Not until I was back in the U.S. for five months did I go on a date with an American girl I hadn’t already slept with. My game up to that point was only one-night stands and late-night meetups, and while it was serving me well, I was essentially porking the same girl over and over again.
This new girl I took out was a little different—classy and elegant with superb body posture developed from years playing the piano. I initially approached her at a coffee shop and we connected on various levels: we both have traveled extensively, we both speak Spanish, and we both hate D.C. The first date would be judged as a success by most people, with kissing at around the two-hour mark and enough gas left in the tank to keep it going for far longer.
I have a bad habit when I kiss a new girl without sleeping with her (i.e. when there is still sexual tension). For the first night I think about her. I imagine how the relationship would pan out along with all the nice little moments we’ll have, until I snap out of it the next day. But with this girl, my brain wouldn’t go along with my cheesy routine. I struggled to conjure up any sort of future scene between me and her even though we matched quite well on paper. I started to think of the reason why.
If I showed up looking nice on a date with a Brazilian girl, she’d compliment my appearance. An American girl would ask if I was a “hipster,” or make some otherwise neutral comment similar to one a random elderly lady might give in a grocery store line. Do I need a girl to make a positive comment about my appearance? No.
If I was having a great time with a Colombian girl, she’d touch my thigh and say she was having a… great time. When an American is having a great time, she’ll tell a convoluted story about how her friend is dating some guy she met on the internet. It’s my responsibility to flesh out some underlying metaphor that is supposed to represent her feelings for me. Do I need a girl to make a statement telling me she’s enjoying my company? No.
If a Puerto Rican girl likes me, she’d invite me to her home to bake a dish from her country that she suspects I might like. An American girl will offer me her Chipotle leftovers or make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, untoasted. Do I need a girl to cook delicious food for me? No. I don’t need a girl to do anything but spread her legs, but these optional things hit the provider buttons of my brain, telling me that I can put more effort and investment into the girl. They tell me to take a short break from the game and enjoy at least a little bit of time with this new person.
Two days after the date with the American girl, I was out, prowling harder than ever. While she kissed me with enthusiasm and let me begin to make explorations of her petite body, the interaction had the same staleness I’ve become numb to. There was nothing about it that instilled any type of hope or feeling that my happiness would increase if I spent more time with her. The best analogy I can give you is that we were colleagues trying to hide an affair from everyone in the office. It didn’t matter that we were in the dark corner of the bar or isolated in a car, but it’s as if people she knew were watching and judging her, and she was not allowed to say pleasant things or initiate a touch that could be considered “strong interest.” And forget about displays of natural human vulnerability—that’s simply not allowed.
Maybe we were starring in a reality show and she wanted to solidify a hard-as-balls reputation so that she would get a future book deal with an idea she had been tinkering with for the past couple of years: “How To Be A Cutthroat Independent Woman In A Cutthroat World. Did I Mention Cutthroat? Cutthroat!” There wasn’t a scrap of feeling or emotion, and any opening up on my part by making positive but non-needy comments about our interaction would be severely punished with her not returning my texts or calls. Opening up to a Colombian, Brazilian, or Puerto Rican girl would be rewarded with reciprocation and a further deepening of the relationship.
The connection I get from one month with a Brazilian girl is the same connection I can get from spending one year with an American. The former starts calling me “baby” by the second date, something I started to do but actively repress for American girls. I’m two different men—one cold and unaffectionate to get some cheap fucks that tide me over until I’m rewarded for being a passionate, confident man to a grounded woman who knows how to be happy in a relationship.
I’ve dated too many American girls like the one I’m describing to you, so many “coworkers” who wanted to stay professional. (The only time that mask comes off is when I penetrate her—then she adopts a completely different persona that is best described as porn satire.) One reason I have tolerated this behavior recently is I was only interacting with them for a short time until getting to sex. And most of that time was under the influence. Prolonging the process with long-form dating reminded me of how challenging it is to accept this masculinity and lack of warmth, especially when you’ve discovered that it’s not real, that women are really not like this. Believe me when I say I’m not angry, bitter, or sad—I’m only disappointed that the women of my birth country have been destroyed through the work of intellectual man-haters. Or is it the fault of suits in power who go along with the anti-man nonsense to lock up the female vote? All I know is that winning the lottery is only marginally harder than finding a woman who can serve her man like in the not-so-distant past.
Read this profile and tell me if it was written by a man or woman:
I’m an ironically-self-proclaimed “bright young thing” in Washington DC, by way of the midwest. I currently work as a researcher/analyst/Intelligence and Reconaissance Ninja for a social media PR agency, where I anxiously await the DotCom Bust 2.0. I also frequently find myself on the fringes of the DC libertarian movement, having begun my life here as an intern for the free-market think tank mafia. My favorite pastimes include brunch, blogging, sharpening my wit, terrifying people with my charm, self-parody, and digesting the absurdities of the world around me. And in case you were curious, I’m much sweeter in real life.
If you told me this was written by a man, I’d raised my left eyebrow (the only one I can raise independently) at the “much sweeter in real life” statement, but I wouldn’t be particularly shocked. It has the hallmark style of a guy trying to be witty and smart to impress whomever might read it—with the intention of sparking interest in a girl who desires someone with a stable job. Well it’s in fact written by a woman, a term I have no choice but to use loosely these days. After taking several hours and a dozen drafts to get it just right, I guarantee you “she” congratulated herself for coming up with such a powerful! and impactful! description of who she is. While I have no doubt that sexless dweebs who didn’t notice her misspelling of reconnaissance are lining up to shower her with attention, her profile is what I think about when I want to get rid of a persistent boner, or when I want to last longer in the sack while I’m fucking a girl.
I won’t neglect to mention the flip side of the detached, professional woman because I just met her a couple weeks ago—a young lipstick feminist educated in an expensive university. She was sexy but had the bad habit of biting my lip, and not the sensual nibble that increases pleasure, but a sting that caused me to instinctively pull my head back. “Don’t bite my lip like that,” I said the first time it happened. “Oh come on,” she replied. It was my fault I didn’t enjoy the bite, even though it felt like the prick of a novacain needle before getting a cavity filled. She did it again. I’m serious don’t bite my lip. She was insulted. How dare I question her chomps of passion!
She calmed down for a couple hours, but then it came again much harder than before. You might as well have taken a binder clip meant for a stack of papers and put it on my lip to pinch off a piece of flesh. I flipped out and the interaction terminated. I’m certain she went home to complain about me to her friends: “What a loser I met tonight! When am I going to find a real man who can handle this jelly!”
During the five days it took for the little scab to slough off my lip, I wondered where I could score some of the testosterone she must be injecting so I, too, can adopt a take-no-prisoners attitude that she was taught will get her what she wants out of life. In reality the testosterone is not injected directly into her skin—it’s absorbed by her brain through the culture, which is rewarding young girls when they display go-getting aggressiveness that men used to possess. At the same time it punishes the easy-going, compliant qualities that are necessary to maintain fulfilling relationships and sane households. Even basic human traits like charm and flirtatiousness are like abstract paintings in America, nebulous constructs that no one wants to figure out or work on.
I thought back to the Colombian girl who was too meloso (affectionate) after just a couple weeks of dating. Not used to this behavior, I sternly told her to tone it down. I still remember her response—it was the same as a newborn kitten adjusting to earthly light: scared and confused. What a heartless monster she must’ve saw me as! Thing is I was a monster. They say acceptance is the first step, and with each foreign woman I date, I come closer to being a man that I would’ve never been had I not peeked around the corner into the “bad” neighborhood that all the cool kids seem to be sneaking out of.
Grab a random man off an American street. Take away the penis, broad shoulders, and body hair. Add breasts, a crotch hole stingy with its lubrication, and a tendency for inane chatter that is insignificant to all forms of life two minutes after it’s uttered. You have an American woman. I’m not attempting to be funny: I sincerely cannot feel the difference between the men and women of this country once you take away the clothing and hair. Men look and act like fags while women act like men of yesterday, all to make a lot of money in an office park that contains a Starbucks. If you draw a venn diagram of both genders the circles might as well completely overlap. My expectations with women here are so low that going out with one is like spending time with my 7-year-old brother: as long as she doesn’t piss her pants and embarrass me in public, the date was a great success.
The man who doesn’t mind American women is cold and disconnected himself, hopelessly confused about his masculinity and his place in the world. I’d be an easy cheap shot for me to say “they deserve each other,” but the truth is no one else wants them. If a Brazilian man couldn’t fuck an American girl, he wouldn’t spend a minute with her on a beach in Rio while educating her about his culture. If a Russian girl couldn’t get a greencard from an American man, she’d rather put up with the alcoholic trolls dying off like flies in her own country than swallow her pride and post a dating profile on the internet.
An American man mating with his own kind reminds of when I saw two stray dogs having sex on a South American beach. The male had a little bicycle tire stuck around his neck which was attached to a long rope that trailed behind him (put there by some teenager I imagine), while the female was a nasty little thing infested with boils that finally let the male mount her next to a heap of trash. Locals and tourists were laughing at the scene, rushing to grab their cameras to take pictures. The dogs finished their business oblivious to the mocking.
One day later and the tire and rope was still attached to the male. I’m certain he died with it. The American man is not as helpless—he is free to remove the tire and rope, but decades of brainwashing have led him to believe that a fucking tire around his neck is the way things should be and that there is no alternative. Like the feral dog, he will fade into oblivion unaware that people are laughing at him when he copulates with the man-beast he calls a woman, or worse, a wife.
While traveling I rather say I’m a dirty Muslim Turk than an American. Seeing drunk douche bag Australians pull over my American counterparts is all the proof I need that the people from my country turn off others. Our culture of money and flash is universally admired, but the ignorant, fat, and lost populace that make up 99% of this country is wholly revolting to those who accept what it means to be human. The less American women I date and the more steps I take back from what it means to be American, the more I feel like a real person.Tweet Follow @rooshv
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I’ve been reading your blog for well over two years. I enjoy your style and writing, etc. But after reading this post, I think its time you moved permanently. Like my Dad told me a long time ago, “Its fine to complain once. But I don’t want to hear you complain twice if you are prepared to take action to eliminate your problem.”
Don’t fight it. Move on and self actualize.
It’s fucked up, but the things you write about American women are true. Both my parents are foreign, and growing up I never really felt ‘American’. I’ve had different views and expected women to be different because of my observations of my female relatives growing up. They were affectionate, and nice. Then I grow up in this society and find that I have to change who I am and how I act to fuck these girls, who inevitably I find I never want to date anyways.
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“Its fine to complain once. But I don’t want to hear you complain twice if you aren’t prepared to take action to eliminate your problem.”
Yea the only problem with westerners traveling the world is we gonna bring the shit with us.
Funny how history repeats.
Jerusalem as an Adulterous Wife
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “Son of man, confront Jerusalem with her detestable practices 3 and say, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says to Jerusalem: Your ancestry and birth were in the land of the Canaanites; your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite. 4 On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to make you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths. 5 No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you. Rather, you were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised.
6 “‘Then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in your blood I said to you, “Live!”[a] 7 I made you grow like a plant of the field. You grew and developed and entered puberty. Your breasts had formed and your hair had grown, yet you were stark naked.
8 “‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your naked body. I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Sovereign LORD, and you became mine.
9 “‘I bathed you with water and washed the blood from you and put ointments on you. 10 I clothed you with an embroidered dress and put sandals of fine leather on you. I dressed you in fine linen and covered you with costly garments. 11 I adorned you with jewelry: I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around your neck, 12 and I put a ring on your nose, earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. 13 So you were adorned with gold and silver; your clothes were of fine linen and costly fabric and embroidered cloth. Your food was honey, olive oil and the finest flour. You became very beautiful and rose to be a queen. 14 And your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty, because the splendor I had given you made your beauty perfect, declares the Sovereign LORD.
15 “‘But you trusted in your beauty and used your fame to become a prostitute. You lavished your favors on anyone who passed by and your beauty became his. 16 You took some of your garments to make gaudy high places, where you carried on your prostitution. You went to him, and he possessed your beauty.[b] 17 You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them. 18 And you took your embroidered clothes to put on them, and you offered my oil and incense before them. 19 Also the food I provided for you—the flour, olive oil and honey I gave you to eat—you offered as fragrant incense before them. That is what happened, declares the Sovereign LORD.
20 “‘And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough? 21 You slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols. 22 In all your detestable practices and your prostitution you did not remember the days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, kicking about in your blood.
23 “‘Woe! Woe to you, declares the Sovereign LORD. In addition to all your other wickedness, 24 you built a mound for yourself and made a lofty shrine in every public square. 25 At every street corner you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty, spreading your legs with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passed by. 26 You engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your neighbors with large genitals, and aroused my anger with your increasing promiscuity. 27 So I stretched out my hand against you and reduced your territory; I gave you over to the greed of your enemies, the daughters of the Philistines, who were shocked by your lewd conduct. 28 You engaged in prostitution with the Assyrians too, because you were insatiable; and even after that, you still were not satisfied. 29 Then you increased your promiscuity to include Babylonia,[c] a land of merchants, but even with this you were not satisfied.
