidan winners basically can pass for southern European.
    my guess the guys like dark girls just have a fetish or they fell for the black is beautiful campaign du

  • desertman

    *during the feminst movement in the 60s

  • John Smith

    Dude (assuming you are in fact, a dude), the correct spelling is L-O-S-E-R ….Now, what’s that about glass houses and stones??

  • The Leroy Washington Experienc

    I agree. When you really look at it things like food, shelter, heat, survival far surpass all the online psycho babel and howling. Opinion and education are definitely farther up on Maslow’s hierarchy, and we all know 9/10 of the keyboard jockeys dont have the brass to get it on in public but guys whov’e trained boxing, mma, etc. like us do. Man when you think about how poor most of the World lives someones bitching and moaning about philosophy is really irrelevant. Were very fortunate in the West.

  • Jose’

    Great post.

    Porn deludes us. I wish I had a time machine and wouldn’t have let that stuff wreck my mind and corrupt my soul. I was such a horn dog back then and still am. I think the Illuminati central bankster elite designed porn to reduce population because if every nut I busted to porn had been up some cute ginger i’d probably have 14 kids by now.

    Iv’e always had a redhead fetish but a blonde or brunette with big tits is always so fine. I think Christina Hendricks is about my ideal-stacked redheads are my thing. Iv’e always been ravenously obsessed with gingers even thin flat chested ones. I’m the epitome of the ginger fetish.

  • Jose’

    And Lindsay Lohan in “Mean Girls” she was so gorgeous in that movie-thats like my ideal look for a college aged girl. Love that movie never get tired of her in that film.

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  • anonymous

    Do you mean that the woman are attracted to him for his money? Or that he is paying for the women?

  • anonymous

    Why would he ‘beg’ for money, since he makes significant income off web ads and Bang book sales, for someone who has no full-time job?

    I smell a feminist pissed off at 5 Reasons to date a bulimic or 24 Slut Signs

  • anonymous

    Ummm, considering that Roosh does not flaunt money and does not pretend to be rich, it really does not make a difference which country in the region he is running game in.

    If anything, because Ukraine has a lower GDP per capita, the women there are much more focused on finding a rich guy with a Mercedes. Roosh does not look rich and he does not promise money, so the girls that are attracted to him get hooked on his game.

  • anonymous

    “Deleting comments”?

    The paranoid people who complain about comments being deleted are the people who haven’t learned to hit ‘refresh’ on their browser.

    Learn to use your computer, you dipshit conspiracy theorist.

  • anonymous

    Boo-hoo. Get your little feewings hurt, slut?

    If you’d bothered reading anything else Roosh has said about Poland, he likes the girls there a lot and thinks they are great.

    Maybe not as pretty as the Ukrainian, but still a lot better than Sweden/Denmark and other countries.

  • anonymous

    You seem to have gotten lost from Stormfront, you WN loser. Be a good stooge and find your way back there.

  • Passenger

    Speaking of diet, aging and looks:
    Correct, asian diet is by far the best in the world. Why?
    Fish and veggies supply minerals and vitamins (plenty!) , rice supplies carbs for quick, efficient energy. No wheat, milk, sugar, chocolate. Esp. japanese diet is very calming to the mind…. thats why its rare to see jap. woman screaming, yelling,etc.

  • Passenger

    I live for 14 years in Warsaw and obviously gained some insights about the soul (yeah..)of a polish woman… When it comes to the bodies: esp. younger generation (26yrs max) often have VERY good looks. Of course it differs widely, there are many fatties, many plain janes, but also many chicks are simply awesome in looks department. Now, if you get to know them better, the deeper you dig, the darker the picture! Its best to keep them at a long distance, just for casual bang, drink, whatever. Beacuse once she will want you to be more of a boyfriend, or worse, you’d like her to be your regular GF, guess what? Well, remember Poland is like 5x poorer than Western world. Two things may happen:

    1. either you’ll see that her job and frequent shopping mall bonanza are her favorite sport, or
    2. she will expect you to pay for this and this and a little that, and some of this too. Sooner or later, for everything.
    I’ve made a huge mistake of involving in 3 LTRs. This time could be MUCH, MUCH! better spent with more chicks on rotation, more experiences, more travel, more fun, more adventures.

    The sex with polish girls can be summarized this way:
    As many of you on RVF already said about american girls- the best sex is with slut type of girls or the crazy bitchez/hipsters.
    Girls who do not enjoy parties and clubs that much, ofter from catholic or very poor families, tend to be boring, average, often without much sex experience.

