I just have to laugh at the guys that use bra sizes to measure a girl’s boobs because those they claim to be D’s are actually an F or a G: 80% of women wear the wrong bra size!

hmmm… I think that when men talk about women’s ratings, especially the lesser-attractive men–it is some sort of instinctual game they are playing to try and convince other people around them that “hey, see how judgmental I am? I’m obviously capable of getting a high-number girl.” That might work on some people, but to a few of us it’s really obvious (and kind of pathetic) what’s going on.

Also, for the average man looks matter just as much when it comes to long-term relationships. Fact, not opinion. It may be different for the very very rich, but for the *usual* man and woman, what determines the length of a relationship the most–more than any other factor that has been analyzed–was how close 2 people are on the attractiveness scale. This doesn’t mean there aren’t other factors, obviously, just that looks weigh more.

So, yeah, the rating system might be unfair, but it affects guys, too. That should make girls feel better. And sorry, guys… if you’re a 5… your wife is probably going to be a 4, 5 or a 6.

I came across this extremely randomly on the internet while researching some psychology stuff and was greatly intrigued to the point where I read most of these comments.
I agree that it isn’t a fair comparison of the girls because of the differences in the photography techniques…yadda yadda…and I probably would have rated them differently partly for being a woman myself, but mainly because I perceive them differently. We ALL do. As far as the examples go, this scale isn’t valid for everyone because, individually, we perceive different features as attractive.
In our society, I think we all know that appearances are vastly important.. probably shamefully so since you turn on a TV a find a cosmetic commercial every couple of minutes…but both men and women judge each other based on looks all the time. I would probably be offended if someone shouted a rating at me as I’m going about my day, but we all do it mentally anyway and it is to some degree meaningless.
If the soul purpose of life is to mate and reproduce and an organism looks for a suitable mate with which to do this, then this is not all that different. Of course, the act of sex is not always used for these purposes in humans ;), the search for a “suitable mate” is still relevant. I don’t think there should be so many hard emotions about this “rating” phenomenon.
Psychology and behavior aside, I think a lot of people–maybe other women getting their feelings hurt over this scale–are missing that this is solely about what men find attractive in possible sex partners, not what they qualify as a good all around woman for a relationship. We all know looks aren’t everything.
So, have at it, men.

The girl in the first picture (rated a 7) is more of a 6 in my opinion…that’s just my opinion so I guess it’s irrelevant. It looks to be a decent photo taken with a regular digital camera. It’s also clear that a flash was used for this picture. Same goes for the second picture (the 8 girl). Looks like a typical photo taken with a typical camera similar to what any of us own and a flash was also used. The problem is the photo of the girl which you’ve claimed to be a 9. She’s gorgeous and I wont argue with that, but it’s not accurate nor fair to compare her photo to the others and claim she is a 9/is more attractive than they are. This is clearly a more professionally shot photo. No flash used, excellent use of lighting and looks as though it was probably edited as well. It reminds me of senior pictures from High School. We all looked at least a little bit better in our senior photos, right?

I find it funny that underneath her photo, it’s stated that the only difference between a 9 and 10 is lighting, makeup, photoshop, etc. and so 10′s do not exist naturally, yet you are using a photo of a woman whose hair, makeup and skin appear to be about perfect (thanks to photoshop and excellent lighting) and are comparing her to these two other women that have not been photographed professionally. The “8″ girl would likely look as good as the “9″ if it were a professional shot of her.

Not even close to an accurate/fair comparison to use for your definition. All I’m saying.

I think I’m an attractive woman and guys would rate me 7-9 (depending on who you asked). This 1-10 rating system doesn’t intimidate me (even if it can be hurtful, when you think about it) but I do have to point out one very important thing: The types of guys who rate women this way can be spotted from a mile away and they tend to be pig-headed little boys with no respect for the meaningful things in life. I would agree that attractive women are gettable. My boyfriend is very cute but he’s not the kind of guy most women would drool over. He’s a very plain looking guy and he doesn’t have loads of money…he’s just a really genuine person with a good heart who doesn’t participate in demeaning other women this way. He dated 2 girls before me and neither was even close to hot (a fat girl and a cock-eyed girl…you do the rating lol). He could have done better and when I asked him what he saw in those girls, he said he liked who they were and that meant something to him. Having said that, in the 3 years we’ve been together, I’ve had quite a few people (men and women) ask me why I’m with him…the answer is that not all good-looking girls use their looks to get by in life and be shallow bitches. In spite of how I look, he likes me for me…and that’s why he (an average, plain guy) can get a girl who is physically, way out of his league. There are just as many shallow bitches as there are vain assholes in this world (and I sincerely hope you all continue to date each other and make one another miserable). I look for people with good hearts and as long as they’re with people with good health habits, I don’t care what they look like.