30 “‘I am filled with fury against you,[d] declares the Sovereign LORD, when you do all these things, acting like a brazen prostitute! 31 When you built your mounds at every street corner and made your lofty shrines in every public square, you were unlike a prostitute, because you scorned payment.
32 “‘You adulterous wife! You prefer strangers to your own husband! 33 All prostitutes receive gifts, but you give gifts to all your lovers, bribing them to come to you from everywhere for your illicit favors. 34 So in your prostitution you are the opposite of others; no one runs after you for your favors. You are the very opposite, for you give payment and none is given to you.
35 “‘Therefore, you prostitute, hear the word of the LORD! 36 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your lust and exposed your naked body in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children’s blood, 37 therefore I am going to gather all your lovers, with whom you found pleasure, those you loved as well as those you hated. I will gather them against you from all around and will strip you in front of them, and they will see you stark naked. 38 I will sentence you to the punishment of women who commit adultery and who shed blood; I will bring on you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger. 39 Then I will deliver you into the hands of your lovers, and they will tear down your mounds and destroy your lofty shrines. They will strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry and leave you stark naked. 40 They will bring a mob against you, who will stone you and hack you to pieces with their swords. 41 They will burn down your houses and inflict punishment on you in the sight of many women. I will put a stop to your prostitution, and you will no longer pay your lovers. 42 Then my wrath against you will subside and my jealous anger will turn away from you; I will be calm and no longer angry.
43 “‘Because you did not remember the days of your youth but enraged me with all these things, I will surely bring down on your head what you have done, declares the Sovereign LORD. Did you not add lewdness to all your other detestable practices?
44 “‘Everyone who quotes proverbs will quote this proverb about you: “Like mother, like daughter.” 45 You are a true daughter of your mother, who despised her husband and her children; and you are a true sister of your sisters, who despised their husbands and their children. Your mother was a Hittite and your father an Amorite. 46 Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom. 47 You not only followed their ways and copied their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they. 48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. 51 Samaria did not commit half the sins you did. You have done more detestable things than they, and have made your sisters seem righteous by all these things you have done. 52 Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished some justification for your sisters. Because your sins were more vile than theirs, they appear more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.
53 “‘However, I will restore the fortunes of Sodom and her daughters and of Samaria and her daughters, and your fortunes along with them, 54 so that you may bear your disgrace and be ashamed of all you have done in giving them comfort. 55 And your sisters, Sodom with her daughters and Samaria with her daughters, will return to what they were before; and you and your daughters will return to what you were before. 56 You would not even mention your sister Sodom in the day of your pride, 57 before your wickedness was uncovered. Even so, you are now scorned by the daughters of Edom[e] and all her neighbors and the daughters of the Philistines—all those around you who despise you. 58 You will bear the consequences of your lewdness and your detestable practices, declares the LORD.
59 “‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will deal with you as you deserve, because you have despised my oath by breaking the covenant. 60 Yet I will remember the covenant I made with you in the days of your youth, and I will establish an everlasting covenant with you. 61 Then you will remember your ways and be ashamed when you receive your sisters, both those who are older than you and those who are younger. I will give them to you as daughters, but not on the basis of my covenant with you. 62 So I will establish my covenant with you, and you will know that I am the LORD. 63 Then, when I make atonement for you for all you have done, you will remember and be ashamed and never again open your mouth because of your humiliation, declares the Sovereign LORD.’”
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the best girl I ever dated took nearly a year to cook something for me at my place. it seemed like a constant struggle to get her to do it. and when she finally did it, the food sucked. terrible. suddenly my memories of her aren’t as fond…
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Long winded much? That read like a thirty page New Yorker article, just not professionally writter.
You finally go out on a date with a girl you met, because you got tired of banging some chubby 5 who puts out but not much else.
Doesn’t sound like you are used to quality American women.
So, you go on the date, and she doesn’t fawn over you and help assuage your insecurities.
You kiss her, maybe she was just bored or decided she didn’t like you.
Instead of just manning up and realizing shiat happens, you read way too much into the situation, and slip into your classic and tiresome routine of blaming everything on the United States.
I love this post. Probably because it is very complimentary to South Americans…
I have an addition to your analogy on the American woman. This time, the American (or Anglo man). You take a man who is cold, unaffectionate, un-chivalrous, unromantic, and stoic and you introduce him to a deeply loving very affectionate and giving girl and you will usually end up with an very affectionate and caring man. I think this is due to the fact (i’m speaking from anecdotes I’ve heard from men) that some men don’t really know how to handle women in a highly litigious, feminized, PC society such as the USA. When we were first dating I asked my husband why he wouldn’t hold the door open for me, and he said that women in his country would berate him if he tried to do that- as if the couldn’t do it themselves. He also told me he felt like he was oppressing me when i made him dinner. Haha! Those days are long gone.
This is the best advice I can give women. If there is anything such as ‘girl game’ it is to be very sweet, feminine, and loving.
Clearly Genesis is an American woman who wants guys to “man up” and accept their shitty behavior on a daily basis. No good deed goes unpunished with American women. Pump and dump has become the status quo.
Yeah it’s pretty sad.
Good article, but you are writing the same shit that Mark Ames wrote ten years ago. See eXile back issues from that era.
Any man who has experienced foreign women will feel like this.
I made a Chinese girl cry a few days ago, and unlike every single American girl, I actually felt bad for her. Why? Because her previous actions had all pushed my provider buttons. Why don’t American women elicit my sympathy when they cry? Because they act like men, and if a man cried over the same stupid shit women cry over, I would feel revolted by him.
By giving up their femininity, American women have given up everything that makes men want to care for them.
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Foreign women are simply superior to American women.
It is not like you see tons of rich Chinese, Brazilian, Colombian and Russian cats coming to America to land an American girl, do you?
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Whenever I hear “man up” I feel the need to ejaculate on that persons face. Nice shamming language Genesis.
It’s the “grass is greener on the other side” mentality; however, even in my College library do I see the trends noted countless times on this blog.
I watch football and can’t help to notice that I’m practically unable to see physical differences between the offensive line and offensive American women. The Nazi Fat Ladies of America is the new NFL.
One of things I’m not looking forward to when I return to the U.S. is the women. When I go on Facebook it is a great reminder of how stupid and masculinized most of them are.
This is completely ridiculous and intellectually dishonest.
The people posting here need to get a hold on their emotions, and try to see some objective facts.
There are over 150 million women in the United States.
Even if only 50 million of those are 18-35, and taking out another 50% for those who are married or obese, that still leaves 25 million.
If you can’t find a woman to your liking here, either you are not looking in the right places, or the problem is you.
“classy and elegant with superb body posture developed from years playing the piano”
Posture is so important, for both men and women. That is one thing it seems that 90 percent of the population has lost.
I remember starting a job in New York several years ago, and there were a variety of cute girls. One girl caught my eye. She didn’t have the prettiest face or the nicest ass. But she had excellent posture. It just looked so dainty and ladylike. I noticed it immediately.
She was Swedish.
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Perhaps part of the problem is that when an American man travels abroad, he gets a bump in his status so women treat him differently than back home. Also, women are seeing him as a potential fling as opposed to a potential long-term partner.
I would guess that Roosh does a lot better with women who see him as a potential fling.
I was cold until I dated a Bzln girl. I suddenly learned to love affection. It was like an awakening of my human spirit.
It is our duty to raise the standards and say “not good ’nuff” when some Fem nazi makes the relationship feel like you are talking to an HR person.
Men and women have been hoodwinked, bamboozled and conned into believing in “equality.” Men and women are different and differences should be embraced and respected.
Great post Roosh. So true, and one of my favorite ones since I’ve been following your blog. I echo your sentiments.
Great Post Roosh! Thought Provoking and oh so True.
Wow, lots of negativity toward this post. It’s sad, actually.
I’ve been subscribed to this blog for about six months, and this is the best thing I’ve read on it. It’s honest and heartfelt. I think people who are saying that he’s complaining are completely missing the point. This post was written by someone who is keenly aware of his own flaws, someone who can offer a unique perspective on life, and someone who isn’t just complaining–some of the insights in this post suggest that he has meditated on these topics for sometime. Others would be wise to take note.
No doubt I run into the same American ball busters you describe. But that is, at most, half of the attractive American women I meet in Houston. DC can’t be that much different. Have you considered you are attracting this type?
” I donâ��t need a girl to do anything but spread her legs, but these optional things hit the provider buttons of my brain, telling me that I can put more effort and investment into the girl. ”
An American girl will take a load to the face long before she cooks you a dinner or pays you a real compliment. This is women’s liberation.
Your best post ever
you came hard with it today.
Some good little nuggets to chew on.
Great post, Roosh. I’m a gay American guy living in Latin America. I’m a regular reader, because I get a lot out of studying hetero pickup. Many (but not all) of the same principles apply.
The gay guys here are tender and “entregado” (they don’t hold back). I’m not sure I could go back to American guys.
Wow. I barely recognize the landscape of “American women” you are talking about. I am no master of game. In fact, I recognize in my past self many “beta” mistakes. However, I have never had a relationship with a woman who is at all like you describe. I’ve MET cold bitches like this, but I have never pursued them. I find them very easy to avoid.
The (mostly big-city American) women I have actually gone to bed with and developed relationships with have mostly been warm, soft, feminine, vulnerable, giving women. The “hardest” woman I’ve ever dated nonetheless LOVED to cook for me — she asked to do it all the time. Most women I’ve dated have been smart and ambitious (college professor, science grad student, architect, several media professionals) and none had any trouble falling in love like a schoolgirl and showing vulnerability. And certainly none ever turned off her real self and behaved like a disconnected porn actress in bed. (I’ve had a couple drunken one-night stands like this, but it’s never been a chronic problem I’ve run into.)
Does achieving the highest level of game cause a man to perceive the world this way? Or does game shut off your emotions, so that’s what you get in return? Or is it just D.C.?
Anyway, I feel for you. The world of women you describe is horrifying and frightening. But I just don’t recognize it, even as I am surrounded by American women.
What did you mean with the comment at the end about australian douchebags pulling over your American counterparts??
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Some grea pov’s here Roosh. I do completely agree that Western Women (unfortunately Western Euro women as well) are more or less victims. I do not hold it against them, its not even their fault. Much like the one time rough and tumble regular whjo after much indoctrination,crosses his legs like a bitch, goes to poetry slams, talks more about his feelings etc. not because he really likes this stuff, but more or less because MTV, GQ and some lefty university told him its how a man should be.
I mean look at us..I’ve said before and don’t mind reminding all of the reaers, that we in USA buy our daughters baseball gloves and fucking Karate lessons!! As soon as you cross into Mexico the girls are wrapped in pink from head to toe, cherished like doll babies, taught to dance classic and cultural dances, knit and care for children (preporation for bieng a wife and mother) and ultimately remain feminine, caring and all in all better long term dating and or wife material.
Our daughters here are confused. It is in our nature to be only what we are by nuatural law, but when you are taught from day one that you need to be the “toughest little chick” on the block you are just fucked. The social dynamic between men and women is ruined at that point. People can kick and scream about equality and “rights” but you cannot fool mother nature.
Hey, man. You say a lot of things (which you have said before in 1000 different ways) about women, but seem unwilling to do anything about it.
I don’t just mean moving to a place with different social customs, although that is a solution. Maybe you could take responsibility for the interactions you have with women (you’re 50% of them!) and see if you can give these girls the opportunity to be sexy, and by that I don’t just mean telling cool stories, being un-needy and then going for the bang at the end of the night.
I hope it doesn’t sound new-agey that the energy you’re putting into your interactions tends to be mirrored back at you, and I get the strong impression that your time with women is methodical, mechanical and totally unemotional. Maybe, just maybe, you need to change your Game rather than change ‘American Women’.
A little long, but very awesome post.
For all those saying Roosh is taking the easy way out or blaming the US, go travel somewhere. Seriously once you live abroad, you’re changed for life.
I think part of the reason many of these problems exist is because of the number of betas out there. If a girl compliments a guy or does something for him, he falls head over heals in love and bows down to her. Guys in other countries definitely don’t have this reaction.
I think all of these issues are exacerbated by the fact that you’re in DC. I live in a big city too and definitely see this sad reality, but I imagine it’s worse in some regions of the US than others. I haven’t spent much time in the South but I hear the women are a little more traditional.
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You know…even though I agree with pretty much all of what you say, I feel like some guys are getting away from our “hands on” approach to problems in our household. How many of us know how to change our own oil in our car? Or build something with our hands? (that actually requires sawing and measuring, not something that just requires connecting pieces together) When i was growing up, my father taught me how to make myself useful by working with my hands.
