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		<title>By: Rajia</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/travelvice-iii#comment-27504</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would only add that all the people I know who spent their childhood in constant motion are now arrogant adults who still manage to be very self-conscious and unsure. They do not know how to have normal, social relations with people because they never had long-term friendships. They cling to their parents and siblings in an unnatural way. And contrary to popular belief, someone who thinks themselves really interesting and worldy is usually someone no one wants to be around for very long. It gets old to be constantly &quot;un-upped&quot; by someone who has done everything and been everywhere.</description>
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<p>I would only add that all the people I know who spent their childhood in constant motion are now arrogant adults who still manage to be very self-conscious and unsure. They do not know how to have normal, social relations with people because they never had long-term friendships. They cling to their parents and siblings in an unnatural way. And contrary to popular belief, someone who thinks themselves really interesting and worldy is usually someone no one wants to be around for very long. It gets old to be constantly &#8220;un-upped&#8221; by someone who has done everything and been everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: craig &#124; travelvice.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig &#124; travelvice.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another popular traveling family (though with an exceedingly greater budget and different lifestyle): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soultravelers3.com/about-us.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.soultravelers3.com/about-us.html&lt;/a&gt;... but you get the idea. No reason not to teach the kid yourself, especially at the earlier age levels. :P

&lt;em&gt;craig &#124; travelvice.com&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/travelvice/~3/-kpW7AgREjY/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Turkish Government Cancels New Year&#039;s Eve&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another popular traveling family (though with an exceedingly greater budget and different lifestyle): <a href="http://www.soultravelers3.com/about-us.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.soultravelers3.com/about-us.html</a>&#8230; but you get the idea. No reason not to teach the kid yourself, especially at the earlier age levels. :P</p>
<p><em>craig | travelvice.com&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/travelvice/~3/-kpW7AgREjY/' rel="nofollow">Turkish Government Cancels New Year&#8217;s Eve</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Zictor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RW,

I don&#039;t think simple conversion tables could explain what girls want for the rest of their lives.

Still, I imagine people prejudge craig a lot. There are 2 main reasons not to travel with babies: 1) it&#039;s cumbersome and it can be risky.

Craig has proven it&#039;s not that risky and he doesn&#039;t mind either. So, I would expect him to still have some 4 or 5 years ahead of him before his kid needs any sort of former education. Maybe then he will decide what&#039;s best for his son, together with the mother.</description>
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<p>RW,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think simple conversion tables could explain what girls want for the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>Still, I imagine people prejudge craig a lot. There are 2 main reasons not to travel with babies: 1) it&#8217;s cumbersome and it can be risky.</p>
<p>Craig has proven it&#8217;s not that risky and he doesn&#8217;t mind either. So, I would expect him to still have some 4 or 5 years ahead of him before his kid needs any sort of former education. Maybe then he will decide what&#8217;s best for his son, together with the mother.</p>
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		<title>By: Zictor</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/travelvice-iii#comment-27476</link>
		<dc:creator>Zictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

I didn&#039;t take offense. I just disagree with what your concept of cosmopolitan is. And I see no need to be so aggressive.

Peace, bro.</description>
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<p>DF,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t take offense. I just disagree with what your concept of cosmopolitan is. And I see no need to be so aggressive.</p>
<p>Peace, bro.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zictor, I was speaking in general terms, not absolute.  If however, you took offense to that personally despite the fact that I was not addressing you at all then you need to build tougher skin because I quite frankly don&#039;t care what is fair to you.</description>
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<p>Zictor, I was speaking in general terms, not absolute.  If however, you took offense to that personally despite the fact that I was not addressing you at all then you need to build tougher skin because I quite frankly don&#8217;t care what is fair to you.</p>
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		<title>By: RW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a homely North American chick does not aspire to raise a family with a guy on 10K a year.  So that really means South America where converted those dollars are livable.

One friend some years back who questioned his desires for travels had a great explanation from another childhood friend.  He said go do it and when you get back, everyone will still be doing the same thing.  He was right.  I was part of that everyone.  Meanwhile this guy had been to some great places before he landed up meeting some girl and having a kid.  So he got a broader view of the world and the experiences with it.

