I got a short email the other week that contained a Youtube clip. I was ready to watch it for a few seconds before moving on, but I became mesmerized at what I saw. I viewed it just not just once but two additional times, and every couple of days since. Here it is…
Pretty but not plastic, flirtatious but not easy, wholesome but not prudish, feminine but not artificial, serious but not angry, energetic but not grating, natural but not boring, thin and curvy and provocative without tattoos, stretched ear lobes, and shaved haircuts.
Nostalgia for the past is rejection of the present. It’s a sign you’re unable to cope with change and the inevitability of progress, for nothing in the world remains static. It’s very possible that had we all lived in 1969, we would have ached for another era, but I can unequivocally state that I would be happier if I had access to the women in the music video. I can also state that you would also have been happier. No 50 Shades obsessed slut can begin to compete with a woman who can give an abundance of value besides the hole between her legs.
I say this knowing that women from the past were not easy. I know I could not have banged them on the same night. I know that I would have had to invest in them and to reason with their parents to approve of me. These are things that I would—then or now—eagerly do in order to have quality that is simply becoming too hard to find in the country that America has become. It’s a strange thing, if you think about it, that if today is the easiest time to have sex, why are men still discontent? Why isn’t sex on demand with fuck buddies making us happy? Why do we complain about sluts, iPhones, Facebook, and the like, tools which have no doubt increased our notch count? Why is there a nagging feeling in the back our mind that something isn’t right?
The reason is because quantity of sex is only one factor in constituting the happiness of a man, and it’s not a very strong one. Considering that you are awake for over 100 hours a week, how much of that is actually ideal to be spent engaged in sex thrusting? Even if it was a super-human ten hours a week, quantity without accompanying quality pleases a man far less than quality without quantity. I’ve had sex with many feminine women in Eastern Europe, and I can assure you that sleeping with just one of them surpasses sleeping with ten American or Scandinavian sluts who let me smash within the second hour of meeting them.
Quantity will never trump quality, and quality is simply what we lack today in America. We have easier women who are women in genetics only, who can’t even compare with what has awed me in a grainy music video. The women of America today are not feminine, pleasing, sensual, or even interesting, no matter how many marketing and women’s studies classes they’ve taken. They are vaginas, existing solely for an alcohol-fueled pump that is wholly separate from emotion or human feeling. The sad part is that multitudes of men today are clawing at each other, cockblocking each other, putting their own gender on the chopping block and white knighting against their neighbor for a mere chance at the beasts that our culture has produced. We’ve sold out our own kind for a new type of woman that is shamefully clueless on how to please men.
What do we gain in intimacy with the modern American woman? What benefit is added to our character for learning how to jump through hoops for surreal porn sex with a girl who has been brainwashed to believe that women should no longer act like women and that you are the enemy? Choking her and calling her a slut in bed is no different than entertaining yourself with an action movie that is not even worth a second viewing, and every time you do so, thinking that making her gag on your cock is what makes you content, you have unwittingly plugged yourself into the feminist matrix. You strengthen their cause as you dehumanize sex and make it meaningless and insignificant, well removed from its biological and bonding purposes. I must admit that I have done more than my share in helping feminism by increasing the dating options of average girls as I send hordes of men to approach them in the bar and club. Am I not the ultimate traitor to my gender if the result of my work raises the collective ego of low quality women, making them all feel like they’re the princess of the ball? Am I not making it harder for a man of an average station to get his slice of the pie?
If today is the best time for women in terms of having freedom to do whatever they want while simultaneously controlling the behavior of men via misandric protests and laws, then it can not also be the best time for men, for gender balance is a zero sum affair where the gains of one is the decline of the other. No, the best time for men, in terms of fulfillment with women, has long since passed, and all we can do today—in fact, what we are forced to do today—is to go against our nature and be aloof players and approach robots in order to get sexual intercourse, a very basic feature of human life since time eternal, in between grinding away our lives in front of glowing computer screens and smartphones as we make our masters proud, hoping to feel just 1% of the masculinity that men of the past felt.
When I watched that music video, I initially felt happiness that there was a time in America where women were my ideal, but then I felt sadness for everything it has lost, for everything that we will never get back again, and it all makes complete sense why I’ve rejected my own country. It makes sense why I’ve spent so much time in South America and Eastern Europe, especially the latter, where women of that video can still be found right in the supermarket, the cafe, the town square, the bookstore, the nightclub, and the shopping mall just a quarter mile away from where I write this, and my sadness moves away from my own bizarre fate to those men who aren’t that different from me, still stuck in America, suffering gladly because of ignorance and manipulation. I hope they realize what I’ve realized and have the ability to choose as I have, and one day when they’re on an airplane flying from their homeland, they can look down through the clouds and say God Bless America for the greatness it has achieved in its short existence, yet accept what I’ve long since accepted, that America was once great for men, but no more.
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What is even more amazing about the current day American woman is that the act or persona she is carrying is actually hurting her ability to procreate and raise a healthy and happy family.
I still can’t get over how women have their first baby at 36 and how nobody thinks that is totaly insane. My mom had 4 kids by 30 and says she couldn’t imagine trying to run around the living room chasing a toddler at the age of 40. I’m sitting there talking to this super hot chick i’ve been dating regularly….and she asks me what i want in a woman. I gave her the list.
1.) Thin and feminine
2.) The potential to be a good mother to my children
3.) Can keep and sustain a clean and orderly house
4.) Is pleasing and a giver in bed.
10.) Is smart and has a good job.
She looked at me like I was crazy. I said “if you had to post a vacancy for a job and the job was “mother, wife, companion” what would your top traits be? Smarts, Sass, Sarcastic and FUN…
Wome are idiots. They don’t even realize how easy men are. Stay thin and in-shape, feed me, sex Me and take care of the kids with a smile and I’ll give you whatever you want, whenever you want it. A man will literally empty his wallet for such a woman. Why? Because they are really hard to find these days.
the entire last paragraph gave me goose bumps. It’s been years since that happened to me through reading.
whereever you are, with whom ever you are, it works for your writing.
An article like this with similar sentiment, even one softened and toned down to be less “offensive”, would never appear in any mainstream source (occasionally you’ll see something vaguely similar written by a woman). Yet we see endless “decline of men” articles.
Why? For one, it seems that women are so thin-skinned they can’t handle ANY criticism about their kind. Can’t critique single-motherhood, can’t critique feminism, but not just criticism, anything even mildly unflattering about the state of women. And good point about men enabling modern women. We have white knights and manginas supplicating, and we also have alphas shitting on other men. Not much to do about that, it’s part and parcel of civilization and penis/vagina.