So it’s one thing for all of us guys to complain about women not being able to cook, for example, but I know for a fact that a lot of us have gotten soft in that respect. We expect everything to be built or prepackaged, or have simple to follow instructions included. When’s the last time any of you set foot into a Home Depot? Honestly.
Lots of our food comes prepackaged or has easy to follow instructions as well. Now this doesn’t completely excuse women from acting the way they do, because its clear that refusing to even learn how to fry a goddamn egg isn’t their only problem, but it’s just a suggestion that maybe being a little more…manly and hands on will encourage some women to warm up to some of their responsibilities as well. We’re ALL getting fucking lazy, men and women alike.
Dating in DC is cold and calculating possibly in part due to the rapid turnover of young professionals. It’s important for them to maintain an “image” and as a social climber/aspiring professional instead of just cutting loose and not giving a $hit. DC is warped more than most places, there’s still traditional values and hope in the rural and small towns of America with charm and social niceties, and a sense of community vice the alienation experienced within the beltway. Dating can actually be more rewarding when it’s not a job interview – that’s why I love it when people in DC bear quizzical expressions when I ask what they do for fun outside of work… and if they ask me what I do, I answer, “whatever the fuck I feel like.”
It also has to do with the homogenization of the modern workforce- the knowledge based economy that is conductive to rampant androgyny. There’s few traditional masculine and vica versa feminine roles in the workplace in the beltway bubble.
This is a post that only those who have been with foreign women will “get.”
I’d like to say that American men at least live in a fool’s paradise. Yet the American male finds himself in one lame relationship after another. Once you meet a Brazilian at the door to pick her up for her date, and see a woman who smells like tropical fruit, has worn glitter on her cleavage, and is wearing a dress with knee-high boots….
The biggest difference between foreign and American girls is noticed in bed. What’s it like to be with a woman who, more than anything, wants to please her man? Most Americans have never had that experience. (And to the haters: Being with a woman who *wants* to please me makes me *want* to please her. It’s actually in a woman’s self-interest to please her man.)
The Americna male is not living in a fool’s paradise. He’s a fool, living in hell.
It takes two to tango. As evidenced in that I agree with #37. If you don’t know how to change your own oil or take care of things around the house, don’t expect a woman to assume some roles you would prefer she take up. I was shocked to find that I couldn’t buy motor oil in the Targets around here. Additionally, I also agree with #39, Brazilians do have an aura… they are genuinely happy to see you and know how to dress sexy. But it takes being a man yourself to attract that kind of woman.
roosh! must be DC.here in austin, the american women are very friendly, very feminine. I’m Indian and American women are such sweethearts. Sure, Feminism has mucekd with their head, but they are still superior to women from many nationaolities including…ahem! Latin women. Maybe it’s that Latin women are very nice to White boys. They are mean as hell to the Brown Boys. May American women be happy. They are wonderful. As you once said, “An american girlw ill sleep with a homeless bum if he makes her laugh”. No other woman would do that. Yet, Y’all call them materialistic. Come off it.
(Being with a woman who *wants* to please me makes me *want* to please her. It’s actually in a woman’s self-interest to please her man.)
Amen. And not just in bed either.
Roosh, when are you going to reveal where you are heading in January?
Enough with the suspense.
I’ve noticed something along these lines — the woman may be feminine, warm, sweet, etc, and showing lots of appreciation for me, soon after meeting her, but if I seem open to her, if I don’t seem like I’m cold, hard-hearted, elusive or armored, she quickly seems to assume I’m a total softie and completely available to her, and she drops me like a rock.
It seems these women cannot perceive that there can be a good middle zone between the extremes in men. No. Either you’re a cold grinning bastard James Bond type, or you’re a crotchless teddy bear wuss, hoping to be her doormat.
She wants me only if I hide about half of my personality from her. This really limits how much I can enjoy her.
It would be like a sales clerk thinking anyone casually browsing merchandise must be eager to buy it at any price. Seems like stupidity, but it must be something else. What?
Many great comments here today too — high quality insights (such as Bob @ 31, Evan @ 34, and Fireworks56 @ 38, and others).
Seeing some amateur critics say today’s post is “too long” is funny.
I didn’t know there was a standard or consensus on the proper length of a daily blog post.
Where is the rule book posted?
Complaining about the length of a free offering sounds like demanding that the world cater to your need for everything to be quick & brief.
So are you willing to marry that woman who slept with a homeless bum because he made her laugh?
I think you’re setting yourself up for more disappointment. For all the nice things you say about Brazilian women you don’t seem to have had any success in keeping an ltr going with them than those awful American women.
By all means get out of the US (I did and have no plans on returning long term), but you can’t expect to get more than you give in a relationship.
You’ve honed and developed your skills in getting one night stands (that don’t seem to offer any emotional fulfillment for you) and in short term flings (where you’ve hit the law of diminishing returns the 100th fling is a lot less engaging than the first 3 or 4). A lot of guys never get tired of one night stands but you’re apparently not one of those. You also want something more from women but can’t yet articulate it. You won’t make an ltr work until you can.
I think you need to travel some more but don’t be surprised or disappointed when new countries start to become just as boring as the latest one night stand. That’s when you pick a country that works for you (not necessarily the one you like best, but one where you can live and support yourself, be reasonably happy nd try to keep an ltr going).
Roosh… life is too short to be doing shit you hate. To surround yourself with people you hate. Go abroad and enjoy your life while it lasts.
Very good post, hit close to home. I have a question, though, Roosh–have you ever tried dating girls who live in northern virginia? Not arlington, which is just DC for social-climbing status seekers who also can’t spend more than $1000/month on rent–i’m talking fairfax, reston. or bethesda or rockville?
In my first year and change in DC, I’ve gone on about 25 dates. the sample of girls have been split fairly evenly between DC girls and girls who lived in the DMV suburbs. I’ve also noticed a definite split personality-wise–one group tends to be friendlier, more feminine and laidback. The other is more calculating, plays more “games” and, uh, are more likely to be lawyers. I’ll give you a flying guess which is which.
yikes, you hit the nail dead on the head…
Good job pointing out that American men are also usually cold, dumb, and generally an embarrassment.
It’s like when I speak Spanish I can be extremely romantic and sweet, but I can’t imagine the same words coming out of my mouth in English… when you said dating here is like being with a co-worker or reality show contestant, DEAD ON.
I would look for a different culprit then feminism though… how about a culture based on conspicuous consumption, superficial status, in a word capitalism.
People outside the US who ask me about US current events are so confused… “Why are all these people protesting in Washington… oh, because of health care, so they want to have a normal health care system now? Oh… they’re protesting because they DON’T want everyone to have health insurance… hmmm…”
Meanwhile people on the “other side” (yeah right) hold their protest, not in favor of anything, but just to make funny of how “silly” the “other side” looks because they care too much about things.
There are a few very genuine and warm people here but their nature is being tested and they’re getting harder and harder to find.
ps @Jake (#13)
Mark Ames (and his co-writer Matt Taibi) have really interesting things to say about the world and US culture in particular.
Ames is still publishing Exiled Online and Taibi helped start the Buffalo Beast (very funny) but has since become freelance I think, doing some good Rolling Stone investigative pieces.
Roosh if you’re going to Russia or Eastern Europe you should immerse yourself in at least the archives of the old Exile.
All you do is bitch, bitch, bitch. You are the biggest crybaby on the internet.
Roosh’s game is really awesome, and reading Bang (and applying it, especially the new shit on texting) has really helped me.
However, this blog entry seems a bit redundant. I dont prefer American girls either, but I’m here in this country and I need to bang chicks, so what else is there to do.
On another note, DC is a shitty place. Its white people making moves and black people struggling (other htan the president).
Thank god I live in Chicago.
Great post, lots of insightful observations. You should do more long articles, I like the new yorker style in this one. keep up the good work.
Have you ever dated Canadian girls or been to Canada?
That’s only partially accurate.
There is some serious group think going on here.
Roosh, I am a woman who casually reads the site without leaving comment. This post really touched me because after a year and a half of living in the United States, I feel myself a social outcast with the girls here. They are so strange, always yelling and being physically aggressive in a way that in my country they are socially unaccepted. They say hurtful things that have made me cry and later say it is a joke??? One even slapped me and then said ‘I am kidding hahaha’! It is impossible to avoid them and the aggressiveness has given me frustration. It is unbelievable this behavior is acceptable here. I isolate myself as much as possible from them, in fear of their influence. I would die from shame if these uneducated creatures were my children.
You like dumb, uneducated girls over “smart” educated American girls.
Not sure I completely disagree! I think I’d prefer a girl with an 80 IQ who worships me and his an 8 over a girl with a 130 IQ who is a 5 too.
Anyway, I still think the REAL problem is the girls are not very attractive in DC. That plus the fact that in other countries, you are probably a bigger deal than you are here (and so get better women).
Roosh – You just spelt out what I’ve been feeling for years but have never been able to formulate the full idea. Well done. Hard facts from where I’m standing.
“You like dumb, uneducated girls over “smart” educated American girls. Not sure I completely disagree!”
I went through the same epiphany. I love smart girls, but god damn, they are ball busters.
Now I want to find a pretty, simple girl. The only thing that should be coming out of her mouth is my overflowing jizz.
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The two girls I used as examples in this post weren’t from D.C. I don’t remember the last time I dated a D.C. native.
Thinking the problem is only here would be wishful thinking.
It’s funny…just recently I had an ongoing email conversation with a woman in my circle of friends. It ended up revolving around women cooking for their boyfriends. Originally, it simply was about how women show affection or make a personalized effort to show a man they care about him. She simply wouldn’t leave the cooking issue alone. She felt that a woman shouldn’t cook for a man until she secures some form of commitment that he is in fact HER MAN. She felt a man would simply drop in to eat, fuck, then leave, and pointed to girlfriends that had this happen to them. In many cultures, cooking for someone is a way of making you welcome in their home. On a dating level, it means a woman wants to show you what kind of woman she is, that show you that she is in fact interested in you. She refused to buy this – she felt it was simply about a man taking advantage. There a a number of women in my social circle that are attractive, professional, and none of them have been in a relationship, let alone been on anything that would be considered a date in YEARS. Most women in America are of the mindset that a man must impress THEM. He must jump through any number of hoops and make the majority of effort to prove his worth, with them in the position of accepting or rejecting. Only after proven worthy will they then expend any effort on his behalf, other than fucking him occasionally (and probably not sucking dick). The belief is that ALL men want is sex, but in reality I think many women feel that sex is all they truly have to offer a man, and once they give it up they’ve got nothing left to keep him around. That’s their fault, not ours as men. I’ve had any number of women friends, in Europe and South America, that want me to visit and cook for me. Women that I either have not been intimate with and may never be. But they think enough of me that they want me in their homes and want to show me affection by cooking for me. But a woman that will let me fuck her WON’T do that? FUCK YOU BITCH.
Part of reason why women in American society have become what they’ve become is they are raised to COMPETE with men. Everything has become a challenge to masculinity, to prove they can do anything a man can. Personal relationships become a battle of wills, instead of simply enjoying each other’s company. Women are fine with certain traditional roles when they entail effort on the part of men. Someone did make a good point though…men don’t build things or work with their hands as much, but we’re also victims of the society we’ve created. Mothers don’t teach girls how to cook, but men don’t teach their sons certain things they used to also. Just the same, men are still raised to go to work so he can pay for things when he’s entertaining a woman. She’d rather you BUY her something than build it. When he marries, sure, they’ll have two incomes. Unless she decides she doesn’t want to work anymore, or at least for a while, to stay home with children. Men generally don’t have that option. Many women are HAPPY not to work if a man makes enough that she doesn’t have to.
Well put Timothy!
With all the talk of alphas and how they are rated by attracting the hottest of women (there is a grain of truth in it). some famous “alphas” i.e. celebrities, musicians, politicians who have had hot model/porn like ex-gf many of them settled with cute but normal women…some of them even with kids! some of them older!
ex : matt damon and his wife, ashton kutcher.
now the question if these men are faithful to their wife aside ( I would say hardly as these men are the top of the food chain). these women KNEW how to keep a man happy, how to stroke his ego and show affection and that by being competitive with him and challenging his manhood constantly when all he wants to rest after a tough day is a lose-lose situation.
these women made these men come back at home to their bed. some women are contend if a guy sleeps from time to time on the side (a snack) as long as he goes back home. there are lots of known courtesans in history who were the top mistresses of kinds as they knew how to treat an alpha male and keep him coming back.
Boy I am glad I am in the Philippines!
“and she was not allowed to say pleasant things or initiate a touch that could be considered “strong interest.” And forget about displays of natural human vulnerability—that’s simply not allowed.”
Can’t you also say that about a lot of guys who read pick-up books?
‘Even basic human traits like charm and flirtatiousness are like abstract paintings in America, nebulous constructs that no one wants to figure out or work on..’
But let’s face it Roosh, are you really interested in these types of girls? No.
Most people’s social- palette is limited to a Mona Lisa-esque ideal, not many people (Americans in this case) can think outside the frame.
