The term “manosphere” is generally applied to any game or men’s right blog that goes against mainstream thinking of pedestalizing women at the expense of men. Since there’s no central authority, that leaves some guys who stumble onto one of our sites left wondering what the deal is. It doesn’t help that there are wide variations in focus between one manosphere blog and the next.
I have found an article that effortlessly ties in all our beliefs. It makes it clear what we stand for while offering one devastating argument after another against feminist thinking. It’s called The Misandry Bubble.
It’s a rational, well-sourced work that explains exactly how men in the West are being destroyed, specifically beta males. The article is long but necessary reading for every male citizen of the United States.
“Beta males who were told to follow a responsible, productive life of conformity found that they were swindled.”
The author describes the climate that gave rise to game and guys like me, even though he gets a bit moral about its application. By teaching you game, I hope that you will avoid a fate that befall many men in America. In case you don’t want to learn game, the article will scare you straight from getting married:
“There are large numbers of middle-class men who were upstanding citizens, who were subjected to divorce against their will, had their children taken from them, pay alimony masked as child support that is so high that many of them have to live out of their cars or with their relatives, and after job loss from economic conditions, are imprisoned simply for running out of money.”
I’ve never seen an article that so thoroughly destroys feminism in one swoop. It made me wish I had written it myself. Some choice quotes:
“The word ‘misogynist’ has expanded to such an extreme that it is the Pavlovian response to anything a ‘feminist’ feels bad about, but cannot articulate in an adult-like manner.”
“The ‘feminist’ media’s attempt to normalize ‘cougarhood’ is evidence of gasping desperation to package failure as a desirable outcome, which will never become mainstream due to sheer biological realities.”
“The obligation of working-age people to support the elderly should not be socialized in order to subsidize women who chose not to reproduce.”
He even cites expatriation as a method to subvert feminism, something I recently hinted at in You Can’t Get Laid In The USA.
I’ll be the first admit this is a depressing article for showing how men have been crushed in the past 40 years, but at the very end he offers hope by predicting the end of the feminist movement. Either feminism dies or it takes the whole of Western society with it. The game will change with its demise, but by that point I’ll be an old man with a duffel bag of Cialis banging teenage prostitutes somewhere in Latin America. I’ll let the next generation figure it out.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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Breivik has one hell of a huge cock, as the linked picture reveals
Why a guy like this threw his life away without even leaving any offspring
How on earth did he not just enjoy what life would have had to offer?? Hot sex with cock hungry scandinavian queens
@ harman hajy. You have to look pretty hard to notice something that just might just be an optical illusion. Do you often observe men’s crotches ?
That article/post was so good, I still have the blog in my RSS reader, even though he only seems to do about 2 posts a year.
Some of your writings have been fighting the good fight recently, Roosh, but I wish the two/three camps PUA, MRA, and MGTOW would come together and realize they are far more alike than they are different.
The PUA camp views MRA/MGTOW as bitter losers, incorrectly assuming alpha game creates a impenetrable shield against rape accusations and/or ‘I’m not happy’ divorces and asset theft. Meanwhile, the MRA camp views PUAs as children that can’t think rationally. Unfortunately, their level of vitriol is alienating to many, and otherwise damaging to their cause.
As with most things, a balanced approach is best. It’s important to realize that women aren’t an enemy; they are a pleasure to partake in when one chooses. However, it’s important to realize that success with women is only a small part of being your own man. Don’t allow yourself to be blinded by the pussy to the point where you find yourself chewing on the barrel of a shotgun when you are 45 after the wife ran off with the kids and all your money.
@roosh The author traces “rising crime” along with other societal ills to a common cause when in fact crime rates in America are at a 40 year low despite high unemployment and rising levels of poverty. I’m thinking if he got this wrong what else in his article is just to feed his perception ?
I’m not saying he’s wrong but he is definitely lazy.
Time to MANILOW up!
Nonetheless, the only thing fueling feminism and the decay of America are beta males who are buying into the system. They are the ones pedestalizing women, spending money on women, marrying, getting mortgages, white-knighting, working cube jobs to pay taxes that support the corrupt government & feminists, engineering weapons that allow America to export “femi-democracy” & other filth.
So maybe beta males do deserve to be destroyed for their lack of vision and weakness.
Feminism will die because it eats its power base: beta males. Without beta males, there goes Western society. History repeats itself and there will be another Dark Age.
I think it’s a cylic thing that Western society is doomed to repeat.
p.s. RIP Qadaffi. America & the West hates dick-tators because America hates patriarchs. Libya, prepared to be liberatd from your oil & get raped back to the stone ages by Western femi-capitalists.
roissy deleted his blog and destroyed all the links to his gold.
