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Western Culture Poisons Women

Are you familiar with twin studies that are supposed to determine how much of our personality is influenced by genetics versus the environment? Well I have my own twin study going on in Poland, where I observe girls who have lived in America and Britain with those who have not. The differences are striking. It confirms to me that it’s no accident Western women possess so many horrible qualities.

A few weeks ago I met a tall Polish girl who lived in America for two years. She tried to make fun of me for being alone in the club, when she was in fact alone herself. She smiled while busting my balls, as if she was getting enjoyment out of it. I hadn’t had to come up with insult retorts in quite a while, so it took me time to deploy my counterattacks. They were guided in by GPS satellites, beautifully destroying their target. Her face turned sour and she looked like she was about to cry.

I remember the Lithuanian girl I approached in the grocery store. She lived in Britain for five years. Since this was a day approach, I gave her no cockiness, yet when I asked her to repeat her difficult name a few minutes after she first said it, she said, “Really? You can’t remember my name?” Her attitude was flippant, ready to punish me for trying to build rapport with her.

I remember another Polish girl who lived in Britain for one year. She was the coldest one yet, telling me to “Shut up and listen” while going on about how she’s tired of one-night stands and is finally ready to sucker land a guy for a relationship. She questioned everything I said, had no humor about her, and told me she doesn’t wear heels because “they hurt.” Even though she wanted to continue talking to me, I cut the interaction short.

I’ve interacted with several dozen Eastern European women by now (mostly Polish) and these are the only three times that I was left with a bad taste in my mouth when a cockblock was not involved. While not all my interactions with Polish women result in beautiful lovemaking, it’s very rare that I’m wondering to myself why she had to act in a rude manner when I wasn’t disrespecting her. Therefore it’s easy for me to conclude that Western cultures cause direct negative harm to a woman’s feminine vibe and allure. Here are eight things that happen:

1. She loses the ability to flirt with a man without busting his balls or insulting him.

2. She does everything in her power to withhold interest, even when it’s clear that sex is on the agenda. She takes “play hard to get” to an inhuman extreme.

3. She looks for every opportunity possible to turn a man’s banal utterances into an opportunity to debate him on his beliefs or behavior.

4. She uses conversation as a means to her entertainment, instead of a means to getting to know a man more deeply.

5. She becomes more lazy about her appearance by gaining weight, wearing flats and flip flops instead of heels, and cutting her hair short into strange lesbian stylings.

6. She goes out of her way to brag about her accomplishments as if she was a man while doing her best to ignore your more lofty achievements.

7. She becomes obsessed with her cell phone, playing with it incessantly and using it as a substitute for social interaction. She loses the ability to enjoy the present moment.

8. She becomes a status whore more concerned about your job, who you know, and what you own instead of the experiences you’ve had.

Western culture is a like a disease on the female human. I don’t know the exact epidemiology of infection, or what sorts of experiences cause such devastating damage, but stepping foot inside the borders of America or Britain for more than three months will cause the female victim to become infected with the Western virus. For every year she spends in the West, she must live for ten years in a culture where feminism and unbridled capitalism has not yet corrupted society in order to rid herself of the disease. Unfortunately, by the time all traces of virus are undetectable in her bloodstream, she will be old and craggily, no longer suitable or capable of mating. Western culture essentially renders them sterile.

To give you an idea of how far gone Western women are, I present the following article: My first-date dress works every time. It’s a story about a horse-faced woman who has determined that her success in getting call-backs from men is due to wearing a reasonably attractive dress.

Men respond better to “feminine” clothing items, such as dresses and skirts, than they do to pants, according to professional matchmaker Rachel Greenwald, author of “Have Him at Hello.”

American women are so clueless about how to act like women that they have to re-learn common sense from “professionals” who teach them (for money) that men like skirts more than pants. I’m guessing these experts also moonlight in teaching others that the sun will rise again tomorrow.

The best analogy I can make to this pathetic state of affairs is the human race losing agriculture, the ability to grow their own food. In a panic they collect experts from around the world who slowly figure out that seeds go into the soil, that the soil needs water (not Brawndo), and that the substance growing out of the soil can be harvested as food. Sadly, Western women are rapidly losing the knowledge and ability to be women.

For men there are only two courses of action. The first is to adopt an “ignorance is bliss” attitude where you only date Western women, never realizing that you’re injecting your seed into a diseased body. You can go to sleep thinking you just ate filet mignon when in fact it was ground beef patties treated with ammonia. Close your eyes and pretend.

The second option is to get a taste of feminine women abroad, specifically in South America, Eastern Europe, or Southeast Asia. Your palate will explode with sensations and tastes it has never experienced before, leading you to curse yourself for not sampling it sooner. Yes, you will have a couple years of unhappiness when you’re still stuck with Western women while your Brazilian long-distance girlfriend begs you to return, but you will gradually complete the necessary actions to ensure that you never have to date a contaminated woman again.

I implore you to act on the second option by going straight to the farm for the freshest, tastiest food possible. Otherwise you are stuck with a glorified McDonalds dollar menu, which is exactly what Western women have become: mass-produced dreck that you consume only when you’re drunk and nowhere else is open. You deserve better.

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206 Comments »
1 Marco
September 12th, 2011 @ 9:34 am

“American women are so clueless about how to act like women that they have to re-learn common sense from “professionals” who teach them (for money) that men like skirts more than pants. I’m guessing these experts also moonlight in teaching others that the sun will rise again tomorrow.”

Playing a little devil’s advocate here, but am I the only one who appreciates the irony that MEN also are so clueless about how to act like men that they also have to pay to relearn all those things.

Maybe western culture is poison for both genders in that respect.

2 K-Man
September 12th, 2011 @ 9:34 am

Very true.
That’s why when I used to live in DC, we would await impatiently the beginning of the work-and-travel-students season: Memorial Day.
You had to get them fresh or they would get spoiled very quickly. Usually by Labor Day.
Like an O’Henry short story.

3 JT
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:07 am

This description of Easter European girls doesn’t apply to the cold, paranoid, secretive Russians and their carpet-bombing shit tests.

In your own words:
To all the men banging Russian girls: God bless you; you are like glorious iron fist of strength and power.

4 outlaw josey wales
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:14 am

I had the same experience recently. I went to a meet up event and spoke to a number of women there. One was Colombian. It was like she was a different species of woman. After talking to her, American women just leave a bad taste in my mouth.

5 Mala
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:22 am

I have to disagree with you about the “every year in the west” theory you have.

It’s different for many of us women raised by immigrant parents and grandparents in the NYC area, (where I grew up & also P.R.), going back and forth between here and there. It is almost like you develop 2 personalities, in a way. The real one, for the family and people that we love, and then the other.

My one grandmother lived here for almost 20 years, before she died.

She used to get up at 6am and sweep the sidewalk in front of our house in Queens. She then sweep the sidewalk in front of the street and then, the curb. Then, she would get a bucket and mop the sidewalk and the streetside sidewalk and finally, the curb, sometimes with scrubrush and I would fill and dump the bucket for her. My mother used to get embarressed and my father would argue, “she not harming anybody, let her do what she wants”. You will see many immigrant ladies in NYC area do things like this even after 20 years here in the states.

6 vix
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:36 am

foreign women should never even visit america, never mind live there

7 Falcon
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:41 am

This is spot-on and I can confirm it as well. It’s a tragedy and even more so if you have been blessed to taste greener grass.

Roosh, I’d appreciate yours writing a GPS Nuke Response guide for ballbusting westernized women. I mean, I usually just walk away and enjoy myself but it might be nice to have something effective to throw back. For our fun and their education.

8 anon
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:50 am

The penalty for this is when a man is walking down the street and women are the one’s to make the first move. Not in big town America where many of you live but in small town USA. And not because men have lost their ways and don’t know how to interact with women, but because they’ve given up on after experiencing exactly what you wrote. They eventually tire and wish to be left alone.

Tis the problem with big city western women. They end up being broken down into pretty much begging in the end. Especially when they think moving away to smaller towns will somehow change their relationship status. If anything it makes it more difficult because they’re competing for not only a smaller pool of men, but men who are also much wiser and won’t put up with their attitudes.

9 Shawn
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:58 am

Roosh,

Can you recommend any non-Muslim Middle Eastern countries that might contain girls which could use a dickin’?

10 JT
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:00 am

But, Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.

11 Gmac
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:26 am

“American women are so clueless about how to act like women that they have to re-learn common sense from “professionals” who teach them (for money) that men like skirts more than pants. I’m guessing these experts also moonlight in teaching others that the sun will rise again tomorrow.”

This is the hilarious but sad, truth.

12 Jay Cutler
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:31 am

To be fair, western culture is also poisoning men. Or, you might say, women are also poisoning men.

September 12th, 2011 @ 11:40 am

“She becomes more lazy about her appearance by gaining weight, wearing flats and flip flops instead of heels”

Don’t forget UGG Boots and sweatpants instead of short skirts.

I typically don’t give a lot of relationship advice, but if a girl says she does’t like high heels because they “hurt”, run the other way.

Thank me later.

- MPM

14 Blue
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:44 am

don’t forget this one:

She routinely hits/ assaults men and expects never to be hit back. If you’re a man, you’ll shatter her delusion permanently.

15 Basil Ransom
September 12th, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

Marco 1, American men aren’t too bad at getting with foreign women, relative to the competition. So our men can’t be that bad.

What Roosh calls the West is really the Northern-Western European peoples – Anglos, Germans, Scandinavians.

I think French Canada may be an exception. God damn I need to travel.

16 nathan
September 12th, 2011 @ 12:05 pm

OMG Roosh, I had NO IDEA you felt this way about American women!!

17 turner
September 12th, 2011 @ 12:26 pm

Great post Roosh. This highlights my experience too. Every girl I have banged in Colombia and Poland specifically, were blissfully ignorant of America. I have noticed the same thing in terms of interacting with ones who had visited and they were noticeably more cocky. The best are girls who see the old advertised version of America in their eyes, but have obviously never been there due to not having the means. These girls will still be intrigued by your americano status and still act like sweet, nice women (as they should). Unfortunately, these are harder to come by nowadays and you have to go deep to find them (my last one was in Moldova-brilliant).

At #3 JT, true on the Russian girl front. I spent 3 months in Ukraine recently (the eastern and northern part are straight up Russian), and they are in a different a category all together. They have a much colder stance from the very beginning (but it is not due to a cocky attitude attained from a visit out West). I did date two girls from there who had lived in Canada and Australia. They both were a bit more cocky overall than most Russian girls (all are pretty tough in the beginning), but the trade off was solid english in an unenglish-friendly area of the world and they want you more because they understand how much more you offer than the locals (note-girls that have been abroad tend to only want to go for a western man at this point). The fat ignorant Boris’ there are so terrible, that these girls now understand how much greener the pastures are for men out West. Sidenote- I actually mercilessly vocalize this fact early on the interaction, establishing that the men there are terrible, and anchoring that I am vastly superior to anything that will be interacting with and she should act accordingly. Really young girls this might not work with though because they have not been screwed over yet by an ignorant Boris, and will not understand why you think the men in her country are so heinous.

18 Jordan
September 12th, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

Another Golden Post Roosh…..Well Done! Going back to Medellin in October can’t wait for real women!!!

19 Bill Dates
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

capitalism…
men = donkey
women = carrot
capitalist = carter

20 Acksiom
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

Wait, “unbridled capitalism” in the West?

Where is this, exactly? Because I want to move there, or at least invest there — every industrialized western nation I know of has severely bridled capitalism.

21 Luvianka
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:26 pm

Problem is not Western culuture in general, but the Anglosphere in particular. The USA, England, Australia, New Zealand come from the same sexually repressed matrix. In such environment feminism emerged and created the current mess. Countries like France, Spain, Italy or even Brazil belong to the Western World, and have had feminist influences, but they haven’t reached the misandrist levels you find in the US or the UK.

22 Brian
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:28 pm

If a woman cuts her hair very short for a non-medical reason, then there is something not right in her head.

23 beta_plus
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

Great post – but it’s not unbridled capitalism that causes problem. It’s the unbridled welfare state, whose pinnacle is Scandinavia, that causes western women to have zero incentive to act like women. Why bother when you can just fuck the bad-boy-biker-no-chance-of-being-a-good-provider-alpha-male, get knocked up by him, and make the state take all the beta providers pay for your bastard spawn.

40 years under Soviet rule will make you think twice about letting the welfare state get too out of control.

24 El Indulto
September 12th, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

To be fair, most American men are equal for the part and just as slovenly as their androgynous mates.

Having spent the last 10 years of my life out of North America…I would have to agree with you whole-heartedly Roosh. I have discussed this for years the “globalization of romance markets”. Ultimately, it is a question of economics, and interestingly enough, the dating situation in the US mimics the general state of the US economy in comparison to other more dynamic economies.

When american women realize that their value as women has been so severely eroded by the relative value of women from other countries, maybe there will be a return to balance. Somehow I doubt it.

The entitled attitude of so many american women these days and the never ending line-up of supplicating worshipers will ensure that, for years to come, american women will continue to wield an ever increasing power in the sexual market as the attractive ones see their competition get fat and buy a cottage in the forest for them and their cats. Those that have the genetics to maintain a sensible BMI will continue to rake in the benefits, regardless of their feminine charms.

I long ago lost hope for western women(excluding most Quebecois women), and not because I’m some loser that can’t get any at home, on the contrary, its because Im sufficiently educated and worldly to know better…it’s like you said, why eat McDonalds every day when you don’t have to?

Oddly enough, the ‘McDonalds effect” really applies to just about everything when it comes to the US, women, poilitics, you-name-it. The ironic thing is how irate americans become when it is suggested that there could possibly be anywhere that does anything better than the US. Whilst they go around waving the almighty banner of freedom, democracy and free market values, fundamentally, on a basic level, the majority americans don’t really believe in any of those things. Americans, in a general way, want sanitized, pre-approved sameness.

The question is, how can we, cumulatively, bring any influence to bear upon this situation? That is, if we even care to at all. How about an all out ban on poor quality american pussy…a la dolphin free tuna? Unless a woman can prove that she knows what the fuck shes doing she can be blacklisted. Hahaha.