‘When an American is having a great time, she’ll tell a convoluted story about how her friend is dating some guy she met on the internet. It’s my responsibility to flesh out some underlying metaphor that is supposed to represent her feelings for me.’
Spot on, Australian girls are the same. The funny thing is these girls will tell you they are great communicators. Most of these girls probably work in Sales/PR or related field. They mistake thier professional corporate speak and banal chit chat as communication. Clinical communication maybe?
But again Roosh, are you really interested in these girls past shagging them? No.
Fucking aside, you sound like you are ready for a more serious relationship after your travels. Ironically probably why you left the States in the first place. And yet you still can’t find what you’re looking for.
By the way, South American women alone aren’t going to solve your problem. They are a different kind of problem!
It sounds like I will be visiting South American in the foreseeable future.
Off-topic, but what is the evolutionary purpose of oneitis? It seems kinda pointless to obsess over a woman you’ve never touched let alone had sex with. It certainly does not engender reciprocal feelings in the girl. The only thing I can think of is that it might motivate a man to rape or bride-kidnap the girl.
@TIMOTHY said: “Part of reason why women in American society have become what theyâ��ve become is they are raised to COMPETE with men. Everything has become a challenge to masculinity, to prove they can do anything a man can. Personal relationships become a battle of wills, instead of simply enjoying each otherâ��s company.”
Yes! That is so true! One of the worst things feminism has done to women is to discredit everything that is inherently feminine (cooking, sewing, nurturing, keeping house, raising children) and exalt everything that is inherently masculine (earning money, being strong, mechanics, sports).
I find it ironic that these ladies that are so “rah rah women” hate everything THAT IS FEMALE ORIENTED and just want us to act like men.
I guess feminists must think dudes are so much better than women, that they want to turn us into them…
I echo the sentiment that you obviously need to move. You have to realize that you live in one of the most cold and ladder-climbing city in the country.
Your points about American women all have validity, but the sweeping generalizations help nobody, including yourself. I don’t particularly prefer American women to many types of foreign women, but I’ve managed to find plenty with some sense of femininity still left intact back home. They’re harder to find, and sometimes you have to put more effort in, but it’s there. Sounds like you may not be attracting the right types or not eliciting it.
Regardless, whether it’s personality differences, or cultural differences, or a genuine malaise of gender roles that’s at the core of the problem (my guess is it’s some combination of all three), it’s obvious it’s time for you to move on.
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I also want to say for some of the know it all’s on both sides of the coin…there is no black and white in this case and of course Roosh knows (as does anyone that has gone abroad) that there are also horrible women in ALL countries, however the % of finding a really bitchy, rude, crass woman in other cultures (outside of Canada, UK, USA and some other parts of Western Europe) is simply less.
Also, I personally still meet some very nice, classy and kind American girls. But, as most of you already know, most of them are from small towns or have been raised in a culturally different area, outside of DC, LA, NYC, Miama. It seems big city American girls for the most part feel priveledged and out of touch with reality and to be fair the same goes for big city trendy metro dudes that couldn’t even change a car tire, stand up for themselves or some of the other basic traits a man should have.
Also, lastly but no less important, is I’ve noticed some of the repeat comments suggesting Roosh or others like him should just “simply move” if they don’t like the culture of dating and sexual dynamics in the USA. Well, that is one way to look at it I guess, however that is also to suggest that running is the best way to avoid problems. No, a guy like Roosh or myself or various other posters, is truly bothered by this horribly unnatural mating dynamic we see before us in our country. I am personally bothered, because this is/was a great nation with nowhere to go but up, but one of the many indicators of decline is loss of cultural dominance, loss of gender roles, loss of pride, self worth and more over an acceptance of things like feminization of an entire male culture that is currently bieng shoved down our throats by the media, learning institutions, even the criminal justice system.
So, what better reason to write about it and raise awareness? Some of your fools act like Roosh is writing this as a simple venting of his emotions (maybe this is partially true) however I feel like since he is a blogger, a dating coach, a gamer, it is important he write this type of thing to open the eyes of other men who also notice the dating market here in good ole USA gone awry. He is a mouth peice for a school of thought, not just a whiney bitch who wants to vent about hating American chicks.
PS – Though I must admit Roosh, your (42 things I hate about American girls) is a little skewed and Biased. I mean for instance calling out American chicks for smoking when probably 75% of the girls in other more exotic locations smoke, is petty just for one example.
“Boy I am glad I am in the Philippines!”
I guess, if you are into Filipinas.
I have found most to be kinda ugly, with about 1 in 50 being super hot.
No in between.
Have you noticed that?
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But you neglect to mention one thing: the utter unattractiveness of American women is a characteristic shared by women of ALL ANGLOSPHERE COUNTRIES.
Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom, the USA. All utter disgraces when it comes to its “women.”
You and I are in the same boat it appears: on our way to abandoning the US completely.
The key to our freedom, of course, lies in a steady income via “telecommute.”
This is the holy grail to escape the prison with golden bars they call America.
I think this is the reason why many modern women chase thugs and bad boys moreso than ever…
When women have become men, only the most dominant and aggressive of men will make a woman……feel like a woman
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I relocated to Eastern Europe for work many years ago. Once or twice year I visit my friends and family back in Canada, and it’s an eye-opener. It’s genuinely sad what’s become of most North American women.
This was probably Roosh’s best post. He nails it.
Roosh, serious question: why are you buying into Roissy’s right-wing/bullshit brand of politics?
Roissy can rant all he wants about “the decline of society” and “the Mexicans,” but you are probably not even going to be living in the USA long-term.
Why do you care?
Don’t become Roissy: a bitter middle-aged man who sits on his porch are rants and raves about “society.”
I haven’t commented on your blog in a long while but, as a Latin woman (and even if I come from a country whose girls you kind of hate) I was thinking that, up to a certain extent, I always feel like an outsider when surrounded by American women, which is why comment No. 56 (a foreign girl who describes feeling like a social outcast), totally rang a bell.
I have American friends who are girls, but they do behave like “alpha males”, not just in their relationships with guys. I just never get to feel as comfortable with them as I do with women from other nationalities. These girls are so ambitious, loud, always wanting to be the center of attention, not really considerate of other people´s feelings, kind of selfish, egotistical… after years of living in DC, I even started to doubt myself and feel that I was the one who was acting inadequately. Then I moved, and now see things from another perspective. Don´t get me wrong, I love my friends, but, as another Latin girl put it the other day, they are these sort of “peacocks”.
So I guess I understand how you feel, as a man. Yet American men are so used to this type of girl that whenever I showed a bit of emotion early in the dating process, they did not know how to react, they pulled back… I always thought that they like the way American women are, or at least are used to it and only know how to behave in response to it. I also think that American men (at least in DC) expect and value in a woman what these America women are. It´s all about what you have achieved, what you do for a living, etc.. That seems to weigh more than if you are sweet, affectionate, etc… cause if you are, the is likely to run away before even giving you a chance (and, even if I do not think I´m bad looking or stupid, the disappearing act has been a recurring thing with DC men)
It may be the case that there are “nice” girls in the west, but the probability of finding one is infinitesimally low.
How much diarrhea does one man have to wade through before regular old shit starts to smell like peaches and cream?
It’s absolutely repugnant when you stop and think about the personalities of the women the majority of us have been with. Disagreeable, shrill, entitled and dumb, etc, etc. How else can western women be described? Oh ya, whores. Can’t forget that.
How does any sane man contemplate marrying a girl who has had 20+ cocks inside of her? These women are a bunch of unstoppable morons and guys see nothing wrong with slipping rings on their fingers and buying them dumb shit just to avoid the stigma of being labeled a bachelor in his 30s.
My friends are in their late 20s and early 30s. They’re all married or engaged to “ex” whores. They’re all addicted to kiddie porn, no doubt, and they are all crumbling before my eyes. They spend their evenings watching TV with their wives and their days working jobs that they hate. Their weekends are full of other dull, soul destroying activities initiated by their women. They consider tame, scheduled, dispassionate copulatory sessions with their women to be the same thing as “fucking”. They’re sacrificing the best years of their lives to be with women who wouldn’t be with them during theirs (they all broke up in their 20s and got back together after the girls had their fair share of Alpha Cock).
What is the point???
The only people that disagree with this article either live with blinders on or haven’t dated enough (perhaps you got married early or else simply don’t date a lot). If its the latter, don’t change your personality to accommodate American women. If you do, you are part of the problem.
If you disagree with this article and can’t see how you have become feminized, its likely that you have been feminized to the point where it is permanently ingrained into your personality (don’t worry, its probably not entirely your fault. You can also blame your parents).
Or you are with a woman that dominates you intellectually and sexually, and therefore has convinced you that her masculine traits are normal. Hell, she probably has you joining in to demean other men who she finds threatening to her masculine identity. Masculinized women will not hesitate to demean men. This is one of their giveaways. The sad thing is that their gripes are often fabricated to alleviate the conflict they feel between having less power over a masculine man and at the same time wanting to feel attractive. These are deeply troubled women, and are the same women who are more likely to make up a rape charge if their sense of identity and self worth (they have low self esteem) is too far threatened or ignored. Actually, the angriest are the women who are consistently ignored, through a fault all their own.
What I find is that the reaction i get from American women is precisely inverse to the reaction that I get from foreign women. I can also adjust it either way. The more masculine I act, the easier it is to attract foreign women are and the more they appreciate me. The more masculine I act, the more American women will confront me over the way I am toward women. The funny thing is, every time I ask them for an example to prove their gripe, they cannot come up with one. Its always fabricated, based on their general feeling of discomfort around a guy who isn’t feminized. I believe such gripes come out of a sense of anger toward the masculine role that they have been brainwashed into accepting, but which makes them so unattractive. They truly live in a sexual purgatory.
What a post, really quite considered… I’d conclude the very notion of “feminism” had been quite an ironic pursuit. As you point out, it’s origins in western society now produce quite a very unfeminine breed relative to the more traditional regions. Why settle for anything less as a man of the world?
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Research on happiness have found a consistent decline in female happiness in the US since the early 1970′s. In fact, it’s currently at an all-time low and trending lower.
Bring this up to a feminist and watch them squirm for a justification. It’s kind of fun. ;)
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I agree with an earlier poster about Texas. It seems the South has maintained some of those good ol’ qualities on both sides, while also advancing with the rest of society. I am sure not every girl is as sweet as the ones I’ve met but I haven’t met many girls from there who weren’t sweet.
I find the women in my Canadian city are similar to those in DC. It’s those cities where everyone is so focused on their career as well as other material benefits, and aren’t in the city for any other reason, that see the worst of it. The ones in these cities who are sweet and feminine probably stay home and are low key…because they can’t stand the sight of it either.
One other comment…what is with men who look and act more like women? Maybe it has to do with what women of today want us to look like.
I’ll never forget the time I was dressed up in a suit after work once and a girl bumped into me on purpose and called me “sir” (rudely) as if to imply I was her dad or something. Sorry I left my chains, top hats and Ed Hardy wear in Vegas. I guess I’m also too cheap to get a tattoo just to “fit in” and earn some idiot’s approval. Yikes.
“My friends are in their late 20s and early 30s. They’re all married or engaged to “ex” whores. They’re all addicted to kiddie porn, no doubt, and they are all crumbling before my eyes. They spend their evenings watching TV with their wives and their days working jobs that they hate. Their weekends are full of other dull, soul destroying activities initiated by their women. They consider tame, scheduled, dispassionate copulatory sessions with their women to be the same thing as “fucking”. They’re sacrificing the best years of their lives to be with women who wouldn’t be with them during theirs (they all broke up in their 20s and got back together after the girls had their fair share of Alpha Cock).
What is the point???”
Yes. Why do American men tolerate marrying these whores?
David Collard’s last blog post: More trenchant opinions and advice.
If a Russian girl couldn’t get a greencard from an American man, she’d rather put up with the alcoholic trolls dying off like flies in her own country than swallow her pride and post a dating profile on the internet. — Hey Roosh, I agree with you on most of you say in this post but I have to disagree with you here. There are many foreign women who are gold diggers and are looking for a ticket out of their countries but there are also many foreign women who have been played too many times by their local “alcoholic trolls”…
Not just in Russia, also in Latin America. Guys in these places have it better, so they cheat more, many times they beat their women among other things, and they tend to take these great girls for granted. So think about the 25 – 30 year old Russian or Latin American girl who still looks spectacular, but has been played out by those local trolls too many times to count. She’s probably dated a couple of married local guys who told her they’re going to leave their wives, but never do. There comes a point where these foreign girls snap and they say I’m not going to take this shit anymore from these local trolls. Just like American guys snap and say “no more” to the bitchy American female trolls.
