http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071015102856.htm

I don’t see any problem when your friend wish to have more from the friendship at some point. If you are ok with it, fine. If you are not ok, have balls to say it. No reasonable man is expecting to get laid with you just because you are friends, and if someone expects this, he is not reasonable, and therefore is dangerous as a friend. The same is with dating: if a girl does not trust her boyfriend’s female friends, this means that she does not trust her boyfriend’s ability to make right decisions. Therefore it has nothing to do with his friends, but tells us that the girl is unsecure and stressful nature.

For example, my wife has only male friends – actually, she has never had any female friends in her adult life. And I have no problems with that. If it did not work for you, it does not mean it would not work for anyone else. YMMV. Again, women from Europe are more open and secure, and don’t make it a problem if a man go for a lunch with his female friend.

As a final note, I have seen a lot of female-female friendships. And, having an outside view, most likely I am more qualified to judge them than you.

“The truth of the matter is that men do not want to just be friends with women”

First, the general statements like this are not always true. At least in US I would not have sex with majority of women even if I was paid for it. This is because most of women I’ve met here are well outside my acceptance standard for a sex partner. However this doesn’t mean we cannot be friends. In fact I already have a lot of female friends, and I don’t want to be anything more than friend to them.

But it is still unclear to me what’s wrong with that? Sure, a stereotype male friend would like to fuck his female friend at least once. However a stereotype female friend would betray her female friend – for example by stealing her boyfriend, or just being jealous. So what?

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I have a lot this makes them better friends.

Not being a club goer, I’m not in on what type of women and men go there, so I can’t make a generalization. I agree though, that you’re more likely to find the women Roosh savages here, and that if he’s tired of that he shouldn’t go there.

BUT, your point proves mine. He cuts that shit off after three dates when he realizes he’s in with a lady that is behaving in a way he doesn’t agree with. In effect, he’s saying “I’m choosing not to be treated this way by you, individual (x)”. Could he avoid numerous women like club-going individual (x) by not going to meet women at those clubs? Possibly. I don’t know the scene.

But it doesn’t take away from my point about the person-to-person interactions Roosh may have, or any of us for that matter.

It is very difficult for an average woman to understand the supply and demand theory when she is young, and receives a lot of attention. As a result, she has overvalued herself, and this leaves her in shock when she turns 30, and the attention she receives cuts in half, and decreases every month. What most of them do is they adjust self-value, but they do it very slow. That’s why we see so many 35 year old chicks with flaked skin and extra pounds, who behave like they are perfect 18 year old hotties. Not only this is always funny to watch, but this also explains their emotional problems as well.

“What I was trying to say was that he claims that women want too much, but if you look at the list of what he wants, it’s a bit ridiculous and impossible.”

Yes, it might be impossible to get from an American woman. Not a problem; there is a lot of women in this world, and he definitely has his chance somewhere else.
The big difference here is that if typical American single man (not a redneck type) goes, for example, to Europe – he’ll most likely find a woman of his dreams to have a relationship with, and in most cases would have no problem with her later. If typical American woman (again, not a redneck type) comes to Europe, she will have hard time trying to find anyone to have a relationship with, because Europeans do not expect their women to behave like cold bitches.

“And you might find you change your mind when your daughters start dating guys who treat them like crap and expect them to take it.”

I do not care what OTHERS think about how my daughers are treated. The only thing which is important is how they FEEL themselves they are treated. For example, according to some feminists I talked to – which was stupid thing – I treat my wife like crap. But none of us cares what others think – as long as we are both happy in our relationship. It is not anyone’s business.

So I teach them to:

- Do not set high expectations. You will not get a prince, nor you deserve a prince, because you are not a princess, and will never be. You are not much better than others; maybe better looking, and smarter, but it doesn’t make you much better.

- Try not to have girl friends at all. Women make really bad friends. Most of them are self-centered, stupid, jealous, and they will reject you anyway if you do not follow their standards – which you should not follow. Hang out with men, and have men friends. That’s what they already do.