Wonder if the Swedish model of cradle to grave government is your daddy plays any role in the backdrop here.  The government is also literally the daddy too as out of wedlock births there are very high (the US is catching up) and the government is the fail safe from family type responsibility.  

What little we do know of such scenarios domestically is a lot of suffering for the children.  In the US, it launches the children to the highest risk of living in poverty and landing up in jail.

Not suggesting that is the case here.  Sometimes people forget that there are changes in people over time and as an example many self-claimed hippies in the 60 actually became small business owners.  Others took their esoteric college degrees went back and became implanted in the American education system.  With not so good results for America, re: Bill Ayers, but that&#039;s a story for another day.

The American model is certainly not ingrained in those raised in other countries.  Work 50 weeks and take two is completely foreign to most of the planet.</description>
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<p>Even a homely North American chick does not aspire to raise a family with a guy on 10K a year.  So that really means South America where converted those dollars are livable.</p>
<p>One friend some years back who questioned his desires for travels had a great explanation from another childhood friend.  He said go do it and when you get back, everyone will still be doing the same thing.  He was right.  I was part of that everyone.  Meanwhile this guy had been to some great places before he landed up meeting some girl and having a kid.  So he got a broader view of the world and the experiences with it.</p>
<p>Wonder if the Swedish model of cradle to grave government is your daddy plays any role in the backdrop here.  The government is also literally the daddy too as out of wedlock births there are very high (the US is catching up) and the government is the fail safe from family type responsibility.  </p>
<p>What little we do know of such scenarios domestically is a lot of suffering for the children.  In the US, it launches the children to the highest risk of living in poverty and landing up in jail.</p>
<p>Not suggesting that is the case here.  Sometimes people forget that there are changes in people over time and as an example many self-claimed hippies in the 60 actually became small business owners.  Others took their esoteric college degrees went back and became implanted in the American education system.  With not so good results for America, re: Bill Ayers, but that&#8217;s a story for another day.</p>
<p>The American model is certainly not ingrained in those raised in other countries.  Work 50 weeks and take two is completely foreign to most of the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: owen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roosh and Craig,

I lo ve to read Roosh&#039;s blog but you two have really topped the usual these past few days.  Good job.</description>
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<p>Roosh and Craig,</p>
<p>I lo ve to read Roosh&#8217;s blog but you two have really topped the usual these past few days.  Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Zictor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 06:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

Although many of your points are true, I don&#039;t agree with the way you finished your comment.

&quot;As cosmopolitan as many care to believe they are, deep down they’re wired to be provincial unless they’ve grown up moving around too.&quot;

So, you are saying that unless people grew up the same way you did, they are not cosmopolitan? I would imagine that one could be classified as &quot;cosmopolitan&quot; based on a certain mindset, not on rules related to how you grow up.