We hold women less accountable for their actions, obviously because of vagina, but also because – and this is offensive – we expect less from them.
I enjoy a woman for more than just sex. A sweet, feminine woman can be delightful to be around. I used the word delightful. Anything, from putting your arm around her while watching a movie, her cuddling into you, going to a museum, eating at a diner, talking, laughing, whatever. I’ve had those great moments with women in my life, even in America, but most modern women have some variation of the StrongEmpoweredIndependent chip on her shoulder, and it almost always comes from a place of insecurity.
For some of us, the decline in the American female literally has occurred before our eyes. It’s a gloomy thought, but there it is.
As Roissy recently said, success with women can bring discontent and disillusionment. I believe you have reached that point, in fact gone beyond it, as many of us have before you.
There is more to life than endless rutting.
P.S. Fuck Amerika
No doubt that feminism is the common enemy of all men, from omegas to betas to alphas to married religious patriarchs.
But TS Eliot said there are no lost causes because there are no gained causes – and I think he’s right. Everything has a price, everything is a trade-off, everything has an opportunity cost. The question remains that Aristotle asked: how should we live our lives in accordance with that which is good? Goodness, not “happiness” – whatever the hell that means – is what counts.
Some of the most beautiful writing i have experienced in a long time, my compliments. Nothing that could be written in a comment could do anything but diminish your piece as it stands on its own. We live in the darkness out of circumstance so that the future will notice the light.
My only comment about when you wrote, “Nostalgia for the past is rejection of the present. It’s a sign you’re unable to cope with change and the inevitability of progress, for nothing in the world static.”
Sometimes progress isn’t.
About the StrongEmpoweredIndependent chip American women have. That’s their frame and they want a man to dismantle it piece by piece to get to their TRUE soft, feminine core, if it even still exists somewhere buried in the depths. Most of the time it does. They want to submit. “Submit”, which doesn’t mean being a pushover, doormat, and a servant, it means they can stop competing, being combative, and seeing you as the enemy to beta-ize into oblivion.
To deal with American women, a man needs a frame made out of titanium to withstand the endless shit tests, which for many men is not worth the effort and hassle, which is why they’re dropping out or leaving the country if possible.
All throughout their lives, American men receive an endless barrage against their masculine frame, not just from individual women, but from society as well, particularly television, which is poison for men and is only worth watching occasionally (I watched the recent Surivorman episodes).
Be an unapologetic, guilt-free men. Liberate yourself from the female imperative. You don’t owe ‘women’ a god damn thing. Be there for the women in your life, the women you choose to do things for because you enjoy it and not out of any white knight obligation, guilt, or shame.
I live in a college town surrounded by women under 30 and I too find them for the most part unattractive as hell. Not only is it the tattoos and giant ears and shaved skulls, not only is it the political agenda of hating men while believe they are at the centre of the entitlement universe, not only is it their complete inability to have a conversation about anything other than Facebook . . .
A good 50% of all the women (and men for that matter) I know who are under 30 are on some form of medication to “fix” their personalities.
The American woman is becoming more and more broken every day and they go to great and greater lengths to fix their brokenness. What they don’t realize is that the answer isn’t more ink, more holes, less hair and more drugs. It’s less ink, less holes, more hair, less drugs coupled with an education and interest in things that matter, things of substance.
How ironic that they’re dancing seductively to a song about sugary candy. Portends things to come.
You need to check out Israeli women. They are very feminine, beautiful, and have real family values instilled in them without being religious nuts.
Your words and imagery remind me of Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World”, one that we are briskly entering today with no sign of remorselessness. Great read Roosh.
Which is why I would much rather travel to South America and Eastern Europe and bang ONE hot feminine woman than 1000 garbage American women.
This post describes what’s wrong with America better than 99% of the commentary from the left and more than 95% of what comes from the right. It’s factual and touching. Great work.
I recommend that every one of us do whatever we can to pass this along, even to females if you think one of them is reachable. This goes to the heart of why men are going Galt, why we’d rather play video games and whack off than put up with this shit.
I’ve been with two women who’ve been feminine in the way you describe (neither an American). After that, I went sorely beta for a few years, but I was creeping back out and doing two women simultaneously.
It then hit me that both of the bored the crap out of me. I didn’t care what they had to say. The way I could dominate them was purely predictable. The sex felt like a transaction. I then slipped back and became a near omega.
I’m stuck here for the time being, and as I learn game I feel ambivalent. Yes, she’s hot, banging her would be great. But I also know she’ll bore me. She doesn’t have IT, and almost no woman here does.
Indeed, Roosh. Something is very wrong. Thanks for describing it so well.
The change in phenotype is so striking, that it calls for a scientific explanation. How could so many changes have come about in a generation? Women as late as the late 70´s and the early 80´s weren´t as ugly as today (I´m 45 and I remember well). It´s not only obesity that´s soared, it´s also mannish features, myopia (from 10% to 50& in one generation!), bad character, etc.
Perhaps Gregory Cochran from http://westhunt.wordpress.com/ should look into this!
The epidemic has hit nearly every western country, except France . Southern Europe and the Balkans are still largely untouched.
just wanted to add: it’s great if you watch the “sugar sugar” video muted to the audio of this one
Quite possibly the only improvement for women since this video was made is the elimination of the untamed bush.
The video brings back fond and unfortunately forgotten memories from my teenage years. I’ve been so inured by modern Wymn that I completely forgot what true femininity is like. Alas, we may likely never see that type of woman in America in our lifetimes.
Great video, great article. How I long for the sixties and seventies!
@BB I haven’t seen any studies to this effect, but I almost wonder if culture can affect individual hormones. If, as a girl, you’re continually told to be more like a boy, and that’s what you try to do, would that perhaps inspire your body to produce more testosterone?
Likewise, with males. I live in a college town, and it amazes me how damn near every guy I encounter strikes me as gay. They HAVE to have an excess of estrogen or something. It’s almost creepy.
I have been in a daze like this for the past few weeks as I have recently started watching Mad Men. Makes me wish I was born in a different era.
“Quite possibly the only improvement for women since this video was made is the elimination of the untamed bush”
I also miss natural bushes! What the hell happened during the last ten years? Did everybody turn paedo or what?
Sorry BB, you can take your thicket of wilderness, I will stick to my landing strip. Over and out.
The music video is from the BBC’s “Top of the Pops” so the girls are probably mainly Londoners.