Ultimately, only the wholesale exodus of quality men from the US for greener pastures will have any effect on the behavior of the american woman and the continuing re-education that sites like yours and Roissy’s offer.

fight on

25 nguyenimproved
September 12th, 2011 @ 2:34 pm

roosh is spot on.

the only people who would disagree are people who haven’t left the confines of the US/ Australia/ Canada etc. (and with cheap airfares these days there’s no excuse not to)

i wonder if immigrants/ ethnics have a clearer view of the failings of their adopted western homelands.
cos most americans are really patriotic it’s a surprise roosh has such a clear view of the USA’s failings.

26 Wolf
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:24 pm

Our culture has given women permission to act like men and men (in response) permission to act like cads. In truth, Western Culture also poisons the men, by punishing men for acting like ‘gentlemen’. We (PUAs and women) laugh now at guys who romance a woman but that stuff used to work, when women were feminine and rewarded a man for being a gentleman. Now our society punishes those behaviors and amply rewards the cads. So be it.

27 Roosh
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:26 pm

While American men have issues as well, I like to think that sites like mine are helping to rectify weaknesses they want to fix. Thankfully a large percentage of men are open to de-programming themselves from what Western culture has taught them. I don’t see that same openness to learn coming from women. In fact I see the opposite: they not only shut themselves out from differing viewpoints but they attack it as if their lives depended on it.

28 Anon
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:34 pm

1. Are non-Anglo women poisoned by living in the Anglo-sphere? Or are the women, who choose to leave their home countries & live in the Anglo-sphere, already fucked up?

2. I was at a public gathering and observed a ton of couples with babies. 75% of the women were huge fatties, while most of the husbands were of normal weight.

What depths of desperation have American men fallen to that they would marry & mount such behemoths? I wonder what foreign guys think when they see American men with humongous, fat wives.

29 Roosh
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:44 pm

“1. Are non-Anglo women poisoned by living in the Anglo-sphere? Or are the women, who choose to leave their home countries & live in the Anglo-sphere, already fucked up?”

Great point. I gave this some thought and definitely believe that over-ambition in women to leave their countries make them more likely to be strongly affected by Western disease, sort of like how some races of people are more prone to certain diseases. If a girl is already showing some signs of Western disease before she lands in America, then she will be affected faster and more profoundly than a girl who isn’t showing signs.

If the most feminine girl in the world steps in America, she may be able to last even 6 months before being affected too much. But for the girl who made it her life mission to get to the States… maybe only 2 months will pass until you see changes that cause you to declare the patient dead.

30 Cliff Arroyo
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:48 pm

“I don’t see that same openness to learn coming from women”

Why would you? Your particular preference for female behavior leaves them helpless to cads who use and discard them. I honestly don’t see a whole lot of women being down with climbing on that particular bandwagon.

There could only be a widespread return to gentle, feminine behavior when there is a return to widespread censure of caddish behavior (up to and including violence against cads who bed and disgard women foolish enough to believe them).

Poland has never been a very prudish country (pre-marital sex has been the norm and tacitly accepted since about forever) but by the same token they’ve never been down with one night stands or one month affairs. Every western guy who takes advantage of the traditional system there is pushing the feminist agenda whether he realizes it or not.

31 samseau
September 12th, 2011 @ 3:57 pm

“While American men have issues as well, I like to think that sites like mine are helping to rectify weaknesses they want to fix. Thankfully a large percentage of men are open to de-programming themselves from what Western culture has taught them. I don’t see that same openness to learn coming from women. In fact I see the opposite: they not only shut themselves out from differing viewpoints but they attack it as if their lives depended on it.”

Although true, I know tons of betas who would viciously attack sites like this. Betas who idolize girls, who only do monogamous, who shun the free-wheeling lifestyle of fucking lots of different women, betas who doubt you when you say you bang new girls all the time.

The greatest evidence of these betas is how women are still acting like cunts. Imagine if all men practiced game religiously; women would change their attitudes in a second. But American women know there’s always another beta bitch waiting for them, so they never improve.

In environment likes Washington D.C., where the pink glove of feminism is always covering the iron fist of P.C.-platitudes, women are especially brazen as men cannot use game reliably without the risk of being fired or ostracized.

The guy who wrote “The Misandry Bubble” said that no more than 20% of men can understand, let alone practice, game, and this number seems to reflect my experience as well.

32 samseau
September 12th, 2011 @ 4:04 pm

“Why would you? Your particular preference for female behavior leaves them helpless to cads who use and discard them. I honestly don’t see a whole lot of women being down with climbing on that particular bandwagon.”

Cads RIGHT NOW are using and discarding women. Like how I walk out of a girl’s room after banging her without ever asking for her number. And I only get away with this shit because women think they are “empowered”, when in fact they are spoiled, cunty bitches who don’t know the first thing about attracting and keeping a man.

If women behaved as Roosh described, then young men would be getting married as their first love would most likely be their first marriage.

Instead women toss aside their lovesick beta’s, because they are vain and believe they will do “better” down the road.

33 Cliff Arroyo
September 12th, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

But if women who know about how to attract and keep a man (in their culture) find themselves used and discarded by cads (first foreign and then their own men who think the foreign cads or onto something) they’re going to toughen up.

The most fertile ground for feminism is traditional women who’ve been done wrong.

34 magnificent224
September 12th, 2011 @ 5:21 pm

Ok were do I start? I have been reading Roosh blog for a minute, I downloaded his Game book not only for jokes but also to see if my conclusion and analyzation about the so called ” modern women” was in line with my own views. Now guys and girls, understand that all these male and females interaction that have been so distorted in our ”modern” civilization is all, by design. This is on purpose from the top, again and again reinforced by the movies we see, the music, books etc, etc…

This i will reiterate is simply no accident. Man are not respected, disrespected portrayed as weak suckers, do you remember the last comedy you have seen? Was the man not a bumbling fool? The woman either extremely smart (the heroine that is) and were here friends not a collection of stupid bitchy sluts? The Roosh web page and post is only a symptom of the larger disease. The people who create and run the culture, called the ”culture creators” are not happy with men and women getting along divided people are always easier to control and this include the various ”izzims” racism, sexism, etc Do people not wonder how behaviour that has been with us for thousands of years have been changed in a couple of years of so called ”feminism” that was C.I.A backed the editor of Ms magazine admits??? Like i tell my older sister all the time (I have three) this is by design, not by chance, true feminism i always tell her would be a women that not only loves her man and supports him understands that he is the king and that she is the queen and that we both are powerful expression of the creator but that we express our power in different ways.

A man has his nature and a woman also has her own nature, I also tell her that now there really is no difference with a woman now and a man in the sense that woman are now so mainly that man are not interested in staying with them, sleeping with them yes, but not being a life long time partner. If we just take the example of the court system when it comes to divorce and how your assets are stripped from you for being a male, (again by design of course) the modern male gets the very clear message that he is not to be powerful, strong, assertive and the leader of his household. We are disjointed and separated by design, its unfortunate but its not by ”accident” as for me I am very honest with myself, I need a real women that knows i want her to take care of me and pamper me, that she has responsibility towards me as her husband and I have responsibility towards her as well, but it most be understood that am not there to be her sucker etc, Its about respect and the whole chabang and i am in now way naive I know the chances of me finding a woman in North America are almost slim to nun, and if I bring her to North America the jealous Jenny Jones and Oprah loving women will pollute her, so were ever i find her thats were she is staying period.

Easy…..

35 Jase
September 12th, 2011 @ 5:56 pm

I work with lots of young women, I do not enjoy it. There is one nice eastern european girl who is extremely femine, smiles, she brings in cakes gets us coffee I feel relaxed to be around her. When I walk up to the other girls at work it feels like going into battle.

The thing is I take these women down regularly and they start smiling and giggling but no shit a couple of hours later they are back to acting like men again!

36 Marco
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:02 pm

“While American men have issues as well, I like to think that sites like mine are helping to rectify weaknesses they want to fix. Thankfully a large percentage of men are open to de-programming themselves from what Western culture has taught them. I don’t see that same openness to learn coming from women. In fact I see the opposite: they not only shut themselves out from differing viewpoints but they attack it as if their lives depended on it.”

A good point, but that brings us back to:

‘Why fat girls are in no rush to lose weight (pic) http://ow.ly/6rj6c (updated image link)’

37 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:12 pm

I mean, I usually just walk away and enjoy myself but it might be nice to have something effective to throw back.

Just be direct: “You’re not cute enough to be such a cunt. Enjoy your old age alone.” With a smirk. Turn, depart.

38 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:14 pm

‘Why fat girls are in no rush to lose weight (pic) http://ow.ly/6rj6c (updated image link)’

That photo makes me want to die.

39 magnificent224
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:15 pm

Marco am sorry what was that unnatractive pig you just posted? She literally is scary, and who is the sucker behind her that looks like he is trying to get with that and as well all know probably trying to validate her feelings and give her compliments, and the shocking thing is that he looks like he can probably get women as he seems good looking what is wrong with us man??? Oh yeah I remember now we have been brain washed by this culture, to think we only deserve a woman that has a pulse and that should really be enough……. No wonder am in my thirties and still single, if settling for that girl is bliss i prefer to stay a player or stay single huuuhh!!!

40 Sam Spade
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

American women confuse ambition and independence with masculinity.

41 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:19 pm

Americans, in a general way, want sanitized, pre-approved sameness.

Vote Taliban.

42 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:25 pm

I think French Canada may be an exception. God damn I need to travel.

Anglo / Germanic girls = feminist whores in denial
Quebecois girls = sexually aggressive feminist whores in denial

Have fun spending $6 for a fucking croissant.

43 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:28 pm

40 years under Soviet rule will make you think twice about letting the welfare state get too out of control.

Under Soviet rule, men did not have this much trouble finding work and wives. Perhaps you ought to read a social history of Soviet Russia, or talk to a a few dedushkas & babushkas in New York or Vancouver. They’ll tell you.

Part of the poisonous Western narrative is the denigration of social life in the USSR.

44 DTA
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:29 pm

I dated an au pair from the Czech Republic 5 years ago. She was on her first visit to the US, and she was everything that everyone says is good about Eastern European women. She was smart, interesting, and had a gorgeous body. She went back eventually and we drifted apart. I sincerely missed this girl.

Fast forward to 5 years later (2011), and she gets in touch with me via myspace and says she is back in my area. She had been living in the US on and off since she left 5 years ago but never in the area I was in. We met up and I could not believe how much she had physically changed. She was drenched in fake tanner, meth-thin, and glued to her iPhone. Her attitude had changed into this antagonistic, bitchy demeanor and she’d play so many annoying games (taking weeks to text back, deleting me off facebook/then re-adding me like every other day, WTF?).

Long story short, I texted her to basically “fuck off” and that was it. This absolutely awesome, gorgeous girl is now a worthless, Americanized nitwit. I hope she gets chewn up and spit out by the porn industry and develops a drug habit.

45 Anonymous
September 12th, 2011 @ 6:46 pm

Girls who are quick to spread their legs for cads aren’t what I’d call “traditional”.

46 Timothy
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:17 pm

The crazy thing is American women think THEY’RE the cream of the world, and can’t wait to get in the ears of women from the rest of the world when they come here and convince them to be somehow less attentive to their men. That somehow if you make your man a sandwich and something to drink when he’s hungry, you’re being treated like a servant. And heaven help you if you actually give your man a blowjob, or sex when HE wants it after he marries you…

47 magnificent224
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:21 pm

Amen to that brother Amen to that!!!!

48 samseau
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:22 pm

Cliff:

“But if women who know about how to attract and keep a man (in their culture) find themselves used and discarded by cads (first foreign and then their own men who think the foreign cads or onto something) they’re going to toughen up.”

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzztttttttt INCORRECT ANSWER

Who has more power in the sexual marketplace? MEN OR WOMEN?

In the age group of 18-21 year olds, who holds all the cards? MEN OR WOMEN?

Who gets dumped in 85% of cases? The MAN or the WOMAN?

WOMEN have dug their own grave. Stop defending their actions. THEY WANT TO FUCK CADS, don’t you get it? Stop justifying their behavior, you tool.

When feminism first popped into mainstream America, there was no “game”. Very few men pumped and dumped their way through the newly liberated female masses.

And yet, today, women chase the cads and pick-up artists because that’s what turns them on and gets their rocks off.

So I’ll repeat the original statement I made before:

If women behaved as Roosh described, there would be less cads and men learning game and there would be more happy marriages.

The women themselves would be happier people, content with serving their man, and the men, served by a loyal wife, would return the favor as 95% of men reward loyalty with love and affection.

49 S
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:27 pm

At: Jordan

I find the reference to the black dress interesting. In North America men seem to like more feminine clothing such as dresses, skirts, and high heels. However, each time I go to Medellin (my boyfriend has family there), he really doesn’t like that I dress like that.

Instead he prefers tight jeans with a simple t-shirt, running shoes and with the hair tied in a ponytail (which I usually think is only to hide ugly hair, and I don’t like sneakers). A few times he asked me to change when he saw that I was putting a dress on, which I thought was really strange. It took me a few times to understand that he didn’t like dresses and skirts! That seems to be the fashion there. I rarely saw girls there wear dresses or high heels (most of the time it was only the older women that wore heels).

But maybe it’s just that he doesn’t like the attention it attracts? Men there seem to get angry if another man looks at their girl, and they don’t like if their girl looks like she’s looking for attention.

But at the same time, it says over and over again in this blog and others that Medellin girls are very feminine, etc. I think in that case it would have to be for their attitude and caracter and not their clothing? Because everybody here is so quick to say that american women don’t wear high heels, dresses, etc. so they’re not feminine.

In that case, you would have to say that the way you dress is not that important (as long as it still looks nice, just no really feminine things)? Or maybe it’s just cultural for north americans especially to like that style? Or could it just be that for real, South Americans like that, they just don’t like the attention it attracts? What do you think?

50 Timothy
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:37 pm

@49 S…that’s an interesting observation. I actually like that look on women – hair pulled back, in a t-shirt and jeans, natural and relaxed. When I first lay eyes on a woman, I like to see her in a more casual state and not dressed up because I want to know what she REALLY looks like, and if I’m attracted to her in THAT state, I know she’s truly attractive. I do want to see her in dresses and skirts occasionally though. I think American women have lost touch with true femininity, but more in behavior and action than in dress.