Sorry, but this  doesn&#039;t seem very fair to me, nor very &quot;cosmopolitan&quot;.</description>
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<p>DF,</p>
<p>Although many of your points are true, I don&#8217;t agree with the way you finished your comment.</p>
<p>&#8220;As cosmopolitan as many care to believe they are, deep down they’re wired to be provincial unless they’ve grown up moving around too.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, you are saying that unless people grew up the same way you did, they are not cosmopolitan? I would imagine that one could be classified as &#8220;cosmopolitan&#8221; based on a certain mindset, not on rules related to how you grow up.</p>
<p>Sorry, but this  doesn&#8217;t seem very fair to me, nor very &#8220;cosmopolitan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunslingergregi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunslingergregi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something any couple in US could do if they worked as a team in about 4 years. But yea too bad life doesn&#039;t work like that.</description>
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<p>Something any couple in US could do if they worked as a team in about 4 years. But yea too bad life doesn&#8217;t work like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunslingergregi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunslingergregi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then get a loan and buy 5 more to make 84k a year but who wants that much money lol</description>
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<p>Then get a loan and buy 5 more to make 84k a year but who wants that much money lol</p>
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		<title>By: Gunslingergregi</title>
		<link>http://www.rooshv.com/travelvice-iii#comment-27463</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunslingergregi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save 42 grand buy two houses in my former area and make 16800 a year rent. Better yet save 110k and buy 5 then make 42k a year. Should be able to chill on that. Just when you get to the 110 don&#039;t try to double it on margin and loose it all to start over it is not as romantic as you would think. Although it does feel cool to make trades in the 100k range. Just do it the easy way one time and done lol The hard way to get an income is the stock market and get rich quick schemes/gambling. Plus on the good side it is not necesary to achieve financial independance. My wife wo can not read has proven that anyone can get rich even with what most would think would be a severe impairment to it. Of course me who learned all about how to beat the market in an economics project has consistantly got ass stomped in the real market because you can make a 100 percent for 10 years but if you leave the money in; at any time you loose a 100 percent you just lost all the gains you made and principle. If I never would have gone to college and learned about stock market I probably would have got houses paid in cash and collecting a rent check. Oh well. Sometimes you have to learn from what you see works not what you wish would work or read about working.</description>
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<p>Save 42 grand buy two houses in my former area and make 16800 a year rent. Better yet save 110k and buy 5 then make 42k a year. Should be able to chill on that. Just when you get to the 110 don&#8217;t try to double it on margin and loose it all to start over it is not as romantic as you would think. Although it does feel cool to make trades in the 100k range. Just do it the easy way one time and done lol The hard way to get an income is the stock market and get rich quick schemes/gambling. Plus on the good side it is not necesary to achieve financial independance. My wife wo can not read has proven that anyone can get rich even with what most would think would be a severe impairment to it. Of course me who learned all about how to beat the market in an economics project has consistantly got ass stomped in the real market because you can make a 100 percent for 10 years but if you leave the money in; at any time you loose a 100 percent you just lost all the gains you made and principle. If I never would have gone to college and learned about stock market I probably would have got houses paid in cash and collecting a rent check. Oh well. Sometimes you have to learn from what you see works not what you wish would work or read about working.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They make a lovely couple and appear to be a happy family.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor girl.</description>
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<p>poor girl.</p>
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		<title>By: todd h</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can find $7,000 on the sidewalk.&quot;

not anymore, unfortunately.  unless you were walking behind Madoff and a roll fell out of his pocket.</description>
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<p>&#8220;You can find $7,000 on the sidewalk.&#8221;</p>
<p>not anymore, unfortunately.  unless you were walking behind Madoff and a roll fell out of his pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedict Smith</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>minus the kid, that guy seems to have quite the life/experience. gives me quite a bit of the ole&#039; green eyed monster.

&lt;em&gt;Benedict Smith&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://thisisnotimefortheinnocent.blogspot.com/2009/02/e-is-for-escape.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;E&quot; is for Escape.&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>minus the kid, that guy seems to have quite the life/experience. gives me quite a bit of the ole&#8217; green eyed monster.</p>
<p><em>Benedict Smith&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://thisisnotimefortheinnocent.blogspot.com/2009/02/e-is-for-escape.html' rel="nofollow">&#8220;E&#8221; is for Escape.</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

Interesting points that are true.

I had many friends as a kid that were Ambassadors kids and Diplomats kids.

Unfortunately, I have little ways to get in touch with them or them with me.

They always had a tough time being the &quot;new kid&quot;.

I am glad I grew up in one place, have a solid foundation and have traveled extensively since I was 16.