“but by that point I’ll be an old man with a duffel bag of Cialis”
yes but by then your Elderly Chat will be spectacular
And #9 and #11, you can find any “roissy” link by simply inserting “heartiste” where roissy was previously. The brilliant roissy has maintained his archives completely intact with this one simple change to any link address.
I love you Roosh! You are my man crush! Thanks for everything that you do for men! For spreading the word!
the misandry bubble article is funny. i think america’s “societal ills” have more to do our declining global economic competitiveness, lagging schools, bad policy choices (outside of the pro-feminist agenda) etc. etc. etc. at least try to account for this stuff. but hey, whatever lets you sleep at night.
you brilliant motha fucka thank you!
Is there anyone else in the Manosphere that has written about Brazilian women?
I agree with #14, blaming everything on feminism ignores the more complex factors at work.
He has also issued a call to activism, exactly one year later :
This spans both Game awareness-building, as well as MRA legal-system activism.
Read this awhile back and it has opened my eyes more than any pua/mra thing I have ever come across. Then I also read roissy’s entries on his new blog (both new and old) which supports “The Misandry Bubble” 100%.
Whats great about both is that they prove WHY game works!
Doesn’t matter if you see the information as misogynistic, there are gems of truth that you will never hear from your father or even your grandfather!
I am only 22 but when I talked to a 30 year old American about the info that I learned from all of this, and how women are hypergamous and not monogomous, he said “Wow! if I knew about what you know about women, I wouldn’t have lost a house to my ex fiance!” He told me to not commit and focus on my career. He also told me that to give feminism the finger, you need to say that you don’t need a woman, and stay single.
When I talked to a 39 year old woman (she was attractive but married) about how there are going to be more cougars, because more men like me are realizing that marriage is a crock of shit, and how men are being cuckolded, how men coming back from Iraq to more heartache (cheating wife),and how as many women cheat as men do (wasn’t as blunt about this as I was with the American, because I didn’t want to sound insulting to women). She told me I was paranoid and jaded against women, but she said I was smart and she agreed with me. She agreed that the court is not fair against men (Canadian family court is not as brutal, but it’s still unfair). She said that I am a good guy, and that if she is in town next year and I am still single, she will have some young female co workers to introduce me to.
Honestly, women are not wanting to fill their gender roles (being a mother, cook, barely leaving the house), so why should us men fill our gender roles (provider, chivalry, beast of burden)?
Seriously, shamming men of having peter pan syndrome and telling them to “man up” would be like me telling a female lawyer student to shut the fuck up, get back in the kitchen and make me a god damn sammich! Both parties find it insulting! Men realize this, but many women don’t!
Whats sad is I have told my friends some of this, but they are AFC’s who have had 1 or 2 girls in their lives (both LTR) and laughed at me after telling them this. It will really hurt me if they suffer the same fate as the men described in the Misandry Bubble.
You can have a lustful, loving relationship without having to get married, remember this when a girlfriend gives you “marry me or I am going to leave you!” bullshit.
every male citizen of the united states is to blame for letting the feminism bullshit happen. yeah you all heard me all of you are to blame for letting women take your jobs and your respect. Guys in the middle east are all laughing at you guys. im out
Odds (and whoever else), you’re welcome. I’ve been working my way through the Roissy archives from post 1. There’s some good reading back there.
I agree that it’s the fault of the American male in the first place, starting with things like beta fathers doing the “Daddy’s Little Princess” routine all the way to beta college nerds doing full-blown white knighting of undeserving skanks. Thank you, though, for the article and link.
when a woman is not happy, noone is happy
I second # 19, and this post.
The Misandry Bubble is the best thing I have read so far in the manosphere that ties all of the elements together. (BTW, misandry is finally starting to register as a word in many spell checks, but manosphere is not – wonder how long it will be).
I wish that author would write more. I have it bookmarked, and I believe it is ideal to send to feminists or doubting thomas white knights as an intro to manosphere ideals.
Another person who I would go so far as to call the Godfather of Modern Game, and who gets little credit, is Tom Leykis. Go to leykis online and you can download years worth of his Los Angeles radio show from the 2000′s. It’s awesome stuff. All of it is laying out the foundation of game, and he has thousands of female callers that verify every word of every theory. If anyone doubted before, as to the true nature of women, go download a few months of those radio shows and listen to those female callers for yourself.
Roissy is a genius writer and cuts like a saber into the heart of darkness that is the female id. Every man over 15 should read his entire archive.