51 magnificent224
September 12th, 2011 @ 7:39 pm

Way I see it men have to stop being simple simps, and they have to stop ”hoping” there women will start treating them as they deserve, you are a valuable men conducted yourself as such. Its how you treat what ever women you are with, even in this man hating propaganda filled western world.If your girl those not give you want you want and insist on trying to emasculate you and try to cut off your balls, move on and find a women who know what you are which is gold. Believe me I know its hard, since most of these women have been told by this society that men arent shit and that her pussy literally produces gold bouillons, but if you can’t re-educate her and yourself your doomed and I would suggest you move on to another women until you find one that is not as pollutated as most of them are in these western countries. Remember gentlemen, you do not get what you deserve in life you get what you negotiate

That simple.

52 El Indulto
September 12th, 2011 @ 8:42 pm

“Vote Taliban.”

Why would anyone do that when they can vote Republican or Democrat and get something equally if not more worthless.

:american:

53 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:31 pm

I don’t know how anyone formed the idea that Colombian women are “more feminine”. Wait, let’s put it this way: Why is wearing tight jeans with red stilettos, gaudy jewelry, ugly little sleeveless shirts with sequins and collars, a thick layer of makeup, and nattering at decibels well above what can be tolerated by intelligent men about absolutely nothing deeper than baila baila and mami-this-mami-that — considered fucking FEMININE? Colombian girls are blueballing freak manipulators in their own manner. And the reward is nowhere near as great as scoring white girls in our latitudes. Colombians are mostly flat-chested with repulsive, negroid buttocks. When they’re thin they’re too thin. Has anyone ever seen a naturally busty Colombian woman? No. They scarcely exist. Hence the popularity of implants down there.

Waste of time and money like everything else in 2011 Greater Judaea.

54 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:36 pm

What we all need is a guide to how to score with Argentine / Uruguayan girls. To start: Be some sort of Mediterranid or Armenid type, like Roosh. You won’t be so conspicuous. Affect a bit of the rioplatense lilt and pronunciation. Don’t be afraid to shhh your ll’s. There are tons of indie chicks in Argentina, so check out Argentine rock bands. I knew an American negro in Buenos Aires who scored that way — sorry for the ugly imagery. Drink a lot. Smoke some, per G Manifesto. Definitely smoke ganja, cunts are crazy about it there. Know about futbol, but don’t profess to LOVE it unless prompted. The rest is general game. Harder to bag an Argentine, but it’s worth the effort because in reality they’re north Italian beauties, not loudmouthed brownie mutts in heels.

55 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:40 pm

Also, they are still more inclined to marry and produce young, at less cost. Montevideo girls are like girls you see in northern Spain, France and Italy. Same cost, same language, less ground to cover and far more familiar to a white man culturally.

56 aryan antihero
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:41 pm

“Why would anyone do that when they can vote Republican or Democrat and get something equally if not more worthless.”

I like to daydream. Of a society in which women are firmly under our control. Do you blame me?

57 KK
September 12th, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

Aryan, so son, how many colombian girls did reject you? So much bitterness, mad bro?

58 magnificent224
September 12th, 2011 @ 11:58 pm

My advice to you Mr Aryan (cause you sound like your in it just for the game not feelings) never take things personal when your just gaming when women are involved the more you give a fuck te more you will sound bitter just like the way your sounding now, if your lacking game brush up on it and hate the game not the ladies playing it, cause if you are armed with the right tools its just in exercised like doing set ups.

59 Tom Lemon
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:04 am

I have to disagree a bit.

Roosh wrote:
“Western cultures cause direct negative harm to a woman’s feminine vibe and allure”

Personally I think it would be more accurate to say:
Western cultures cause direct negative harm to a woman’s ability to be a decent human being.”

The reality is, the behavior you so accurately describe isn’t just a loss of femininity or allure, it’s just generally vile and mean behavior.

Feminism teaches women to be rotten to people.

They are even shittier to each other than they are to men.

60 Me
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:14 am

Ok,

I have a simple question. Are ya’ll talking about all races of american women or just white american women?

61 Timothy
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:15 am

“They are even shittier to each other than they are to men.”

I point this out to women at every opportunity, and tell them that men take note of this when assessing their character. To the more important overall point you make, that women have become flat-out meanspirited bitches…to EVERYONE.

62 magnificent224
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:27 am

Yes agreed society period, women and men have become a more cold and selfish society.

63 Squared
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:30 am

“I think French Canada may be an exception.”

It’s not.

64 dragnet
September 13th, 2011 @ 5:34 am

Good post.

I tackled this very same point over at Roissy’s a while ago:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/she-wants-you-to-help-her-be-less-independent/#comment-240396

65 Cliff Arroyo
September 13th, 2011 @ 8:20 am

“WOMEN have dug their own grave. Stop defending their actions.”

Say what? How am I defending them? I’m saying that you can’t half old fashioned femininity without old fashioned masculinity (and pua-dom isn’t that).

“THEY WANT TO FUCK CADS, don’t you get it?”

American women do. Polish women (most of them) want a steady boyfriend or two (not too many and not simultaneously) until one of them turns into a husband and father.

Roosh himself wrote that after sex they want a relationship.
Treating them like American women (in relationship terms) means they’ll start acting like them. Tourism always corrupts what it seeks to find.

66 Roosh
September 13th, 2011 @ 9:24 am

Cliff: You are one of the biggest white knights in the blogosphere. You were in Lady Raine’s dungeon commenting regularly and supporting that insane woman’s blog more than any other guy.

You’re trying to come across as an authority on Polish women but it’s obvious to me you only have experience with older Polish women. The younger ones are just as slutty as any Western girl.

67 Anonymous
September 13th, 2011 @ 9:36 am

Roosh, you need to do a post on why Western men are pussified, too.

What the hell happened to winning wars, vanquishing our enemies and making off with his women and plunder, enslaving his children and wiping his seed off the face of the earth?

shit, that’s how the West got great – why the hell are we so intent on turning our backs on the key to our success?

68 Cliff Arroyo
September 13th, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

Insane people can be entertaining as long as you remember they’re insane.

If younger Polish girls are turning into sluts (sadly most signs do point to ‘yes’) then the whole feminine tender thing will also disappear and that would be a shame.

69 mr detroit
September 13th, 2011 @ 1:12 pm

Hollywood is run by gays and lesbians who run all TV shows, movies, magazines and books…………….They make women feel like they don’t need men and they should not have sex with men unless he spends money on her and takes her on dates and all that other garbage……..Gay men in Hollywood teach women to hate men so the men will single for just them……..men in America act like women and the women are the men…………soon everyone in America will be gay……….good luck guys dealing with women are becoming men and all you guys will act like women just to get laid…………

70 Anon
September 13th, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

“Roosh, you need to do a post on why Western men are pussified, too. What the hell happened to winning wars, vanquishing our enemies and making off with his women and plunder, enslaving his children and wiping his seed off the face of the earth? shit, that’s how the West got great”

Dude, you’re talking about Genghis Khan shit.

White men mostly enslaved OTHER white men throughout most of history. Recently, white men killed some indigenous Americans, and then enslaved Africans.

As for enslaving Africans, you think that worked out? It just led to white men killing more white men. Plus, it ain’t exactly white men plundering black women.

You could say western culture is just white men using any means, including feminism, to fuck over other white men.

71 Anon
September 13th, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

“Hollywood is run by gays and lesbians who run all TV shows, movies, magazines and books…………….They make women feel like they don’t need men and they should not have sex with men unless he spends money on her”

Nah, gays don’t care about money. They’re all about fucking. Seriously, gays get laid more than anyone and with less effort than any female hottie. That’s why they’re “gay”.

It’s the Jews in power, and their money grubbing culture that infects the media. And the feminists in academia are majority Jew bitches.

72 Anonymous
September 13th, 2011 @ 2:26 pm

For some strange reason, men like to insult women by calling them sluts. This is a horribly ill-advised policy; by making sluttiness something shameful, all sorts of libido-blazing women are refraining from casual sexual encounters with strangers. And we wouldn’t want that, would we? So knock it off guys—the next would-be slut you mock might keep her knees clenched at the next office party when I hit on her. Stop ruining it for the rest of us!

Now that we’ve settled slut-bashing, let’s move on to slut-evaluation. We all know that sluts are a lot of fun… but how do you identify the slut from the prude or the cock-tease? At nightclubs and pickup bars, a guy could throw hundreds of dollars down the crapper by buying flowers and drinks for a prude and get nowhere—but just one shot of tequila could induce a slut to strip naked and hop into the backseat of your 1979 Trans Am. Quickly identifying sluts is not only desirable; it’s financially essential—particularly in today’s troubled economic times. An inaccurate diagnostic evaluation of slutdom costs time and money.

Fortunately for you able-bodied blokes out there, the research wing of the Last Story media empire has devoted a great deal of our resources to studying the intricacies of slutdom. And we’ve developed some quick hit-lists that can help guys (and gals, who might be bi or gay) spot a slut almost immediately. Simply print out the bottom half of this article and carry it with you the next time you’re at a nightclub—and consult as needed.

Slut Hint One: Watch the Eyes, Not the Clothes

It’s a well know fact that sluts wear tight, skimpy outfits. Unfortunately, so do virginal cock-teases. So rather than flocking to the shortest skirt in the nightclub, it’s crucial to examine the eyes of each woman—even when that means you must stop staring at her tits for half-a-second. A virginal cock-tease will watch your mouth when you talk, listening to each word and hoping to make witty, flirtatious comments. A true slut won’t hang on every syllable coming out of your mouth. She will, however, stare at your eyes, your arms and your… ahem, other parts.

Slut Hint Two: Watch the Bar, Not the Dance Floor

Chics that go to church every Sunday, wear white cotton panties, and wouldn’t DARE kiss on the first date will dash over to the dance floor and gyrate in a decidedly sexual nature. Folks, this is nothing but a faade—a vicious attempt to mimic sluthood. True sluts aren’t dancing in the middle of a nightclub with their female friends! They’re hanging out by the bar, sucking down booze, and enjoying male attention. The only dancing most sluts do is when they waltz down to the clinic to wipe out a pesky case of V.D.

Slut Hint Three: Watch the Guys, Not the Girls

Do you see four or more girls dancing and chatting amongst themselves? Well, leave ‘em alone! There’s not a slut in that group. Most women don’t like sluts and shun them from inclusion. Guys, on the other hand, dig sluts and will happily accompany ‘em out on the town. If you see one girl talking to three or more guys, there’s a fairly good chance she’s a slut. ‘Course, there’s also a fairly good chance she’s the girlfriend of one of those guys, so tread carefully, lest your face get punched.

Slut Hint Four: Watch the Lips, Not the Eyes

Good girls treat their face like it’s a work of art. And eyes, described by effeminate poets as “windows to our souls” get special attention. Sluts might apply a dash of eyeliner but generally pay much more attention to their lips. Do you know why? Lips are primary sexual features; eyes are secondary. In fact, lipstick was first used by prostitutes during the era of the Roman Empire in an effort to make their mouths look like vaginas. Bright red lips at a nightclub should definitely get your Spidey Sense tingling.

Slut Hint Five: Watch the Arguments, Not the Tranquility

When goody-goodies converge, there’s usually tranquility. Everyone giggles and makes catty comments in a happy little clique—without a care in the world! But when a slut enters their sheltered little existence, all sorts of fireworks ignite. Goody-goodies and sluts cannot coexist in harmony; sluts view goody-goodies as naeve and spoiled while goody-goodies view sluts as boyfriend-stealers and immoral harlots. If you ever see two or more women arguing in a nightclub, chances are one of them is a slut.

Slut Hint Six: Watch the Piercings, Not the Makeup

It’s an unfortunate fact that goody-goodies and cock-teases plaster on as much makeup as many sluts. So how can you identify the different groups? Body piercings! Particularly any piercings of the tongue. Folks, do you know why women (and men) get studs drilled into their tongues? It’s to enhance fellatio. The feel of the cold metal stud on your penis increases the pleasure derived from oral sex. And this spells slutdom more than anything: Any woman willing to mutilate her body in the hopes of marginally enhancing the sexual pleasure of her partner is 99% likely to be a harcore slut. Nipple rings and clitoral piercings are also indicative of sluttiness… but by the time you’re in a position to see a nipple or clit ring, chances are you’ve already figured out she’s a slut.

Slut Hint Seven: Watch the Smoke, Not the Good Breath

Maybe it’s because of an oral fixation. Or maybe it’s because sluts are prone to high risk behavior. Either way, a higher percentage of sluts smoke than babes in the general population. If you see a chic with bright red lips, a shot of whiskey, and a tongue ring sucking on a Marlboro 100s, there’s a pretty good chance that she’s a slut.

Slut Hint Eight: Watch the Ink, Not the Flesh

Tattoos have gone mainstream; even Yuppie bankers are getting aboriginal art etched on their bodies. But still—a tattoo can be a key indicator of sluttiness. Particularly if it’s located along a rather tantalizing part of the anatomy. I know what you’re thinking: “Well, if she has a yin-yang tattooed on her ass cheek, how am I gonna find out about it at the nightclub?” Relax! Sluts are proud of all their bodily modifications. If you ask a slut if she has a tattoo, not only will she answer honestly—she’ll probably offer to show it to you. Sluts aren’t shy.

Slut Hint Nine: Watch the Tips, Not the Jiggle

A common rookie mistake when slut-watching is to stare like a pervert in need of Ritalin at any chic who walks by in a low-cut top that bares some cleavage. Remember: Cleavage alone does not mean slutdom! A good number of Preacher’s daughters and Young Republicans enjoy hitting the nightclubs, jiggling some cleavage, and teasing the boys. The true test of wanton sluthood lies a few inches below her cleavage. Sluts, you see, enjoy sex and lack sufficient moral fiber to turn down a romp in the sheets. The thought of sex excites them. So their nipples get hard! Sometimes their nipples get so hard, they can even be seen through a flannel shirt and a winter coat. If her two “girls” point at you—and you’re not located atop an Alaskan balcony—you’ve got a shot at pointing something of your back at her own later that night.

