You understand that some of the troops actually want to fight; in the old days, wanting to fight and/or die for glory and country wasn’t such an outrageous goal. We’ve become less tolerant of violence and death these days, especially when the government is involved.

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And the propaganda machine has completed its work…turning every one of you into garbage spewing idiots. Please, for your own good and mine, stop buying into this social manipulation…and by buying in I mean both sides, supporters and detractors. Both of you have worked together to confuse each other into an oblivious ignorance of the truth.

. . . because I couldn’t possibly know what I’m talking about. mmmmmmm . . . ookay . . . interesting presumption. I’ll be charitable and assume the air is a little thin on your planet. My condolences!

Did I or anyone upthread say our soldiers “weren’t ready?” Was anyone questioning their ability or willingness to do their jobs? My comment had to do with financing/providing logistics support.

THIS WAS ROOSH’S QUESTION: What does “support the troops really mean?” Given my almost 20 years of defense work this is what “support the troops” means to me. For once I’m firmly on topic, but I still get the pompous flailings, as if my opinion were some kind of offront. Interesting!

regurgite -> regurgitate :p

T from DC nailed it. Over-rated.

Roosh, stick to writing posts proclaiming yourself an “alpha male” while complaining about getting shut out of VIP rooms and not getting any trim. Complain about evil corporate America in one post, then regurgite ridiculous ideas sprewed second hand from enormous media corporations. The contradictions and laughable “thoughts” are what keep me coming back. Is there someway you can send out an alert to the rest of the world when you have an idea that hasn’t been covered by about 5000 other blogs? Oh, and your persona could use an overhaul — its level silliness is eclipsed only by your inability to recognize how tired, helpless, and pathetic you come off in your posts.

And your hair? Get it cut. It looks completely retarded.

Hedonistic — Even if all the humvees were completely up armored and all troops were walking around in bionic, bullet/blast proof mech suits, you people would somehow complain about “not being prepared”. Try as you might, you will never sanitize war. It will never devolve into a high-tech game of paintball because the stakes are much higher than that — stakes you will never understand because your experiences with tyranny are limited to some anonymous drunken rugby player “accidentally” throwing it in your ass. Yeah, it would be nice if there were no guns and weapons and no such thing as war, but no amount of fireside vigils and over-intellectualizing will ever bring that to fruition because that’s not how humans roll.

The US Military is ready to fight wherever and whenever because they don’t have a choice. They have to be ready, simple as that. I wouldn’t expect anyone here who hasn’t served in a combat arms unit to understand, but for the time being do those who have a favor and quit acting like you know what you’re talking about.

Some of you just need to STFU and keep passing the ammo.

no matter which two you pick
you ain’t coming out looking good.

Roissy: Stupid fucking cunt? (snicker) Oh well, I suppose two out of three ain’t bad, and probably the best you can do in any case.

“It took plenty of howling (not to mention public embarrassment) for that to finally happen.”

oh yeah? then why are you, along with your komrades in arms, still howling about it instead of correcting the record on what the army is actually accomplishing in terms of body armor in iraq?
nevermind, i think we all know the answer to that.
you stupid fucking cunt.

anon:
“What does “win” actually mean?”

simple. it means maximizing the benefits and minimizing the fallout accrued to the united states of america in matters of national security.

i couldn’t give a rat’s ass about democracy in iraq. in fact, i don’t think democracy is possible in the region bounded by the old islamic empire without wholesale substitution of the population with another. i believe this admin blundered into iraq with half-concocted notions of how things work in that part of the world, but they didn’t blunder with bad intentions. they responded to a threat to which they may have overreached.

if you’re looking for answers why the middle east and it’s satellites are cesspools of amodernity and shitstorms of violence, look no further than this:
cousin marriage.
particularly the form practiced in that part of the world.

Roissy: I work for DoD, in logistics/support no less, so BITE ME. It took plenty of howling (not to mention public embarrassment) for that to finally happen.

Rumsfeld: WORST.SECRETARY.OF.DEFENSE.EVER.

