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		<title>By: adrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I think I&#039;ve been rather lucky then. I actually find that I do extremely well with my friend&#039;s girlfriend&#039;s friends.

Ava - &quot;...cute people hang out with other cute people...&quot;

I find this to be pretty close to true, even when I lived in Pittsburgh (which makes DC look like LA).  Assuming your buddy&#039;s girl isn&#039;t a swamp donkey with a terrible personality, she should have a few bangable friends.

I think most guys with good game should have no problem with this. Again, perhaps I&#039;ve been lucky, but I&#039;d say my success numbers are too high for me to believe that. If you are good looking and confident, banging the friend(s) is nearly a lock. Also, I think if you have plenty of the good qualities that girls like to talk about when you aren&#039;t around, you&#039;ll earn yourself a ton of points without even putting in much work.

Now, I have NEVER asked to meet or be set up with them. The success comes from just waiting for a natural meeting (eg-a party) to take place. I think the word gets back to the girl&#039;s friends that you WANT to meet them, and perhaps therein lies the problem. You have already given them a higher sense of worth, and you a lower worth, by blindly seeking an intro. Just a thought...</description>
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<p>Wow, I think I&#8217;ve been rather lucky then. I actually find that I do extremely well with my friend&#8217;s girlfriend&#8217;s friends.</p>
<p>Ava &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;cute people hang out with other cute people&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I find this to be pretty close to true, even when I lived in Pittsburgh (which makes DC look like LA).  Assuming your buddy&#8217;s girl isn&#8217;t a swamp donkey with a terrible personality, she should have a few bangable friends.</p>
<p>I think most guys with good game should have no problem with this. Again, perhaps I&#8217;ve been lucky, but I&#8217;d say my success numbers are too high for me to believe that. If you are good looking and confident, banging the friend(s) is nearly a lock. Also, I think if you have plenty of the good qualities that girls like to talk about when you aren&#8217;t around, you&#8217;ll earn yourself a ton of points without even putting in much work.</p>
<p>Now, I have NEVER asked to meet or be set up with them. The success comes from just waiting for a natural meeting (eg-a party) to take place. I think the word gets back to the girl&#8217;s friends that you WANT to meet them, and perhaps therein lies the problem. You have already given them a higher sense of worth, and you a lower worth, by blindly seeking an intro. Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ava. V.</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/the-myth-of-getting-with-the-friend#comment-24530</link>
		<dc:creator>Ava. V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all cute people hang out with other cute people, unless they&#039;re the really jealous type in which case they have ugly friends (and this should be a red flag for your friend).

second statement i completely agree with.

third &quot;I believe girls are hesitant to go full steam ahead with a guy who is close buddies with a guy her girlfriend started dating.&quot;
this is completely false.  i have many times met guys through my friend&#039;s guys and approach it the same way i do anyone else.

and the fourth is 100% true. but sometimes its worth the sacrifice.

&lt;em&gt;Ava. V.&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://thatsmyprerogative.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/secrets/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Secrets&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p>first of all cute people hang out with other cute people, unless they&#8217;re the really jealous type in which case they have ugly friends (and this should be a red flag for your friend).</p>
<p>second statement i completely agree with.</p>
<p>third &#8220;I believe girls are hesitant to go full steam ahead with a guy who is close buddies with a guy her girlfriend started dating.&#8221;<br />
this is completely false.  i have many times met guys through my friend&#8217;s guys and approach it the same way i do anyone else.</p>
<p>and the fourth is 100% true. but sometimes its worth the sacrifice.</p>
<p><em>Ava. V.&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://thatsmyprerogative.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/secrets/' rel="nofollow">Secrets</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Rio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told him she offered... 

at that point, my roommate and I were ready to move on from the two girls anyway...

he says i should of done it... but who knows how he would have reacted if i had.

&lt;em&gt;Bobby Rio&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/tsbmagazine/~3/381594513/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Get Your Girl into Video Games&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told him she offered&#8230; </p>
<p>at that point, my roommate and I were ready to move on from the two girls anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>he says i should of done it&#8230; but who knows how he would have reacted if i had.</p>
<p><em>Bobby Rio&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/tsbmagazine/~3/381594513/' rel="nofollow">How to Get Your Girl into Video Games</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  I was at a house party two weekends ago and my friend&#039;s wife wanted to introduce me to her intern.  But she brought her over and told us both that we should get together.  I told her it was very emasculating and next time, point her out and then let me make the approach.