Excellent post. Everyone has theories why things have become what they are. Bad culture/toxic media environment, diet, pharmaceuticals, bad schools, etc.
Could there be any one thing that might have countered all the above to prevent women from turning out unfeminine and worthless?
If you said “parents who gave a shit about raising someone with character,” I wouldn’t disagree.
Just printed out a dozen copies of this and left them sitting on a few tables in Harvard Yard. Who knows what effect that will have, if any?
Either way, this is the best article about American women and today’s society I’ve seen on the Internet. Period. Bar none. You knocked it out of the park here, Roosh. A complete encapsulation of the zeitgeist behind so many of us refusing to even consider touching those wildebeests we see each and every day.
Love it, Wool Suit!
Roosh predicted recently that this year the Manosphere will go mainstream. If it does, it will be this sort of post (and Wool Suit’s sort of reaction to it) that will bring it there.
You’re a genius roosh. Love your work. Keep doing your thing. You say what many of us think. :-) Your friend, Peter
Soooo….10 years of catting around on 5 continents & still it seems you haven’t found a foreign woman worthy of you either.
I call bullshit. The problem lies within.
“She came back a year later and she had changed astronomically. She was between chubby and fat, was wearing jeans and trainers [sneakers] with the big tongues hanging out, her hair was just hanging down and she was right into herself in a way she had never been whilst in Russia.
It wasn’t just what American culture had done to her, it was what American culture had done to a Russian female. There are many American females who are not obese and gobby – they’ve grown up in the culture and have negotiated it.”
This sums up how I feel in so many ways.
I’ve definitely been going through the five stages of grief with regard to women in America and the fantasy.
Denial – being beta or relapsing into oneitis etc.
Bargaining – large notch count with hope that I’m building towards higher quality
Depression – seeing that’s not really happening (maybe in the future?)
Acceptance – accepting my limitations and relaxing into the game frame.
Sadie- Would you eat a turd if it were free?
These girls are in 60′s mod clothes but culturally they are still in the 50′s. The negative aspects of 60′s culture- basically do whatever you feel like and screw everybody else- didn’t become mainstream until the 70′s. As they have penetrated society more and more, things have gotten worse and worse.
Traditional society works best for almost everyone.
I like salad.
Long time reader here Roosh.
There are some that were worried when you first set out for Europe a year and a half ago. Many thought that you bringing game to Eastern Europe would accelerate feminism in EE. Any thoughts on this?
Wow, it’s so funny you would post this today. Just earlier I was looking at an old clip of the Beach Boys playing on the Mall in DC in 1980. My first thought was “Wow, women were hotter back then.”
That says something because of older generations, women from the past used to look horrific by comparison.
If you’re interested in the Beach Boys clip it’s from the 4th of July 1980 and it’s on YouTube. Opens with a shot of a real cute girl with a hat.
I don’t think it has been said but nice song also.
If ever there was a post that deserved a standing ovation, this is it.
@BB, France has not been untouched. Believe me. When I was there in late 2010 almost all of the conversation I had with older women had to do with how Fed up things have become over there.
Must say I enjoy these posts much more than some of your “Bubble-Gum” game posts…..but I realise you make a living out of this so need to cover all bases in writing.
But being compared to A.Huxley by one commenter – that’s a big ass compliment you should be proud of.
I hate to undermine the premise here, but the women look European to me. I don’t think this is from an American show.
This post also proves that there’s more to the manosphere than pussy and anger about divorce.
I’ve gotten glimpses of it before, but this proves I’m not the only guy who’s lied in bed after sex, thinking, “Is this it?” There’s still a rush when I get the first kiss, when I first feel the wet with my finger, that first thrust inside, and there always will be.
But I know that there’s supposed to be more to her than that. It’s not about pedastalization, it’s about humanity. We’re primates, but we’re more than that if we choose to be, and that’s what we’re supposed to choose.
Women just want to be cumbuckets in denial about it. I’ll comply because if I don’t I’ll be celibate, but I’m not happy about it.
Poignant, and strikes a chord. I’ve recently just come to the realisation that I simply do not find western women attractive any more. Their arrogance, sense of entitlement and competitive natures repulse me. And once you scrape beneath the scum floating on the surface of their minds, there is usually nothing underneath. No depth, no real personality, no soul.
As soon as I manage to secure my financial independence, I shall be following in your footsteps out of the Anglosphere, to perhaps find the wife that the tiny remaining nugget of my beta core still hopes to cherish one day.
I agree, Roosh. Any pussy you can get is not as exciting as meeting a girl of quality, intelligent, confident, with a good humor.
The women in the video, while attractive, were the vaguard of today’s masculine women. They promoted feminism and pushed hard for the laws that form the foundation for the divorce and child theft industry. They also burned their bras and raised hardcore feminists, and effette manginas, and indoctrinated Western society in the ways of the Marxist Feminist Collective.
@14… wtf? ESPECIALLY France has been touched by the feminism thing. What area of France are u talking about?
@roosh. I KNOW you are right, but I talked to so many “ladiesmen”, and they say it’s just my own perception. Girls are normal and easy going if you let them be and when they see your masculine inside. They behave manly because of the creepers and players that hit on them all the time. I don’t know what to do with this statement, do you?
Being 45 years old, I was privy to the last generation of “real” women in this Country- but what I saw in that video I ache for in todays America. I never married, had children and have absolutely NO FEAR of dying alone. I’m a serial monogamous dater of women 10-15 Years my junior who think I’m lucky to date such “smart and career” oriented women. Can’t remember to last “girl” I dated that didn’t have a Doctoral level education and m’m here to tell you- except in bed- they are awful creatures for the most part… I find myself wanting to date a simple girl from a time long past… But I feel doomed to date the over-educated cum dumpster- The situation in America is very sad indeed.
Sad but true.
Nonetheless, I like these posts for their complete honesty.
Keep it going, Roosh.
A little cynical Roosh, even for you. I remember 1969 well and those are the chicks betas like me lusted after with no chance for reasons you and the ‘sphere gang explain so well. But that year most young guys were focused on not getting their ass shipped to Viet Nam, like I did, or surviving if did they go. Figuring out that feminism led to easy chicks came later. Excellent commentary.
