I found a post that commented on my latest video. It’s titled Ruining Roosh, which I fully expected it to be a hate-fest. Let’s take a look. (If you haven’t seen the video yet then you might want to watch it first.)
The first thing I thought was, “Wow, his hair is even WORSE than it looks in stills!”
The second thing was: even if I were an aspiring PUA, I’m not convinced this guy would have much useful to teach me. Sure, the techniques he recommends sound plausible and may, in fact, work for someone like himself. But what the videos, taken in neither a sexual nor even social context, indicate to me is that he is already building on a base of raw charisma that would be extraordinarily difficult to teach or fake. It’s hard to articulate the source of the charisma. The tenor of his voice, at a minimum. The structure of his face. Maybe body language is involved, in that he didn’t do anything obviously off-putting. The point is, the attraction for women is obvious. I can totally believe his tales of conquest; what I don’t believe is his claim that the psychological manipulation he employs would be met with the same success when used by people without his natural advantages.
First, I appreciate the flattering comments, especially since many haters have arrived at opposite conclusion. I wanted to address the comment that I have “natural advantages.”
You see my appearance in the video. I look like Teen Wolf spawn and except for my height everything the modern 20-something American woman finds attractive in a man is a quality I don’t possess. Girls make fun of my hair almost every night I go out, but they still compliment me in the end, something that I noticed is increasing. Don’t get me wrong I feel very comfortable in my skin, but when I’m banging a girl I don’t believe it was because of my look. I believe it’s because I said the right things with the right attitude, with the right moves, and with the right body language.
I think a girl will rationalize a man as more attractive when there are subconscious forces at play (body language, tone, etc.). For example, if I had a blog called RooshVirgin.com and every day I told stories about how I never get laid and cry myself to bed most nights and then made a similar video, would the blogger have seen me in the same light? Neil Strauss, author of The Game, is an ugly man with an appearance that is best described a rat. If you’ve heard him speak he has a high-pitched, annoying voice. (I hear him talk and I truly feel bad.) But have you caught yourself looking at him, after knowledge of his success, thinking “Oh he isn’t that bad”? He actually is that bad! He’s hideous and I even found myself rationalizing his success by saying, “Well he’s written a couple articles for the Rolling Stone before The Game. That’s why models were banging him.” Doubtful.
Last point I wanted to make: charisma is a learned quality. You don’t know charm without hundreds of sexually charged interactions with the opposite sex. My early experiences with women were rough and awkward and I had trouble smoothly stringing together sentences that kept a girl’s attention. But now I can do it without trying and it’s not because I was born with it but because I’ve had so much practice.
Every year it’s getting easier for me because every year I get better, even as the lines on my face get deeper with age and my physical appearance has long since peaked. I have a feeling my 30′s will be the best, easiest years of my life when it comes to women.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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That’s the thing that I hate about PUA (so new school) they think you read a book memorize a neg or two, peacock with a lime streak in your hair and you’re good to go, it’s instant. They don’t know about the hard work and old school ways of putting in your time and doing work. Fucking rookies
One word says it best “practice”.
Looks really don’t matter at all when it comes to swooping girls, it just makes things easier…like a fat Bankroll, or a Custom Suit from Savile Row.
A note on the Long-haired thing:
Girls have always been and will always be attracted to guys with long hair. (I have taken to growing my hair out over the last two years).
In the early 90′s, before Kurt Cobain made his head all red like that little orphan Annie, long hair was king (and I am not talking about TI’s album “King” either.)
Just because spiky hair is “in” and faux-hawks are “trendy” doesn’t make long hair really any less relevant.
In fact, longer hair only makes you more unique in this day and age.
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The strangest thing is that Strauss dishes out all these techniques on how to sound louder and more authoritative, but every single time I hear him speak he still sounds like an annoying homosexual.
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Nevertheless, good looks do help. But an average looking man can get hot women with game.
Frankly speaking, height is a tremendous advantage and a huge headstart. Now it alone may get you a third of the way there but you won’t finish the race without game, which is learned over time.
guys always want a book, a pamphlet, a quick fix. the truth is…game is like you say roosh…a learned skill acquired the hard way, like any ability. some guys start of naturally more suited, but hard work and MUCH trial and error pays off in the end.