Slut Hint Ten: Watch the Hands, Not the T&A

I know, I know: When a woman walks by in a miniskirt and a tight blouse, your first instinct is to stare at her tits. And then, as she walks away, your second instinct is to stare at her ass. Refrain from these impulses, young Grasshopper! Since miniskirts and tight blouses are also wildly popular with prudes and cock-teases, they cannot be considered reliable indicators of slutdom. In fact, big breasts and a shapely ass are traits shared equally between sluts and nonsluts alike. So what’s a man to do? Check out her hands! Whenever a male chats with a prude, the prude tends to keep her hands by her side. But whenever a male saddle-up to a slut, her hands suddenly become nomadic wanderers of the African Sahara. It’s almost as if she can’t stop touching your arm and your chest while talking to you! This makes sense; people who like sex enjoy physical contact. And really, this might be the most telling indicator of slutdom: A chic with tattoos, cigarettes, red lips, a bellybutton ring, and a shot of whiskey who keeps her hands by her hips while conversing with a stranger is probably a SLUT POSER. But a babe who can’t stop touching you while yakking—even if she’s not wearing any makeup and her highlights aren’t on—just might be a slut. Either way, you should definitely offer to buy her a drink.

Cheers

73 MeWantHoneyComb
September 13th, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

If (or more acuurately, when) I go back to college, I intend to go concentrate on getting a Comp-Sci or engineering degree, because these days, “STEM” are the only feasible options to get a job overseas.

The problem for many of us is that the American college system only gives the average student four years to pick what they are going to be stuck doing for 40 years, and most college career advisors (and the college system in general) shoves “business/marketing/management” down the throats of students, instead of the “STEM” degrees that are the real deal. and if some feminist cunt or ghetto hoodrat gives you shit for having what the American society calls “nerdy degrees/jobs,” just get your company to transfer you overseas where they have their heads straight and doesnt equate intellignece with nerdiness or betaness.

PS: Glad to have you back. I was getting tired of dealing with roissy’s “we hate white feminist princesses but damn any n*ggers who touch those same women” crowd.

74 Anonymous
September 13th, 2011 @ 3:15 pm

Ha nice idiocracy reference

75 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 3:50 pm

“Aryan, so son, how many colombian girls did reject you? So much bitterness, mad bro?”

Oh no, not *another* pop kulchur black joke.

Bitterness is a relevant measure of the absurd difficulty of actually banging those tarts. I’m not the first to say Colombian girls are absurdly fickle and ill-endowed. I wouldn’t say the same of Dominican girls, who often exhibit a level of frank lustiness that is non-pareil. Or Chilean girls whom I’ve pulled off the street after asking for a damn cigarette.

I reserve my bitterness for cunts who throw ad homines like that at their fellow men.

76 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

“PS: Glad to have you back. I was getting tired of dealing with roissy’s “we hate white feminist princesses but damn any n*ggers who touch those same women” crowd.”

Life is full of fucking contradictions, isn’t it. Our women are whores yet we still feel the tug of racial belonging and are aggrieved when women of our race sin against it.

We’re just such damn jackasses for not celebrating the “outsourcing” of our future as a people.

ps- Totally agree abt STEM. America’s religion is marketing; Asia’s is tech. Who will win this meeting of the minds???

77 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 3:55 pm

A+ for #71

78 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 4:01 pm

LOL A++ for #70

Our biggest enemy is ever ourselves.

One thing I *am* truly bitter about: I could never do well in the technical subjects — how could I with bursting barely clad pubescent tits surrounding me in class?! — so I never did well in university, and will never have the sort of job that will land me overseas someplace. For that, if anything, is the only way to make a life for oneself on the traditional model.

Another thing: Eastern European women may yet have some charm, but they’re no longer good wife material. Western poison is nearly everywhere. They’re all would-be strumpets just aching to don bright red lipstick and tacky handbags. If you actually, really, sincerely would like a WIFE and FAMILY — don’t fucking laugh now — go to a Central Asian state like Afghanistan where women (defined as 14 & up!) have an avg of FOUR to cover the mortality rate. Once you’ve nabbed your bride, move to Tajikistan where life is peaceful and the state meets extremism with a strong hand.

I’m totally serial!!!!!@#@

79 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 4:10 pm

“I have a simple question. Are ya’ll talking about all races of american women or just white american women?”

White — you know, “heirloom American”. Black women don’t count here because insomuch as they are interested in white men, they depart from the black female norm, who are not interested in white men.

80 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

“The reality is, the behavior you so accurately describe isn’t just a loss of femininity or allure, it’s just generally vile and mean behavior.”

It’s all of that. We’re a race raised on television and tabloids. Our national culture is filth, mendacity, ironic signalling and moralism. Hollywood films people going to far-flung regions to live among real people. Julia Roberts goes to Mongolia and drinks fermented yak piss. Once upon a time Anglos looked down on Jews and Hindus for imprinting their children with ritual chants of dogma as inferior education; today Anglos in California teach their children fisting and anus-ripping is acceptable behavior.

This is us. Forty-nine of every fifty women you encounter in the kwa will say they support abortion and homosexuality in public schools. Forty of them will possess or have used a big neon rubber thing called a “dildo”.

This is us. And it won’t get better.

81 Bortimus
September 13th, 2011 @ 4:38 pm

Here’s some blog fodder for you Roosh:

http://www.slate.com/id/2303488/

http://www.slate.com/id/2303759

It would appear that everyone’s favorite Slate gender warrior is back, Hanna Rosinblayvenzionstein. If you care to recall, she’s the one that had her son and daughter debate each other over which gender was better and posted it online. Of course her son, being much younger, was incapable of forming a cogent argument and was thus declared the loser of the debate, most likely also cementing the income of several therapists for years to come.

82 Timothy
September 13th, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

@81 Bortimus…it’s one thing for the culture at large to devalue men, but it’s child abuse for a woman to do that to her own son. To build up a daughter at the expense of a son. Hateful bitch.

83 Squared
September 13th, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

“One thing I *am* truly bitter about: I could never do well in the technical subjects — how could I with bursting barely clad pubescent tits surrounding me in class?! — so I never did well in university, and will never have the sort of job that will land me overseas someplace.”

ROFL, thanks for that, I was beginning to think I was the only one.

The decline in my personal school ‘career’ correlates perfectly with the onset of puberty. And I’ll always maintain with dead seriousness that without all of these hot teenage bitches sexually harassing me everyday via their mere presence, I would have done much, MUCH better.

84 aryan antihero
September 13th, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

Amen. I remember one day, perhaps my third year of ALGEBRA I (there were four [not counting two in college]), looking down at a word problem, just beginning to peer through its elaborate mysteries — then looking up to find the ample bosom of the sleazy whigger chick in front of me almost tumbling out of her obscenely low-cut v-neck onto my desk. There it was … huge, jiggling, undeniable. Math class exists in my mind as a dreamlike blur of dancing symbols and bouncing tits.

Have you not also found that telling people this elicits nothing but dumb incomprehension if not strenuous denial? “You’re just making an excuse!” Etc.

85 Camelot007
September 13th, 2011 @ 8:49 pm

Got to agree with Aryan here:
French quebecoise girls are as bad if not worse then american girls. Their guys have totaly been emasculated and starting from the generation of their mothers, they are all very unfeminine ballbusters

86 Anonymous
September 13th, 2011 @ 10:30 pm

Although this has some validity, I think eastern cultures are equally as shitty. The women tend to be shy off the bat, they tend to be not too adventurous and have these weird concepts of being friends before relationship, getting to know for a long time etc. Dont search for the right culture and countries of girls, just go ahead with what makes you happy

87 Squared
September 13th, 2011 @ 11:20 pm

“French quebecoise girls are as bad if not worse then american girls. Their guys have totaly been emasculated and starting from the generation of their mothers, they are all very unfeminine ballbusters”

Yep. This part of the blogosphere gets quite a bit of things right, but the Quebec women myth that keeps getting paraded around is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever read. Seriously, it’s time to put it to rest.

88 Camelot007
September 13th, 2011 @ 11:46 pm

@Squared

It’s funny that being someone who lives in Montreal, I find other North American girls such as those from New york, Toronto, Las Vegas and LA refreshing and easy going. I always have a much easier time in those cities than here. I’ve only gotten attitude from one girl in Vegas other than that, they may waste your time but I find them much frendlier than girls in Montreal… And the bad attitude is not limited to the quebecoise, girls from other origins who are born in montreal are bad too. There are lots of slutty girls here, just not very feminine. Divorce rates are sky high here and single moms are all over the place, perfect for pump and dump

89 Squared
September 14th, 2011 @ 12:23 am

Been living in the Montreal area my entire life myself, and I’ve drawn exactly the same conclusions as you have. While it’s true that the girls here are hot, they only respond to the assholiest of asshole badboy game… and even then.

High divorce rates, single moms and their bastard spawn everywhere, and lets not forget a BOOMING prostitution industry. What does that tell you? This city/province certainly isn’t a paragon of relationship health between men and women.

90 DoesNotMatter
September 14th, 2011 @ 4:18 am

This is total bullshit. I am an Indian guy and I’ve gamed around the world as have my friends. I find better results with American women than with latin women or with asian women or even with EE women. And I also find american women friendlier than these other so called “feminine women”. I’ve also seen American “white” guys game in the US as well as these locales with their “feminine women”. The fact is that all these latin/asian/EE women turn into a giggly mess when a white American male comes to talk to them where as an American woman demands that they run game on her. American white boys find this whole running game thing very tedious and too much a stress on their delicate frames. so they conclude that that giggly mess is way more feminine than the “demanding shrew” back home. This conclusion is only natural for that this their experience. The indian guy experience is that women all over the world demand we run game on them. No girl turns into a giggly mess based off of an approach from an indian male. They all demand that I run game. American women will however give me little more of a chance than Asian/latin/EE women. Thus this whole post reeks of a spoilt US male complaining over the tedium of running game all the time. Welcome to my world buddy. No woman of any race will turn into a giggly mess merely based off of my approach. I have to run game on them all. So to me, the conclusions of this post are incorrect. From my perspective, US women are no more or no less spoilt than women from other countries

91 aryan antihero
September 14th, 2011 @ 10:22 am

High divorce rates, single moms and their bastard spawn everywhere, and lets not forget a BOOMING prostitution industry.

Some of the very oddest porn I’ve seen came out of French Canada. I won’t name names, but if anyone is familiar, they’ll know what I mean.

This isn’t a mystery — they’re closer to Europe in the grand scheme of our phenotype, which just means they think they’re better than us. Prostitution: check, snobbery: check, exclusivity: check, $5 for a doughnut: check. I paid less for a whole woman in Guatemala back in ’04.

It’s funny that being someone who lives in Montreal, I find other North American girls such as those from New york, Toronto, Las Vegas and LA refreshing and easy going.

This is true, not only your perception. Girls from the Anglosphere, difficult as they may be to lay sometimes, and impossible as they are as mates, are more down to earth than most European girls. I will temper my criticism of les Québécoises by saying some of the most amenable girls I’ve ever met were from Anglo Canada — BC in particular. One can often speak with them as one human to another, not, as in Kwa, as a human to something just above cretinous with tangles of attitude to dodge. Moreover friends of mine have had similar good fortune just connecting to them as human beings. This is obviously due to Canada’s insulation from Kwa, despite their wholesale of adoption of ruinous leftist social policies.

92 aryan antihero
September 14th, 2011 @ 10:39 am

so they conclude that that giggly mess is way more feminine than the “demanding shrew” back home.

Good point. I, myself, regard old leathery Yakut women in Siberia as absolutely the most feminine — caring for the young, scalding the pots, and picking the potatoes without complaint, often with song in fact. The other varieties of woman to my mind are just sad deviations from this basic division of labor once enjoyed by all the world’s peoples. In Tajikistan women have an average of three children and still make the flat bread and pick the berries, while the kids fetch water. No giggly mess, no demanding shrewry, no rouge nor miniskirt, no sweats nor UGG boots. Fancy that. As I say: Vote Taliban.

American white boys find this whole running game thing very tedious and too much a stress on their delicate frames.

Is an “Indian guy” REALLY saying white men have “delicate frames”? I hear Guyana has to fill its armed forces with niggers ’cause de coolies’ chests ain’t robust enough to qualify for service. Come to think, bhai, how many Hindoos you see in ANY armed force outside India?

They all demand that I run game. American women will however give me little more of a chance than Asian/latin/EE women.

Because they’re more deracinated. Your kind practically doesn’t exist to the other groups. Though I did once see an unbelievably hot little Russian blond bouncing along with an unbelievably nerdy Egyptian Urkel. I guess they were math grads.

From my perspective, US women are no more or no less spoilt than women from other countries

Yea, typical sub-con perspective: money. We are speaking here of culture. Wealth spoilage is but one aspect of our poisonous anti-culture.

93 Wolf
September 14th, 2011 @ 11:44 am

@DoesNotMatter (90)- Totally agree with what you’re saying. I’m a typical WASP American who has traveled a bit and winged with all ethnicities (including Indian guys) and you’re spot on. While (many) women in other countries do react well to the rare white guys it’s true, you do still need SOME game. But nowhere near as much as you do to lay American girls who demand to know why you’re special beyond your white skin.

It IS annoying to have to run game on American girls when you’ve enjoyed white privilege in other countries, but there you have it. I totally respect my Indian, Black, Peruvian, Taiwanese etc. brothers because they put in the work wherever they are. Ignore ‘Aryan Antihero’ he’s just trolling and speaking out of his ass.

94 Wolf
September 14th, 2011 @ 11:50 am

@DoesNotMatter(90)- Also, ‘skin privilege’ definitely exists. It sucks having to work hard to game even unattractive fattie American girls when you could bang way hotter girls far easier in other countries. Here you get fatness + attitude = Fattitude.

I’m sure the success Roosh is enjoying is a combination of a) tight game and b) skin privilege in Poland. Every country is different, with his dark skin he’ll do better in some countries and way worse in others. We all do. Just like he says in his 7th Law, Pickup difficulty is relative and venue dependent. Well it’s also country dependent. There’s gotta be a country where being Indian is a massive skin privilege.

95 gorss
September 14th, 2011 @ 7:35 pm

That link to the article about the “first date dress” made me puke. That girl is the ugliest horse faced buck toothed monster I have ever seen. I would rather use my right hand than let that bitch get anywhere near my dick. GROSS Ugh

96 Anonymous
September 15th, 2011 @ 1:03 am

Just came back from a Quebec trip, and the girls do come off different than in most of North America.

After meeting a few, I realized the reason is that despite acting just as entitled, and having obviously been trained to be just as femcuntish as their Anglo sisters, there is still some realization in many of them that what they are doing is not particularly attractive. Their eyes, and if you just linger and look them in the eyes somewhat accusatory long enough, their body language, starts making excuses for their bitchy fronts.