    What gives you the best out of Polish girls is to always hook up with the chicks from higher levels of social pyramid. Which in Poland means that just both of their parents work at what is perceived in the west as avg jobs and make a family without psychological or financial drama! Maybe its just me, but when a girls family is normal or decent , she also happens to be nice&fun. Otherwise, its a waste of time and nerves.

    Last tip: what qualities polish chicks look for? Original, masculine, smiling guy with a spanish-turkish levels of melanin.

  • Anonymous

    Correction: Ukraine is 5 x poorer than the Western world, not Poland. Take France as a typical Western country. Its GDP per capita is $ 36,000, $36,000 – $21,000 (Poland) = $ 15,000. Hence, on the average, France is about 42% richer than Poland. That’s only the average. There are hundreds of thousands of rich individuals in Poland who are richer than a typical American, and who have daughters who are used to a very affluent lifestyle and won’t be easily impressed by an average Westerner. Poland is simply becoming too affluent for Roosh

  • Anonymous

    Still, success depends to a large extent on impressing the local girls with affluence, yours or that of your country of origin. That’s why American PUAs are less successful in the U.K. or the Scandinavian countries. Ukraine is in Eastern Europe. Poland is in Central Europe, part of the European Union and in the Schengen zone. Polish girls can hop into a car, and drive to Berlin (Polish border runs through the suburbs of Berlin) or Paris, alone or with their boyfriends if they feel like it. They can go skiing in the Italian Alps in winter. They can study anywhere in Europe under the Erasmus program. They are often multilingual, and if you think they
    will be easily impressed by some American dude visiting for a few days, you have a lot to learn. The weakness of the dollar doesn’t help either

  • Eli

    Contrary to this view, there are office jobs that pay bonuses in the $100k-$500k+ annually. Not all office jobs are the same. While I fully respect someone for leaving a dead-end, low comp position to seek greener pastures, assuming all office jobs fall into this category shows extreme ignorance.

  • Mike

    Dude it’s true.

    I just went to Punta Cana, Dominican republic on vacation. The hottest girls were always russian. Also I had the least amount of success with them.

    Peruvian girls and dominican girls were easier for me. Probably because my spanish is good. I don’t know ANY russian.

    Good for you man, good post. Go forth and learn that russian.

    Breviet!

  • anonymous

    Sure, top bankers in NYC/London/continental Europe do receive bonuses that are nearly 400% of their large annual salaries.

    But for the average man in the average American business, holiday bonuses averaged $863 per employee as of a few years ago. (Bloomberg 2008)

    Roosh clearly isn’t going to work in private equity or at an investment house or at a place with crazy performance bonus for the Alec Baldwin-type salesman. Neither are many of the readers here. So it’s much more realistic to use an average number when making broad statements.

    Sources:
    Bloomberg, EU’s Highest-Paid Bankers in U.K. as Bonus Awards Exceed Cap, 29 Nov 2013;

    USA Today, Pay raises in 2014 expected to average 3%, 18 Sept 2013;

    Bloomberg, Hewitt Survey Finds Companies Providing Holiday Bonuses, 11 Dec 2008

  • Anonymous

    It’s important to understand where the division in Europe came from: Poland (and the Czech Republic, Slovakia, etc) are in Central Europe, Ukraine (and Russia, Belarus, etc) are in Eastern Europe. Western and Central Europe got their culture from the western Mediterranean (I.e., Roman Empire, Italy, France, Catholicism and Protestantism) with its tendency toward democracy and the rule of law. Eastern Europe got its culture from the eastern Mediterranean (i.e., Byzantine Empire and Orthodox Christianity) with its tendency toward strong-man rule (such as Putin in Russia or Yanukovich in Ukraine) and lack of democratic traditions. However, many Ukrainians would like to see a rapprochement with the E.U. and its values. Witness the massive demonstrations taking place in Kiev right now against Yanukovich and his rejection of a free-trade zone with the E.U.

  • : fvaetha: el

    Mate, was that seriously necessary?