Yep. As a 40′s guy I started dating in the 1980′s and in my view femininity started really trending downwards more rapidly in the late 1990′s. I used to never see girls with tats (even sluts) but now it’s becoming rare that I see one without. Way more fatties these days – of all ages…
What’s really interesting to me is that the quality of sex and relationships I’m having dropped off a cliff in the mid 2000′s. If I stay over at a woman’s place I rarely get a hot breakfast and if I do you’d think they gave me a kidney. God, the attitudes! I used to look forward to spending time with girlfriends; now when I blast all I can think about is how I wasted an evening of my time “just for that” and “when can I get the hell out of here”.
Whenever I see a guy who’s married or in a relationship all I think is “better him than me” – even if the chick is super-hot! I cannot even imagine living with today’s woman… I can’t imagine how a guy could do it… Women are intolerable, even more so once you’ve busted.
I agree with Roosh that the quantity of no-strings sex I am able to have does not make up for the lack of quality experiences, sexual or otherwise. It really is a shame.
All that said, I don’t think there was a “golden age” of women; they were always hypergamous. The problem is that at this point in time women are just disgusting cunts and totally out of control.
Yea #49, I’m near your age sounds like and I witnessed the change occur myself. Tats are just cheezy now in my opinion also.. I’m in a relationship, but unbeknownst to her as of yet, I will NOT move in with her. I will say this; I’m lucky in that the sex has been intense, long-lasting, evolving continually, and not once bad, always good-to-great and sometimes mind-blowing. She is not the hottest, not the coolest, not the most interesting person, but hits on enough good points to be worth my time. I would say I’m pretty lucky for an American guy, but NOT all that lucky when compared to what’s selectively available overseas.
I DO agree entirely with Roosh’s sentiment on this no matter how cynical it seems. Its just flat-out the way it is. And one of the funniest things I see occurring are thes cougars and single MILFs who have a mid-life vagina crisis and stawrt acting like the girls that are 18-28 but 30-45 years old. They are in every sense, the most disgusting of all and reason to run.
Roosh, as a 57 year old it hurt to watch that video. I was thinking maybe my view of the past and women being thinner and prettier was just nostalgia. I feel sorry for you guys, I got the best of it ;~)
charlotte allen thinks some humans should be bullet fodder for other humans because they have penises.
apparently, getting rid of traditional roles was all fine and good–until shots are fired.
The best of it only exists in the moment – or so I prefer to believe; not in the past, nor the future. These posts are helpful because they illuminate.
So, BE ILLUMINATED! Live in the day that you breath and play the hand that God dealt the best possible with unapologetic desire for all of life, and clear mindedness.
Can this be done in the USA? Increasingly no.
Perhaps we are not in control Roosh. Perhaps governments are inducing changes somehow at the hormonal/chemical level of the past two generations. The quality of men today has also suffered, with all these feminized traits and lack of internal strength that I see in so many guys today.
Reasons why governments are experimenting with their people could be to reduce aggression in men and bring more stability to society and to promote productivity in woman.
Experiments will eventually cause problems and hopefully our doctors will create order out of the chaos they create.
I did my bachelors degree in the US and I left since I didnt see myself staying there, one reason being the poor quality of the pussy there. I also think that Americans are being victims of too many experiments being done on them. Experiments of all sorts. Someone has to pay the price I guess
Ha! Here you go Roosh; good for your spanky-spanky! Enjoy!
In South America and Estern Europe women behave like women but men also behave like men. No surprise
You are in contradiction, teaching men how to bang bang, and now telling them it’s not good. Maybe it’s time for you to move on. I’m positive there are still fine women in America but as you said you will have to work harder to get them. You’re a good writer, but you are moving in circles, and bipolar…
From post #14: “The change in phenotype is so striking, that it calls for a scientific explanation. How could so many changes have come about in a generation? … It´s not only obesity that´s soared, it´s also mannish features, myopia (from 10% to 50& in one generation!), bad character, etc.”
This is absolutely true and enigmatic indeed. As a male from northern europe, I’m seeing females with progressively male features as each generation emerges from puberty (i.e. prominent jaws, wide backs, tall, big hands). What the **** is going on here?
In addition, #14 rightly questions the soaring disease incidence and prevalence figures and the increasing burden of disease overall in western society. I’m guessing 1 of every 3 people will eventually develop some serious illness in life.
You appear to be in a serene mood again. Back with little egg perhaps?
Your 6th and 7th paragraphs appear to be a way-marker for MGTOW, and inferring the criticism that PUA/Game still puts pussy on a pedestal.
Game is still an ‘immature’ science, its evolution is still yet to be played out, probably to a point it won’t be called game as it may diverge so much.
You can evolve with this if your ego doesn’t force you to anchor to an existing label.
Overall, well done.
great post. written like an artist who just witnessed great despair.
Well said, Roosh. Well said.
BB beat me to it: every woman in that video has an out-of-control bush.
Sigh… can’t win ‘em all.
Roosh I think you need to reprogram yourself a little bit in order to view bitches in a more positive fashion so that it doesn’t reflect in your vibe. I know its hard to go against reality but you know that in order to maintain a positive outlook in life a lot of times with have to fool ourselves. Your confidence is high but be careful about the things that could affect your vibe.
Also I would consider experimenting with a more manly/serious hairstyle and with a more classy dressing style. And don’t give me the I have to be true to myself bullshit. If you are all about performance like you have said, then you need to leave your fixations behind.
You are a fucking millionaire and with a crowd following that respects you all over the world. Fix your fucking hairstyle and your dressing style or at least experiment around.
If you reach a plateau, which I believe you have done, you need to look into things that might be holding you back. You are in search of high quality woman now, so you need a new image perhaps.
Chasing bangs and looking for a relationship requires different looks in my opinion, so I think you should give it a try. You have a tight game and a strategic mind and you have confidence. But I think your clothing style is weak, step it up a level. My two cents.
It’s simple, many in the western world don’t realize their mortality… Especially women. Birth…aging…death…finite
p.s. – the brunette with long hair in the purple dress is my favorite. Hmmm…”long hair”…”dress”…the modern American woman can’t even get the easy stuff right…
Good post. The blonde on the catwalk is cute.
The women in the video are the way Argentine women are today. But you did not like them anyway. You’re confused and do not know what you want just like the women you criticize. Spengler’s law: The women and men of any place or generation deserve each other.
Yes alot of women definately have a hard time being feminine. Aggressive women really turn me off, they just give off the wrong energy.
They act like men, cause dramas and bullshit but then when it suits them pull the ‘i’m a girl card’.
But luckily there still is some feminine women out there and you can find them if you look.
Is game about trying every bitch in town until one says “yes”? Even my Alzheimer diseased gramps could get a girl that way eventually. What does it have to do with skill?