I notice the same in Scandinavia, that supposed feminist paradise. While girls have been drilled to act like empowered feminists in charge, there is still that voice in the back of their heads telling them that what they’re trying to project is not reality. Girls in US cities were like this as recently as the grungy 90s.

But now, in Big US cities, amongst many 20 something second generation feminists; even that last sliver of introspective ability is gone. Many college age or slightly older girls here, are no longer even aware that the bitch attitude they’re trying to project, is off putting. Instead being genuinely confused that “quality” guys don’t find their wisecracks, foul mouths and sexual aggressiveness, as attractive as they find those same behaviors in guys.

97 doesnotMatter
September 15th, 2011 @ 4:17 am

@wolf (93,94)….thanks for the backup bro.
@Aryan antihero…..when I meant delicate frames, I did not mean physically. I meant mentally. And I also meant it tongue in cheek. I did not mean all of them. I only meant those who praise women from other cultures at the expense of their own for reasons that do not add up or are the result of deeply held prejudices. That being said, I have only the highest repect for dead white men such as G.Washington, T.Jefferson, M. Luther et. al. Modern anglo-saxon white men are not quite the equals of those giants. while Roosh may be considered dark, it is by white standards. To me, he is still white

98 Maya
September 15th, 2011 @ 12:07 pm

“You deserve better.”

No, Roosh, you don’t.

99 DJ
September 15th, 2011 @ 2:27 pm

You guys want to meet the coldest, most entitled feminist bitches in the world, come to Toronto and spend some time with any white woman under 50 here. It’s worse than any American or British woman you will ever meet, take my word for it. The only upside is there are lots of feminist sluts who are easy. The closest women to ours I would say are New Zealand women, who are the easiest femwhores around, all it takes is selective ignoring of them and they will come on to you.

100 GP
September 15th, 2011 @ 6:47 pm

Totally agree with your article.

A good friend of mine is Polish, and when I go over to Poland I’m always amazed at how the women are thin, attractive and simply more pleasant to be with.

No tricks or games, just a sense of natural flirtatiousness. They look into your eyes, which western girls don’t do even if they like you.
Another thing I noticed was that if you start talking to a girl, her friends walk off to leave you to chat! In the UK the exact opposite happens.

101 Marcin
September 16th, 2011 @ 6:57 am

Hi,

I am a Polish male and I’m livilng in the UK. I have to say that the British women are the worst of all. Not only that hey don’t care of what they eat, how they look or what they say but most importantly they treat their men like toys, totally without respect. I don’t know who is more to blame, the women or the men who seem to have accepted the situation. If I speak to an average English chap about the female-male relations in his country he will deny that anything wrong is happening. Only those guys who lived abroad will have similar opinions to mine. Well, myself, I have lost any interest in British women, I can’t see why I would make any effort to get a noisy and disrespectful girl in England whilst I am capable of meeting beautiful and inelligent girls anytime I go to Europe. I have not been to the US, cannot comment on that, but heard from a a few guys that it is far better than in the UK. Some women would probably disagree but I think that in the UK girls are more unhappy than their European counterparts. If the natural role of a man wearing trousers shifts to women then, even if they deny, at least must be finding themselves in a unique and stressful situation… I am not any kind of chauvinist and I would like everything best for the women as without them this world would be pointless! So, Ive said what I thought was right to say! Hope others will comment.

102 Anonymous
September 16th, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

I love how American girls talk.

Like, um, yeah, and then, like you know OMG, I KNOW RIGHT

September 16th, 2011 @ 10:54 pm

[...] Roosh: “Western Culture Poisons Women“ [...]

104 Zero Dog
September 20th, 2011 @ 5:38 pm

Looks like American girls/women are completely losing it…why are they all behaving like sluts these days? I see it everywhere…in the grocery store, in the parks, in the library, on the roads and at the pump!
What is going on??
I thought you had to be over 18 and inside a NIGHT CLUB to behave like that. But now its happening all over the place.
Are we in the end times yet? Or do we still have more surprises in store from the alien race???

September 21st, 2011 @ 2:26 am

Roosh,

What you mentioned is just the icing on the cake… there are much deeper shifts that happen in a woman’s mentality when she spends a long period time in a place like the USA. In the latino community there is a saying “Las mujeres se corrumpen cuando vienen a los Estados Unidos”… Basically it translates to women get corrupted in the United States… I’ve heard the same stories of women who spend time in Canada, Spain etc… Power corrupts… These women due to various factors have more power in these places and they get corrupted. Back home in Latin America it’s a different story.

September 21st, 2011 @ 6:49 am

Almost every woman like to be treat like a bitch. If you treat them like bitch, they will fall in love with you. If you try to be a nice polite guy, woman don´t respect you. So be rude with them, be like a bad boy and treat the girls like prostitutes.

107 omega-77
September 28th, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

the last comment is spot on.
see grindhouse movie with kurt russell.
if you’re bad, crazy mofo, the girls will chase you.
women are psychic and emotional vampires. only understand the relations based on dominance-submission.

108 Phoenix
October 1st, 2011 @ 10:52 pm

I hope this doesn’t get lost into the ether.
I highly suspect that one major overlooked factor is unmarried gender ratios. The supply of either sex in a population.

I’ve noticed that most 1st world countries have about 85 unmarried women per 100 men. 15% excess unmarried men for which no *unmarried* woman exists — usually starting at around 6% excess men in the late teens early 20s, and slowly increasing to about 20-35% excess men in the early to late 30s.

I thought Canada and US’s (and Australia and Netherlands) numbers were bad.

POLAND’S NUMBERS ARE DISGUSTING:
15-19 years: 5.6% excess single men (89,813)
20-24 years: 24.4% excess single men (276,361)
25-29 years: 59.6% excess single men (266,816)
30-34 years: 80.8% excess single men (136,213)
35-39 years: 100.8% excess single men (110,372)
40-44 years: 110.3% excess single men (112,189)
….then the numbers start dropping significantly, as it does for Canada at about 50 years old and I presume the US as well.

What is the point of a woman developing charm and genuine personability when they are in high demand because they are in short supply???

109 Harry
October 6th, 2011 @ 9:52 pm

In my eyes it’s a disease that has spreaded out, like a cancer stage. I live in The Netherlands and for the last decade 80% on TV is U.S. material with subtitels, a lot of US media influence and guess what happened… Yes, it’s present here today as well. ‘Funny’ thing is that whenever I talk to older women (50+) over here, they fully agree. They simply see the young women of today as totally fucked-up.

I’ve met a few exeptions to the rule, but strangely they all have been girls who are mixed race or non-Dutch. When I was in Portugal my eyes really opened for exemple: the girls are SO different, like a blessing from the sky. So yes, the cure? Go to places where women are not (yet) poisened with the Western feminazi cancer, because if you don’t… well, you’re fucked! And not in a good way.

110 TheGuy
October 30th, 2011 @ 10:43 pm

So pray tell, why fuck them?

It’s like the Cold War in that regard.

Solution: do nothing. You can’t unilaterally disarm (suck up to them) without being nuked, and you can’t go on nuking them without being nuked. So quit the fucking field. You’re not helping yourself, and you’re certainly not “helping” them grow some manners.

They do have a sex drive, and as has been said, this culture WOULD BE sterilizing them. If it wasn’t for them still getting laid and “oopsing” guys.

And sterility in a large population group is met by ADAPTING TO PREVENT STERILITY IN SAID GROUP.

Eschewing all women until they learn some fucking manners WILL in fact work, and likely in under 2 years if done on a mass boycott scale.

111 TheGuy
October 31st, 2011 @ 2:07 am

Quoted from this article, and in the same spirit, but applied to Western women:

http://www.alt-market.com/articles/301-want-to-defeat-the-banks-stop-participating-in-the-system

[quote]
The common assumption amongst Americans is that nothing can be done without mass action resulting in “compromise” from leadership. That the healing of our cultural dynamic is a “top down” process. That one person alone has little at his disposal for bettering the world. In fact, it is always self aware and self sustaining individuals who build better societies, not angry mobs without understanding or direction. Individuals blaze the path that the rest of the world eventually follows, and they do this through one very simple and effective act; walking away.

By walking away from the corrupt system, and building our own, we make the establishment obsolete. This philosophy could be summed up as follows:

Provide for yourself and others those necessities which the corrupt system cannot or will not, and the masses (even if they are unaware) will naturally gravitate towards this new and better way. Offer freedom where there was once restriction, and you put the controlling establishment on guard. Eventually, they will either have to conform to you, attack you, or fade away completely. In each case, you win. Even in the event of attack, the system is forced to expose its tyranny and its true colors openly, making your cause stronger.
[/quote]

112 BeenAroundTheWorld
November 4th, 2011 @ 10:05 pm

OMG, i am disgusted after reading this post. You should listen to yourselves as you all sound like bitter, limp dicked ‘men’ who feel completely emasculated by women. No wonder none of you have had decent experiences with western women if you have this attitude. Do you really think that by calling women ‘sluts’ and ‘whores’ continuously you are going to end up with a bright, decent and loving Woman? Ever heard the phrase ‘you reap what you you sow’ and ‘like attracts like’?. Act like a decent human being and you’ll attract other decent human beings. Act like a wanker which is pretty much given in every post and you will atract the same. You all talk about ‘the game’. I am a western women and neither myself nor any of my female friends even know what ‘the game’ is. All we ever hear from you guys is that we ‘demand the game to be played on us’ What the hell does that even mean!!!! Women DO NOT want to be played – simple as. We want decent, honest, strong men. And judging by these posts – where the hell are you all!! If this is what we have left of our society then god help the human race.

113 BeenAroundTheWorld
November 4th, 2011 @ 10:31 pm

It all makes sense!! The blog is right next to whats your name – doosh? A book titled ‘how to cheat on your girlfriend’…. And you all wonder why western women don’t want to know you!! Because in western culture, we are brought up to believe that women should be treated with respect. That’s what feminism has done for us. I’m sorry you all feel completely emasculaed by women, but grow up, grow a pair and get over it. That’s a real man.

114 jon
November 14th, 2011 @ 12:28 pm

I am a good looking successful american male.I have seen everyone of my friends divorced by american woman,getting the homes,keeping the children away from them etc…

Around 70 percent of american woman I have read are initiating divorce.

No fault divorce,alimony child support.Most woman are divorced,or were never married and have children.

Then you have woman telling you their kid will always be number one in their lives,that they dont need a dad because the kid has one that picks them up every weekend,they tell you they will alwyas love the father of their child,while they have already demonstrated that for better or worse means nothing,and got the home,and I am supposed to be attracted to you???Woman are laughable.

These woman still think they are hot stuff,and still have such a sense of entitlment,and have put a ridiculous value on their heads.

I find most woman not even attractive anymore because of their terrible princess entitlement attitudes,then you have posts from woman on sites like these where they will swear up and down that any man that does not want a woman must be a loser,big hairy and fat living in his mothers basement.

Woman are in such denial,and maybe for the first times in their lives,men simply do not want them.We dont even want sex if woman can believe that!!

Why would we want sex from american woman with the high std rate,no fault divorce,child support and alimony,courts stacked against us???

It seems even if we wanted sex with american woman,its like all they have to offer,becoming so entitled that is all in my experience they offer???Cmon,we want real woman who dont drink fight and cuss,who are in some kind of shape who are honest,not going to be an alpha female trying to box me in my own home,who arent going to steal from men.Woman who actually have some kind of maternal instinct and compassion left in their business suits and mustaches.lol!!!

Serously,not all woman are bad,but so many men think so there is literally no point in trying.Men are evolving,we want our woman back.After years of “looking for a good one”who wasnt all shallow,about materialism and keeping up with the jonses,american woman just arent even on our minds anymore,we walk right by you,we dont want it this way but it is this way.

It is refreshing to talk to foreign woman as there are some russian and polish woman in my neighborhood,who actually go to church,and talk to me like I am a human being.It has been years I have known these woman,they have not put the moves on me,and I havent put the moves on them.It is refreshing to talk to educated in shape woman,with morals who can hold their own in intelligent conversations.

But why would I even want a foreign woman,in a country that allows no fault divorce???It is time for men to take their families back and have prenups stating the woman gets alimony for a few months after a divorce,and that the men would get custody of the children.

There is so much liability involved with woman now,emotionally and financially that there is no point in pursuing one.If you want to keep what little money you have in the bank,an american woman especially is bad choice.

115 jon
November 14th, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

a just read some posts talking about how woman like to be treated badly.It has been my experieince when as a man you have a woman pursuing you,and you run like hell,or tell them to stay away,it drives them nuts.The more you deny them,the more they want the forbiddeen fruts,well because a woman is supposed to be able to sway any man with just her body right,and when she does this and you run like hell,the woman just cannot understand such things,it does not compute.

Well now men are finding sex is a number two,three or four to finding a good hardworking,trustworthy honest woman.Just finding a woman that doesnt have a terrible entitlement attitude is next to impossible.

I have done the bad boy thing,and found that woman that like bad boys are just damaged and you just dont want to be around them.

116 GP
November 23rd, 2011 @ 6:13 am

I guess you like’em simple and uneducated… and since you don’t slep with prostitutes, you have to scour the world to try to find simple girls who will sleep with you cause you are very handsome and intelligent… which is PRECISELY the kind of person, you yorself would dislike haha.

Grow up – the world’s changeing… it’s the information age… imagine all the folk who lived in 1st world countries… never learned anything – haha. you are too funny.

117 jon
November 23rd, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

I am just saying,a lot of woman can only come up with retorts on the sites like this,saying”oh that guy must be a fat loser,and thats why he is single.”

What I am saying is there are a lot of fat losers,and successful good looking men that just dont even want to mess with american woman,and for good reason.

a 60 to 70 percent chance a woman will initiate divorce,alimony,child support,no fault divorce,false abuse claims,obesity,std’s,shallowness,princess complex,goldiggers,single moms,antidepressants,birth control,abortions as a birth control etc etc….

Yes the world is changing and men are starting to realize its just not worth messing with an american woman,all you will bring is hardship,bankruptcy,and destroy men emotiinally,make the children hate you etc…

No I have never been married and never will get married,as judges are even throwing out pre nups.After seeing 14 marriages break up,with the woman destroying the familes,bankrupting the men etc…its the stupidest decision a man could ever make and its our responsibility to let younger men know the ways of americans woman.