After a while these foreign girls get tired of the local trolls and honestly just want a nice guy AKA a guy that treats her good. A lot of American guys fit that role. It doesn’t always go smoothly. A lot of Americans are too nice (or maybe they’re nice to wrong girls) and get walked over, but I think you get my point. My point is that guys from places like the United States will in general treat these women better than their local guys. And foreign women feel that American men treat them better, just like you feel that foreign women have treated you better. In general I think when an American guy and foreign girl meet, they will both treat each other better than their local counter parts of the opposite sex, and I think this is one of the biggest reasons why American men and foreign women area a good match for each other. There are other reasons but this is a big factor, the treatment by both parties. Does it always work? No way! But it usually works out a lot better that a domestic relationship in either country.
Dan DeLa Cruz’s last blog post: Brazilian Women In The USA.
Hey Roosh why the hate. U mad bro?
I’ve noticed that since I’ve started applying “game” my success with women in terms of getting laid has increased substantially but my respect for women has decreased by the same proportion. How can I truly respect women who fall for this shit? I’ve also become more closed to the idea of long-term relationships and prefer the cheap thrills of getting laid with different women which, as Roosh is finding out, is ultimately unsatisfying.
A philosopher (Schopenhauer?) once said something along the lines of “you either despise women or you haven’t given them any serious thought” and the problem with game is that it forces you to give them some serious thought.
Don’t kid yourself dan it is all about money.
And then sure love may blossom.
I really liked the post from #56 as a perspective from a foreign girl. I’m not in the hater camp regarding American women, and I don’t actually like gaming women, but I don’t like being walked over and letting them get the upper hand. Ultimately the best option is finding what we need in other lands. the job thing is an issue though.
You will only despise women if you have expected them to be something other than what they are, and you are surprised and disappointed that they are not what you imagined.
Men have their strategies and women theirs. God and/or evolution has made women what they are. It is unreasonable to expect them to behave other than in accord with their nature.
As my wife once said, in an unfeminine moment of clarity and honesty, women cannot afford principles because they have to take care of their children. And as I said to her once, if the Muslims ever conquered my country, I would die a Christian martyr, and she would be in a chador, calling herself Fatima, and asking her new husband how he likes his rice cooked, within a month.
David Collard’s last blog post: Another good piece at Alternative Right.
“In general I think when an American guy and foreign girl meet, they will both treat each other better than their local counter parts of the opposite sex, and I think this is one of the biggest reasons why American men and foreign women area a good match for each other.”
This is very true for me. Both my husband and I did not enjoy dating our ethnic counterparts (canada and peru) as we were both burned in different ways. I must say though, the horror stories I hear about Canadian women are above and beyond.
Recently my husband’s friend got divorced. She took half his stuff, is getting 30% child support and 20% alimony. With taxes he takes home about 20% of his income. WTF!?
I want to also stress that not all foreign women are the solution (especially for marriage)- one must be picky. Another friend recently married a Guatemalan girl, took her back to his country. She ran away to see her mom in Brazil. He later discovered there was no mom in Brazil. She’s back in Guate and I think they will divorce soon. I wonder if she will also take him to the cleaners.
Canadian divorce laws are abusive. No wonder male suicide rate in Western countries is so high.
Great rant/post, I agree with everything you said. The biggest problem I see, one that affects me as well, is that you started travelling.
If you hadn’t gone abroad, you would have never had those thoughts about American women in the first place.
If you hadn’t hooked up with foreign women, you wouldn’t know what you were missing or how women could/should be like. Once awakened to this fact, you can’t go back.
Your alternatives are: to travel again, or only seek out foreigners back home. Could another trip be on the horizon…
Atlas Al’s last blog post: IN DENIAL, WOMEN LOVE HOOKING UP WITH FOREIGNERS TOO.
I am not from America and I can affirm you that in my country when we speak about Americans, first thing that comes to our minds is McDonalds.
A russian chick I once banged and who had visited america told me that in america people had no soul. She told me you could push a man out of his way or hit him lightly and he would say “sorry” In my country and in Russia he would hit you back. She said she pushed people around on street for fun in America, before it became boring and just sad.
Another chick told me that when she was in France she was many times insulted, once even attacked, because she spoke English and people thought she was American.
So yeah in most parts of the world poeple hate you! :) have a nice day!
That’s because the US justice system is so swayed toward the benefit of women. Tell your Russian chick friend to stick an icepick through her eye. I’m sure she would not be missed.
Welcome to the club. The curtain is now pulled back. At least you will be able to see those women for what they are and avoid the heartache that comes when they manage to coral beta men into marriage. Alpha men get the extremely rare hot women who are also cool and sane. Upper tier beta men get the hot women who are whores, attention whores, and who will stepford them into a miserable existence. Don’t settle.
Its a strange phenomenon that it takes a non-alpha guy to be able to maintain a relationship with these broken and confused alpha women. That’s what I find whenever I date most American woman. They absolutely require a beta male to function in a relationship, yet aren’t attracted to them. When I date them, feels like two men in a relationship. That doesn’t work. Someone needs to be the undisputed leader. Its a shame American women either feel the need to be in that role, or else learn that that’s the role they should assume from their mannish friends and TV.
1. Your retarded.
2. There are many men here that would put her in her place. The “Americans have no soul” routine is tired and makes you seem as if you have no culture or experience with anything outside of your village.
3. I’ve been to France and that’s not how it is for people who speak english but respect the French culture. Additionally, my family has French friends who visit us a couple of times per year. They don’t hate us. When it comes down to it, people are all very similar. At least when it comes to those who aren’t troglodytes. Everyone else can fight it out and hate one another over false and imagined boundaries.
@ 88, Dan de la Cruz:
“A lot of Americans are too nice (or maybe they’re nice to wrong girls) and get walked over…”
Fair enough about the foreign guys acting like trolls, but I’ve been in enough US embassies oversees to see that many of the US guys trying to pull off the marriage to third world women thing actually LOOK like trolls, and often have a lot of issues related to needing to control women and other forms of social retardation.
So many of these women have been beat up / murdered in the US that special legislation had to be introduced to help them.
That said many of these relationships can be successful if the guys aren’t creeps. VERY FEW rich American girl / third world guy relationships will work… very few are even attempted but all the ones I know of have ended in quick divorce.
Either a) the man has so much “lower social status” that she starts to semi-secretly despise him and he resents it, or b) maybe he is from an “upper class” third world background, and used to being entitled and cheating around, so he tries to break free of his new cage.
Just based on my own anecdotal awareness, not trying to sound like a scientist or anything.
“There are many men here that would put her in her place. The “Americans have no soul” routine is tired and makes you seem as if you have no culture or experience with anything outside of your village.”
Yeah, tipical thinking of an american post-imperialist. You assume everywhere outside U.S it is a village.
I have travalled a lot and I am a polyglot. People like me in France cause I speak a little Franch. They speak very bad english, worse than most europeans. That is because they do hate you, not all but many. It tells someting about them someting, and it tells something wbout you too.
Just chill out I am not saying all americans are soulless. Just the fat ones. And the pollitically correct ones. And the feminist ones. And the white-knighting manginas. Just the most. ;)
Also, it’s “fewer” American women, not “less.”
The more masculine I act, the more American women will confront me over the way I am toward women.
It’s a shit test my friend.
Men and women have different strategies they can adopt depending on what happens in their lives. Hypergamy in women is an instinct, but instincts can be overcome by sufficient social pressure, or they can be expressed in different ways.
I was very impressed by the remark I read recently along the lines that some American women will take a load to the face from a man, but won’t cook the same man a meal. This is perhaps because when she is in her sexual throes, she is being instinctive and submissive; but once she gets into the kitchen she remembers her socialisation to be a ball-busting bitch and decides she damn well won’t cook a meal for some man.
Anyway, if a woman finds a sufficiently superior male, she will run program A. That is, the basic female program – submit to get resources. So, one sees even strong feminists joining literal harems if a man is alpha enough. But if she only finds herbs and betas in her real life, she will settle for a beta, but she will say to herself “this guy is a bit of a wimp, but at least he will share the household chores and be supportive of my career”. So, she runs program B. It is not her ideal, but it, and the man, are a good second best.
The funny thing is that most career women who won’t work for the man at home, end up working for The Man at work anyway.
David Collard’s last blog post: Another good piece at Alternative Right.
Come on now.
You live in DC. It’s a town full of highly educated, status seeking women. So you’re gonna get a lot of average chicks who think way too highly of themselves (in the looks department, at least). Why do you always seem suprised by this?
No way can you go to Brazil and come back and put up with that shit. I keep saying it – you have to get the fuck out of DC and go somewhere with some hot chicks.
haters gon’ hate.
Hey I am fan and a Muslim Turk…fuck that comment pissed me off lol.
Unfortunately your right, I find American women repugnant. My cousin who had never been to Turkiye, visited after his father (my uncle) died, over the past summer. I was also on vacation. We met and I asked him about his fiancé. He said he felt like a new person, after seeing Turkish women he could never marry an American. He said they were so feminine compared to American women and they don’t talk all the time. Paraphrasing him, “I want to take care of my wife but I ALSO want to be taken care of.” Lucky for him he is only 21 years old, fresh from graduating school, and has learned early. How many men in America have to suffer before they learn?
Your post reminded me of a coworker who had showed interest in me. Even though her eye contact, touching me, and showing interest in my jokes and stories was obvious of her desire, I could not ask her out. It made things very uncomfortable for a brief time but she is handling my lack of interest well now. She is 9 years younger than me, attractive body not a bit over weight, and her face is a solid 7 and she had spectacular eyes. So why did I not pull the trigger? Her personality is so unfeminine it’s a turn off. Every comment spewed from her mouth is negative. She puts down everyone behind their backs. She has nothing to good say about any of her ex’s. She brags that all she needs is her dogs while at the same time mentioning that men just want to have sex. She brags about drinking all the time. If she did not work for me, I would ask her simply, “Why would any man want you as a wife? Your husband would not get a soul mate, but a competitor teeing off on him when your feelings dictate.”
Right now I am enjoying the dating scene. When it’s time for me to settle down, it won’t be with an American woman. Marrying an American woman is like marrying another man. You might as well switch teams if this is your goal.
“…The funny thing is these girls will tell you they are great communicators. Most of these girls probably work in Sales/PR or related field. They mistake thier professional corporate speak and banal chit chat as communication. Clinical communication maybe?”
This is SO TRUE. Women think because they TALK more, that they are greater communicators. Wrong. They’re the masters of indirect, passive/aggressive communication, i.e. through dropping “hints” instead of simply saying what’s on their minds. Or picking a fight over something random, when they’re really mad about something else. Or just the simple, inane chatter that constantly flows from them. Most don’t learn that it’s more important to know when NOT to talk as it is to know when to talk.
Feminine women, classic women, delicate, compassionate women = hot women. The kind you’re willing to not cheat on.
””””Recently my husband’s friend got divorced. She took half his stuff, is getting 30% child support and 20% alimony. With taxes he takes home about 20% of his income. WTF!?””””’
And you had nothing to say to the above lol
Every man in west needs top get a foreign chick who you fooling dude?
This is one of the finest and smartest pieces you’ve written. You don’t sound bitter. You sound like a man who has been around the world and is looking at the US after a serious paradigm shift.
I completely agree.
West is for working east is for spending the money.
What wrong with him
I’m afraid that your son is incredibly stupid. He thought he could fly with cardboard wings. The stupidity is so severe that it caused a fall which has put him into a coma.
Yea getting with western chick is like being cartman and trying to fly with cardboard wings.
Living on 20 percent of your check. Funny shit.
Live on 20 percent of your check until you can travel and take the 80 percent that you save and live like a king somewhere else. Fuck the bullshit.
Dude, I haven’t lived in the US for 5 years and largely share your feelings on american women; however, “rather say you were…” is a gutless cop out. Sack-up Roosh and help turn our reputation around.
@Roosh “The two girls I used as examples in this post weren’t from D.C”
Not sure if that’s relevant. Are most people in DC “DC natives”? No, probably not. People move there from somewhere else. And more importantly a certain TYPE of chick is attracted to DC. And guess what, it’s not hot chicks! Those go to LA, Miami, and New York.
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Jesus Christ I ran into one of these bitxhes tonight.
Met her in a club Halloween weekend. 6.5 in looks. 3 in personality. She comes over to my place and starts literally interviewing me. “oh this and that, oh you do this, that figures.”
She was fucking interrogating me. She has no idea how to be a woman but thinks she’s gods gift to earth. I only let her come over cuz I tonight I’d fuck her but she wouldn’t take more than her shirt off.
I’d never want any thing more than a cheap lay. She offers nothing of value except being a loud rude ballbusting machine. Ughhhhhhh
Well, you nailed it. I am an European guy living in Latin America.
I lived for a year in the US. I was so appalled about that country that I didn’t want to stay. I left the first chance I had.
Something has gone terribly wrong in USA. I don’t know what it is. It is not only women (which are awful mutants and not women), but the whole people.
Cold, shallow, uninterested in human contact and warmth, with entitlement complexes, only wanting to earn and spend money and obsessed with status.
Fat, with a terrible taste in clothing, obnoxious, proud, uncultured.