Roissy and Jewcano, I like your enthusiasm, but it’s misplaced anger. What does “win” actually mean? Does “win” mean security from car bombs, democratic right to vote, a country that looks like Saudi Arabia, or maybe Lebanon? Additionally, if the President was serious about “winning”, he would’ve dumped 500,000 to 1 Mil troops into Iraq. Okay, logistically, we can’t do that because we don’t have the troop strength. Well, if you don’t have the troop strength, it’s time to put in a draft. It’s time to ask each and every American to have a personal stake in this war, because without buy-in from every American, words like “Support the Troops” is a sideshow to the Super Bowl. Another 20,000 boots on the ground is a band-aid. It’s not going to stop 20 million Iraqi’s who’ve hated each other since before time from going at each other.

Roissy:

Where did you find that official report – does it have other good information to learn more about the situation? I like to avoid the press to learn about this situation (outside of the venerable Economist).

Thanks.

jewcano: well said.

hed, as usual you spout unthinking boilerplate. instead of carrying water for the chief Kandidate Kunt AKA hilary’s talking points why don’t you brush up on some basic military logistics? there’s a trade-off between mobility and weight, and the correct balance is found that minimizes casualties. and that wartime adjustment is being met in ways that never get airtime with the megamouths running on the pro-kos platform. official report:

“[In a few years] the Army has gone from a low of 400 up-armored Humvees to nearly 15,000 up-armored Humvees patrolling neighborhoods, protecting troops and mitigating risk from most types of enemy munitions. As of this date, the Army has produced enough Frag Kit No. 5 Retrofit kits to outfit every Humvee in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thousands of these kits are being flown into theater every month and they are being installed in theater, 24 hours a day, seven days a week to ensure Soldiers have the best protection available.”

for the record, the “support the troops” bromide has become a get-out-of-jail-free card for leftwingers too cowardly to say what the really feel to an audience larger than amanda marcotte’s vagina monologues book club.

To me, “support the troops” means NOT leaving our Army high-and-dry without body armor or backup. If we’re gonna send the troops someplace to fight we should be sending enough people to do the job, and giving them the tools they need to win.

“Support the troops” should never be confused with “Support the President.” Still, we’re stuck with this mess and need to do right by it. Our president is a total knob, but we get the government we deserve so think about that next time y’all vote.

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I felt, and to a degree feel the same way Roosh does on the subject. However when you bring it down to a personal level your perspective changes a bit.

I went to school with this guy. He’s at Walter Reed now. I’m sad that he’s in the current state that he’s in, but I’m equally saddened by the fact that so many others are in the same situation because of this war.

It sucks because leaving Iraq or staying in Iraq will solve nothing.

Over here supporting the troops. Of course had to chime in. Some things a man should do in his life. One of them is go to war. The only problem is it’s not like world war II. One of the first wars in all time that didn’t have mass quantities of prostitutes. Probably why the suicide rate is so high. Now imagine they want to put gays in the military when they won’t even let you have hetro sex legally. hahahahahahahaahahah

OK, I just have to say this. I’ve come to a conclusion that this blog is overrated; aside from one or two truly interesting posts, Roosh is repetitive, trivial, and he generally tries too hard. I also suspect that he is very insecure. I can kinda see that, since he is not the most attractive guy judging from the pictures, and it doesn’t seem that his personality makes up for it. The worst thing is that he is clearly a beta male claiming to be an alpha. What what? Take for example his two recent posts, one about how much he hates his job and another one where he criticizes people carrying their blackberries. The only difference between him and the blackberry people is that he doesn’t get to have one.
I’ve been reading this blog for a while. It became a part of my morning routine. It would be wrong to say that it didn’t have its moments. I like to think that I grew out if it, but it’s probably the quality of the posts that changed. Either way, singlejew.blogspot.com is my new temporary morning blog fix until I find something better. Now this guy is kind of brilliant.

P.S. I’m from Easter Europe and while I can’t vouch for all my “sisters”, I highly doubt that any cute and intelligent Eastern European girl would ever go for someone like you, Roosh. Sorry.

Jen, maybe, just maybe, some who are saying “Bring the Troops home” are not quite idiots. Maybe they realize we’re losing the PR war, badly — basically 88% of population in six countries friendly to the US hate us (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and the UAE). It’s not just a hate. It’s visceral, seething hate. The kind that makes average Moroccans leave their families to go die in Iraq. Maybe, just maybe, by saying, “we’re bringing home the troops, and we’ll talk to countries in the region” may diffuse some of this (then spin the timetable). We can win militarily, there’s no question on that, but we’re right back at the Tet Offensive, where America decimated the VC but was annihilated in Public Relations.