I suspect that this is a contributing factor in many failed set ups.</description>
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<p>True.  I was at a house party two weekends ago and my friend&#8217;s wife wanted to introduce me to her intern.  But she brought her over and told us both that we should get together.  I told her it was very emasculating and next time, point her out and then let me make the approach.</p>
<p>I suspect that this is a contributing factor in many failed set ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby rio,
Would tell your roomate?</description>
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<p>Bobby rio,<br />
Would tell your roomate?</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Rio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually banged the cute friend.  It doesn&#039;t happen often... but my previous roommate started dating a hot piece of ass.  and she thought i would be perfect for her friend... we met and banged...  then me and my roommmate simuataneoulsy dumped them both a couple months later.

But.. here is the key.  If she does have cute friends NEVER tell her to set you up.  Always seem uninterested in her friends.  And when she suggests meeting one of her friends for drinks...  show absolutely no interest in going.

Its the guys that beg their buddies girl &quot;to bring friends around&quot; that never get any... but those guys aren&#039;t getting it from anywhere anyway.

On a side note, the two girls I spoke of above... actually offered me a threesome if i promised not to tell me roommate.... i tried to play it cool and seem not too eager.. and shot myself in the foot.

One of the biggest regrets in my life....

&lt;em&gt;Bobby Rio&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/tsbmagazine/~3/381594513/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Get Your Girl into Video Games&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually banged the cute friend.  It doesn&#8217;t happen often&#8230; but my previous roommate started dating a hot piece of ass.  and she thought i would be perfect for her friend&#8230; we met and banged&#8230;  then me and my roommmate simuataneoulsy dumped them both a couple months later.</p>
<p>But.. here is the key.  If she does have cute friends NEVER tell her to set you up.  Always seem uninterested in her friends.  And when she suggests meeting one of her friends for drinks&#8230;  show absolutely no interest in going.</p>
<p>Its the guys that beg their buddies girl &#8220;to bring friends around&#8221; that never get any&#8230; but those guys aren&#8217;t getting it from anywhere anyway.</p>
<p>On a side note, the two girls I spoke of above&#8230; actually offered me a threesome if i promised not to tell me roommate&#8230;. i tried to play it cool and seem not too eager.. and shot myself in the foot.</p>
<p>One of the biggest regrets in my life&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>Bobby Rio&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/tsbmagazine/~3/381594513/' rel="nofollow">How to Get Your Girl into Video Games</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unless they are foreign girls&quot;

- True.  And unless they are models.

- MPM

&lt;em&gt;The G Manifesto&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/09/be-thankful-for-what-youve-got.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Be Thankful for What You’ve Got&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless they are foreign girls&#8221;</p>
<p>- True.  And unless they are models.</p>
<p>- MPM</p>
<p><em>The G Manifesto&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/09/be-thankful-for-what-youve-got.html' rel="nofollow">Be Thankful for What You’ve Got</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never &quot;count on your friends for girls&quot;

- very true.  you should never count on anyone but your Game.

&quot;The odds that a random girl plucked from the city will match me at the slightest is very low&quot;

- Also true.  But many times if the girls are from a similar social circle or socio-economic demographic (ie the super wealthy) it can increase your chances of compatibility.

The only one true girl I have ever called my girlfriend (I date minimum three girls per week) of my life was a referral from a friend.

Side note:  If you do have a friend who is dating a girl with a lot of attractive friends, and you run through them, your friends will stop with the introductions.  Count on it.  My friends never &quot;set me up&quot; anymore.

- MPM

&lt;em&gt;The G Manifesto&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/09/be-thankful-for-what-youve-got.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Be Thankful for What You’ve Got&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never &#8220;count on your friends for girls&#8221;</p>
<p>- very true.  you should never count on anyone but your Game.</p>
<p>&#8220;The odds that a random girl plucked from the city will match me at the slightest is very low&#8221;</p>
<p>- Also true.  But many times if the girls are from a similar social circle or socio-economic demographic (ie the super wealthy) it can increase your chances of compatibility.</p>
<p>The only one true girl I have ever called my girlfriend (I date minimum three girls per week) of my life was a referral from a friend.</p>
<p>Side note:  If you do have a friend who is dating a girl with a lot of attractive friends, and you run through them, your friends will stop with the introductions.  Count on it.  My friends never &#8220;set me up&#8221; anymore.</p>
<p>- MPM</p>
<p><em>The G Manifesto&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2008/09/be-thankful-for-what-youve-got.html' rel="nofollow">Be Thankful for What You’ve Got</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: speakeasy</title>
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		<dc:creator>speakeasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree. First off, far more than 2% of women are at least cute. I know we all have our different scales for what we consider cute, but to me, anything above plain jane average is cute. And even many average or so-so women can be cute if they dress the right way, wear makeup and and carry themselves in a sexy way. I&#039;d say more like 1/4 to 1/3 of all young women are at the very least &quot;cute&quot;.