Roosh is like the ground General, a true tactician, long on specifics and field reports and shorter on the keyboard philosophizing. The perfect action catalyst to Roissy’s abstractions.
If you go through all of that material, and throw in the Delusion Damage archives, plus some Sun Tzu and Robert Greene, and Dale Carnegie, then get off your ass and apply it, you will be unstoppable in all aspects of your life.
I used to think “game” was just a cheap way to get laid using fancy linguistic tricks.
It does something far more important – it opens a young man’s eyes to society’s dogma and lies, and allows him to connect dots and see how many other things are lies. How it’s all just sticks and carrots designed to make us work hard all our lives and raise the new generation of workers. It makes one feel that all those instincts he had about how wrong our society was, did not make him crazy after all. They are the crazy ones.
Once you have freed yourself from the endless, petty expectations of women in LTRs, you are more free than most guys out there. But you lose the satisfaction of being a patriarch and building a family legacy if that’s your thing.
The conclusion popular in the manosphere, that I subscribe to as well, is that one should work hard, save their money, start a small business that can be done online, move abroad, pay as little taxes as possible, and only marry a foreign woman if at all. Unfortunately these steps are necessary to right the wrongs, and they fall on our shoulders. We are similar to the generation of men who had to fight brutally for worker’s rights, unions, and such. They had their lives turned upside down, so that future generations could be fat and happy. We have to boycott feminists, the tax structure that supports them, and marriage under feminist laws.
@17; Feminism is but one facet of progressivism. That, in it’s entirety, is what needs repeal for America once again to become civilized.
“Despite ‘feminists’ claiming that this is the fruit of their hard work, inventions like the vacuum cleaner, washing machine, and oven were the primary drivers behind liberating women from household chores and freeing them up to enter the workforce.”
This is completely true, regardless of what the feminist alpha whales like Dworkin say.
The misandry bubble will pop whem the dollar loses around 50% or more of its value (read: defaults and/or hyperinflation).
As long as we can finance the feminist state with debt money, it will never end. But debt grows exponentially, and I agree that the dollar will lose it’s reserve currency status by the end of the decade and take down the feminist state with it.
Roosh: the spammer on roissy’s blog known as GBFM talks about this quite often,
what you need to know about sex game in America:
1. Bums have lost it;
2. Bums will always lose.
Seems like this blog is getting advanced readership with these recent posts. Interesting.
This is required reading for anyone who needs a clue. If I was to send this to any of my married buddies back home, they would say I’m delusional and I need to stay away from stuff like this. Sad, really. Each of their wives have said something to me, in front of their husbands and in private, that give me grave concern.
It’s not all THAT bad, yeesh. Yeah guys get divorced and get screwed on alimony. The answer to this is to not get married until you’re really, really, really sure and sign a pre-nup. And wear a condom or get snipped.
But other than that minor concession, the article is much ado about nothing, IMO. If women want to be bitches…I say let them! Do what Roosh has done and learn game, travel, etc. It seems to be a far superior lifestyle than putting up with some bitch.
I guess I don’t understand all the anger against feminism when the solution is so obvious. I think a world with feminism is BETTER for men (at least the ones who see through the bullshit).
If a woman wants to excel in a masculine job she has to become more masculine and less feminine in the process, both in appearance and demeanor.
Sure she’s free to do it, but then she cannot and should not expect me to sexually desire her anymore. It simply ain’t gonna happen.
Also, I think Roosh and some others are especially sensitive to it because the live in DC…feminist central, but more importantly, overflowing with plain women who think they should be treated like super models.
And as VK has said, you see a lot of very ordinary looking women, expecting to be treated like princesses because they have a master’s degree.
I was reminded of how bad DC can be after reading the forum post you linked on your twitter account:
@MrYumYum Canadian courts are terrible for men. As bad as the worst US states.
I will start several lame threads on your blog that no one will respond to.
We’re too rich to make the threat of economic collapse due to feminism credible. Economic growth will slow down somewhat, boohoo.
However, VR/sexbots have the potential to completely crater women’s sexual market value. The changes to the sexual marketplace will be seismic. Payback’s a bitch.
Though there are several logical holes in the Misandry Bubble, it remains on balance the most complete explanation of how and why feminism cannot sustain itself.
Hanna Rosin can burn in hell with her End of Men shit. Everything she proclaims points to the End of the West, and you bitches are coming down with us.
I’m heading to Rio.
This article Roosh posted is awesome. Not finished with it yet, but I’ve been reading it for hours. At any rate I was wondering what you guys thought of marrying without state sanction? Some of the Ron Paul followers I met used to talk about how state-sponsored marriage was an abomination, and how they were going to get married, but in a church, and reject the marriage license. They were all Christian men, so they were bent on marriage, but they were dead set against state recognition.