There are good woman,but so few in number there is no reason to look or ask any woman out on adate ever.

Here is to the solidarity of the mens right movement,and men in general,hoo rah

118 GP
November 23rd, 2011 @ 8:29 pm

Thats a strange retort. I MEAN, How many shitty guys are there out there? :)

“There are good woman,but so few in number there is no reason to look or ask any woman out on adate ever.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA – write back when you finish school… HAHAHAHAHAHA

119 Kendra
November 29th, 2011 @ 2:48 pm

Hi,
I’m an American female and, although this is expected, I’m really offended by this post. Not all of us are bad people.
I don’t like to wear heels because of conditions like hammer toe and bunions. I have cut my hair short, but I’m growing it out. I still consider myself feminine though. I’m not trying to be like a man in any way. So what if I prefer to wear pants? Maybe I get colder than everyone else.
I understand that you have encountered a few obscene, obese, and disgusting females (in appearance and personality), but I think it’s wrong to criticize the entire western culture unless you’ve met everyone who is part of it. Some of us still have charm, some of us know how to flirt without busting a guys’ balls, and some of us know how to exercise.

I do completely agree about the UGG boots and sweatpants trend though, it’s quite lazy.

120 Lele
December 3rd, 2011 @ 9:58 am

@Kendra

Kendra, there will always be exceptions to any majority. We are not saying ALL Westerner women are like this, we are saying the MAJORITY of them are. And I also think that these exceptional women face an hard time, and they may even doubt they are doing right in being good, as they may see their bad girlfriends getting asked out way more often.

Actually, I think it works both ways: there are few Westerner women worth pursuing just like there are few Westerner men worth pursuing. Do good women like being pumped and dumped by players? I don’t think so, therefore players should be bad men in a truly good woman’s eyes. That’s why I think this post is self-contradictory: players should prefer women to be bitches, not good women.

December 8th, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

I remember when I was younger. Every year my parents used to take me to Denmark. Although a more ‘western’ country, I thought the girls were decent! I vowed to learn Danish and move out there when I was older.
That was before I realised I really struggle to learn languages haha!

But I can agree, the new culture that has come with women is the only culture I have really known(being a young guy). I can definately see the problems with it, and feel I know how to play the system the women have created quite well.

122 Dan
December 19th, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

Buddy, you are so wrong. The 7 and 8 are soooooooo typical for eastern europen girls.
For them you are an american who has money (that’s what they asume) so they are so open and nice to you. Eastern girls fuck 4 money (or 4 the illusion), westerns for pleasure (mostrly). Western girls respect a guy with manners, eastern girls we’ll think you are a pussy it you treat them with respect. Plus easterns are frigid, most of them.
So, western women all the way.

123 Ray
December 28th, 2011 @ 4:38 am

@Kendra

You are an american female, therefore I have absolutely NO need for you. You and your kind is and always will remain invisable to me.

@The rest of the commentors

The problem is that guys are not traveling enough to experience girls who are still very much girls. American and European girls know and understand well how much nicer and femimine for example, Asian and most African girls are. These girls will demand you allow them to cut your finger and toe nails, lotion you down after your bath or shower. Wash, dry, press, and hang your clothing according to color and style. Seeing you in the kitchen makes them feel like they are not pleasing you. They are also known for keeping the house in excellent order. They know very well their duties versus the man’s duties. American and European girls will not do this. I am a man, therefore, I choose to be with a girl, not some confused, mentally unstable guy in a woman’s body, which is exactly what your basic american or european girls are.

124 Dan
December 28th, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

@Ray Are you sure you need a woman and not a servant?

125 Anonymous
January 4th, 2012 @ 11:09 am

Any man who marries a western woman nowadays is a fucking idiot. This is especially true in America where women have turned men into pussy-whipped slaves. Advice to you younger guys, just fuck them and leave them. They’re not worth it. And having kids is no bed of roses either. Trust me I know!!

126 sinta
January 15th, 2012 @ 5:06 pm

I am a young woman from Latvia and i would say that our mentality and culture is different from yours not that we are becoming here in western countries sick of americanization. Actually if i speak about my country we have always been cold womans and not only womans but men too. we dont smile all the time, dont laught, dont talk about private things and make friendship very easily. so becouse of that you could think that we have became ignorant and cold against men becouse of feminization. it is not so. we just are not so silly happy about everything all the time like americans are :D

127 Anonymous
February 4th, 2012 @ 10:53 pm

There’s a Ukrainian deli by my house that I shop at every now and then. They have all Ukrainian girls working their and they are all like 16, 17, 20 year olds. They are beautiful girls. They are very quiet kind of shy. But they look you in the eyes and are very friendly and polite. I hope those girls go on to marry and have kids with their own kind and don’t end up corrupted monsters like almost all American-born women do.

128 Anonymous
February 8th, 2012 @ 7:31 am

What this shitface is really saying, is that girls from poor cuntries are easy to fuck, because they doesn’t complain, only do what he wants… others would call this taking advantage of another person…

February 9th, 2012 @ 11:16 pm

nooooo, the misogyny™, the misogyny™….

how dare you say American girls are demanding, fat and mean….

it’s not like there is a conspiracy by the agriculture industry to give American’s lousy, unutritious food to make them fat…

that’s why real men™ have manboobz….

you misogynist™

130 Deluze
March 29th, 2012 @ 9:59 am

Well 128 anom, he prop says that, or he says, that Western women simply complains too much, for no reason.

131 Mike
April 3rd, 2012 @ 6:17 am

You should change this title to include all western women, not only American.
The list is something like : English, German, Sweedish, Norweegian, Danish, American etc.
Pretty much white women from wealthy countries sums it up.

132 Doesnt matter
April 3rd, 2012 @ 11:52 am

Don´t know about east europe. I met many chicks there who were nothing more than parasites (the attractive ones anyway, single mothers over 30 looking for an escape were not surprisingly civil) They have internet access and know damn well what their beauty can fetch in terms of a wealthy provider in the west. It was much better 15 years ago, and despite that they live geographically in another part of the globe, they are becoming contaminated via the global electronc village. Like you stated in a previous thread, loot while you still can, or until the world becomes Sharia compliant and females are put back on the leash where they belong.

133 FromRussiaWithLove
April 30th, 2012 @ 6:13 am

119 Kendra There are very few feminine women in the west. Most of them are simple country girls. Lovely, effeminate but damn hard to find. Skirts or dresses are one of external markers I look for before I even talk to a woman. Usually it’s written on her face what she is all about and I’m yet to see a simple and extremely feminine move of smiling and looking down. I am sorry to say this but most american women are men in female bodies. They are fun in the bedroom. You have forgotten how to be feminine and males lost their balls. It is tragic but it is mutually influenced.

134 Anonymous
May 10th, 2012 @ 8:10 pm

you’re a fucking morron

135 Anonymous
May 10th, 2012 @ 8:11 pm

we got class and just aren’t easy to get. that’s equality suckers.

136 CL
May 12th, 2012 @ 4:07 am

Hi,

I’m a gal, and I have to agree. Modern culture, although giving us a lot of choices that are great, has also hindered women and men in several ways when it comes to dating and sexuality.

Wether we like it or not, when it comes to sex and attraction between men and women, men are still men and women are still women. This will never change no matter how much we try to ‘P.C’ it. The problem is that so many women feel that they need to act like men to be ‘strong’. This is not true. You can be a feminine woman and still be strong. You guys aren’t off the hook either. Some of you are so scared these days! Especially in Northern CA where I’m from. So many guys can’t seem to just go up to a girl and say something nice and ask her out. Honestly, that’s all I ever wanted going through my 20′s and it seemed so impossible to get a real person. And I liked to ‘have fun’ then and all, but i just wanted to do so with guys i could laugh with and have a good time with.

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m a very down to earth chick and I hate rude and cocky chicks and guys. I also don’t really like clubs either. Full of fakeness and insecure men and women who will just hurt each other and make one sex hate the other sex even more lol. I agree that the media today is way to hard on guys, always portraying them as dumber and weaker than the girl in the movie or show. i get tired of that too. People are all different, there are smart and dumb chicks and smart and dumb guys. There are assholes and nice people. Some are guys some are girls. It’s just easy to see an entire sex as horrible when you meet mean ones over and over. My advice, stay out of the clubs. Clubs tend to attract female and male douche bags.

137 Anonymous
May 15th, 2012 @ 9:58 pm

Poison indeed…..

138 Anonymous
May 18th, 2012 @ 10:14 pm

Gotta tell you, I met a girl from Eastern Europe and the difference was amazing. I was amazed how easy it was to talk to her, she was friendly, sweet, etc. Incredibly refreshing from the US girls
I usually meet.

139 Anonymous
May 18th, 2012 @ 10:21 pm

Great post! Gentlemen to find real wives to raise your children, go abroad. I did and I never looked back.

140 Nathanielle
May 20th, 2012 @ 5:26 pm

So, short hair = lesbian
All men have short hair, does that mean they’re all secretly gay?

141 Mike
May 28th, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

My friend married a Russian woman and he has never been happier, not only is she beautiful, but she is sweet and thinks he walks on water for just being a good guy.

142 Anonymous
June 14th, 2012 @ 4:39 am

Probably why in your other post you say you can’t get a girlfriend, maybe start treating women as something other than a blow up to doll to use, or actually – just use a blow up doll instead, at least they won’t get bored listening to your inane drivel. And when you get old and lonely you will have only yourself to blame. Peace.

143 Mike
June 29th, 2012 @ 1:57 pm

Great Article Roosh. This is exactly why american women are unfit for marriage or any kind of long term commitment for that matter. The days of quality, dependable women ended with our parents generation or in some ways maybe even our grandparents generation. I would estimate that there is at least a 40% divorce rate here in america based on the research I have done and of course most of those divorces are initiated by the women. While I have never had the pleasure of dating a foreign woman, I look forward to the day that I do because I can’t imagine anything on the face of this earth that could be worse than the whorish self entitled cunts that plague this country.

144 Carver
July 2nd, 2012 @ 9:46 am

Apparently men do things for their own individual reasons, because of experience, personality and other factors, but women are clearly automatons who make most of their decisions because of their gender programming?

It’s easy to just say, “Western women are crazy, horrible scum” or whatever and be done with it. It’s easy to act like there’s a separate species of people that naturally does or thinks only wrong things.

It’s harder to think that these are human beings who probably don’t arbitrarily decide on a hobby of being nasty about things because it is fun, and that they’re being driven by basic human qualities that we also have, like fear or ego.

I wish white guys would stop making larger-than-life monsters of real women (throwing away facts to do so) in order to make sense out of some confusing and painful situation they might have been through once or twice..

145 Anonymous
July 9th, 2012 @ 1:44 pm

Wow, you guys are totally right! I wonder what the American men are doing wrong, in order to make American women to become like this! I mean, it’s obviously not a “woman gene”, or women in other countries would not be any different. Right?

People, stop complaining. Most people in other countries think the exact same thing about American MEN. Men, please, do not go fishing in other countries for women, or you’ll turn them into what you call “American women”. Take responsibility for what your own people do, and suck it up. Your country. Your “freedom”. Your problem. Do not go around poisoning other societies.

146 James
July 11th, 2012 @ 9:05 am

I find this the most sexist, stupid rag of an article I have ever read. I’d rather my girl be a independant individual who isn’t trapped in outdated constructs of how a woman should “look and act because it’s more feminine”. The generalisations were nothing short of laughable, as if all Eastern women coming to the West take on these cultural changes. Euckkk, it’s the 21st century. I want a partner, not a doll to hang of my arm and look pretty. Feminism works. Deal with it.

147 skwisgaar12
July 24th, 2012 @ 8:39 pm

I LOVE AMERICA!

148 Andrew
August 2nd, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

Woman in America is not women anymore, but parasites. Like ticks, they can’t live without a host (a man) which makes the idea of “independent” women that more laughable.

149 Strathearn
August 9th, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

Author strikes me as insecure, and unable to talk to women. This article reflects what it is to flirt with an American woman, it doesn’t at all suggest he’s ever actually conversed past the point of some giggles. As a Canadian, I find North American woman are great to talk to you, and they easily open up on just about anything intellectual or emotional. Takes way more work to hear anything real from a foreigner woman. Foreigner men though share on anything… in bucket loads… (insert semen joke here)

150 Victor
August 19th, 2012 @ 12:54 am

Each country has its pros and cons and there are beautiful girls everywhere but I have to agree that traveling to another country like Colombia or Ukraine can be very eye opening and can help a person decide what they like and what they don’t.

151 Isa
August 19th, 2012 @ 7:39 pm

I’m a little shocked how you talk about heels as a necessity in looking feminine. I used to wear heels earlier but I strained my ankle pretty badly three months ago and the pain, when I wear heels, is unbearable (and believe me, I would want to, some of my dance lessons require heels and I had to quit them). My doctor assumes it might be that my ligaments were torn and I’m scheduled for a MRI and possibly surgery, but it still means no heels for me for at least six months, possibly even a year. Are the heels really the only thing that matters? Not the overall look or pretty clothes? I like girly clothes, skirts and such, but of course, I need to wear flats now. So why do you mention leg pain as a reason to not wear heels as somehow stupid? Why can’t women wear comfortable shoes, even though it might reduce their sexiness? Isn’t it a bit weird to find it sexy that someone’s legs are hurting so much he can’t even walk properly?

I can understand most of your points even though I don’t agree with all of them, but that comment was just terrible. I really don’t want to be in danger of losing my ability to dance just because I might not look feminine wearing flats.

And this is not a rant of an angered american fat girl. I’m a scandinavian who thinks “self-maintenance” means exercise and healthy food, not shoes that risk my health (at least for now).

152 Anonymous
August 21st, 2012 @ 8:29 pm

If you don’t like Western women, why not repatriate to Iran? You already speak Farsi, so it shouldn’t be too hard.

153 txguy
August 26th, 2012 @ 4:58 pm

Isa and 152 Anonymous alone demonstrate the problem. Arguing, or just discussing, an issue almost immediately becomes emotional.

152 Anonymous, did you read the whole article? One does not have to go to an Islamofascist country. Just one that hasn’t been ruined by Modern Feminism. In any event, getting laid in Iran is punishable by death.

