What Happened To Baltimore?

After college a couple guys introduced me to a Baltimore spot called Hammerjacks. Now closed, it was a huge warehouse-style club that had an open bar for $20 on “college” Thursday nights. It was there I started my game journey, first with dance floor crotch-on-ass game. The large size of the club meant I could approach a million girls if I wanted to, and the initial successes I had in Hammerjacks gave me the confidence to transition to talking game in D.C. bars.

One of the reasons I stopped going to Baltimore every week was because the logistics were horrible. I didn’t have one-night stand game back then so it was pointless to drive an hour for a date to see a girl who most likely lived in a dorm. I still visited Baltimore monthly because the girls were definitely of higher quality than in D.C.

I can’t say that anymore.

I went on a Friday a few weeks ago to both Canton and Fells Point for the first time in over a year and was stunned and how huge, sloppy, and ugly the girls were. The only approachable girl I saw was waiting in line of a pizza place. I actually wished to be back in D.C., and I hate D.C.

The reason Hammerjacks kept me interested for so long was because those girls I was grinding my junk on were babyfaced teenagers who weren’t technically from Baltimore. While the area of Federal Hill may have some college cuties (I’m thinking of the bar Dirk McGerk), I completely understand why all the guys who email me from Baltimore say the scene is a wasteland. Without finding a niche I don’t see how I could be happy there. The city is dead to me.

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  • Jay Gatsby

    Baltimore is a hole, and frankly, it always has been. Crime is high, there’s no real culture to speak of, and the people are rather dumb when compared to other East Coast cities (particularly NYC & DC) As for the women, they don’t have the same bitch shields as D.C., but they’re nothing to write home about. If you live in Baltimore, I’d suggest high-tailing it to NYC on the weekends as often as you can afford it. Crash on your buddy’s couch/floor if need be. You’ll end up going back to her place anyway, and you’ll simply grab a cab the next morning back to your buddy’s place. Who cares if you bag a 5-6 every weekend? Quality over quantity. Bagging a 7-8 or an 8-9 once a month or so makes the trip to NYC worth it in the end. Spend your downtime on non-women related pursuits.

  • http://therookiedc.wordpress.com/ The Rookie

    they all saw the Wire, thought it was real, and got the fuck out

    The Rookie’s last blog post: BANG Las Colombianas.

  • inSOMnia

    Dude remember we saw that fight where that girl hit that guy on the head with a bat and then jumped in the car with the cop trying to stop them by holding on to the door…memories.

  • Anonymous

    i dunno why you keep beating your head against the wall on the east coast…

    move west. it really is different. from what you’ve written, the farthest west you’ve been is Vegas, unless i’m forgetting something or you didn’t write about it.

    try LA, santa monica…it’s unbelievable. might as well be a different country.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    Never really been to Baltimore (except one time as a kid to grind in Little Italy and see the Aquarium), but America has been on a steep nightlife decline for awhile.

    Even though the Up Economy era was horrible for american nightlife it was still better than recent times in LA, NYC, Miami Beach and Las Vegas.

    - MPM

    The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Juan Manuel Marquez VS Juan Diaz 2: The Rematch.

  • E

    Well, since this post has morphed to “best cities” to run game, I recommend Austin, TX.

    That place has got to be one of the easiest places in the USA to get laid, assuming you like running game in bars. There are so many chicks from UT-Austin, Austin CC & lots of 20-something hipster chicks working shitty jobs in the city that it is a fucking gold mine. I can see why the first season of “The Pickup Artist” was filmed there.

    Anybody been to Chicago? What is the scene like & what is the average quality of the women like?

    I want to visit, but it would be great to get a description of the pickup scene.

    Maybe this would be a great project for Roosh to do: write a “Zagat”-style guide that describes the pickup scene in each major city in the US.

    I know I would buy such a guide.

    In fact, I am surprised no one has ever done this. It would be such a great resource.

  • http://www.vksempireofdirt.com virgle Kent

    Man, been done told you son, West Coast is the best coast, real talk

  • E

    “try LA, santa monica…it’s unbelievable. might as well be a different country.”

    Gotta agree that Santa Monica is a great place to pickup chicks. The quality of the chicks there is through the roof.

  • Anonymous

    “except one time as a kid to grind in Little Italy and see the Aquarium”

    Hey G,
    You have some obvious mental health issues. Please get some help. Really, dude.

  • AJ

    Like most of America’s rust belt, Baltimore is a wasteland

    All the educated young people tend to migrate out and thus the city has been in a slow decline since the 60′s or something.

    The only thing you have left is trashy girls of all races.

    The best cities are magnets for young people and are growing. I used to live in one but I kicked a dog and have been forever banished.