I don’t think she’s a 7 at all. iv bn told I’m a 7. an I’m not that ugly yess off by a couple numbrs

ther all kinda ugle

you guys on here are probably only 4′s when it comes to attractiveness. no really attractive man would have to judge women on a 1-10 piece of ass scale. what sick bastards.

What amuses me is that someone said “We want women who like themselves for who they are as WOMEN” and yet long legs, lush hair, perfect breasts, and creamy skin are typical of androgen insensitivity syndrome, in which the male genitalia cannot fully develop but women have testosterone levels as high as any man’s.
I was reminded of this because your 8 is “cute” (though not my cup of tea) and what I think of as a general girl. Your 9 is stunning, but, if you took off the earrings, she could pass for a pretty, effeminate boy. I’m a face-lover and find androgyny sexy, so I think she’s beautiful.
Also, I’m a stripper. I see a lot of different, beautiful girls. And I work with a lot of girls from Russia and eastern Europe. They may be more overtly feminine, but looks-wise they’re really not any different. That’s pretty much a myth. Many of them have chubby faces, large noses, and thin lips. And I’m gay, so, trust me, I notice these things just as much as any straight man- although, since I’m a woman, I think these traits are “quirky” and find them endearing and cute. Perfect beauty can be an absolute bore.
Anyway, cheers to beauty of all kinds.

I wonder how many men on here have unknowingly been sexually attracted to pretty, effeminate boys….hehe. Consider it. ;)

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I am not a super skinny person, i have some weight to me but its only because im alittle shorter for my age. I have good curves and a kickin’ ass. I feel good about myself, i really do. I am not above dressing up for my girlfriends because no one around where i live will actually apreciate the effort. Where i come from, if ur not skinny and athletic, you’re nobody.
This website is kinda agreeing with what I have been fighting with. However I do agree women are no better when it comes to rating or apperance. You men rate women and describe how “bed-worthy” they are by your standards, but what if that woman doesnt want that kind of attention? My friend is much more attractive then me according to guys, and she hates it. Guys stare at her tits and ass and are complete jerks, she wants a real relationship. Not a bar full of morons oogling her.

‘Group of Women Who Stumbled Onto This Website’-thanks for weighing in. You’re right, rating women is crude and dehumanizing, but you’re missing the bigger point we’re all trying to make in our own sometimes heavy-handed way.

First, you need to STOP calling guys things like SHALLOW and DOGS.

What it shows is that you don’t understand men. It also shows that you’ve bought into the idea that men are the devil and that anything good in the world is the result of something some group of women did.

Look, it all comes down to biology. Men are naturally drawn to attractive women. Women naturally seek high-status males, security (financial and otherwise) and love (over anything else) for the purposes of starting a family. These are the God-given roles we play.

WHY do you have to BROW-BEAT US and try to make us feel ASHAMED about it?

I never complain about what is that most women want (OK, sometimes, but I get over it). I pretty much ACCEPT it and try my best to become that person who will one day fill the role of husband, father, provider, protector etc.

So why is it so hard for YOU to accept your role?
Is it too much to ask that women retain their femininity and look good to please their husbands? Is it sexist of me to suggest that?

What you should be gleaning from this site is that a lot of American guys are TIRED of that shit. They want women who ACCEPT men for who they are and stop trying to make them feel ashamed. We want women who like themselves for who they are as WOMEN and not go around acting like men are evil victimizers of women and that they should try to take advantage of men via the various unfair marriage laws in existence as much as they can just to even the score.

And I disagree that women are basically powerless to change the genetic hand they’ve been given. Anybody who has the desire to do something can do it. There’s no excuses. You may not be able to transform into Giselle Bundchen, but you will be able to increase your attractiveness and general sex appeal by working out and that’s the bottom line.

Girls shouldn’t aspire to be Giselle Bundchen anyway since most guys would rather someone with a bigger ass.