  • Anonymous

    What people fail to understand is that Poland in many ways is like France – unlike in the U.S., Polish girls grow up in large multigenerational extended families so by the time they graduate from high school and later get their university diplomas, they are embedded in vast social networks and typically meet their boyfriends or husbands through those networks /no game is needed/ which, by the way, are difficult to penetrate by foreigners. In Warsaw the social life of the upper crust typically centers in the wealthy western and southern suburbs with its million or multimillion dollar homes. Those suburbs are rarely seen by foreigners, but that’s where the best looking upper-middle class and upper class girls are. They rarely visit Warsaw’s Centrum for the same reason that the affluent Los Angeles residents rarely visit downtown LA – they live and socialize on the Westside in places like Santa Monica, etc.

  • Lacedric Towerwood

    The only pervert is you for hating on a heterosexual mans natural passion for attractive feminine women with your culturally programmed anti human crap thinking.

  • Roosh Pimps Out Aaron Sleazy

    Aaron Sleazy is an idiotic half ass Brit with a circus clown quality site. He’s just jealous because he can’t sell any books or other goods so he uses propaganda to compensate for his lack. Like I posted on his site- show us some pics of all your exploits chump.

  • anonymous

    He’s a “white nationalist” who got his feelings hurt that ‘his white women’ would be lusting after the dick of a random American with Mideast heritage.

  • Harkness

    I’m for Poland, but I’m glad Roosh is honest about what factors matter more to him. I tend to value a pleasant demeanor and large breasts over size (to an extent), but I can see that as my game improves so do my standards and I’m actually finding myself looking for a challenge. Maybe that’s a side effect of the Red Pill and Game. Once you start achieving, you want more limits to push and break.

    Major points to Roosh for separating size and shape, people never seem to get that these are two different things which matter to a lot of guys.

  • Harkness

    They’ve done studies that show that Asians age the slowest, Blacks the near-slowest, and whites the fastest.
    I work with a girl from Malaysia in her early thirties who could pass for a 17 year old, if not younger.

  • asshole

    I thought WN didn’t consider Slavs to be white. This is also the reason i find it hilarious that in many EE countries and Russia you have these WN groups, not knowing Hitler used to hate their guts.

  • asshole

    Haven’t got much experience with Ukranian women, but you’re absolutely right on the Polish female face. Let me further explain:

    short wide face (problably Mongolian ancestery?)

    small space between eyes

    small eyes

    small lips

    small mouth

    large nose pointing down

    high cheekbones

    strong jawline

    pointy chin

    Polish women are the quintessential butterfaces. Great bodies not so great faces. To understand what i’m talking about look up “mariusz pudzianowski” for a prototype.

  • anonymous

    Everyone has their own taste in women.

    Roosh has slept with “pencil thin” women and voluptuous women. He just prefers the women who are more in-shape, but have large asses.

    He has his preference, and you have yours.

    Are you going to fault him for his choice?

  • anonymous

    Huh?

    Why would you have us look up a man — not to mention a MMA fighter?

  • anonymous

    Nobody ever accused these race nationalists of being intelligent!

  • Rocha

    The people that are protesting in Kiev do not have a clue of what would happen to Ukraine if these agreements went ahead. Half of the eastern population (industrialyzed Ukraine) would be unemployed. Ukraine does not need to suffer more.
    Speaking of democracy and rule of the law, the numbers are that Ukraine is a much safer country than the E.U. zone, and this is where liberty starts, when you feel safe in some place.
    Economically speaking, just take a look on what is happening on countries like Spain, Greece, Portugal, Ireland. Ukraine needs that??

  • LiberalInternutz

    I cant imagine Ukraine being “worse off’ by joining the “west”… surely being forever indebted to Russian energy giants whom cutt off half of the cities power grid over past due minicipal bills is a good future.

  • Torayasu

    Well, I am from Poland and while I never been to Ukraine I can support the point about beauty. It is common knowledge in Poland, that the farther you move to the east, the more beautiful girls get. I attribute this phenomena to close proximity of our western border to Germany.

  • MysticPhilosopher

    The reason you are so gaga over Eastern European girls is because they fall for the pedestalization that western men give them, western European and American women no matter how ugly, useless or boring are entitled to the pedestalization from all around good guys thus they feel free to use them – slut until 30 then marriage. This is not the case in Eastern Europe. Because due to so many wars and so little males in comparison to females, the men are pedestalized and each woman has to outrank the other one to get that guy. So when a westerner with money, even average looks comes to visit her and offers her the validation and the pedestalization she never experienced of course she will fall for you. But of course each bride has its price, even the Eastern European men know this and do expect their women to be the traditional virgin type brides that rock in bed and are far more youthful and beautiful than most western women.