  • West LA

    @ Anonymous (#4) and E (#8)
    I’m very curious as to your opinion on the best places in Santa Monica for pick up, and what is the age range of women in these places.
    Thanks for info…

  • Gabriel

    Your best bet in Baltimore is the Inner Harbor, but I’m sure it’s not the same as before. My brother goes to Hopkins, and the school is riddled with Indians and Koreans where only a slight percentage of women are attractive. Loved the campus but in terms of living and picking up, your options are slim. Outside of college girls, dumpster diving is the standard.

    Unless you’re looking to pick up some E tabs and roll to some dubstep or side trance, skip Murdaland. My cue was when Latin Palace in Little Italy went to shit, what a sad story…

  • http://paultheking.wordpress.com paultheking

    Wasteland!! ha-ha.. fucking classic Roosh.

    Love it!

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  • Roosh

    Inner harbor (Power Plant) is the worst. Trashy, ugly, generic girls. A million bachelorette parties. Federal Hill has the best quality in Baltimore I’d say.

  • roissy

    from a friend who lives there, austin sounds like it should be in the top 5 of any man’s best pickup cities list.

  • http://www.thegmanifesto.com The G Manifesto

    “You have some obvious mental health issues. Please get some help. Really, dude.”

    I agree with you, although grinding Coniglio al Forno con Pesto D’Ortica and Guancia Ripiena has nothing to do with it.

    Nor did seeing African Cichlids or Yellowmouth Barracudas have any negative effect.

    And don’t call me dude.

    - MPM

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  • http://wonkawilly.wordpress.com Willy Wonka

    Baltimore has never struck me as a place I’d want to go.

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  • Random Guy

    I used to live in Silver Spring and now live in the Baltimore area and the girls are way better on average in the Baltimore area. However, the better ones in the DC area are often better than the more cookie cutter Baltimore chicks. I tend to see the hots ones more in Towson, White Marsh, Anne Arundel County and Canton. There are definitely trashier ones in Baltimore, but lots and lots of the more typical very hot “girl next door” “8″‘s.

  • Hamster

    “What happened to Baltimore?”

    You saw Brazil.

    Same shit happened to me, now we’re screwed for life.

  • speakeasy

    I don’t think Santa Monica women are “through the roof.” Though good enough. The women you see in Hollywood on the other hand, yeah through the roof for sure. I couldn’t believe my fucking eyes last weekend looking at the girls standing in line for the clubs.

  • ESchlop

    Yeah man, Hammerjacks and their open bar was the place to be back in the day!

  • ESchlop

    And furthermore, the reason why you might not like B-More no more may be because you’ve been to so many other places to compare it to since your days of youth and inexperience. I used to think Philly was the greatest, then I moved away for five years and did alot of traveling. Now I’m living in downtown, and wow, my opinion changed. Still a cool city, but I’d much rather spend my time elsewhere. Years ago, I would never imagine saying that.

  • Anonymous

    “I agree with you, although grinding Coniglio al Forno con Pesto D’Ortica and Guancia Ripiena has nothing to do with it.”

    Hey dude, the only way you were grinding as a kid on Guancia Ripiena is if you are 5 years old and you hang out at Babbo. You are such a moron. Really. Dude. Everyone sees through your shit. Please seek professional mental health counseling. For reals. Dude.

  • Anonymous

    haaaaaahaaahahahahaa 31 y.o. bro with a “crotch on ass” game hahahhaa you are one pathetic fuker

  • Anonymous

    and that 31 year old grinder criticizes doctors! hahaha I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry. hahah what a retard!

  • Anonymous

    west LA -

    the entire 3rd street promenade is ridiculous. you have tourists plus locals (the beautiful people) going to the gym and shopping. it’s absurd. the bar “Britannia” is a great place to meet a lot of people in a very casual environment that really accommodates “bumping into new people” …think afternoon drinking. 100% awesome.

    also, main street in SM is sick. also, abbot kinney blvd. in venice is a mortal lock on weds-sat. check out “first fridays” for unbelievable public drunkeness and status whoring.

  • http://www.artbyjoel.com jkc

    ahhh, Baltimore. the armpit of the Chesapeake.

  • Tino

    “The women you see in Hollywood on the other hand, yeah through the roof for sure. I couldn’t believe my fucking eyes last weekend looking at the girls standing in line for the clubs.”

    I have really come to hate the club scene in Hollywood. Maybe I am jaded b/c I have lived too long in LA.

    Oh, well. I am moving to San Diego soon, so it doesn’t matter.

  • http://BronnBangs.com Bronn

    Maybe the girls have stayed the same and it’s just your standards that have changed since then. Also, may be you get less drunk when you go to clubs now? I know that when I practice dance game I have to get hammered, which has a flattering effect on the women.

    @E and Roissy – Austin is amazing, living here is the shit. It does need an ocean though…

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  • AWOL

    hollywood is complete weak-sauce garbage. horrible personalities and just a terrible overall vibe.

    westside is where it’s at!