This kind of arrangement would allow for marriage, and would keep a man safe from the divorce-rape system in place now. This is what I plan on doing someday.
@Dave: I read somewhere that in the rural areas of Mexico, they have a thing called Free Union. The kid’s birth certificate has the dad’s name on it, but there is no marriage ceremony or state license (and no divorce for splitting up). It’s shacking up, but the gov’t is aware of the union. And it ends there.
I have also read Internet blog posts from Christian men who belong to churches (Kentucky, Tennessee, etc) where the pastors flatly refuse to perform marriage services for any parishioners who obtain state marriage licenses. The divorce industry and the fembots have marriage in the West so fucked up even the churches don’t believe such unions can possibly last when the brides are so heavily incentivized to trade up when Captain Alpha rears his head.
I’d rather rip out my eyes with salad forks than get married, just so I can be raped in court. Not me. No, sir!
While marrying in the church and not getting a state license will probabaly save you from the divorce-rape industry, there’s sucha thing called palimony. Palimony can get them to fleece you of money because you lived together. Then there’s common law marriage after you’ve been living together for a few years. The real detriment even if palimony and common law marriage never existed is child support. Granted Child support is cheaper than alimony and child support, but still is bad. I do agree that church marriages only will mitigate some but not all of the damage should the marriage dissolve. Also try to own your own house without her name on it as it will help but not guarantee that you keep the house. If you’re the Marine Dave, then also be careful of marrying military women as a higher percentage of them are (crazy)sluts and they have worse divorce rates than military men. These women may come in that way or they may finally give in to all the men trying to seduce them, either way it doesn’t matter, they’ve ridden the cock carousol too long and too hard. There are a few gems though.
If the military is paying for your rent and ships you around to different installations, then why own a house at all? It makes no sense. Good luck no matter what you try to do. You know I’m against marriage, but if I ever were crazy enough to marry, it would be a church wedding only. I reject the Satanic government and it’s misandric ways.
I read the article by TFH called “The Misandry Bubble” and i thought like Roosh and others here even if there were things I disagree with, he is mostly right and it is one of the best articles ever written about misandry and Game.
“Research across gorillas, chimpanzees, and primitive human tribes shows that men are promiscuous and polygamous. This is no surprise to a modern reader, but the research further shows that women are not monogamous, as is popularly assumed, but hypergamous. In other words, a woman may be attracted to only one man at any given time, but as the status and fortune of various men fluctuates, a woman’s attention may shift from a declining man to an ascendant man. There is significant turnover in the ranks of alpha males, which women are acutely aware of…”
I touched on women’s lack of loyalty on the forum, and of course someone replied that if I thought all women were cheats and disloyal (thought I made no such statement), I was surrounding myself with the wrong women. I was making the point that most women were inherently selfish and disloyal, and that their own wants and needs come before all else. At the moment they are unhappy, they’ll look for a better deal. If they want a man, they don’t care if he’s attached. Some are worse than others of course, but to different extents, most women are selfish.
@37 Dave and @38 Zorro…This is basically what fundamentalist Mormons do. Legally, they aren’t polygamists because the state does not sanction their multiple “marriages.” They are merely church ceremonies joining them – no licenses involved. Technically, they aren’t breaking any laws, and adults can live in any way they want so long as there is no abuse taking place (like when Warren Jeffs was “marrying” and raping minor children). Good luck in getting non-fundamentalist Mormon women to agree to this in large numbers – they’d never be willing to forfeit state entitlements in the event of the end of their marriages. Of course, they’ll state it is out of concern for the welfare of children, but we all know that’s bullshit.
Yup, I am the same Marine Dave. I didn’t know that about palimony, and I never thought about child support. There are almost no female officers in the Corps anyway. Only 10% of our last female class graduated, because Marines won’t tone things down much for women. It’s never higher than 15% graduation for female (it’s 80% for men whereas 85% of females fail out). The Corps is only 6% female now overall, down from 15%, as the war seems to have scared them off. Who knows why exactly. But we do get to live on naval ships, being Marines, every so often, for extended periods of time, and the female Naval officers tend to be decent. I know 2 female Marine officers and they are outright fugs, and unacceptably manly . You figure a girl in that kind of shape could rise above a 4, but no… They’re scary.
I have heard a ton of stories about military women promiscuity. The drill instructors have a saying: “You don’t date military women. You get a time slot.” My female boss at my retail job in college was an Army vet, who booted her after her 3rd illegitimate child. 3 different fathers.