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hahaha i have the same imprssion of Strauss…. I still have a hard time seeing his charisma.
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“I think a girl will rationalize a man as more attractive when there are subconscious forces at play (body language, tone, etc.). ”
In my experience this is a truth that could be etched in stone. Ive seen women rationalize tolerating guys who wont hold down steady employment, have real drug problems, literally have bad hygeine, are constantly broke, have ruined their credit, have a felony on their arrest record, get fired from multiple jobs, and those are just some of my cousins. If a man primally attracts a women, and she sees him as a manly man and leader of others—and a guy who can take charge among men, a protector of her, and lusted after by other women, its as if her genetic programming and PRIMAL INSTICNTS just override frontal lobular reasoning her more evolved brain should be able to concoct.
I suppose us guys are somewhat guilty of similar behaviors, as we must admit to ourselves that we will excuse a really hot girlfriend for several faux pas that we would dump a normal chick for in a heartbeat.
Has anyone else here noticed that people “naturally” as humans (before they learn about attracting the other sex) emulate the behaviors of members of the opposite sex that we find attracitive?
For instance, if a guy is into “nice” girls. He will be way too nice when he approaches women. Its as if he expects to attract the nice girls by acting the same—-despite what his eyes should tell him (nice girls with loud boys). He literally acts like a nice girl (being a good listener, paying for everything, making all his time available to her, always asking her opinion -read: permission), thinking this will earn him their approval, but he gets their disdain instead. They become one of them, instead of attracting one of them.
Then there is the female flipside of this coin:
Pretentious women emulate alpha males—–They try to act like “alpha” females and boast about how “wanted” they are, and how “all my friends are guys”, and “other girls just dont like me” (an obvious attempt to make any man listening think that all her girlfriend’s men want her instead because she is so overwhelmingly attractive), how she is “independent” and “strong” and how “she is responsible for her own happiness” and “is making her way in this world herself and needs no man to be fufilled” (then why is she at this bar or on a singles website, etc). They peacock with too little clothing or too loud clothing and make-up. These same women will tell anyone that they want to meet a “real man”. They are emulating a “real man” with their behavior and not acting in a feminine way. Why would a real man want a woman who has made it clear that she doesn’t need a man?
I see it over and over again in our social and working lives. You see manly alpha men with adorable feminine women who love them. It works. You see lesser-masculine men in stormy marriages and uber-ballsy females in short-bitter-relationships and several marriages.
All of this bullshit culture we were taught at college all those years ago—–”empowering” women and neutering and effiminating men just makes males and females LESS attractive to each other in my opinion.
Roosh, I`ve been the same thing to my brother. Wait till we`re 30, it`ll be game over.
We just spent three fabulous weeks in Rio. I`ve never hooked up with so many women in such a short amount of time. Every experience in South America had led me to that point. And unfortunately, it`s all coming to an end.
I just got to Cordoba today, and I`ll be here till Sunday. As I was walking the streets, I noticed again how beautiful the women were. Ìt`s going to be a fun weekend!!
Have you ever thought about starting a business in Rio, Cordoba, or any other city??
I like that mtn dew commercial… step 1. Be attractive.
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whover you are.. i am insanely jeoulous.. I miss Rio de janeiro more than i miss any of my dead grandparents…
god i need to go back soon!
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I think you mostly missed the point of pi’s post. He wasn’t saying you get women because of your looks. He was saying that you get women because you have natural charisma. I think he’s wrong, but you should get his criticism right before firing back.
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“Have you ever thought about starting a business in Rio, Cordoba, or any other city??”
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Late to the conversation, again.
I just wanted to say that I apologize if I came across as a “hater.” Obviously, we disagree on much, and I believe you to be more of an artifact of a decadent culture than you perhaps realize. But I don’t hate you, and the blogosphere would be poorer without you.
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The Guy who made the comment has a huge brain fart! Jeez! That guy needs to know game.