  • http://www.artbyjoel.com jkc

    Austin’s got a lake, though

  • Nancy Twilight

    If this personage tried to get his crotch anywhere near my butt (eeewwwww), I’d just say in stern tone, “SIR, how would you like it if somebody did that to YOUR daughter??? Do your children even know where you are now??” Then I’d just shake my head, turn around. Old creep no longer exists, yuck!

    Crotch gamer my ass, heehee. You see, girls get dozens of weirdos, puas, and losers hit on them all night long. We smell a creep (with or w/o blog) a mile away. :) ))

  • West LA

    @ Anonymous #25, thanks for the info.

    Roosh, I read your short story ‘Sour Dick Sucking Lips’ (helluva title). That’s some very good writing Roosh. Sincerely. I want to read more stories like that from you. This may be one of your best ways to make use of your gaming experience in writing (rather than just joining the crowd of guys who offer advice). There must be a decent market for that kind of story-telling.
    Probably independent of established magazines.
    Are you planning to write more game stories?
    Hope so.

  • F Baltimore

    It is getting this way everywhere in America – women are just getting uglier and fatter. The states is becoming a pussy cartel. In due time we will simply have just a handful of good looking females and only the rich and famous will be able to fight over them. The rest of us will be SOL and no amount of “game” will do shit.

  • Roosh

    WestLa: I think you’ll like what I have lined up next week.

  • Nancy Twilight

    You banned me, beard boy! Scared of little girls? BOOO! heehee. I knew it was a “sausage fest only” blog so you and that dorky G can practice condom-free ass-crotch game on each other.

    None of the stuff you got on here is a secret for any girl over the age of 16. A bottle of shampoo will do more to your game than any of your overanalytical crapola. LOL

  • AR

    ^ Another female who has no idea how her unconscious/fuzzy logic/lower brain takes over for her rational mind when she is in a club/bar.

    And that is why Game arose.

    On a more important note, LA is not the panacea all these above posters make it out to be. Having been born and raised here, and having visited Sixth Street one great weekend, Austin kicks L.A.’s ass all over the map.

    Much less pretense, far fewer poseurs, far more old-fashioned, chivalry-inviting, good-looking girls.

  • E

    “And that is why Game arose.

    On a more important note, LA is not the panacea all these above posters make it out to be. Having been born and raised here, and having visited Sixth Street one great weekend, Austin kicks L.A.’s ass all over the map.

    Much less pretense, far fewer poseurs, far more old-fashioned, chivalry-inviting, good-looking girls.”

    Hey, now, I like Santa Monica, but I did say Austin is GREAT place.

    What makes Austin girls so great is that they are NICE & FRIENDLY.

    It is like a breath of fresh air to go to Austin and meet cute & pretty girls who are flirty and nice.

  • AR

    “26 Anonymous
    1 day, 10 hours ago
    west LA -

    the entire 3rd street promenade is ridiculous. you have tourists plus locals (the beautiful people) going to the gym and shopping. it�s absurd. the bar �Britannia� is a great place to meet a lot of people in a very casual environment that really accommodates �bumping into new people� �think afternoon drinking. 100% awesome.

    also, main street in SM is sick. also, abbot kinney blvd. in venice is a mortal lock on weds-sat. check out â��first fridaysâ�� for unbelievable public drunkeness and status whoring.”

    And status whoring is desirable, how?

    Venice may have some chill girls, but I am beginning to fear that the pickup culture in SM and Hollywood is hopelessly contaminated with the warped self-images of all the failed thespians.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone who says LA is a good place fucking has never been there. Good luck having any success with hot girls unless you are a millionaire and driving nothing less than a 50,000 dollar car minimum.

    No other place in the world is more status obsessed than LA. A hot girl would rather date a 50 year old fat guy who is a millionaire than a normal good looking 30 year old.

  • Mr. Korea

    Don’t see why so many people are bitter toward Roosh. He’s pretty honest about himself and he has some really good advice. What’s wrong with experiencing the world while you still have some youth left?

    Now G Manifesto on the other hand, deserves all the shit that he gets. What a fuckin clown, seriously. It might be therapeutic for him to have his little internet fantasies, but he’s started to believe his own bullshit by now. He’s too far gone for any help at this point.

    When you read his shit, it’s almost like he’s trying as hard to convince himself as he is everyone else (and he tries damn hard at that too).

    What’s his deal? Did some kid with asperger syndrome watch too many blaxploitation flicks or something?

  • Tino

    “Anyone who says LA is a good place fucking has never been there. Good luck having any success with hot girls unless you are a millionaire and driving nothing less than a 50,000 dollar car minimum.

    No other place in the world is more status obsessed than LA. A hot girl would rather date a 50 year old fat guy who is a millionaire than a normal good looking 30 year old.”