Good read – as a Brit I think our women are quite similar. I started to game women at uni in my 2nd year and whilst I’ve nowhere near the no. of notches most have I have seen a decent sample.
I was amazed these middle class girls at uni who were “smart and impowered” would let me fuck them raw dog with no second thoughts.
The only thing that amazed me more was the fact they couldn’t grasp I didn’t want to date them – that actually a woman stressing her entry into a law firm is the opposite of what I wanted.
That was also a revelation – the feminist propaganda that I’m meant to want a woman with a career etc is bullshit.
I also remember lying in a slutty girls bed (always the ones to insist condom use…) asking myself if this was it – I’ve, like others here it seems, slipped out of game for a while. I will get back to it but right now the end goal of pussy isn’t enticing.
Mastery of other things has to come first.
Divine state of literature. Roosh are the best one. his angry for better and better is pushing him far away.
I’wll recommend to Roosh read Ernst Jünger books, to continue honing his writer skills.
the lifestyle and mindset of Roosh, Krauser and others of these types, remember-me the description of Ernst Jünger main type so called “third hero”:
That is why the existential aspect is given priority in Junger’s works, which show an entire gallery of types of the”third hero” (novels “The Steel Storm,” “A Heart in Search for Adventures,” “On Marble Cliffs,” “Escape to the Forest,” “Heliopolis,” etc.), who is following the way of inner Revolution, exploring the most extreme and risky forms – war, mysticism, drugs, erotism, borderland psychic states. Nietzsche’s formula “that which does not kill me, makes me stronger” is Ernst Junger’s credo in literature, as well as in life. Just like his characters, he calmly drinks champagne.
quote from here.
PS: Sry for my bad english and mispelling.
“But I think your clothing style is weak, step it up a level.”
Yah Rooshipoops, can you please start fagging it up a little more in the wardrobe department? I’d like to see some Dolce + Gabbana t-shirts that cost $300, maybe some open neck to showcase that manly furbeast happy trail going down down down…. Also a gold chain or two, with maybe a coke spoon attached to it, and definitely some jewelry. Oh and I want to see some tight ass Roberto Cavalli fagstravaganza jeans baby, let’s let them guess whether you might like it in the poopinator, it helps attraction evolve. Definitely some leather loafers at $500 a pair, preferably the ones that come to a point in the front like Santa’s elves shoes, but without the curl.
If all else fails, just go for the Adiddas sweats and gold chain. That will bump up your SMV tremendously, like this fagboy mangina suggests.
About French girls: I´m out of touch here, maybe things have gone south since my last visit 7 years ago. But stil, they´re still more physically atractive than, say German girls?
On the biological aspect of change: I´d start looking into hormone levels and the universal use of the pill.
I was born in 1970.
I recall when I was a young kid women would wear white gloves — yes white gloves — to go out and often wore dresses in public. Gender roles were quite defined.
During the 70s it was a rebellious thing for a woman to wear pants. Feminism and pant-wearing went mainstream.
The 80s was the decade the “strong independent career woman” appeared and metastasized. Girls in my generation were indoctrinated that they must have a career to be respected and “complete.” “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” bumper stickers appeared.
The mid/late 90s was the beginning of the celebration of the slut. Five years out of college I was shocked (not to mention pissed off this didn’t happen earlier) to see the revealing clothes that college girls wore.
The 00s intensified the trends of the preceeding decades, plus saw the rise of “No bad people on TV/movies unless they are white businessmen” and “all husbands fathers are bumbling idiots whereas women never do wrong and always save the day — they are never overly emotional or shrews.”
I have two female cousins, one 27 and one 30. I am shocked at the unfeminine filth they put on Facebook and how they brag about getting wasted.
Myself? After figuring out I didn’t in fact desire the power grrrl climbers that I was socialized to want I expatriated to Asia.
Eventually found myself an Asian Donna Reed — feminine, educated, sweet, giving, loves to cook and take care of the house and her man. I may never bringing her back to the US for fear she will be contaminated. Even my mother tells her fem political agitprop like “Make sure he helps you clean up after you cook!!” Please.
Expatriate to East Europe, South America or Asia. Women are still women and men are still men in those regions — quite happily I might add.
@49: “If I stay over at a woman’s place I rarely get a hot breakfast and if I do you’d think they gave me a kidney.”
Lol at that one. My girl cooks breakfast for me every day. I bring home the bacon. It works.
American women, at least a fair share of them, still tends to retain some sweetness until around 20, in my experience. Sometimes perhaps 22-23.
Beyond that, it’s pretty much over. Those few remaining sweet, are long since married and have kids. Why anyone, anywhere, wold even consider bothering investing more than a pump in the remaining banged up old jalopies are beyond me.
BUT, if any of you incurable gamers could bear spending an hour with a female without attempting to “escalate”, take a 15 yo out for a milkshake. Then you’ll figure out why that age was a fairly common marriage age back in the civilized era. And still is in more civilized parts of the world.
You are in contradiction, teaching men how to bang bang, and now telling them it’s not good.
The lie is that sexual experience is the ultimate experience of human existence. Don’t get me wrong, it is good but it’s nothing when compared to sublimation in the presence of great art, ideas, music or culture. You probably won’t get it, but seriously, the pleasure is better. No bang can compare.
That’s cool. My grief is that I will make a breakfast spread at my place with freshly ground hot coffee, and with some of these chicks I’m lucky if I get a bowl of cereal with sour milk. Where is the equality in that? My point is that if I can cook and clean for myself, what do these bitches have to offer other than a vagina? NOTHING! Conversation with a decent looking woman? Please…
I bring home my own bacon and I cook it in my own pan – in peace.
if you haven’t been, check out Prague. Scotland is great too. go to the bar at uni of edinburgh. i cleaned house.
i’ve lived in Sicily for 3 years, Japan for 3 years, and Spain for 3 years. when i came back to the US, i wanted nothing to do with american women.
still don’t. i’ll fuck, but commit….hell no.
When I got married I was worried I’d miss game and easy (American) lays. However I married a Brazilian, and so I get great, regular sex; home cooking; house cleaning; little to no talk-back; friendly, feminine demeanor; concern for health and figure; someone all my friends and family respect and like. She also shops at thrift stores and doesn’t waste time reading Perez Hilton or US Weekly. So in exchange for my admitted lack of variety, I am at least rewarded with behavior that not only confirms but reinforces my own red pill demeanor. Plus my in-laws live on another continent – not that I mind visiting Rio.
