It’s very important to get the kiss out of the way as quickly as possible because it’s rare you will bang a girl the same night you first kiss her. For example, let’s say you first kiss a girl at the end of date one. Then it will be hard to also bang on that date. You may bang on date two or three. But if you kiss her when you first met, there is a much higher chance you will bang on date one. Get it?
I’m extremely reluctant to get a number from a girl who I don’t at least come pretty close to kissing since I’d have to invest a minimum of two whole dates to get the bang. Honestly, what percentage of girls out there are actually bearable to hang out with for several hours of time that two dates entail? 2%? 4% tops? Don’t be bamboozled into spending time with a worthless chick, which is safe to say every chick you will talk to this year except one, two if you’re lucky.
This is why I go for the kiss even if I don’t think I will get it. So the girl senses I’m about to make a move because I’m getting closer to her face and then gently pulls back—big deal. But now she knows what I’m about and if she goes out with me (and she will if she sticks around), it’s as if she has signed a legal document accepting all the moves I may choose to do, including any attempt to weasel my way back into her place. I guarantee you she will show up on the first date with a clean, shaved vagina because of the aggression I displayed when we first met.
Speed is of the essence. On a long enough timeline enough variables will be introduced into her life that prevents you from pumping her. But once you already bang, who cares? You got want you wanted, and can begin the cycle of meaningless birth and death anew with another hole. Giddy up.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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This is my same reasoning behind whipping out my junk as soon as possible…. I mean if you whip it out at the book store, she knows what will go down on the first date… just saying
Great advice. For many years I had NEVER been turned away for a kiss. Now, as much as I’d like to think it’s because I’m so attractive and humorous, it was really because I wasn’t going for “the kiss” as early as I could have. I lost a few notches over this because as you said, so many girls are not worth another date or two.
This is right on. I meet girls all the time who are like, “guys just want to bang me.” And I’m like, “is that news to you? I have news for you then; I just want to bang girls.” So going out, mixing it up and clicking with someone, you just have to be about getting a kiss if a substantial amount of time is invested with her (for me, “substantial” is the hour mark; two hours and you have to kiss).
“I guarantee you she will show up on the first date with a clean, shaved vagina because of the aggression I displayed when we first met.”
in the words of Martin Luther THE King.
“Truth crushed the earth will rise again”
A lot of truth to that blurb
Good post, sound advice. Thank you again, Roosh!
In my opinion you’ll be able to shag a lot of the girls the same evening you first kiss them. But of course, i’m living in a pretty liberal european country. Just glad I don’t have to deal with all the dating stuff:)
Le sigh. It’s hard to keep faith in mankind with posts like this. C’mon man. What would your mother think if she read this?
Doesn’t this argument presuppose the girl is attracted to you and actually wants to kiss you? I think it is correct to suggest that the minute you get the vibe she is attracted, proceed with kissing as soon as possible. However, if she isnt into you yet, going in for a kiss too soon will indicate naivete, inexperience and generally blow up your interaction.
Roosh is spot though– in general kissing is an important milestone in the seduction timeline and its causal relation to subsequent events is crucial. The earlier its accomplished the faster you get into her pants.
I went out with this chick and asked her to come home with me on the first date. She said she didn’t sleep with men on the first date.
So I ended the date early, and told her to call me at midnight, and we could go on a second date. She went and hung out with some friends.
She called at midnight, came over, and blew me while I was wearing only a Fedora hat and trenchcoat. Good times.
el chief, that’s awesome. well done.
pretty strong arguments, i can definitely relate.
only thing is that rushing in like that makes it a night stand pretty much without further ado.
but who wants more than that right? …:)
giddy up is right.
I usually dont waste much time and money on women in these broke and desperate times.Ill do alot of “pregame”warm up you know texting them maybe some phone play,
get them thinking about me then say yeah let take you out somewhere .and set up a date which is really “oh, lets get some drinks at my place before we go to “so and so place,one thing leads to another when we are at my place/hotel,she forgets all about the date and its all about knockin boots for the night,baby.a player has to make “budget cuts” in this day and age I just get to the point, if shes hungry afterwards i just take her ass to the drive thru as i drop her ass off where ever the bitch lives..
oh i forgot to mention.or call her a cab .
Good post and great advice I’ll keep in the back of my mind. This was your redemption from that camera post a few days ago.
your views are quite funny, but i can see your logic. the quicker the kiss then the quicker u can get to the next base.
bob house’s last blog post: Sell House Fast : Gain on Time and Cash.
At the same time Roosh, if she sees what you want and pulls away, and you are still after her. She knows she has control of the situation, of the night. When you spend a date, or two dates with her. You’ve already invested, and want to go on the 3rd to get to home plate, but she has control and knows she can possibly score a 4th free-for-her night out, dinner, etc
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this is awesome. keep up the good work.