Whatever I do, I definitely will not get a state marriage license. At least child support goes away when they hit 18, and if I did pull one of those naval officers she would be making essentially identical pay anyway.
Interesting. I’m already not a fan of marriage, never have been, at least when I started thinking for myself anyway.
Why not just engage in long-term relationships instead?
Or try something different, like what my most recent post is about. A way to enjoy the guaranteed companionship of a relationship along with the variety of sex that being single entails.
Works for me at least.
This article has always been the first place I send clueless guys I teach. Well done for pointing your readership to a great article and getting it more recognition.
#45, you’re fucking clueless yourself
The teachings of Srila Prabhupada on women and anti-feminism
The purpose of this essay is to address the issue of feminism and misandry (hatred of men, the opposite of misogyny) and how it has destroyed modern society. We will be analyzing many of the statements made by Srila Prabhupada about women, their role in society, and the anti-feminism stance of his teachings.
Don’t count on the MRA crowd palling around with PUAs. Paul Elam at A Voice for Men just posted several articles on how he despises Game. One was titled “Chateau Bullshit,” a clear swipe at Roissy. I suspect it’s because Elam’s floating some “Zeta male” idiocy and the whole alpha concept is a threat to his zeta whatever.
MRA guys are a self-selected group – almost all get into it because they’ve been rolled bad by a girl. There’s alot of anger there and its usually before they reconstruct themselves to get good at picking up girls for free. Once they get good, the anger of the sites is a turn-off – even though much of the analysis is correct.
So it’s easy for them to bash on Game. It’s just their Avoidance Weasel speaking, rationalising their non-effort.
@Krauser: Just what I was thinking. Personal failure projected and hyper-rationalized. Ironic that so many MRAs are psychically identical to the average fembot.
If I had to summarize the MRA crowd with a single emotion, it would be bitterness. Bitterness is one of the loser emotions, so MRAs are unlikely to succeed at their goals as long as their movement is characterized by loserdom.
I am tempted to let my girlfriend of almost 1 year read that article (The Misandry Bubble). Very good girl, etc., relationship is managed very well and we are both happy. However, I feel some pressure from her (and even much more from family and friends) pushing towards marriage, kids, etc. I have no interest in that at this moment. BTW, she definitely dislikes feminism, is center-right conservative and family oriented. Should I let her take the red pill? I can imagine it would make her quite depressed, She is aware of my jaded attitude and of course doesn’t like it…
Eurotrash, it could be a good experiment, but don’t expect much out of it; maybe you’ll be surprised. My best guess is you’ll get a NAWALT and “I’m not that way” aka I’m a special snowflake and wouldn’t do that to you blah blah blah lies. First, as we all know, don’t listen to what she says, watch what she does (or what she REALLY expresses) – just because she SAYS she dislikes feminism means nothing; she says that because she knows you dislike it. Second, just because she is conservative doesn’t mean she dislikes feminism either. See: http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/why-wont-these-peter-pan-manboys-man-up-and-marry-aging-flighty-selfish-career-gal-sluts-already/
Now that the dust-up has died down…
I’m one of those MRAs, actually, and while I did go through the usual things (Divorce, lost kids, etc) I also studied Game for a bit (and my usual bar partner is an avid Game practitioner), and I gotta tell you…we’re not quite that homogenous on this issue.
Guys like me, for example, see the MRM, PUAs and MGTOWs, along with the Traditionalists and (yerch) Male Feminists, are all part of the same amorphous social blob known as the Manosphere. I know Paul and several others have made their positions known. Frankly, I view it as Dogmatic and reality-avoiding – and therefore throw my hat in a different corner of the ring. And I am hardly the only MRA that feels this way.
But that’s hardly the point. My job as a Mens Activist isn’t to determine the ‘correct’ answer or response, or even research the reality more thoroughly. It’s our job to ask uncomfortable questions and say the unsayable. Sure, that means we get a shitty rep at times.
But there is a certain amount of gratification that comes from seeing the impact we have these days.
hate feminism all you want but know that feminism lead to sexual liberation of women which is pivotal to your current lifestyle. Without it, game wouldn’t work and you’d be stuck being a sad, overworked beta never realising your full potential because society had not progressed to allow women the same kind of liberation. Hate it properly and hate all aspects of it or ate least show both sides, otherwise you look stupid and hence lose credibility over all valid things.
Good god thank you Roosh for linking that article! A definitive eye-opener that is a MUST READ for every man living in the US. I will send this one to every man I know and you have earned a lifelong subscriber, again thank you!
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Awesome issues here. I am very happy to see your post.
Thank you so much and I am taking a look ahead to touch you.
Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?