First of all great post by Roosh and lots of good comments here
To Moses, I know what you mean… I’m currently in Asia as well and couldn’t tell you the number of times I’ve cringed at the thought of bringing a girl of mine back to the States- the betas would be drooling(including some of my own extended family), the nasty cunts and their femi-garbage, etc.. Too much.
Have to say though Roosh, speaking as a traveler, even if US girls were better than they are…I still don’t know if I would take them (as in settle down with one) over an exotic/foreign girl of equal caliber. A lot would depend on the connection and the ability to overcome the cultural differences..
Ultimately, exoticism and mysteriousness are often the x factor which attraction comes from, which excitement comes from. Too much commonality, regardless of caliber, might dillute the experience. I’ve always been drawn to the mysteriousness of things, and that’s probably why I’ve been travelling(mostly solo, like yourself) all these years. It’s still fun. Everyone is different though.
What the..? YOU AGAIN??
Come back just to complain about how horrid we are?
Oh wait…you’re half Persian. Never mind then. Carry on.
Someone had mentioned that video was from the BBC “Tops Of The Pops” so yes indeed the women would be Btitish, however Brit and American fashions are almost the same, as well women in the States also looked like the same women as seen in that clip. In fact as an American one cannot help but think Jan and Marcia Brady from “The Brady Bunch” (the early 1970′s USA) would be making an appearence LOL.
And yes I too give kudos to this post. Well done Roosh!
Look here daddy O; Bminor 7th flat 5 still should move to the Dominant and once she gets there resolve to tonic with a Flat9th then Trane opens with A to F#, it’s still just a major sixth, dig? The Mona Lisa is just paint on a wooden board, dead and non-moving, Holmes. Michelangelo a sausage eater carved out a statue out of marble that can’t shoot up the White Horse or eat pussy, can you dig it, am I coming through? We can always do a second take pops got plenty of tape… Do I have to play Bird’s Bebop scale for you, man? The mind is just the mind nowhere near the spirit; Monk told me that once, felt it round midnight when I was shooting-up.
Rooshy’s got the right chords changes Daddy O, he’s my main man, the ultimate game for a man is improvising on a riff with a women, now that baby, is alive in the moment and true art. No higher experience needed, can you dig?
Also I noticed the dance style of today is different than back in 69. If you see that video I remember thats how they danced back then; it was sexy without being vulgar. Today’s contemporary style consists of hip thrusting, porn actress wannabee style, usually with chicks dancing together in an almost intimate manner; and snubbing any guy who would like to dance with them. What a socially toxic wasteland America has become.
Brasil is full of the ideal woman depicted here. Especially in Rio.
NZ girl writes about dating Danish men. She’s got a different opinion about them. The commentary following these articles are worth reading.
A comment by Jay says Danish men no longer willing to put up with anything just to get laid by the women there. Go elsewhere.
Ree says that Danish men worth a damn do not date Danish women because they are coarse and vulgar.
ziggedwhenishouldazagged says in Dk you can get more a** than a toiet seat. too funny.
Red Pill – man is that true. I’ve yet to meet a girl that even has proper cookware. That in itself is just proof women have rested on their laurels as we’ve allowed the vag to be enough. Sad.
Nik -I hope you meant past tense. No way do I agree Londoners and Americans dress the same. Rarely do I see work pants being worn by women. Rarely do I see a swarm of jeans in the bars and pubs even. It’s not even close. This is the case everywhere in Europe. Maybe back then women no doubt dressed the same, but Canada and America are alone in their trashy lululemons with ugg boots combo.
Roosh, you are such a tard, ughhh. Why do women have to be thin? We can be what ever we want! We can do what ever we want with our vaginas, that is empowerment! How about the decline of American men?
Excellent post. It’s awesome to see writing of this calibre in the manosphere. It can be passed on to blue pillers as sobering and difficult to refute.
To be even-handed, the quality of American men is also in the dumps.
After spending some extended time in the random bars, eateries, and cafes of San Francisco recently, I concluded that if you were a straight woman looking for a masculine, alpha male in a liberal coastal city, you’d be out of luck.
Almost to a man, the guys I saw were lefty fags, hipster douches, metrosexuals with asymetrical haircuts, effeminate pseudo-gays, and mincing nancyboys.
Sad specimens all around. Is it something in the water?
There just might be something to that. See studies on pharmaceuticals, estrogen, birth control pills, etc showing up in trace amounts in all of our water.
Do you *seriously* think that a music video from
the 70s created for a tv cartoon band says
anything at all about the real qualities of
the women (or the men) of the 70s???
Have you seen the music videos of today?
Is your life like those videos?
Are the women you meet every day like
the women you see in those videos?
“Why is there a nagging feeling in the
back our mind that something isn’t right?”
Speak for yourself …
The humorous irony in San Francisco is that all semblance of manliness has been relegated to the gay male community who strive for the male ideal but come off as a sort of caricature of masculinity.
The average gay male is far more manly in most respects to the average straight male liberal.
S.F. is the ultimate petri dish for all this cultural marxism nonsense, but they are too full of themselves to see the stark cultural degradation that an outsider observes.
Roosh, I doubt you will read this, and even if you do I don’t expect a response. But on the off chance you will respond, and maybe even as a form of letting go, i’d like to share my story to ask for help.
I used to date this girl, the way we are supposed to date girls. Innocence and mutual appreciation of each other. We genuinely liked and appreciated each other. I fell in love- not like a beta living in a fantasy. But rather, I had experience a girl that was undamaged and able to really appreciate me.
This connection was hard as we were young and separated by distance. Long distance never works, and it was mostly my fault. I realized how rare what i had was and i fought for it too hard. she pulled, I pushed. I didn’t know “game” I just thought the connection we had was so rare it would sustain itself. Till I lost her after “beta backsliding” and I just couldnt handle the break up like a man. I embarrassed myself in front of her during the break up, and im sure her parents dont like me for my dramatic actions. Her parents think i was hurting her too much by not trusting her when we were separated.
I lost her. We havent spoke in months. Ive been with other girls who are around as cute as she used to be. But im so afraid because im so young yet every girl i meet seems to be damaged already. Every girl has so much baggage and im only in my early 20s.
I want to win this girl back. It is not oneitis. It is my fear that a once uncorrupted girl is going to experience the things that turn pure girls into doubtful, resentful, angry women. I want to go back in time. It was so pure. Will I ever experience this purity again? I do not care about quantity, once a man has experience true quality one person really is all you need. Help?
You have oneitis my friend. Classic oneitis.