    Also, my guess is that most women you sleep with are western type women, because only they would get the ultimate validation through sleeping with someone ‘semi-famous’, without the exchange of money, gifts, attention and care. Energetically speaking you are in a tough bind, assuming you did sleep around with as much as girls as you say you did. I don’t envy you. And I do not see you ever having a good worthwhile loving relationship with any woman, unless shes some American/British hooked nosed chubby used up girl in her 30s. You lack the same manly qualities that you espouse at RoK, seriously how are you a ‘King’ you do not even treat yourself as one?

    Now resume your weak pandering to clueless western men in return for money you receive.

  • MysticPhilosopher

    The reason you are so gaga over Eastern European girls is because they fall for the pedestalization that western men give them, western European and American women no matter how ugly, useless or boring are entitled to the pedestalization from all around good guys thus they feel free to use them – slut until 30 then marriage. This is not the case in Eastern Europe. Because due to so many wars and so little males in comparison to females, the men are pedestalized and each woman has to outrank the other one to get that guy. So when a westerner with money, even average looks comes to visit her and offers her the validation and the pedestalization she never experienced of course she will fall for you. But of course each bride has its price, even the Eastern European men know this and do expect their women to be the traditional virgin type brides that rock in bed and are far more youthful and beautiful than most western women.

    Also, my guess is that most women you sleep with are western type women, because only they would get the ultimate validation through sleeping with someone ‘semi-famous’, without the exchange of money, gifts, attention and care. Energetically speaking you are in a tough bind, assuming you did sleep around with as much as girls as you say you did. I don’t envy you. And I do not see you ever having a good worthwhile loving relationship with any woman, unless shes some American/British hooked nosed chubby used up girl in her 30s. You lack the same manly qualities that you espouse at RoK, seriously how are you a ‘King’ you do not even treat yourself as one?

    Now resume your weak pandering to clueless western men in return for money you receive.

  • John

    Lol. Most people download Bang books off of torrent sites. What web ads? Do you think many companies will advertise on a non-mainstream site thats blacklisted by the Southern Poverty Law Center?? Get real. The guy gets most of his cash from his folks and a few pennies from his online work. Sooner or later he’ll need a real job.

  • Pedro Pan

    Right on. I don’t know where this myth of the easy Polish lay came from. Certainly if you have Western style game with negs and DHVs…then you might do OK in Poland. But if you try to be regular person, Ukraine will be better if you just show confidence and manliness.

  • EU guy

    Really? In linear terms (and not in terms of how much Mercedes, corrupt people appointed by Brussels can buy with LOANS from German banks….), Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal were financially stable until the 1980s and totally unstable since their entry. Check where is Croatia – it enterred in the EU, now it is horribly indebted. Only who did somethign was Poland but do you think Poland’s economy improved due to entry in the EU? Hell no, it improved by hidden sums invested by the US that plans the aggressive military expansion there pointing against Russia (the equivalent of Russia installing nuclear warheads in Mexico) and

    As for Russia’s ”cut-off” gas that had nothing to do with Russians but everything to do with the then ”orange revolution” Ukrainian US-puppet government that refused to pay for the gas Russia supplied to Ukraine for really ridiculously cheap prices (the 1/5th of market price!) and when Russians reduced the supply as per their contractual clauses (Russians DID NOT cut-off), the orange-men in Ukraine simply cut-off the pipelines, particularly those that lead to the EU, so as to push the EU to aid them in their demands. Totally irresponsible, totally criminal. Russians are not the ones to blame in that.

    You can be US-centric / Anglosaxonocentric, that is OK by me, but you do have to admit that Russias are not the ones who are in fault in these cases. You know the red-pill / blue-pill is primarily a metaphor for the degree of realisation in which world we live.

  • EU guy

    Actually the democratic deficit was traditionally in Western Europe with Catholicism and Protestantism and not in Eastern Europe with the Orthodox Church. Compare the Catholic tradition the Papal supremacy (the main difference to Orthodox and the reason for the Schism of the earlier One Orthodox-Catholic Christian Church) and the Papal infallibility, compare the fanatical following of Protestants of every ridiculous figure of theirs to the extensive decentralisation and democratisation of the Orthodox Church which is run by Councils and in which all episcopes and patriarchs are of equal importance (the Patriarch of Constantinople used to be first among equal but had no more votes than the Patriarch of Moscow, of Syria or of Ethiopia or something – no single person, or even a few, could ever take decisions). And when Patriarchs or Episcopes did nasty things, the Orthodox people were not sheep but rejected on the spot whatever they did not like – much unlike the Catholic and Protestant traditions were people were lead by strong figures.