- Your chance to find a life partner is the best in 25-30 range if you do not set high expectations, and are in a good shape. Your success here will affect the quality of half of your life. Do not look on girls who “decided to stay single” or pursue their careers in their 30s – most of them lie about it, and those who do not will regret every second of it as they turn into their 40s. You can perfectly pursue any career when you’re 40, but you will have hard time to find a relationship in your 40s.

- While making children is not the goal you want to achieve as soon as possible, this is why we are born on this planet, and this is how we survive. Again, you could be the best and smartest person in this world, but if you do not have children, you are wasted resource, as your genes do not spread.

- No Jesus in your life. Every religion is based on lies, and in most cases (like Christianity) those lies are obvious. You do not need a Flying Spahetti Monster to help you with anything – better put more efforts yourself.

The emotional well-being of my kids only depend on how THEY feel about it. If in the same relationship a woman feels that she is better and deserves better, there is no way this relationship will survive. Nor it will be a happy relationship for anyone. The things might change dramatically if a woman feels they are on the same level.

Courts treat it the same way as your tax obligations – so you cannot go to court and tell the judge you do not want to work. What you need to tell is that you cannot work because of emotional stress, and provide a letter from your doctor. That’s what my friend did.

BTW the case looks kinda weak, especially Judge’s arguments regarding 13 amendment. I wonder why they didn’t go to Supreme Court. Or they did?

And you might find you change your mind when your daughters start dating guys who treat them like crap and expect them to take it. Or maybe you won’t. Maybe you’ll be the kind of dad whose “ideals” are more important than the emotional and financial well-being of his kids.

They all vote Republican. So what is more important to you?

Basically the court in this case is right (please read it before you argue). If you are unemployed, or earn much less than you did before, you just need to go to court, and the judge will adjust (or remove) your child support obligations. The guy in question didn’t do it.

But the point really is – get divorced outside of US. Especially if you can do it in some Islamic country :)
Yes, it takes balls. However this way you can get much quicker divorce (one month in some countries), no alimony payments, and get a child custody.

This isn’t true. I’ve never been in a relationship where my girlfriend has denied me sex as a punishment. I’m not saying that relationships like that don’t exist but its not a basic dynamic of your typical relationship. If it is you are a beta and probably are attracted to horrible women.

“The first settles for a typical American woman who complains about his hair on the soap bar even though she resembles her mother—twenty years early.”

My girlfriend and I use separate bars of soap. The second part of that sentence is probably true of most women.

This is a funny comment which you only could get from a typical American woman. The reason is that other women are much more reasonable, and understand that this argument is going to backstab them as well. It might be hard to understand while you’re 18-25, because you receive a lot of attention, and cannot understand that the reason for this is not that you’re the most brilliant, smart and beautyful woman around. But you’ll definitely understand it as soon as you turn your 30-35.

“Half of what you write about is judging girls based on appearance and using them solely for sex.”

He is actually a generous person, as I would not even consider most American women as my sex partners. The only thing I could do is to laugh when I see a typical woman, which looks ugly to me, but behaves like she is a queen. This is SO funny, when a grown-up tries to hide herself under a mask which is too small for them.

However there is a good thing: most of them are single with no children, and this means that after they die their stupid genes will die with them, and the disease won’t spread. Therefore, having the evolution clean up this shit, so our children will see a better world.

And I make sure that both my daughters would not grow up as feminist bitches. There is no feminism nor Jesus in my house, and there will never be either.

My point with all this is that perhaps there is another perspective here that looks beyond women as a group of people totalized by their gender!

Not ALL women are ANY one way despite socialization. Same with men! People are complex beings. Yes, modern society has alienated a great deal of us and things are not perfect, but you can start to change it by giving people the benefit of the doubt when you meet them and being open to the possibility that they might be different, even if your last 200 encounters were not.

I’m just afraid that Roosh’s brand of “logic” here is symptomatic of a larger trend of drawing tautologies that are based upon limited experiences of meeting women at [DC] bars. I hope he experiences more of life and the world before he writes his manifesto.