I do very much myself understand the quality vs. quantity and I side with you in desiring quality and the type of relationship you want. Unfortunately, those times are gone.
We live in a culture that no longer even encourages marriage for young women. I’ll make the assumption that since you are young she went off to college somewhere else. Whatever, doesn’t matter. The fact is that the young girl you fell in love with is not encouraged by society at large to get married, keep a home, raise children, and support a husband at a young age. She is encouraged to be assertive, go to college, and while there be sex positive and “experience new things.” She is probably, barring high moral character on her part due to her upbringing, getting stuffed and drilled by quite a few different dudes who only value her for her vagina. Can you say bukkake? The best case scenario is that she will be engaging in a series of “relationships” as a serial monogamist. Either way, it is hard to swim against the cultural tide and like most women your little fishy has not.
My advice is to read Roosh, join the forum, and travel to another country that still values traditional gender roles if that is what you are looking for. Why swim against the cultural tide? It is not worth it.
Roosh is a 100% broke pedophile
@ Rael:l who stated: “Do you *seriously* think that a music video from the 70s created for a tv cartoon band says anything at all about the real qualities of the women (or the men) of the 70s???”
Do you *seriously* think you’re not an idiot? You’re obviously a politically correct entertaining moron who has no idea how stupid he is.
Ask any man in America whose fuck years were the mid to late 1960s and they will tell you it was much better then. Seriously.
The video clip serves as more or less an ontological record that was excavated from a bygone era. Campy as it may be, the essence of what it states is profound.
All you do anymore is bitch. We get it, you don’t like American women and they ain’t what they used to be. Who the fuck cane to this site to listen to you bitch about American women over and over again. People either agree with you or they don’t. Go back to talking about game these posts are getting so repetitive. Seriously, you are one to talk about being boring anyone who has watched your videos knows the definition of a snoozefest. You have lost touch with your audience and sadly it seems with yourself. I’m not trying to
Spam you but how many times can you write the same rant on American women and expect people to be entertained?
“How about the decline of American men?”
We’ve already given up, you’re just finally beginning to see the repercussions.
“how many times can you write the same rant on American women and expect people to be entertained?”
Due to the title it will probably be seen by many people because of google search. I’d love to read your obviously very interesting blog, whats the address for it?
A lot of American guys give up because of the low quality women.
Men need to be motivated by attractive women to prosper in life.
Guys who travel to South America, Europe and Asia transform overnight.
Mess with nature and you will suffer.
I don’t think there’s anything awfully wrong with what was said in this article.
The punchline that hit home the most was the line about quality over quantity.
I notice that if I bang a quality girl (whatever that means to me), it creates a more powerful effect that if I were to bang 3 girls who weren’t really my type on a personality level.
Anon 97 – true game lies in your belief system and ability to have insightful opinions. Also – to know what makes a valuable female companion.
Sounds like you want to hear what lines and techniques to use, which you think will help you.
Look at the number of comments from this post compared to others. Sounds like you are out if touch. What a whiner you are. No wonder you need help with game. Clueless moron.
I attribute the decline of american woman and the decline of the last generation to:
-The makeover of MTV from classy music videos to teen pop, hip/hop and reality shows. How can you expect girls that grow up listening to hip/hop and rap to have any class? I am not a racist. I love African-American funk/soul/disco from the late 70s, but the african-american community is to blame for how their hip/hop and rap music negatively influenced the latter generation. The damage started with bands like Nirvana also depressing the shit out of male teenagers. Boy do I resent having grown up in the 90s and 2000s
-Free entertainment- with all the internet piracy. How can you expect a generation that grows up thinking that they don’t have to pay or work hard for what they want to work hard on their personalities, on their physical health and on making a relationship work? Self-entitlement bullshit
-Lack of classy role models from the entertainment industry. Our parents had the Beach Boys and the Rollings Stones and we had Nirvana, Green Day and Marilyn Manson (which is a decline). Our parents had Earth Wind and Fire, and we had Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dog, and then Eminem and Brittney Spears (another decline). And then American Idol contestants as role models (more decline). The previous generations had Paul Newman, Cary Grant, Robert Redford and this generation had Macaulay Culkin and DiCaprio (another decline).
-Growing up in the most externally controlled generation
*The most parent protected generation- Helicopter parenting- negative effect on social progress, ego and maturity. The extreme close attention prevents us from making mistakes, sometimes contrary to the children wishes. College becomes an extension of high school. Parents are seeing their children as an investment.
*The most educated generation in history (school controlled), and the most broke
-The most advertised to generation (media/society controlled)
-The most watched over generation ever (surveillance cams)
-The most medicated generation in history (pharmacologically controlled)
-The most technologically controlled generation. They dont control technology, technology controls them and have affected their emotional/spiritual development
-The most scared generation- AIDS, terrorism, created epidemics, created natural disasters, school shootings done by CIA Manchurian candidates. All these is worsening the risk aversion of which American society suffers today.
It is the authorities fault for doing all these damage and the American people’s fault for swallowing and embracing all these shit. Thanks God I left United States. I live in Northern Europe now, where I feel like some of the “old wisdom” has not been lost.
Whenever I hear the expression “There are plenty of fish in the sea”, I say to myself “Yes but that sea is full of toxic waste”
Roosh go YouTube and check out miniskirt contest in puerto Vallarta. That’s the epitome of naughty but nice American women. It’s from the 80′s I think
Yes, what about the decline of American men? None of you in the cavemanosphere ever discuss that. I can tell you true gentleman, true alpha gentlemen do not spend all day belittling, objectifying, criticizing, and judging women on the Internet, and they certainly do not need to read blogs about game. There are plenty of beautiful, intelligent, educated women that acknowledge the wonderful differences between men and women and would love to be loyal and respectful to their man, but unfortunately in this day and age, men are more concerned about going to bars and picking up women to ‘bang’. Maybe it is the women you choose to surround yourselves with?
I also find it amusing there is so much talk about modern women feeling they deserve certain things appalling to you. Well what the fuck makes you so entitled?
The poisonous influences of the academy and schooling system which lead females to the hate-filled, narcissistic political views and lifestyles are certainly to blame and have been mentioned many times.
But it’s no coincidence that the outright appalling appearance and personal aff-ect (behavior) of the american female has coincided with the rise, normalization and pedestalization of the gay male. Most women (and men) have no idea that it’s gay males who set all the fashion and appearance trends FOR WOMEN!! So, in other words, american females learn what they know about being “female” and feminine and sexy from faggot males. It has more than been established that they don’t learn it from their mothers or bra-burning grandmothers. This is the most lethal way to destroy everything that makes up a society–beyond just bespoiling some chumps shot at eye-candy on the train ride home from work.