    Compare also the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire where even the last soldier from a lowly class could rise up to the position of becoming an Emperor to the Western European paradigm of kings-by-birth that continues up to our days? What democratic tradition in Western Europe? Are we kidding? The first democratic nation had been Switzerland and that is because a Greek guy, Ioannis Kapodistrias, developed their system – the guy who was the first governor of Greece and who was murdered by political opponents promoted by British and French who operated in little Greece as colonial powers. The only orthodox country with the ”Paternalistic” prototype is Russia but this is understandable in a country that has twice the surface of US. In all other, and particularly in the archetype of orthodox countries, Greece, the democratic tedency is deep imbedded in the society (no matter if the Greek state, interferred by European great powers never thrived).

    I do respect the fact that in US you are too far away and you come from a very differential educational background (too anglocentric) to be in position to know all that. Yet, I do have a faith in American openmindness – when you pass the right information to Americans they tend to be more appreciative than Europeans (eastern or western, northern or southern) who tend to stick to old belief systems more.

  • EU guy

    As an guy from the continent, I can tell you 2-3 things mostly verifying what Roosh says. In terms of beauty, Ukrainian girls are best (some of the best you find in Europe and world), Polish are very nice but do not stand out as much as Ukrainians. Of course, in practice, this will do little difference for a man, e.g. coming from the US spending some time in each of the countries, and considering playing some game with the local women. In terms of cultural allegiances – which can be an important (though not overruling) factor, Polish are catholic and pro-western and thus Polish women statistically will be more comfortable with a US / Western European guy than Ukrainians. However, in Poland do not place much hope in the paradime ”western man with money, eastern woman with no money”. With an improved polish economy, your money have less of a value to them, but still the westerner retains some of its general allure. On the other hand, most Ukrainians (apart those catholics in the west part of the country which afterall are often of Polish ancestry and should be counted as such), while will not be instantly attracted to a westerner culture-wise, they will still consider the fact that he has money when living in a financially rotten country like Ukraine. It is not that your money-allure will attract the best of the best (as Roosh says, these flock around mafia guys and corrupted businessmen/civil servants) but still you will get much more (much much more) value than you will get in your home country – and this simply because there are so many beautiful women that the antagonism would be anyway high even if the country was much richer.

    Remember : the golden days of Eastern European Paradise for the Man were back in the 90s – back then you did not need game (in fact game would lead you to nowhere, the women would pass you for an E.T. or something…). Now no matter your western allure you always need to try and play game. But even so be it for the better. Men MUST play the game.

  • EU guy

    If he wanted to pay a nice woman to be with him, there are plenty of prostitutes in the US (representing all the races of the world). Adding only the price of 1 fuck, plus the airline tickets, the hotel tickets and all that, no matter if he would book his travel at a bargain, he would still be able with all that money to pay up a top-end model-prostistute to be his esort/prostitute for a week or so.

    Why would he need to go to the other side of the world to do so? Men change place in hope to find something ”better than this”. It is all about adventure seeking. Yes money will be in the way when you go to a country with worse economy. But ”money” (any kind of ”money”) is always inbetween human relations and even so more between male-female relations and this even in ”notion terms”, i.e. even when the woman does not directly expect you to provide her anything. Even us men if given the choice would like to be in the company of richer women than poorer ones even if we do not expect hand-outs from the rich. Availability of money creates anothr mind-set and that creates allure. It works for both men and women. I have seen men flocking around type-6 girls who happen to be quite rich, thus well dressed, well presented, bypassing girls that are type-7.

  • peter pan

    I’ve lived, worked and travelled in both countries for over 10 years. Much of what you say is accurate. Though you fail to mention their shockingly and often times incomprehensibly bad taste in men. I’d give disadvantage Poland there, since Ukrainian girls have more limited choice and the fact that money is often a factor in their selection criteria.