And Isa, you’re overreacting and turning the article into a personal affront. I doubt Roosh was talking about someone with a legitimate medical issue like you. He’s talking about women who find heels less comfortable and refuse to wear them even though they could. And you answer your own question with: “Why can’t women wear comfortable shoes, even though it might reduce their sexiness?” It indicates to a man that she doesn’t care. In any event, since you will heal, what is the big deal?

August 30th, 2012 @ 1:32 am

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155 logical fallacies, irrational economies
September 4th, 2012 @ 3:26 am

txguy, do you think humans should be unemotional robots and not feel rational (http://lesswrong.com/lw/hp/feeling_rational/)?

It is fallacious to assume that not wearing heels necessarily indicates not caring. There is such a thing as not wearing heels and caring about things other than faking tallness. Otherwise, men should high heels like they used to (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/sex-power-and-high-heels-an-interview-with-shoe-curator-elizabeth-semmelhack/).

Maybe what’s poisoned Western cultures is a lack of science and logic, along with English fluency & freedom of speech, allowing ignoramuses to easily make & spread unsound claims about causes and effects and use naturalistic fallacies to justify their stupidities. This would explain why both Western women and men are poisoned by irrationalities. Here’s a tip for not being a puppet of evolutionary desires and spewing stupid justifications: exercise self-control.

156 http://www.rooshv.com/you-cant-get-laid-in-the-united-states#comment-60948
September 4th, 2012 @ 3:28 am

“Explain to me how it’s smart for any society to prevent millions of sexually frustrated men from getting their biological needs met.”

Explain to Us how it’s smart to lie that want of sex is a need, then complain that other wants (other persons’ wants or even your own other wants: http://www.rooshv.com/the-perfect-woman) are not being met while you and others spend so much energy pursuing one want. If you had common sense or cracked open an intro economics textbook on wants vs. needs, you would know that most of the things people say they “need” are actually changeable wants. Are you in denial that men can live and have fun without sex, like Paul Erdos or Nikola Tesla did (http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/creativity.html)? You have deceived yourself and others that sex is a “need” greater than wants for relationships, well-adjusted offspring, etc. (http://lesswrong.com/lw/r/no_really_ive_deceived_myself/). Is such deception smart for any society?

You blame feminism for all problems, but the deception, “sex is necessary,” has been amplified since the sexual revolution, with the growing industries of porn and sex tools, while feminism has receded (Google “Phyllis Schafly”, “anti-feminism,” “backlash to feminism,” etc.; see also http://lesswrong.com/lw/is/fake_causality/). Hot gals like me (a thin Chinese American) have to be on guard or in hiding, lest we suffer abuses which are responsible for people’s abortion and infanticide of females and for gals committing suicide. One of my hot high school classmates ended up killing herself while in grad school, having lost hope for humanity. Since I was been abused by my biological father and then by a male acquaintance and have seen abuse stats and stories (e.g. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf–pennsylvania-charity-shows-penn-state-way-to-heal.html), I’ve contemplated suicide too. Seeing lies and demoralization such as yours doesn’t help, but I won’t give you the satisfaction of killing my spirit, at least not while I can debug humanity of men’s lies. You think women are shallow and not interested in your deeper being, but how deeply do you feel our painful memories and repeatedly bashed hopes for a better future (http://lesswrong.com/lw/hp/feeling_rational/)? Who’s more shallow: the sex-seeker or the feminist/humanist?

“If these men committed mass suicide, not a single feminist tear would be shed.”

I’ve cried in despair for humanity ever since I was a abused child and witnessed manipulation or violation of others too. Have you shed a tear for the genocide, suicide, abuse, and violence against females and children, caused by men neglecting much but the pursuit of sex or other short-lived highs? If women like me steel ourselves, cutting ourselves off from our emotions and empathetic connection to potential predators, it is to prevent more trauma (see research on PTSD). If some men commit mass suicide after self-deception like yours or choosing to become addicted to sex/drugs/etc., feminists would be outraged and seek justice. Wise parents would use any meme possible to prevent their sons or daughters from falling into affective death spirals of sex/alcohol/etc. (http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Death_Spirals_and_the_Cult_Attractor).

Dear Ladies Liberty & Justice:
This is not what America was supposed to become, with the lies, energy-wasting, and abuses of the unenlightened spreading beyond the US. We Americans apologize for having failed you.

Dear Brains:
Illuminate — guide us out of the darkness of unawareness (http://lesswrong.com/lw/1xh/living_luminously/). Free the humans behind RooshV back to Truth. Let them express true values instead of the fake criteria of sex (http://lesswrong.com/lw/kz/fake_optimization_criteria/).

157 dennis
September 9th, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

I am liking the white knighters in this blog,to these other chicks posting their drivel blogs showing evils of feminisim and men are just adjusting to it by learning game which is a very difficult process to implement. no amount of women are victim mentality will make us put up with feminisim

158 been abroad, 35 unmarried
September 13th, 2012 @ 8:57 am

These guys/girls travelling abroad for love should also consider that the foreign girls/guys may only be interested in your passport, money etc.
They may have not visited a western country and therefore do not have the ability to express themselves as well as they would like in English. I have dated foreign girls who seemed to have different personalities when speaking their own languages.
The comments about marrying american/uk and loosing everything I can agree with. Also I know a British guy who married a Romanian girl and got taken to the cleaners. Be very careful.

September 28th, 2012 @ 4:51 am

Hey Roosh, you’d love my website and I invite you to participate in my forum too.

http://www.happierabroad.com

160 pole
October 1st, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

I live in Warsaw and reading that makes me enjoy this place even much more.

161 Dave
October 5th, 2012 @ 2:31 am

The epidemiology of this “poison” is very clear and analogous of a similar problem we have in the United States, the civil rights movement which occurred simultaneously to the modern feminist movement. Now, that’s not to say blacks shouldn’t have equal opportunity and that they weren’t wronged in the past. However that history of being wronged has made them bitter, hateful, and angry at the white man. No matter how much progress we’ve made as a society they still have a huge chip on their shoulder. Britain didn’t have civil rights problems so they don’t suffer the same sort racial tension. However they did suffer through the feminist movement at the same time the US did. Women have that same chip on their shoulder which is what leads them to have a negative attitude towards men. I think for both blacks and women they suffer from a massive inferiority complex.

162 YB13
October 28th, 2012 @ 2:35 pm

In regards to example #1 about insults, I have the perfect scenario.

Wroclaw May 2012 – Final Night – Meet a girl in a group of friends from Winnipeg, Manitoba of Polish descent. Upon learning I’m from Texas, she disgustedly says, “I bet you’re from Dallas because of the coffee cup in your hand.” Laughed it off, moved on.

Later on in the night, I overhear her speaking Polish to a bartender while she hears me speaking Portuguese to a friend from Portugal. I explain the differences between the language in continental Europe and Brazil as she responded with “but how much time did you actually spend in Brazil” sarcastically afterwards.

I totally get what Roosh is saying right here about straight off the bat passive aggression from a “westernized” mentality.

163 pamperednotb10
October 29th, 2012 @ 4:00 pm

Women have fickle natures and in countries where societies have emerged from christian roots, the women are the most screwed up of all. Woman’s lib, women’s rights and women’s desire to be like men, have all resulted in the frustration of the male and the rising agression and hostility of the female, so that now sexes are more and more opposed to peaceful and cooperate sexual couplings. Straight women are turning to straight women for sex and straight men turning to straight men for sex, because the hassle, bother and hurt are so great. People are hurting each other.

Thousands of years ago men and women were living in tribal groups enjoying polyamourous sex. Ages before “marriage” was invented. A partner for life or marriage is not the answer for everyone. What’s wrong with just wanting sex? What’s wrong with not loving the person you have sex with? Mere mutual consent to have sex with them, shows you care, because sex creates well-being.

Two things which have helped this along are the eroneous christian belief that sex before marriage is sinful. Truth is that there is nothing in the bible said against premarital sex, nothing said against rape, nothing said against making use of prostitutes, nothing against abortion. According to scripture, women were made to be helpers of men, but have “evolved” into frustraters of men.

The solution to this problem is for men to stick together and frustrate women by refusing to have sex with them, treating them like they were treated thousands of years ago.
Deprived of status, humiliated and degraded.
They way Saudi countries treat women is probably a better way, although muslim women are equally screwed up. Eventually westernization and the elevation of women over men will result in women being frustrated and more and more men will be able to earn a living as prostitutes.

There are forces bringing this about beyond man’s control. In future years to come, the number one reason for suicide will be sexual frustration.

164 Tigre
November 4th, 2012 @ 1:44 pm

I quote Spengler: “At all times and in all places, the men and women of every culture deserve each other.”

Western women are what they are in large part due to the large majority of Western men being white knights and beta enablers.

165 Geno X
November 19th, 2012 @ 2:14 pm

Just read this thread. Your article is spot on, and the american women that responded in this thread simply confirmed your position!

166 Anonymous
November 21st, 2012 @ 8:53 am

I am from one of the countries Roosh recently visited but currently live in UK. Not gonna lie, at first I found content of this website disturbing. The more I read it, the more things I can agree on. I live in UK since 2007 and I am still shocked by what I see here on the daily basis. Women here are lazy, scruffy, aggressive, provocative and have really low self-esteem. They are ready to open their legs to anyone, as if its not enough, they will brag about it afterwards as if it is some sort of achievement. Also, absolutely boring, shallow and will never miss a chance to bitch about foreign women (the fact how bad they are at geography is more sad than funny). In the end of the day, women need to stop blaming men for cheating, playing their feelings and disrespecting them. This is all our own fault. If all sluts around the world learned how to keep their legs closed, remembered to look after themselves and the man they are with and started to spend more time on their individual development rather than being a lazy ass, selfish bitches, men would started treat us properly and all the chaos would end. Decent women like me, who are educated, good looking, caring, soft and feminine have to deal with disrespectful, full of shit men who have never actually met a real woman in heir live and have no clue how to behave when they do. Women of UK and other countries, sort your shit out and don’t blame men as they are the perfect reflection of your own image and what you have turned them into!!!

167 T-bone
November 28th, 2012 @ 9:28 pm

Plenty more fish in the sea..
I love everything about fish, but they are hard to catch. Only 10% of the anglers get 90% of the fish. They live in a difficult environment, are responsive at very particular times and require the correct bait to be presented to them in the correct way. To get all of this right requires study, conversation with friends and time put in as practice. What starts as frustration, leads to experimentation, which develops learning and produces good technique and a body of experience. Not all fish that are available are tasty and some are poisonous to the point of being deadly. It’s important to be able to recognise the difference and choose the proper location to reduce the likely-hood of dealing with the undesirables as well as knowing what to throw back.
Even with all of these difficulties, I would never complain about the challenges and the odd spike in the finger, because the challenge of catching that beauty, the respect of my friends as a good fisherman and the enjoyment I get from eating said fish all make the pursuit worthwhile. If it wasn’t, I’d just eat crap from the markets where they are easily available in exchange for cash.
That said, yes, some waters produce better fishing for more beautiful and exciting specimens.

168 The West Sucks
December 5th, 2012 @ 1:46 am

Western culture destroys EVERYBODY and everything that comes in its wake (remember colonialism, imperialism, slavery, etc).

Thank god Buddhism is the fastest growing religion in the West.

169 Dave
December 17th, 2012 @ 1:03 am

“Unbridled capitalism”? More like Cultural Marxism

170 LKS
December 18th, 2012 @ 2:34 am

Eastern european women are epic!! and I am a laton woman, Roosh this site is interesting: http://www.westernwomensuck.com/

December 25th, 2012 @ 8:30 am

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172 Ray
December 29th, 2012 @ 2:40 am

Marco you are the dumbest guy out there. You are such a mangina. Defending women is dumb not even realizing how they fucked the whole society up.

173 Anonymous
January 6th, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

Unfortunattely Esstrn Europe is going down the toilet fast too.. I can see how packed is McDonalds.. drinking coke and eating shit just like american fatties – and because they are dumb they will end up as fat and stupid as american women.. (exceptions please excuse my french – any cool gal living in US thumbs up no pb :-) ).

Latin America has the same dumb women and Eastern Europe or USA – however they still have fun..
Eatrn Europe is FAST becoming the same shit as Western Europe.

In my opinion Polland and Russia are still ok for fun – however you need to act like a total hypocrite and loooser otherwise you wont get any – so lying a lot, talking shit etc are part of the game.

I personally like Nordic women – Sweeden Denmark etc. I agree they might be very cold because of some feminists bitches over there however in general I would say the are way cooler and nicer than anything else on the planet..

I mean yeah sure you can fuck hotties in latin america – however they are really dumb, conservative and highly religious – very old school.. Eastern Europe is shit – SOME areas do have hot bitches though.. Again – some – and STILL. Usually it is a combination of worst Western and Eastern culture – just desperate womens looking for a looser andhotties who are ass kissed by all kind of eastern europeean loosers with no vertically who just read book about “how to” and just play stupid games with brainwashed stupid women. Same shit as in west.

I personally find it much easier to hook up with girls from Nord than most of Eastern Europe (anywhere where there is money things have become very bad) – so you need to go for poorer areas where women aren’t spoiled.

174 Ron Jeremy
January 9th, 2013 @ 11:14 pm

This guy is the biggest douche like OMG. Playa’ for life and die alone status

175 OG
January 14th, 2013 @ 12:54 am

This is just silly. What would you replace Western culture with? Besides, the East European women you rave about are “Western” in the sense that they hail from Christendom, not some Turd world backwater.

January 15th, 2013 @ 6:24 pm

You are a coward and a cancer. Post the picture of yourself on the 9 ugliest feminists article. You wouldn’t because you are tiny limp dicked useless excuse for a man. You attack women only because you feel so impotent. I would ask you to go through a logic exercise and consider what would happen if there were no women in the world but I can tell that you A. wouldn’t get it. B. Would deny it if you did get it, and C. Suck massive cock anyway.

Anybody that spews this much hatred for the other side of the coin hates themself and protests way too much. If you can put two and two together reply or email me.. No.. actually find any one of my accounts and come back with a witty retort. I’ll bet you dollars to donuts you’re too stupid to do any sort of logical thinking.

You will die alone and lonely.

177 *
January 16th, 2013 @ 5:13 am

1-8 = she won’t fuck you.

You’re disgusting. And I’m glad that your fucking idiotic form of masculinity is dying.

178 *
January 16th, 2013 @ 5:15 am

Polish women are western you dumb fuck.