Life is sad in US. So lonely, so inhuman. Women are not women and men are not men. But, more important, people are not people, but machines to make a system work.
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I’d just like to point out that I read all the responses (why, I have no idea!).
There appear to be about 3 or 4 responses from non-American women, all of whom support Roosh’s observations and have given anecdotal evidence in support.
There appears to be 1 post from an American woman who tried to bust his balls and tried to act like a man.
“Something has gone terribly wrong in USA. I don’t know what it is. It is not only women (which are awful mutants and not women), but the whole people.”
Yes, there is more to the story. While feminism has destroyed what it means for a woman to be feminine, the problem goes deeper than mere feminism.
The fact is, the American culture has become increasingly violent and inhumane.
Far too many Americans think it’s perfectly fine to drop bombs on and murder people 10,000 miles away who never did anything to them.
Far too many Americans think it’s cool to act like thugs, mark up their bodies with ink, laugh at videos of homeless people being beat up, root for the cops who taser and even kill people who are not threatening anyone, and waddle around with 100 pounds of excess fat on their bodies.
Far too many Americans have lost their humanity, and the culture is slowly self-destructing.
Feminism is just one part of the bigger picture.
I think above commenters are right in noting that the failure of US women is indicative of a wider failing of US culture. I just read this article and if you consider yourself well informed about politics or economics, or even your own country for christssakes (Americans actually ridicule those who are educated about these matters) you should read it. I’m American btw, living in NYC. Considering moving to buenos aires though.
Amen my friend, Amen
Dang Roosh, why have you become so anti-American? I love this country and all that it has to offer. I love the equality of the sexes. I wouldn’t want to live in any other country in the world – this is THE best place for women. That said, I am a woman. Love this place and I love American men.
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Earlier tonight, a couple of friends told me about this post in which you’ve hijacked my blog profile. You little minx! Still, I’m glad to hear that my few flippant sentences can serve as a boner-killer for you. It feels good to have a purpose in life, y’know what I mean?
And much thanks for pointing out my spelling error. Clearly, I didn’t spend enough hours drafting that powerful! and impactful! statement of who I am. ;P
I think it’s been left (unintentionally, I hope?) ambiguous in this post, but it’s worth stating for the record: You and I have never met, kitten. The chompy kisser wasn’t me, although my friends – the ones who tipped me off to this post – were QUITE tickled by the idea. But if we ever do run into each other at a DC watering hole, I’ll let you refuse to buy me a drink and then ignore/insult me without incident, or really, without me giving much of a shit at all.
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In retrospect this all seems so obvious, the harshness of women here in the states is like a cold wind.
Why the hell would you want a toasted PB&J? How strange.
So, I spent a very significant part of the day reading this site. I was horrified/fascinated. Part of me honestly feels bad for you, and not in a sarcastic, belittling way. I think you were hurt by women when you were younger and have crafted an armor around yourself to avoid being hurt anymore. You demand complete emotional vulnerability from women. You want to be nurtured and loved for who you are. You idealize South American women because you feel they can give you those things and aren’t jaded and masculine. But do you earn this behavior? No, you run games on them and have sex with other women behind their backs. I honestly think that American women have been through the wringer with guys like you. They are terrified of being treated the way you treat women. I know when I was single, you were my worst nightmare. I dated a guy once who used a lot of the PUA tricks on me and I felt really used and gross afterward. I was looking to date and I treated him honestly. We broke up after we had a long talk and said that I wanted to be treated like more than a sex object. He couldn’t do it. I was young and naive and the whole thing made me very wary of getting played again. Perhaps that’s why American women seem cold to you, your tricks aren’t anything we haven’t heard before… they are EVERYWHERE, girls have known about these tactics for ages. Perhaps the Brazilian women you are gaming aren’t familiar with the American style of pick-up artistry yet. I can honestly say though, after getting played, I talked to people and they told me that it sounded like pick up artist bullshit. I looked it up and read a lot about it. 1.) I concluded that I was a naive IDIOT. I had not dated many people as I had the same BF throughout high school, and had no idea how brutal the dating world was. 2.) I decided that it wouldn’t happen again. I ran from guys like you. I’ve got myself a GOOD GUY who treats me with respect and is honest with me. He does not need to trick me into loving him, I just love him. We laugh and enjoy each others company…and yes, I cook for him. I am an awesome cook… and GASP!… I fucking bake. I hope someday you heal those wounds from college and find a way to be an honest gentleman to a nice lady.
“I dated a guy once who used a lot of the PUA tricks on me”
So you’re a mindless zombie that fell for tricks instead of being a strong, empowered woman? Do those tricks speak more poorly of you or him?
Truth is it’s not tricks but human nature. Both men and women have pre-programmed buttons, and you’d be a liar to say you don’t use “tricks” on guys to get what you want from that, whether it’s nagging, a certain look of disappointment, wearing a certain outfit, etc. Don’t be naive.
Um, did you read what I wrote? Here, I’ll quote it for you: “I concluded that I was a naive IDIOT. I had not dated many people as I had the same BF throughout high school, and had no idea how brutal the dating world was.” I’m in a long-term committed relationship–3 years, I’m not using tricks on guys. I said that in my post. My actions are not calculated the ways yours are, and you know that. Don’t try to make a connection where there isn’t one.
“My actions are not calculated the way yours are” – You almost certainly do nag, wear a certain look of disappointment, or wear a certain outfit, etc., i.e. you do “manipulate” men. But somehow because you don’t “consciously” do it (i.e., don’t admit it and don’t like to think about it), it’s better. I don’t see how.
[...] Now that I’m back in the states, I’m no longer a gentleman. I’m not chivalrous. I’m an asshole. Ladies deserve gentlemen. American women deserve me at my worst. [...]
As an American woman, I think what’s wrong with American women is pretty simple – they don’t genuinely like men. Which is dumb of them, in my humble opinion. Maybe surprisingly,since I’m a young American woman, I totally agree with damn near everything I’ve read so far on your site. *Kiss* keep doing what you’re doing!
If you think American women are worthless, you should take a look at the men. You sound like a pig.
Roosh, this is so freaking spot on I want to buy you a bottle of fine Kentucky Bourbon. For any American man that’s traveled, this will undoubtedly ring true. After having been overseas my eyes were opened, particularly by my time in Germany, and I’ve never viewed American women the same way. I too feel the unease when interacting with, dating, fucking them. It’s such a damn facade with them the whole time. I am hoping to find work in Barcelona or Munich next year when my current life assignment is finished up. I think it so important for American men to have their eyes opened and traveling is the best way for this to happen, as long as they truly embrace what they experience. Next best would have to be reading posts like this. It re-affirms to me why I am so loath to deal with American women anymore and why I’m sometimes actually glad when one doesn’t respond to me. I think I’ve probably dodged more bullets than I realize.
Keep it up mi amigo.
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OH MY GOD!! As a newcomer to N. America (2002), I NOW understand from this article why I FREAK American men out! I’m a brazilian girl and they want a robot girl! HOLY JESUS, NOW I get it!! No wonder they look at me all funny any time I am human and can’t handle friendliness or human warmth. From the article: “I thought back to the Colombian girl who was too meloso (affectionate) after just a couple weeks of dating. Not used to this behavior, I sternly told her to tone it down. I still remember her response—it was the same as a newborn kitten adjusting to earthly light: scared and confused. What a heartless monster she must’ve saw me as! Thing is I was a monster. ” NOW I get it!! There’s nothing wrong with ME, it’s the men!
Thanks Roosh, things are becoming clearer now, and through your essays, and…I’m almost 47!
Roosh….good but long and we all hear your frustration, even though so TRUE is your analysis.
Not only are the traits listed here and in your other posts describing American Women accurate, there are still so many more. (I haven’t read all your info, you actually may have covered it all…)
Been in the game for quite a few years, America of course and all over the world as well. I look typical American if there is a look. (Military) But..Now that I have aged some, our incredibly AGEIST society in America is quite obvious when I am forced to make a comparison to almost ANYWHERE else. (England, Germany, and some big, westernized Asian cities like Seoul and Tokyo also have ageist issues it seems,and I am sure there are more in western european cities as well)
(Roosh, I know you realize all this…this is just a shout to the older readers who are quiet and we are not target audience I am sure..no offense taken)
Ageism reigns supreme. Especially with younger women, and I mean to be specific, 21-30…..they carry with them the 100 item list of specifics, (publicly lie about it though) yet their submission to peer, parental, and societal pressures is so extreme that they cannot admit even the SLIGHTEST attraction in public to anyone more than 3-5 years their senior. Sometimes even act like they want to call 911 just because of a smile in their direction….(If anyone reading not well travelled…need proof? peruse for 5 minutes any of the thousands of internet dating sites bot america and anywhere, and look up what age the women seek,…American 25 yr old desires 25-28 yr old…overseas almost anywhere else? 24 yr old seeks 8 to 80 yr old or unspecified or doesn’t matter) And if the instant response in your head is…”Those are just hookers overseas, that doesn’t prove anything” then I demand you immediately close your computer, hit yourself in the head with it, then continue.
As someone younger, there are multitudes of ways to get in the game, but ultimately, IN AMERICA, age either allows it or doesn’t allow it to work most times right from the start. (Age increases the difficulty exponentially, not sequentially, and then once a certain age look is exceeded, its basically over in America for 90% of the game techniques)
Sitting in a bar in Asia once very recently, a young Brit (25 or so) who was traveling was having a beer and asked me, “Hey Bloke, seriously, I am not sure I see the big deal about this place?” and I told him…..come back in 20 years….you will.
But the fact he was even out there suggests he’s a gamer with a different attitude than probably most others even his age, so he does extremely well home country I am sure…and even America. Cause he’s 20 something…and game works if even slightly applied with any amount of skill at all….
trust me..Age is not an excuse…and you can only be thinking that if you are not yet at that age..( I used to ha ha..)
But I have nothing to prove….nothing makes up for the decline completely, and it just keeps getting worse. ( Louis CK says it best..”There comes that day when you wake up and just realize that it just is never ever going to get better than it is…)
But, as a normal guy, I just know what I like and what I don’t. It’s like there is a sign on the Ice Cream store or candy store that says “Under 40 allowed, 40-45 maybe, Over 45 strictly forbidden in all cases unless you are a celebrity or very very rich, both preferred). Am I expected to not like chocolate ice cream or Snickers after 45 all of a sudden? NOT!
Roosh, all of what you speak is true, and the women of the world are not ten times better but 100 times better, in every way, toward ALL aged men. BUT…..as one ages past certain milestones in how they look, (for most somewhere between 40 and 55) they realize that at that point, it becomes 1 MILLION times better and that American women that WILL talk to them become almost intolerable, and the women that the MAN wants become nearly inaccessible.
And to all men 35 or younger… really…I say this….would you even CONSIDER pursuing some 40yr old or older woman? Really? If not Rich? sure you would…
so what makes ANYONE think that is what a man of ANY age would want them (and I wouldn’t even take the money….forget it…)
For younger women, we have to walk to the bar (if they didn’t stop me at the door and stare and glare and give a wtf? look that I NEVER get o’seas) with Benjamin’s hanging from our mouths…and even then….they may still not want to cross the age barrier publicly unless they are “working” or soon to be that…
South America, Asia, Eastern Europe…..older men are actually PREFERRED in some cases by younger women,…..which you don’t realize until your older. If they are good liars….who cares…at least it doesn’t feel that the whole society is against it as well.
Keep up the research ROOSH, you are saving LOADS of guys headaches, heartburns, and money. The young guys who don’t know better to experiment? They will eventually…or they will end up paying the rent for the bitch he eventually realizes he should have moved on from years earlier.
You are inspiring more guys than you know Roosh. Keep it up….sometimes a bit on a rant…but hey….your allowed your emotions too. Good job.
If I didn’t have foreign visits to dream of trip after trip, sometimes long sometimes short…but the vision and memory, who knows what person I would be now. I may make it permanent one day. Who knows.
I know there are guys out there you are inspiring to give it a go one last time……and if they follow your advice, it will result in nearly instant success and they will never ever regret it, it will inspire them to live.
Keep on it RooshV…power to you.
Sincerely pathetic post, male-thing. If you’re looking for one-night stands, don’t complain/whinge/moan/whine that American women don’t show you their “sensitive sides.” You’re probably turning them off with that rampant sexism. So while you keep looking for a woman who’ll basically press your “provider buttons” and present no emotional or mental challenge whatsoever (and I wish you the best of luck finding HER), the rest of womankind will breathe a sigh of relief that you’re not … sniffing…. around their neighborhoods. Oh, and if you have such a problem with American women, why not just do them all a favor and MOVE AWAY?