  • : fvaetha: el

    It seems that way. Almost all of my interactions have been day game. I like being chatty and I talk to people (men and women) wherever I find them if they look like they’re not really in a rush to be anywhere. I usually ask a woman about some clothes or earrings she has (which is not difficult at all, as the Russophone women tend to be extremely stylish and fashionable). I’d “like to know where they got those cool clothes/earrings/jewelry” because I’m “looking for gifts to send back to my best friend back home for his wife; they’re anniversary is coming up.” From there, I just talk to these women and share conversation with them (shifting between intellectual, joking-playful, sensual, etc) like they’re living, breathing, thinking, feeling human beings.

    I touch early and touch often, and during the times that I look at them, I think in my head that I can make her feel incredible (and that belief translates into the look in my eyes when I’m looking at her), and I hand-hold pretty much as soon as I can tell that she’s totally okay with me touching her. That tends to get me quite far in Ukraine (12 women in two months), and you already know how that’s worked out for me in Poland (it hasn’t).

    Logistics is absolutely key. I would say that the vast majority of Ukrainian women (especially younger, 18 – 21 range) either live with their parents, or live in a huge one-room apartment that they split the rent with between perhaps 3 – 6 friends, so if you want to bed Ukrainian women, you need (NEED) your own place to bring them back to; this is absolutely, imperatively vital.

    So anyway, so far as the sexual prospects with women, between Poland and Ukraine, I don’t even need to blink a thought about which country I do well with the women in; I believe my dictionary calls that choice a “no-brainer,” and my learning Russian seems to keep improving my odds

  • refocus

    If you are an American you better be careful in Poland.

  • doug sands

    Hi great, great article… I stay with my American women and dip into South Africa from time to time,…. Now there is somewhere you should set your sights on…. Cape Town is summer….say no more

  • tarke

    who cares about your opinion anyway. Roosh you are soooooooooooooo UGLY. the girls who decide to have sex with you must be really drunk

  • ROGERSKURYWSYN

    PIERDOL SIE OBSRANY CWELU

  • katty

    poles from eastern part of pre- war poland were moved to western part of today’s poland, so they are closer to east not west and germans you dumbf*ck

  • katty

    from the description it seems like roosh were banging only ugly or ‘between average and ugly’ polish girls, mostly women have slavic faces-delicate features and high cheekbones, and have that ‘pear’shaped body-big ass, small tits.
    and C cup is not big.

  • SJ

    Great post and once reason why I am learning Russian language before a trip to Kiev. The amount of 8s and 9s with charm are spectacular! Many speak English but knowing the Cyrillic alphabet and basic Russian scores major points with them. I read tons of classic Russian literature in school so it would be fun to see the famous historical sites with a drop dead gorgeous Ukraine lady on my arm.

  • ddd

    Polish women age waaay better than Ukrainians. perhaps because they are richer and take better care of their looks after marriage. in Ukraine an aveage 40 years old woman looks 50;

  • No Idea

    They are lightyears more intelligent than self destructive imbeciles who celebrate their annihilation because the Jews say it’s the correct thing to do.

  • No Idea

    “Aaron Sleazy”

    Ya blew it

  • Michael Garl

    Yeah bunch of bullshit. This article is only good if you are looking for quick bang and get Ukrainian/Polish slut with no self-worth or respect or just prostitute. Seems like most of Western men just don’t have enough creative romantic mindset to woo a top 9-10 who isn’t into selling her body. “Players” like Roosh are being played like hamsters in the running wheel lol.

  • Lily

    Many(like me) have pedomorphic(spelling?) faces…Childlike looking with chubby cheeks and large eyes….not exactly butterface…Men LOVE it;).

  • art

    So you think after the Hitler and that is your all knowledge about Europe and Indo-Europeans (Slavic, German, Celtic and ancient Greek and Italy peoples, who still have a lot of common grammar, words, beliefs, old customs) – the mixture of them are people in Poland and Czech Republic (you should read something more than tweets), in Ukraine they are more the mixture of Polish, Russian, Old- Russian and Romanian, and Russian are the mixture of Slavic, Vikings and a little bit of Tatars, and I must say, the Slavic component makes all of them very special and crazy fantastic). And Hitler was just an insane dog from the stinky alcoholic family and a small, dirty dot on the great history of the continent. .

  • tommy gun

    women in russia are as bad as in ukraine ! materialistic ignorant and egocentric cunts ! i ve dated ukrainian russian and polish girls ! i have to say polish girls are silly to the point of being stupid !ukranian girls seem just as silly as polish girls but more materialistic like the russian girls ! i think midwestern educated suburban american girls are the perfect balance of brains and beauty !