Notch count is a powerful metric. It drives men like GDP drives capitalist economies. But the problem with having only one metric is that it can easily be gamed. If you all you care about is notches then just sleep with a bunch of ugly girls. If all you care about is GDP then just allow easy credit and massive government spending.
You’ll notice that the most used metrics are ones that are measurable, objective, and easily tracked over time, even if they have serious downsides. The Dow Jones Index measures stock price but not consumer satisfaction. Unemployment data does not measure the quality of work or the level of underemployment. GPA may judge memorization and test-taking ability instead of innate intelligence. Notches do not measure a girl’s look, charm, personality, wit, or sense of humor—only the presence of a hole.
Because notch count is not standardized to the man’s appearance or to the quality of the notches, it’s a number that has a weak to moderate correlation to actual game. It’s more valuable when used as a means of encouragement—to push a man out in the field where he can rack up experiences essential for developing tight game. The intense competition among friends that a notch count introduces also serves as motivation.
Another benefit of the notch count is that a man who values them pursues girls he is not truly interested in, which has the end-result of building up his bedroom skill. This is something that his future serious lover will appreciate, just like how every man appreciates a woman’s ability to give an excellent blowjob. (As long you don’t ask him how he thinks she got so good at giving excellent blowjobs.)
The metric must remain a metric, a guide to progress, and not the end result. For GDP you need to measure quality of life and happiness and for notches you need to establish quality standards. Take the notch count too seriously and you will reach a point where you are banging without improving your skill.
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This might influence the way I view my afternoon meeting on metrics/key performance indicators. I keep thinking of regression analyses on notch count and hotness factor.
a subtext to your entire column is also the notion that if you only hit on hot girls, you will only hook up with hot girls. (in DC, of course, that means you only get to hit on about 1 girl a month, goddam this city full of ugly broads… but i digress) true, notch count may be lower, but if you already are experienced in the bedroom, you will start to accumulate awesome stories of fine birds you fool around with.
I think tomorrow’s post should be “The Notch Standard”.. Then possibly incorporating metric vs. standard.
I disagree…..notch count is notch count, no matter how you downplay it with the lower notch count that had a good number of nice girls….it is still work/game to enter a vagina…(especially in stock up shithole like DC)…for most it is anyways….Of course I never have issues because I am awesome, my count is off the charts, but I give props to anyone with a high notch count….it is still the main number that ranks your skill in gettin ass….in plain terms its the number of vaginas you penetrated….no matter how ugly, fat, skanky she was….that still has to be worth something….
this has been needing saying for all those guys who like to brag about their scorecards.
you can assume the guy who dumps a fuck in the chin folds of 20 fatasses has zero game while the guy who scores with one hot chick and manages to keep her around for more than a night has good game.
my definition of olympic-quality game:
older guy (10+ years older than his target demographic) who does not have the crutch of material possessions, fame, or looks to leverage who consistently scores 8s or better of sound mind and normal personality at least once a week, adds them to his harem of multiple longterm relationships, and spices it all up with the occasional 3some.
Is it really that easy to fuck fat and ugly women, though? Most people have self-respect and an idea that they are attractive, even if they actually aren’t. A lot of fat women rationalize by saying they have “hips and boobs” (just heard that one yesterday, actually). You know the drill.
I mean, I would totally accept that it’s easier to fuck fat/ugly women, but not by much. To put it another way, I don’t know if the two really correlate that closely.
Guys who believe in the notch metric are as a rule dudes who bang a lot of ugly girls and a lot of total whores.
I don’t really have anything to say except for I agree with Roissy.
Either I’m really boring or you’re just stating the obvious. Maybe a little bit of both.
“Is it really that easy to fuck fat and ugly women, though?”
just tell them what they want to hear. fat chicks are starved for attention from men. peruse craigslist for an example of a monument to their pain as casualties of the mating wars. relieving them of the desolate lonely hell that is their existence with the sweet soul-nourishing nectar of flattery is all too easy when their daily interactions with men range from callous indifference to sheer disgust.
in fact, using any game on fatties is counterproductive. they’ll think you are sarcastically mocking them.
‘lie to me
i promise i’ll believe’
Excellent Points…But I think what Sweatp was saying is that it can be, and should be, difficult to fuck fat and ugly chicks because of your own conscience. Knowing I can get a lot of ugly chicks doesn’t really help my game a lot, but I can see where it can help build confidence for someone with limited to no experience with women. The guys who talk about their high notch count and are constantly banging ugly/fat chicks need to reexamine themselves, and selling yourself short saying I’m taking what I can get, just proves that despite the notch count, that you’re still a Beta. An alpha male/player/pimp/etc does not settle, they are always looking for the high quality score. Once I got my game on point, I played a little game where I would only sleep with a woman better looking than the last, and surprisingly this game raised my confidence even more when I look back at my progress over the years.
I’m a guy and I’m wondering if its normal to not want to fuck a chick that I don’t find attractive? I have opportunities, I just can’t get into the chicks. I haven’t been laid in a 18 months, so it’d be nice to get some more than once every Martian year.
Whats funny is that out of the all the chicks I have slept with the big/thick girl I slept with from Chi-Cha Lounge was without a doubt the best sex i have ever had. Go figure.
Rolls – Big Ass – etc.. but She knew what she was doing.
never talked to her ever again.
She has no idea how impressed I was.
Well, fat girls have an incentive to be better in bed in that they can’t just coast on looks. The same way guys with smaller dicks have incentive to be better. The best lover I ever had was a man with a small dick and a chest that was on it’s way to old-man-sag. You can’t argue with chemistry (and shouldn’t want to.)
Tampa I’d say she does know how impressed you were. The screaming said it all. She’s just making the world a better place, one dick at a time.
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Roissy – at least once a week?
My target is once a month and I thought that was kind of agressive… Doesn’t it get less and less exciting if you bang new girls that often?
“Roissy – at least once a week?”
it beats mowing the lawn on the weekends.
once a week, if we’re talking about the kind of game that can win darth vader over to the light. of course, it’s unrealistic for most men. once a month is a noble goal indeed.
“Doesn’t it get less and less exciting if you bang new girls that often?”
surprisingly not. the scent, the laughter, the feel of her hair, the way she lounges on a couch are different for every girl and though the act of inserting penis into vagina is the same for each, the details make all the difference.
Counting how many notches you have is fun, but total shags pale in comparison to total flags. It’s easier to pull chicks from your own country because you know the language, the culture, what flirting/game techniques work or don’t work. But pulling foreign women is more difficult because you’re not accustomed to their mannerisms. There are different “rules of engagement”, so to speak, when trying to pick up foreigners. Basically, getting flags is harder than just getting regular shags/notches.
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