179 Western girl in the Eastern world
January 19th, 2013 @ 12:44 am

I guess you wish that we Westernized, feminist women were as bitter and desperate as you describe here—well, sorry. I’m one of them, and I’ve been happily in long-term relationships for most of my life since the age of 17. Currently with a wonderful Slovak guy.

How did I attract him, you ask? Surely with miniskirts and towering heels, so as to compete with the girls who gave Bratislava (the city of our first date) the moniker Hotislava? Actually, with simple clothes, flat shoes, just a tiny bit of makeup, and a conversation at a party that left him asking when he could see me again. When I asked him why he’s with me instead of a girl from his country, he said he liked the way I don’t cover my face in makeup—he can see my real face and thinks it’s beautiful. He also likes that I’m educated, ambitious, and will make my own money—so I’m not obsessed with the status of his occupation (he’s a teacher).

I guess sometimes I’ve thought about whether to become more “feminine” in my dress and worldview. This was especially on my mind when I became a Western expat in Central-Eastern Europe. But I think my current strategy actually works best. Sure, dressing in skimpy clothing and heels and piling on the makeup probably attracts more guys—problem is, that includes guys like the one who wrote this article.

See, the goal from the female point of view isn’t to attract *more* guys, it’s to attract *the right* guys. To find someone who will be a boyfriend, a husband, someone you’ll be proud to introduce to your parents, honored to spend your life with. Not some flake who hops countries having one-night stands and writing about it on the internet and probably has an STD. And for that, my chunky sweaters, ballet flats, and ponytail are the perfect anti-bullshit armor, and I won’t be getting rid of them anytime soon.

180 Western girl in the Eastern world
January 19th, 2013 @ 12:57 am

@178: Oh yeah and, I don’t know why this is, but I keep meeting and becoming friends with all these awesome Polish girls who are lesbians with short, asymmetrical haircuts!

181 Anonymous
January 19th, 2013 @ 11:58 pm

At least you do not live here bro.

182 John Rambo
January 20th, 2013 @ 2:18 am

“Even though she wanted to continue talking to me, I cut the interaction short.”

The best line for this is to tell her “Sorry, but I have to go return some video tapes”, get up, and walk out.

January 22nd, 2013 @ 5:53 pm

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184 jlynn
January 29th, 2013 @ 9:53 pm

As a woman I hate to say I agree with MANY of the comments on this site.Sad to say I am also a Western woman.I AM girly and LOVE to wear dresses,take care of my children and my home. In our society women like me are called parasites on the economy. We don’t bring the bacon home we simply cook it and nurture our families.
I have always been a “good girl” never had any vices drinking,swearing, whoring etc. I kept myself for my husband and because of that I am frowned upon.Woman will often tell me of their wild days.When they ask ME about MINE I simply say I never had the wild days.Then I get frowned upon and told I am judgmental!!! I answer their question and I am the bad person now.Its really upsetting because sometimes I feel all alone. I ENJOY my family and rearing children and all the volunteer work we do is a joy.I know its NOT paid but does that make me a lesser person then someone that makes money?

185 LKS
February 7th, 2013 @ 1:42 am

173 if latin american women are dumb for being traditional than being the pumped and dumped feminists…so be it, at least in latin america personality and character win over the supposed ‘intelectualism’ because at the end of everything in this life you will follow your heart most of the time, it doesn’t matter how intelectually analize it like nuclear scientist or whatever crap intelectual superiority people think latinamerica lacks, at the end one fiery tempered heart will win a cold methodical mind when it comes at humans relationtioships, plus western civilization has its pillar on the mediterranean people (Greek Civilization, Roman Empire) Don’t forget latin america is mixed with mediterranean people (spanish who was part of the roman empire and Portugal) and the indegenous people who also had empires (Aztec, Incan, Maya)

PS: Proud defendant of my heritage

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187 LD
February 9th, 2013 @ 6:49 pm

Hello Roosh, your site didn’t let me post yesterday, what happened?

188 Linda
February 12th, 2013 @ 11:31 am

This is excellent. My eyes are open. For the most part, I’m sweet and loving, attentive and helpful to my husband. And I feel like I won the lottery marrying him — we’ve been together 25 years. But this article woke me up — I need to take better care of myself. I’m not a load, but I’m not in shape either. I telecommute, but I don’t wear jammies all day. Still, I should wear more skirts and care about my appearance. It’s just part of keeping each other happy. Anyway, thanks for the article! This should be required reading for all American women!

189 Linda
February 12th, 2013 @ 11:34 am

jlynn:
“I have always been a “good girl” never had any vices drinking,swearing, whoring etc. I kept myself for my husband and because of that I am frowned upon.Woman will often tell me of their wild days.When they ask ME about MINE I simply say I never had the wild days.Then I get frowned upon and told I am judgmental!!!”

jlynn: Up is down and down is up, right is wrong. We’re living in weird times. It’s a good thing you and your husband and people of principles, otherwise you’d blow with the wind. Don’t get frustrated with women who put you down — it’s likely a defensive move, they aren’t so sure where they are in their lives. You’re planting seeds — it takes a while for your approach to take root in their own thoughts. Bet you have a great impact on your friends!

March 11th, 2013 @ 5:50 am

I have to agree with a lot of this which makes me sad. I’m 41 year old English lady who is ashamed of my compatriots . The biggest compliment aimed at me out and about that people never think I’m English people always think I’m Russian or Polish ! I am a Nurse and the nurses who are qualifying now are unkempt and lack kindness which to me is the integral quality a nurse should process ?? They are fart but go on all day about gyms and diets?! I have remained 19 BMI for the past 20 years with no gym membership simply cause I walk a lot and don’t over eat!! Also these girls are lazy and seem to have no energy! I don’t blame men going elsewhere to find girls if I was a man I would too! Me I lost a the love of my life to cancer and never expect to meet another man like him. Besides at 41 I’m no longer mateable!! I still get plenty of attention off usually younger men as I look young and always dress in pretty clothes but can’t help feeling am I done kind of bet??? Don’t want to go down that cougar route!! Guess I’m destined to live life on my own now! And Atleast I know I’ve been loved by a great man.

191 Radek
March 13th, 2013 @ 2:54 pm

I wonder Why anglosphere guys are always complaining? Anglosphere guys are way uglier on average than Continental European/Scandinavian ones, so in result the woman will be uglier than other caucasian women.

192 Radek
March 13th, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

Its a thing about genetics, anywhere where the British/Irish are majority the women will be fucked up ugly, masculine, etc

SO thats why most of Canada, Australia and the US is made up by ugly fat arses.

193 lisa
March 17th, 2013 @ 11:21 pm

wow… My husband has been telling me for yearrrrs that I am different from other women but sadly I NEVER believed him. I told him about this article and how sad it made me.

I have grown my own peach trees from pits which are flowering this year and have made jellies, jams, homemade bread every Tuesday, carefully watch ingredients in products, dug my own flower beds with my children, made my own cake mixes, teas, coffees wear mostly skirts and adding more softer colors and dresses this year he is helping me pick out, grew my hair out, file my nails and paint them, take care of myself, act feminine towards men that help me or even IF they made a mistake I take the blame ( as I told one gentleman, “well we were having such a NICE conversation I forgot to pick up my purchased product!”) Yeah, I guess I am different…

Read Fascinating Womanhood.

194 LaughingOutLoud
March 19th, 2013 @ 6:15 pm

Wow! Frankly, you sound to me like somebody with an inferiority complex. You obviously can’t handle a little criticism. Plus, you give off the vibe of a highly pretentious and insecure individual that tries really hard to sound more intelligent than he actually is. Now, these Polish women that you claim to pick up so easily, what language do you use to do so? If you don’t speak Polish and approach them in English, of course you’re bound to succeed more, seeing as they probably don’t understand you well enough to pick up the pretentious undertones you oh so marvellously radiate. I’ll tell you from experience what it is about men that sends women running or puts us in ‘Bitch’ mode.

Firstly, if you think you’re much more attractive than you actually are. There’s nothing more aggravating than a sub-par looking guy coming on to you in a cocky, I’m-more-than-you-deserve manner. Not to say that when an attractive guy with the same attitude approaches a girl it’s any less annoying, but at least we give him 15 more minutes to redeem himself so that we could ogle his good looks and imagine all sorts of inappropriate things. Though if what’s coming out of his mouth is too aggravating or to difficult to zone out then we give the slip as well. Humble approach is always best, and I’m not calling a shy, insecure and with an obviously low self esteem guy humble. Humble means you know your vices and your strengths, and you keep that knowledge to yourself, instead of bragging or whining about it.

Secondly, when the guy approaching you is a dumbass. And of course nothing makes it worse when that dummbass has a pretentious undertone and a condescending manner about him. If you’re saying dumb shit to a woman, and she has a few more brain cells than you, don’t look so shocked when she shoots you down. If you’re a smart guy, well read, cultured and educated – DON’T BRAG ABOUT IT! No matter how intelligent you are, showing off is always a turn off to women with standards. So don’t get upset when a fully grown woman, who knows who she is and what she deserves shoots you down. And she’ll only mock you if you aggravate her, or come off condescending. Unless of course she has an attitude problem, but not all women from the West or who’ve lived there have one. The biggest reason women turn their ‘Bitch’ mode on is because of unattractive, unintelligent, condescending, and pretentious assholes that have tried to approach them in the past. If you’re a humble, stand up guy, with a great personality and a good sense of humour you don’t even need to be all that attractive. Humour does miracles. Next time you’re approaching a “Western woman” try not to sound like what I’ve just described. It’s highly off putting. And one more thing, Toronto ladies are wonderful. It’s not them, it’s you. Try to imagine yourself a woman and then ask yourself if you would give you a chance, maybe some introspection may do you good.

195 Anonymous
March 23rd, 2013 @ 11:59 pm

If you don’t believe in femminism and equal opportunity, get the fuck out of this country. We don’t need rascit sexist immigrants coming in and telling us how we should act. We don’t have gender roles here. That means, anyone and everyone is free to be who they want. Men and women are far more similar than you realize – all men have a feminie side, and all women have a masculine side. It’s like yin and yang. And there’s so much more to people than just their gender…

196 Somewhat aggravated.
March 24th, 2013 @ 8:05 pm

“Western Culture poisons women”. Well, that would be true if you were anti the-emancipation-of-women. So many of your bullet points that are examples of this so called poisoning could equally be applied to men: pretending to play cool; being obsessed with a mobile phone; flirting by teasing and “busting balls”; slacking on grooming after getting a partner. It would be a very naive and closed-minded view of the world to believe that these points only apply to women. And if you believe that these things are acceptable for men to do; why? Why should women be so criticised for doing the things men do? This is just the start of equality. And do you know WHY women wear pants and not skirts? Because women want to attain a status based on what their skills are, and not just what they look like. And that is the sad truth.
I think it is the case that your view of western women has been poisoned; not the women.

197 A.
April 6th, 2013 @ 6:01 am

I’ve been living in U.S for three months while I was a student (went there with Work&Travel Program). I’ve changed a bit my appearance because of men, not women, so stop blaming American women for that. In Eastern Europe nobody see women as whores only because they wear high heels, make-up, accessories, hair arranged and dress stylishly, it’s normal to be like that even when you go out for shopping, because you can never be overdressed. In US you’ll bring LOT of unwanted attention from the male population. Of course it’s nice to be admired but I also felt embarrassed by the desperate horny look. I stop wearing stilettos during day and I even put my long hair in a pony-tale. (something I’ve never done at home)

198 A.
April 6th, 2013 @ 6:39 am

@196

With all do respect, “ I don’t wear shirt because I want to be appreciated for my skils” it’s a lame excuse.

199 Anonymous
April 13th, 2013 @ 1:52 pm

In place of well considered psychological and sociological research (of which there is a great deal available, for free) you seem to have instead explored this idea with basically just your own unsubstantiated views. I do not think that ‘twin study’ for instance, means what you think it means.

Women aren’t simple, because PEOPLE aren’t simple. Reducing the way you think about entire swathes of the world’s populous to this extent is just fucking unhealthy. Describing people as though they have become ‘infected’ is particularly worrying, and I seriously hope that you reconsider your views on this and the considerable rage you seem to have.

In response to some of the other commenters – feminism is a seriously shit self-obsessed label, but that doesn’t mean all feminists are dicks (though there seem to be some feminist dicks on here). I’ve met plenty of feminists who just want equality – and that includes fighting for equality for guys (you know what I mean, fighting that whole ‘Oh, of course he can’t do that he’s a man’ bullshit).

Also, I would totally love to see some of the commenters try to wear high heels and not want to take them off immediately. Having tried to wear them a long time ago I still remember that they *hurt*.

200 Carla
April 16th, 2013 @ 12:42 am

kana troć. Gdańska szkuta utkwiła przechylona w Carla mule,
zboże wysypywało się,
mieszając ze szlamem. Bestia musiał być wyposażonym
straszne pragnienie. Toż nie mógł odwrócić eksplozji.

Sir Roger opadł.

201 Salinger
April 18th, 2013 @ 8:58 am

Did you ever stop to think that maybe American women or any other ‘Western’ women you seem to dislike do not want to appear feminine to you and have no interest in flirting with you because you’re a sexist moron?

Does it not strike you as odd that you only have nice experiences in places where women are valued if they are subservient? You should ask yourself whether your self-esteem issues that create your constant need for assertion are not really the problem. You’re welcome.

202 Mohammed Stevenson Braun
April 20th, 2013 @ 12:55 am

I can’t understand why so-called western conservatives love “western culture” so much when it leads it self-destruction.

203 Anonymous
May 5th, 2013 @ 5:19 pm

You have some pretty high standards for an ugly pig. Maybe women don’t talk to you because they don’t find you attractive, ever think of that? Just because a girl gives you attitude doesn’t mean they’re a result of western culture, but have some self respect.

204 Joe Dick
May 7th, 2013 @ 1:50 am

hey Roosh, don’t you think that all these bitches look super-stupid with these stupid tattoos on? especially those who have them on their neck or places like these.

And the pierced tongues. Silly bitches. They think they look special, I think they look really stupid

205 Joe Dick
May 7th, 2013 @ 1:55 am

203 Anonymous, yes, he has high standards, because he fucked lots of women. Except silly bitches like you. If that isn’t self-respect, what is?

206 Luke Hartung
May 10th, 2013 @ 1:36 am

Agreed.

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