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I’m an American woman, just discovered this blog, and for some reason find it interesting to read. Maybe I should be insulted, but I think there is a lot of truth to these comments about American women…even though we’re not all like this, and he seems to be describing a certain type of hardened career city girl while I’m from a more traditional area of the country where women get married young, so I think it’s very over-generalizing. But there is something very true about this. Just a little story from my experience: When I was 22 and in grad school, I was cute and in a male-dominated field so I always had lots of guys interested in me since there weren’t too many other cute girls in this field. I became friends with a Polish guy who was older and who made a lot of comments to me about how un-womanly I was. Why didn’t I wear skirts more, why I swore, etc. I’d always thought being cool, tough, funny, with a tomboyish and “one of the guys” demeanor was the way to be, that guys liked that. That being too girly was going to make me seem weak and no one would respect me then. I really liked this Polish guy and wanted him to like me too, but we were never anything but friends. I couldn’t understand why since guys were always crushing on me, but maybe he just didn’t find my unfeminine qualities attractive. Now…10 years later…I’m married, a mother of 3, and have learned so many of those feminine qualities of softness, nurturing, affection, just by being a mother. But for some reason girls are not taught to be that way from the start in our country.
Speaking as an American veteran of foreign exiles: Roosh is onto something, but the flip side of the coin is that men in our country are none-too-cool either. Nice to see Roosh is waking up to his own robotic programming. American men and the women deserve each other, but they’ve all been weaned on curdled milk. I’ve boycotted American women for most of my life, and am enjoying an LTR with a tender, sweet, sensitive, nurturing, pretty, multilingual, well-educated, ultra-feminine and hot lady from E. Europe (oh, and she’s more than 12 years my junior) who tolerates and even likes my brutish American tendencies.
I’m American Woman (well I mean not ethnically but I was born here)& I can say that I’ve seen many different cultures: Hispanic, African, European and many others and there is a MAJOR difference in the women (and men) but I can honestly say you are RIGHT. and maybe not all but MOST of these women are just as you say. However I can cook (my fiance LOVES my arroz con pollo & my empanadas de peixe & that’s not spanish by the way(although he is)–it’s cape verdean–google it) & I’m an amazing woman. There are plenty of American women who have culture, are feminine and can cook–although I’ve yet to meet some who don’t have ethnic roots in another country. i.e. hispanic american, african american, european american etc. I just think those cultures place a value on women having a certain role and in america that role is lost. I’m all for woman equality but at the end of the day if I were a man I would want a nice sweet woman who could cook, that cared for herself physically and had values. so AMEN its not that your sexist you just have witnessed the beauty of other cultures. :)
I think maybe you should live in each country for 5 years, then talk about the women or the crime or the standard of living. Popping on holiday to a city or a country a few times, well, it just doesn’t give one any idea of what’s going on.
Each country’s men and women are a bit different, but – Jesus, be fair – women are fucking great – why spend time talking about the ones you DON’T like. I am sure you have people who know you who hate you, some who love you. Does that make you great or tossy?
If you took America out of the world. What would we really have from an entertainment perspective? Fuckall! Very few fun movies, very little great music, even less great singers, and a lot less women.
If you got rid of most of the other countries in the world – there wouldn’t be that much of a loss from an entertainment perspective.
Hell, if America never existed – neither would the internet – and your blog wouldn’t have seen the light of day…
Give women the credit they deserve. Without them, the world would be veeery dull.
Funny thing with the russian girls. They find pride in being with a stupid drunk. I choose americans over russians anytime. And I’m from easter europe. I find assertivness sexy and passivity lame.
I a well-traveled American female – having lived around the world, financed by my male-dominated career no less – and just want to contribute:
- why do you keep dating chics you’re not into? and just b/c you’re not into a type doesn’t mean you have to pull that type down;
- I also tend to agree with the one of the previous posters: you’re expecting far too much affection on the prowl for one-night stands … if you’re going to act like an animal then you should be prepared to be treated like one;
- if you want someone to cook and clean for you hire an immigrant house staff >> I am a partner, and I am capable of affection and nurturing (but if you can’t pull your weight at the table, there’s absolutely no reason for me to invest my time in you);
Also, you should divorce the various personas modern American females are burdened with: who I am at work doesn’t come home, and vice versa.
Sls you are so right.
“I’m only disappointed that the women of my birth country have been destroyed through the work of intellectual man-haters. Or is it the fault of suits in power who go along with the anti-man nonsense to lock up the female vote?”
“I don’t need a girl to do anything but spread her legs”
Quotes are related to each other.
hahaha, Playa, I am guessing you arent letting your mother read the last line of your contribution
Roosh, welcome to the Millennium Generation. The twentysomethings you hit on have an identity crises due to negligent parenting circa the 1980s. Greed was good, coke was white, and the music – egad, the music!
Men are ashamed to be men. Then;
Women unwittingly become men.
Both genders absolutely hate this.
You complain about the misspelling of “reconnaissance”; you misspell “novocaine” in the next paragraph.
THe role reversal thing is the same in west EU
thing is you created it and you are the ones who can reverse it.
the US is a dynamic nation things change very fast compared to other countries
running away isn’t the problem wherever you go you take your inner issues with you.
besides most of American men are going to end up with and AW anyway.
As a foreigner i think the US as a group could be compared to a young kid between 10 and 16 still growing up and learning fickle naive impatient etc.
I do not think it’s a bad thing nor meant as an insult.
I am not sure what that means at all? As opposed to what other groups? Is their a group that you would consider to be like an adult?
Where is that exactly?
I have lived in more countries than most folk, and to be fair, if you are from a culture who requires women to be submissive – no, the US isn’t the place for you. You would need to move to a society where women weren’t treated as equals.
Living in an open minded society isn’t easy. It means you actually have to do some thinking.
Something I feel a few people on here aren’t really interested in.
I think SLS said it all pretty much… a few comments above.
I just spent a few hours reading all of the comments and I must admit that MUCH of what has been posted is true. Now we can all have tons of conferences discussing what the causes are, but the effects are non-debatable. Not only are a lot of American women are not taught to be kind, soft, feminine(which is different from sexy), loving, and affectionate(not in a clingy or needy way), BUT they are taught by culture or education to BE AGAINST SHOWING THESE THINGS. People can try to discredit Roosh because of his lifestyle, but I am a handsome, Christian, African-American, male who has been celibate(Entirely my choice) for several years and I notice the SAME thing. If something doesn’t change we’re in trouble!
In general I think you have described the state of women in all the Major Western Democracies. Britain, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand. A genuine feminine caring loving women is as rare as hens teeth in these Nations of todays World. The body of a woman but the mind of a man.
Funny, and one of Roosh’s best. My experience with the last 3 girls I’ve dated – not just fucked, note I said girls, a true woman is a rarity imo – is their inability to turn off the hyper-uberism associated with the megalomania both genders have internalized. It seems that women in the U.S. always have a way out, protected by feminist adoption in our culture, and worse yet, our laws. Unfortunately, this isn’t just a “city girl” persona ascribed to well traveled, intellectual women. I see it as a rite demanded by all to certain degrees.
Having cake and eating it too is the theme, in the work place, in the household, at the bar, in the salon, etc.
I think this article embodies the core of a big issue. That being; the lost ability of American women to exercise appropriate behavior when the time is right, and sensibly shift gears when the with their behavior to lead a fuller life. Its not that they don’t want to, its that they don’t have the skill set to even do it anymore. Too many generations removed with the sun setting further and further into the distance. What I’ve experienced isn’t a 5-speed transmission that now comes standard in most rides, but a blatant on/off toggle switch. When that light starts blinking, I look to plan B,C,D,& F and begin exercising my comprehensive contingency plan for my dick and sanity. HA!
Flakiness and awkward starchiness when sublte, non-needy ques are set forth by an experienced man, slip right through their psyche, ultimately driving the man off to search for less bullshit in another woman, which is no less/more equipped statistically than the one he just walked away from quite often, just with a different short-term shell to present. The cyclical redundancy error then goes on into infinity, with No-Depth-Of-Character in the driver’s seat.
That transient behavior which is seemingly driven by multiple manipulative stimuli toward men – to demand having cake and eating it too, and not earn it first – has subsequently turned many men into beta-bitch-boys, and over-burdened the evolution of American game.
My desire is ultimately to have a good woman if I come across one. Not the “best,” just good, as I don’t believe in 10′s existing either. I’ve met garbage in churches, work places, coffee shops, universities, bars, clubs, internet, and walking down the road. Night gaming in the U.S. is fucking horrendous, wait till day gaming gets just as bad, and it surely is. Bottom line for me is you just have to run through scores to get to a better bunch, then that better bunch, and the notoriety from gaming them, might give you a shot at one to attempt a short, then medium, or even long term relationship with.
What has shocked me the most lately is how many girls have that 1 wacko quirk about them that makes them 0% datable, and thrown back into the fuckable-only pool.
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Even before I read this article a friend of mine put it best “American women are like men these days”. There’s a lot of truth in this. Maybe this is why no one wants to marry American women anymore.
American women are ok to date or whatever, just don’t marry one, find a nice foreign chick to settle down with.
Wow! I am both American and Swiss. 90% of this is garbage. I am a respectable size. I speak French, two different dialects of German and Portuguese fluently. I am learning danish for my husband, because I want to and not because I feel obligated. While I don’t think I am on par with Adrienne Lima or Maria Sharpova, I am fairly attractive lady. By seeing a couple of your pictures, you really shouldn’t be harsh with ranking girls. If were to swoop to your level and put a rank on you, I’d give you about a 5. I have dated a Russian, Colombian and a couple Brazilians. If those women are great, why would they turn to me? They found me just as nice as one of their girls. In fact, they have enjoyed the fact I can hang out like one of the guys by day and be a lady at night. I’ve had a very aggressive mainly Brazillian woman try to beat me up. My dad nearly was fooled into marrying some Russian goldigger whore who just wanted a greencard and our family’s money.Still, I do not think all brazillian girls are aggressive bitches and russian women are goldigging whores. You shouldn’t think all American women are obese feminist bitches. How about judging someone for who they are and not their nationality for a change?
Well here is the issue most American women are just like he is describing. I am almost 40 been married and engaged and have several female friends. They are all like this.
The problem is most women I know see nothing wrong with how they are.
Now that I have no intentions of nothing more than screwing American women, I call them on it.
My guys friends and myself have been discussing this kind of stuff for a few years.
I really hope more men start to wake up. They can do better and don’t deserve to have to put up with the crap they do.
Well… I was reading your blog during the whole day. What can I say? I am a Ukrainian 24 year old girl, living in DC for 2,5 years. Don’t know your standards but you would give me 8 (some give 9)… I just recently started dating American men, after became completely disappointed in Russians. I guess every single EE would prove my words: it’s very hard to get an American guy. All he cares about is woman’s education (he doesn’t care about her home country degree of course) and her job. She can be hot as hell, but if she can’t handle paying off half of the mortgage or rent, he will rather date an ugly average American lawyer or equal.
Why don`t you get married? You seem to really like the company of these foreign chicklets. You describe them in very endearing terms. Why don`t you marry one of them? Like what`s the point of being the woman you describe you want to be with when in fact you don`t want to be with them longer then a few good lays? I find your comments about Western woman interesting. But I will say this, behind all of those cut throat woman i’m sure there’s someone who broke her heart and left her in pieces. As bad as we are, woman are tender twigs.
Preface: I’m an American (female) feminist, but I promise I left my torch and pitchfork at home. ;P
Agree with Mimi.
What cracks me up most about men who complain about American girls is that this complaint always comes from the mouths of guys who are into (or have been) hooking up on a very frequent basis. Like I always say- consider the source. People who espouse the virtues of ‘game’ are adept at acquiring pussy, and fail to acknowledge (Roosh himself notwithstanding) their inability to have real relationships with women. This is because they tend to view women as a set of statistics (IE, “she’s a 5″) and a puzzle of varying difficulty. A puzzle which, once solved, provides a reward of sexual gratification.
By devaluing women this way and detaching oneself from the emotional component of sex, anything that gets in the way of easy access to pussy or ego-stroking is a liability and more importantly, an annoyance. It’s self-conditioning. If there is a certain class of women you consistently apply this thinking toward, it’s not surprising that you would begin to associate this perceived worthlessness with that class.
It’s an honest truth: men like things to be simple and easy. They don’t want to have to work for pussy, and if a foreign girl is willing to provide that *and* cook him dinner, she will shine when compared to an American hookup-target who has an inflated sense of entitlement.
I think an issue here is what one might call ‘target selection practices’. Online dating services make it really easy to pre-screen prospective mates, I would say for best results- look at the background of the women you’re considering. Someone else in this thread mentioned Northern Virginian and Southern girls. Where one is raised has a definite impact on one’s values, so perhaps aiming for small-town types might be a good place to start.
I do believe there is validity in Roosh’s complaint. There are droves and droves of men and women out there who make lousy partners because of skewed personal values. In such an environment, it seems like dating someone from outside of the ‘states would be an elegant solution.