So this is what we’ve got: Unfeminine, disgusting, boorish cunts who look like a third gender and are totally lacking in any degree of cultural heritage, family heritage, and religious heritage due to the abdication of normal anthropological transference of proper gender mores and the substituting influence of disgusting, abnormal homosexual specimens.
Think gays are just cute little benign storylines who only make up 5% of the population (self reported, of course)?? Fags ruined your women fellas. Happy?
Indeed, many men have taken the entirely noble and unreproachable empathy/provider/protection instincts that nature instilled in them to ensure the survival of their wives and children and have now directed it squarely at gay males. Don’t look so shocked. You vote for pathetic “men” like this every day. Wake the fuck up.
There’s a reason these guys had the absolute shit kicked out of them up until the mid-80′s and it wasn’t due to any silly feminized shaming idea of “overcompensation”. You know what it was? It was nature. Keep trying to go against nature. See where that gets ya, ok??
It’s just about getting bored. You’ve spent so much time chasing (and fucking but that’s actually secondary) modern western women you want something different now.
It’s also about them being lazy. They want robowomen to cater to their every need, yet want to let themselves go, and work for nothing, and blame women for inability to have a relationship. Rooshv and heartiste are where boys go after they have been broken by a woman. But, when said men then turn around and have blogs and threads objectifying and vastly generalizing about ALL women, and women get pissed we have naturally ingested the feminist poison. These men are absurd, and thankfully take up only a small % of the male population, just as the women they bash.
Cate: Women are responsible for sexual selection. If young Western women wanted commitment they would get it, just like their grandmas generation did. The reason PUA culture exists is because the old rules no longer work and men have been forced to adjust accordingly.
Gentlemen don’t have as much success with women now as they did in the past. The NAWALT defence only goes so far.
“Have you seen the music videos of today?
Is your life like those videos?
Are the women you meet every day like
[b]the women you see in those videos?[/b]”
Ehm..yes..the women you see these days are pretty much the same way as the women in music videos. Loud, obnoxious, attention whoring.
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wow i dont normally leave anonymous hate but i’m just going to say that you’re really fucking stupid and i hope you die a horrible, slow, painful death and that before that you never get laid again and also that you injure both your hands so that you can never masturbate :)
St. Augustine, at one time a very lusty, young man, brought up similar issues regarding the potential emptiness of sex and how there is much more to life. Ultimately, meaningless sex with skanky American broads won’t cut the mustard. We are meant for more and meaningless sex is not the premium gasoline that will keep our car running, but just watered down gas with crap in it. Good for a little bit, but ultimately it only ruins our car.
“You strengthen their cause as you dehumanize sex and make it meaningless and insignificant, well removed from its biological and bonding purposes.”
that is what we call hypocrisy, folks.
I think it’s a complete turn off the way American women present themselves to men and how they do it. Especially in the bedroom. They don’t try hard enough to please a man. Most have lost their femininity. They also constantly throw nice guys under the bus and outcast them.
To find a woman with femininity in America is like finding a needle in a haystack. That is why I quit and no longer date women here in America, which is why I’m with the movement to go abroad to find a nice foreign woman.
“A man without religion is to be pitied. A woman without religion is a horror beyond all things”
put that in your pipe and smoke it.
anything goes without God, if you don’t understand/deny this principle, you will not understand life whether your 30 or 90.
anybody who is “good” who does not believe in God is wasting their time. A girl can cheat on her husband all day if she doesn’t answer to God, why should she sacrifice her pleasure for the sake of one man? one random accumulation of atoms, a subjective feeling of attachment. all mind games.
“When women dress immodestly, and men despise religion, it is the beginning of the end” – Seneca
I can’t say i agree with your opinion, but I find you writing powerful and expressive, thus I respect your view. As a women I wouldn’t say I found the article sexist but I did find your article gave certain social and behavioral expectations for a particular gender. Your expectations are certainly allowed but I personally didn’t agree with due to the following reason.
I find that being feminist has lots to do with freedom. Thus a women who chooses to be a home maker isn’t not feminist as long as she chose to be a home maker and wasn’t forced into the position. Thus equal because we won’t be barred from anything options simply because we are female. Likewise although I don’t agree or participate in the actions of the women you described. I feel the greatest thing about our country is because they can feel free to act as they so chose. Although you may have a personal preference against these types of women, I don’t feel anyone is in a place to say these develops are good or bad direction. It is simply how the state of the world is, and if you have other preference you can act on them by not interacting with such women. Of course it is perfectly acceptable to express you opinion on the internet. I would just like to express that as a fellow human, I tend to let other humans behave how they chose as long as no one is harmed. I wouldn’t complain about another’s behavior as my personal way of protest is to simply not participate.
I have come across this article on the internet late at night. My husband has just made a meal of me–a gourmet meal if you were to ask him; then, one of my babies was up and knocking on a locked door. We quickly readied ourselves and my husband let her in. She proceeded to get in the bed and I nursed her back to sleep. Then, my other baby was up and I gave her some attention and she went back to sleep too. Now, I can’t sleep!! So here I am. I must say that, since I am a woman, I was appaulled by your article. Not all women in America are the way in which you have described. Have you been to Mississippi?! I’m a highly educated, stay-at-home mom of three. I know plenty of other women just like me. Even if they work, their families always come first. Their husbands are proud to be seen with them and proud to introduce them with the title of “wife.”
Also, with your comparison of women back in the day, I couldn’t help but think of men from that era as well. They were gentlemen—gentle men. They regarded the opinion of their girlfriend’s parents very highly and considered it a compliment if they were well liked. Back in the day, men understood the meaning of the word “no.” They weren’t so quick to seduce. They understood the definition of courting–that’s right, they courted their girlfriends. They courted in such a manner as to make women feel more like ladies. That is courting—with an intent to marry. Men today don’t want to marry their girlfriends. They don’t even want to get “serious” let along think of marriage. They want to have sex with her until they tire of her and then it’s on to the next conquest. No wonder women today have a different attitude about sex. On our first date, my future husband told me that he was dating me with the intent on marrying me and asked me if I had a problem with it? Of course, I answered no!!
Could it be that you have created your own problem? Maybe if you were more of a gentleman then your date would behave more like a lady. In this way, you create your own destiny. Have fun in Europe.