Now my second point is that if your friend has a cute girl, she probably has more cute girls in her circle. Women tend to hang around other women of similar attractiveness. You rarely see a group of hot women and ugly ducklings going out together. I just don&#039;t see it. If your boy&#039;s girlfriend is a 7, chances are, most her friends will be + or - one or two points from her. I guarantee you her friends won&#039;t all be 3s if she&#039;s an 8. I GUARANTEE  YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. First off, far more than 2% of women are at least cute. I know we all have our different scales for what we consider cute, but to me, anything above plain jane average is cute. And even many average or so-so women can be cute if they dress the right way, wear makeup and and carry themselves in a sexy way. I&#8217;d say more like 1/4 to 1/3 of all young women are at the very least &#8220;cute&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now my second point is that if your friend has a cute girl, she probably has more cute girls in her circle. Women tend to hang around other women of similar attractiveness. You rarely see a group of hot women and ugly ducklings going out together. I just don&#8217;t see it. If your boy&#8217;s girlfriend is a 7, chances are, most her friends will be + or &#8211; one or two points from her. I guarantee you her friends won&#8217;t all be 3s if she&#8217;s an 8. I GUARANTEE  YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt certainly makes a point. Ive seen that happen.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find the opposite happening, where my friends&#039; girlfriends wants to set me up with their fat ugly friends...ugh...  Then you are stuck trying to explain why you don&#039;t want to go on a date with her.

&lt;em&gt;Matt Savage&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheModernSavage/~3/376292929/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Stories Add Value to a Pick Up Artist&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find the opposite happening, where my friends&#8217; girlfriends wants to set me up with their fat ugly friends&#8230;ugh&#8230;  Then you are stuck trying to explain why you don&#8217;t want to go on a date with her.</p>
<p><em>Matt Savage&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheModernSavage/~3/376292929/' rel="nofollow">How Stories Add Value to a Pick Up Artist</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find a seed worth being watered&lt;/i&gt;

You mean being &quot;watered&quot; &lt;i&gt;with&lt;/i&gt; seed.</description>
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<p>You mean being &#8220;watered&#8221; <i>with</i> seed.</p>
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		<title>By: thegrimytraveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegrimytraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless they are foreign girls :love:</description>
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<p>Unless they are foreign girls <img src='http://www.rooshv.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/love.gif' alt=':love:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for one-night stands it might not work. She wouldn&#039;t want her friend, and all others in the circle, to know she&#039;s an easy slut. She&#039;d rather hook up with a random stranger so noone would know.
That being said, I have dated girls that friends have introduced me to.
Come to think of it, I have also had buddies bring girls to a party and they would bring girlfriend who would promptly start making out with people at the party. Yours truly included. But that&#039;s after a few bottlefulls of liquor disappeared first :-)</description>
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<p>Well, for one-night stands it might not work. She wouldn&#8217;t want her friend, and all others in the circle, to know she&#8217;s an easy slut. She&#8217;d rather hook up with a random stranger so noone would know.<br />
That being said, I have dated girls that friends have introduced me to.<br />
Come to think of it, I have also had buddies bring girls to a party and they would bring girlfriend who would promptly start making out with people at the party. Yours truly included. But that&#8217;s after a few bottlefulls of liquor disappeared first :-)</p>
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		<title>By: CrazySphinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazySphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... So... True! Nice post Roosh.

&lt;em&gt;CrazySphinx&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://universalcausality.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/those-old-little-memories-or-what-have-you-got-today/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Those Old Little Memories or “What have you got today?”&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; So&#8230; True! Nice post Roosh.</p>
<p><em>CrazySphinx&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://universalcausality.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/those-old-little-memories-or-what-have-you-got-today/' rel="nofollow">Those Old Little Memories or “What have you got today?”</a>.</em></p>
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