- MPM

&lt;em&gt;The G Manifesto&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/02/the-top-ten-hip-hop-tracks-of-all-time.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Top Ten Hip-Hop Tracks of All Time&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF,</p>
<p>Interesting points that are true.</p>
<p>I had many friends as a kid that were Ambassadors kids and Diplomats kids.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have little ways to get in touch with them or them with me.</p>
<p>They always had a tough time being the &#8220;new kid&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am glad I grew up in one place, have a solid foundation and have traveled extensively since I was 16.</p>
<p>- MPM</p>
<p><em>The G Manifesto&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/02/the-top-ten-hip-hop-tracks-of-all-time.html' rel="nofollow">The Top Ten Hip-Hop Tracks of All Time</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dad was formerly a diplomat, there is much value added to a childhood that is constantly in motion.  You learn to adapt very quickly and yes, you do grow up speaking many languages.  Its easy to romanticize such a lifestyle but there are some caveats.  I don&#039;t remember many of my childhood friends and those that I do, I have lost touch with so long ago that they might as well think of me as dead given the number of times I&#039;ve moved.  I contrast that with many people I know that have had friendships since they were in pre-school.  That time span creates truly lasting and rock solid friendships under which loyalty can truly be tested.  As a substitute, my own cousins and siblings are the closest &quot;friends&quot; I have but those are blood ties.  I always feel like I&#039;ve made nothing more than a string of transient acquaintances throughout my lifetime and for a man, having a solid friend or friends that last throughout the years are integral to manhood.  There&#039;s also a question of identity, which I felt I struggled with that manifests itself in the languages you speak.  You spend so much time travelling you don&#039;t ever develop a native accent or your accent fluctuates often depending on the locale.  Sounds trivial, but the vast majority of people need to peg you as &quot;this&quot; or &quot;that&quot; so that they can begin to trust you.  As cosmopolitan as many care to believe they are, deep down they&#039;re wired to be provincial unless they&#039;ve grown up moving around too.</description>
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<p>My Dad was formerly a diplomat, there is much value added to a childhood that is constantly in motion.  You learn to adapt very quickly and yes, you do grow up speaking many languages.  Its easy to romanticize such a lifestyle but there are some caveats.  I don&#8217;t remember many of my childhood friends and those that I do, I have lost touch with so long ago that they might as well think of me as dead given the number of times I&#8217;ve moved.  I contrast that with many people I know that have had friendships since they were in pre-school.  That time span creates truly lasting and rock solid friendships under which loyalty can truly be tested.  As a substitute, my own cousins and siblings are the closest &#8220;friends&#8221; I have but those are blood ties.  I always feel like I&#8217;ve made nothing more than a string of transient acquaintances throughout my lifetime and for a man, having a solid friend or friends that last throughout the years are integral to manhood.  There&#8217;s also a question of identity, which I felt I struggled with that manifests itself in the languages you speak.  You spend so much time travelling you don&#8217;t ever develop a native accent or your accent fluctuates often depending on the locale.  Sounds trivial, but the vast majority of people need to peg you as &#8220;this&#8221; or &#8220;that&#8221; so that they can begin to trust you.  As cosmopolitan as many care to believe they are, deep down they&#8217;re wired to be provincial unless they&#8217;ve grown up moving around too.</p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where does the $ come from? Parents?&quot;

I think he said he was living on $7,000 per year.

You can find $7,000 on the sidewalk.

- MPM

&lt;em&gt;The G Manifesto&#039;s last blog post: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/02/the-top-ten-hip-hop-tracks-of-all-time.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Top Ten Hip-Hop Tracks of All Time&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where does the $ come from? Parents?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he said he was living on $7,000 per year.</p>
<p>You can find $7,000 on the sidewalk.</p>
<p>- MPM</p>
<p><em>The G Manifesto&#8217;s last blog post: <a href='http://www.thegmanifesto.com/2009/02/the-top-ten-hip-hop-tracks-of-all-time.html' rel="nofollow">The Top Ten Hip-Hop Tracks of All Time</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does the $ come from?  Parents?  

There are some who can wanderlust because they truly don&#039;t give a damn and there are some who can wanderlust because deep down they know there is a safety net of security in the form of an inheritance coming down the line.</description>
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<p>Where does the $ come from?  Parents?  </p>
<p>There are some who can wanderlust because they truly don&#8217;t give a damn and there are some who can wanderlust because deep down they know there is a safety net of security in the form of an inheritance coming down the line.</p>
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		<title>By: dalair</title>
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		<dc:creator>dalair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You definitely lucked out with that girl..she doesnt look like the average peruvian</description>
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<p>You definitely lucked out with that girl..she doesnt look like the average peruvian</p>
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