However, I would be cautious of a long-term relationship with any women from a predominantly Roman Catholic (I’m looking at you, Brazil!) country. While this doesn’t apply to everyone, I’ve met women who do treat their men like gods- and also expect their men to pay for the 12 children their mother is expecting them to have. I mean, if marriage and a minivan is your thing, go for it, but I know that’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Also, even if she doesn’t want to have her own personal soccer team, I wonder if the novelty of the sweet, eager-to-please mate might get old after a while. Obviously that’s a highly circumstantial supposition, but it is a valid one.
All that said, I don’t want to seem like I’m dogging non-American women. After all, if my grandfather hadn’t gone off to Japan and married my grandmother, I wouldn’t be here today! It can definitely be fun to date someone from a drastically different way of life, as many here have attested.
If the dating status-quo isn’t acceptable, there are a myriad of reasons for it, and looking for a cut-and-dried solution (IE, “just move out of the country”) isn’t realistic. For a *long-term relationship*, you need someone with compatible values, be they foreign or not.
Hope this was marginally more useful than the “suck it up and stop complaining” comments!
you guys all sound like a bunch of women
grow some balls and maybe the women won’t feel like they have to
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Feminist shaming language has already started meaning American girls don’t need to adjust their behaviors or attitude
It is true that being a man, a “real man” as they say, with all the machismo and confidence that goes along with it, is punishable in America, but in a way being a “real woman” doesn’t do a person any favors either. When you’re trapped in a country filled with men who refuse to take charge, and where how much money you make is all that defines you, what is a girl supposed to do? I am American (currently living in Mexico) and I will admit that I have emasculated an American man or two, but it is just too easy (I try not to do it to guys I want to date, btw). At the same time, I cook excellently, I clean and sew, and I’m very well educated… I also happen to be an artist w/o much money, and it is this last characteristic that all the men focus on, not my feminine qualities, which you have described as so desirable. American men don’t want wives, they just want roommates to help pay the bills, whom they can also fuck whenever it seems desirable. It is hard to be feminine in a country where men refuse to be masculine, and the ones who are also happen to be insufferable bigots.
This stuff is messed up! What’s even more messed up is how sad you seem— with all that shit you spew, you’re a sad little boy.
Based on my experience of american woman, those i have dated (from new zealand), I ve found some common threads. The convoluted stories trying to deflect intimate serious conversation, which roosh mentions. And the hard ass exterior. Serious, unforgiving. Whether thats symptomatic of radical feministis indocrintaion i don’t know. Maybe its americans puritanical roots. Anyway, roohs evaulation is a generalisation. does nt always hold true. I do find american gilrs alot of fun though. You can get really crazy and out of hand and they’ll laugh along with you. I like that.
american woman are basically woman with mens attitude like some body said here. And that is the modern woman according to these woman. they only need men for sex. they work and live like men. they really do not need men as a provider, unless he can take them to stratosphere of richness!
they do not need him as a provider, like back in times.
if they want to kid, they get it. no need to marry! single mothers galore is it not? govt will take care of young ones.
well, in a game of getting laid, what more can you expect?
you try to fall in love, you will end up with heart break of epic proportions.
it takes so much of emotional investment and consequences you have to face. I have hands on experience.
Eastern block women are they speak their minds, are more attractive, know how to cook, enjoy giving and receiving sex and are highly educated.
I have dated foreign women since 1985. I could never look towards an American woman as my wife. They are too shattered and high strung.
I interview my Polish/German girlfriend ans she answers the questions with such though and clarity (non femanizi stylings)
P.S, I am a African American who travels extensively (non military) and has lived in Prague, Thailand, Amsterdam.
Sorry for the typos guys. I was in a hurry.
I think you are right about women being less feminine in the US, which I miss, too since I am from Eastern Europe. I live in USA now.
Ironically, US is the place where I got laid the most (a lot).
Dude, there are nice girls here too. I like the younger ones in Cali, Miami or some (not all) Southern cities. They can be really hot and not butch like a lot of Northern US girls (exclude West Coast).
US girls find me sufficiently attractive because of my manners and accent. The rest is “game”.
Girl in my home country are not fat and there are some real hotties but I can’t get laid there for shit. They just find me very unattractive.
So, I’ve bitched about it the same way as you bitching about the US chicks but the reality is they just need to find you attractive.
I’ve been to many countries and I’ve gotten laid there a lot but not in my home country. I just cannot compare to the studs there and I’m too dull looking to the girls there.
Trust me, it’s proven with a lot of trying. I’ve been at this for about 10 years.
So, dude I feel you but:
1. Move to a cooler city with nicer girls like LA, Miami, whatever… I like DC but you are right the chicks are FAAAAT
2. Maybe they just didn’t find you attractive regardless of the feminism, etc… That’s why you are less successful here.
It’s always the ugly chicks that seem all into that shit anyways..A nice, feminine American girl will rarely have anything to do with feminism (not a ‘ho’, gold digger, coke head type of hot chick of course…)
So, you did the right thing and travelled. Some of those hot foreign chicks found you attractive cos you look different, cool etc and deemed you as hot. Some of them liked you for status, money, etc. Been there done that. It’s a ton of fun nevertheless.
You are mostly right about the cooking though.
creo que aprendiste mucho del sentir suramericano sobre todo del argentino, colombiano, o brasileño si me escribes hablemos de paradojas de nuestras culturas (sorry no hablo bien el ingles)
Came across your blog today, and find much interesting in it. My first comment is, all generalizations are false, including this one.
My next is to quote James Moody, the late, great black jazz musician married to “Honey” (Linda Peterson Moody), who is white: “There are only two races, male and female.”
By way of qualification, I have lived, worked, and traveled in 70-some countries and territories on six continents. I have dated, been friends with, flirted with, and fucked women in many of them, and have had four wives representing three religions, three countries, and at least one other planet (though she carried a U.S. passport).
Yeah, American women can be real pains in the ass. They can be superficial, materialistic, demanding, dishonest, and arrogant. But, believe it or not, they’re not the only ones.
I have dated a superficial, materialistic, arrogant young Brazilian woman (and have seen the depths to which Brazilian women’s jealousy can reach), have been lied to and ripped off by Algerian and Albanian women (at least one of the former I was married to, and yet of both countries have had and do have close relationships and ongoing friendships), and have seen more than a little insincerity and opportunism among women in South America, Eastern Europe, Asia, and North Africa. And I’ve had some good experiences (and some rotten ones) with American women.
The woman with whom I am now involved is both American and South African, and she combines the charm, color, edginess, and sexuality of both cultures.
So I have to go back to my first two comments in this posting, and I’m stickin’ to them.
I had lived 15 years in CA, damn, I fell in love with American man, was with him for over 10 years only to find out that he needs a fuck buddy only, Americans want foreign women, but then they expect them to behave like Americans, it’s all crazy up there…there are two kinds of straight men in US,one is “yes dear” and other macho men and they think that women are from another planet…no friendship,no consideration about other sex as a human being. Very antagonistic relation between genders in US, I only had men friends there that were Greeks. I think my mistake was that I dated American men, in California, where I could easily meet Europeans or South Americans. I’ve got so upset with my American “boyfriend” that I went back to my home country…Oh well, but I still think, American men are the only ones I can dig…and yes American women are a disaster!
American man wanted for long-term
to Straight Ken
I agree with you, I lived in US 15 years, dated one American man for 10 years and got nothing…
Well, as you might already know, in south america the top girls (7+) are just like that. But they can also be freaking crazy. I support Hotlix point of view because, while some part of the women population can act like annoying attention whores, I still believe there are some good ones out there. What I envy about your country is the way they are so open about one night stand and how educated some of them might be. I was born and raised in Venezuela, and having sex there (or at least in the social group I move around) is viewed like you are some kind of monster if you do it for just one night and just for fun. It’s a lot of look but don’t touch, and mostly they are a little bit over their heads (which I wouldn’t mind if it was just a little bit of self-steem, but up to that level is annoying) but It really pisses me off when they try to play the kind of stuff you described about the girls in Cordoba.
As you might know, picking uo women in latin america in a bar for a one night stand is plain harder than in America, which is something I believe is a point in favor of girls there.
Good articles, go to Costa Rica one day If you haven’t, girls there are really nice, kind of like a mix between Colombians and Brazilians.
You know your hate for Americans reminds me of Obama’s hate for Americans.
Everything you say about American women is, in general, TRUE. While there are exceptions the vast majority of women fit the profile to a T.
I finally did something about it…9 years ago, I went to Ukraine and met a wonderful woman. We had a dating relationship that lasted a year and a half before we married. I made 6 trips during that year and a half to spend time with her in Ukraine.
9 years later she is STILL a stunning woman, who is cultured, articulate and very, very successful in business. She is also very, very feminine. In a word she is 100% a Lady.
Smartest thing I’ve done in my life was find a woman who wants to be a woman. One who loves being feminine and sensual. My wife would NEVER even think of going in public dressed like a slob. She doesn’t dress like a man, talk like a man or act like a man… EVER
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I would never want to call someone baby after knowing them romantically for less than a month. Maybe some women are slower to intimacy. Touching someone’s leg when you’ve known them for less than two hours? I don’t how that’s healthy. You want to be instantly treated like a boyfriend without investing in getting to know someone and them you, earning their trust, seeing their sensuality and heart open to you slowly- but sincerely and personally (it’s due to you, too, not just the feelings induced by dating, per se (I find being wined and dined kind of intoxicating, for example, as well as being like a woman)). Shallow insta- ‘intimacy’ is all you know, man, not just what you’ve mastered, and it’s cheap. The passion of those south American women you describe sounds easy and impersonal to me. I’m glad my boyfriend waited for me to feel comfortable and close, because he thought I was and thinks I am worth it. I think most guys would wait for that degree of warmth and relationship-like treatment if they were crazy about a girl…. It’s not about prudery. I think you guys have fucked up boundaries and a fucked up idea of intimacy. Maybe just not inclined to pairbonding…… And the sex is fantastic and he does take control. It’s a more friendship- and love-based dynamic than described above, and that seems to be sought here- the hunt for feminine, sexy women- but not extremely…With a good relationship, it’s not just about pushing buttons that only masculinity or feminity can push- it’s individual and personal. Guys’ early feelings are a necessary but insufficient condition for having serious feelings down the road, I think, while women’s later serious thoughts and feelings often started tepid or indifferent, so are less predictable, but I still think it sounds like you are writing women off too early based on a foolish reason- that you expect, because you’ve been spoiled by, insta- intimacy.
I have said it for years, American Women are just plain, fat, rude, lazy and yes……T-A-C-K-Y.
Used to be a French Manicure was a symbol of elegance, decorum and high society. Then along comes the American Woman, who takes said French Manicure and ghettoes the living **** out of it. And that is a microcosm of the bigger issue surrounding American women.
I am now a permanent ex-pat, living in a civilized country where there is true equality among the sexes, the women and men ambrace the genger differences and even a “1″ around here is at least equal to or better than any American “10″.
American women, stay home and keep trying to land an American man, or as you like to refer to them, penises equipped with ATM cards.
why do guys think it’s okay to generalize and say that all American women act a certain way? no one’s perfect. just because someone doesn’t live up to your expectations doesn’t mean that all the nasty things you think about them are true. maybe your should raise your standards and not just go out with any woman who agrees to spend time with you. I mean, you say you’ll fuck any woman as long as she spreads her legs, yet you complain when she doesn’t open up emotionally? and then when she does open up and is honest about her feelings and her worries and eventually breaks down and cries about it, you have absolutely no sympathy for her because all she’s doing is whining about petty little things that no one gives a shit about? your views are just so completely wrong! it’s frustrating. cause guess what, if you’re dating her and you’re fucking her, then you are obligated to listen to her problems and assure her that they’re valid because guess what? THEY ARE. OTHERWISE SHE WOULDN’T BE WORRIED ABOUT IT ENOUGH TO CRY! and she’s trusting you to make her feel better about them because she probably doesn’t tell anyone about them! it should break your heart to see her cry, but instead you’re complaining because crying isn’t sexy and because she’s not fucking you at the time. the problem is that men are emotionally shallow. women use sex to get to men emotionally and men use emotions to get sex.
Interesting argument Roosh
I agree on many of the points you’ve made about American women. I have to wonder though, if American boys and girls are raised in the same environment, why is it that only the American women receive the hate? I’m just a curious female wondering why American men are good enough to go to other countries to find whatever it is they’re looking for, but American women somehow have to disappear with their 900 cats?
Another curious question I propose is what if that foreign woman is brought back to the United States? She’s exposed to the American culture and so would her future children be if she decided to raise them there. Will the foreign woman and her hypothetical children be American drones and instantly hated by everyone around them?
I’m an American female and I will admit to at least some bias in my commenting. The hate unleashed online towards American women is hurtful because I wonder what I’ve done wrong. It doesn’t take long to figure out the answer because you’ve made it clear in multiple articles on this site. My final question is this; if American women made an effort to be less masculine, like their foreign counterparts, would they be so hated? Or no matter what, will they be doomed in their pursuit for romance and all things relating to it?