    This is bullcaca. I personally don’t like LA much, but I will repeat, this is bullcaca.

    Yeah, there are a lot of gold diggers in LA, but saying you have to be a millionaire to get any action in LA is a fucking lie, and you know it.

    You are probably ugly, have no game and are broke.

    Although, I will agree with you about the car thing. Driving a nice car seriously helps with the pick up.

    In fact, not having a nice car in LA can ruin a pick up quick.

  • Anonymous

    tino: full of shit fag. your idea of a hot chick is probably a 200 pound whale. go back to being a bottom for your faggot bf.

  • Anonymous

    G is a total fucking clown, true. Roosh only partially so for bsing about his abilities to pick up chicks.

  • Anonymous

    unkempt, unemployed 31 y.o. bro living with parents – typical PUA leader with internet fantasies.

  • Sue

    Dumbest thing he did for his game is post pictures of himself. To any girl it’s obvious that there’s no connection and nothing happened afterwards; he just weaseled his way in b/c girls were nice enough to let him.

    If G, and plethora of other gamers out there posted their pics, it would be very obvious what kind of game they pull. Looks tell way more than a thousand theories they develop. Roosh got dummy eyes, which can be cute on a younger guy but at his age it’s a MAJOR turn off that sets off creep radar.

  • skull fucker

    Yo, G man, I’ll double what you make a month on amazon commissions if you post your pic. Nice little addition to your bankroll of $1′s and $5′s. Real talk. Straight up, G.

  • http://paultheking.wordpress.com paultheking

    I’ve never seen so many haters.. you’re the man Roosh no matter what these monkeys say.. dont forget that they are posting on YOUR site. haha tools

    paultheking’s last blog post: plausible deniability = CASH.

  • http://www.chicnoirhouse.blogspot.com Chic Noir

    The reason Hammerjacks kept me interested for so long was because those girls I was grinding my junk on were babyfaced teenagers who weren’t technically from Baltimore

    I sure hope you mean 18 and 19 yearold teenagers

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  • http://www.chicnoirhouse.blogspot.com Chic Noir

    I can only hope you are talking about 18-19 year old teenagers

    Chic Noir’s last blog post: As The Chateau Turns-episode the big breakfast.

  • Anonymous

    @47
    I used to think that G was a parody of thug life. Now, I’m not so sure. He seems to be an autistic shut-in who reads too many magazines, travel guides, and has seen too many gangster movies.
    You cannot, in the age of Google, expect people to believe all of the BS that he writes.
    Most of his blog is cut and pasted from various sites. The other stuff is completely bogus.
    I demand proof of his exploits, or I will lead a charge against all of his crap.
    Roosh, he reflects poorly on you. Who’s going to believe you if you let people lie all over your comment section?

  • Dickzilla

    Roosh’s best quality is honesty and notably he never mentioned what was the average quality of women he bangs. I’m guessing he mostly pulls 3-4 on a 10-point scale and that’s what his theories are worth. But associating with G definitely pulls his credibility down.

  • Anonymous

    they’re both dorks but at least Roosh has traveled and is honest

  • farc

    LA is a freak show. Pudgy tattooed swarthy proles everywhere, and tons of 48 year old dudes with rasta hats and eyebrow piercings and otherwise questionable tastes. I do not understand these people trying to sell southern California. Maybe 25 years ago when some actual Americans still lived there it was OK. It’s definitely no place for a middle class white guy anymore. San Diego is less of a freak show, but it’s still nothing to write home about. Also, the the gender ratio difference is highly noticeable; there are tons of dudes.

    I was on the beach in Santa Monica for a good chunk of the day yesterday and was pretty much disgusted. I counted more attractive women on my way out of the airport back east this morning than I saw all afternoon in LA.

    There are some nice individual neighborhoods in socal, but the only reason to leave the north east for socal is if you’re a pussy about winter weather.

  • Charm City

    You’re going to the wrong areas. Fells Point has been on a steep decline over the past few years and Federal Hill and Canton have been bad for a while now.

    The fail safe in Baltimore is the North Charles/ Station North corridor along with now Hampden. Go to Red Maple at 930 North Charles Street for a good looking lounge type atmosphere. Further up on Charles Street you’ll want to hit the Club Charles (younger hipsters, artsy chicks) on the 1700 Block of Charles Street across from the Charles Theater (lot of Charles I know). Also sometimes the Metro Gallery on the same block has bands or art openings worth gaming. A little up the way you’ll find the Wind Up Space on North Avenue. WARNING: This area is, uhhhhh….gentrifying, and the Wind Up is about on the edge of all that. It’s worth checking out though. Just watch your back. Down North Avenue there’s also Joe’s Squared Pizza which has DJs and Bands late night.

    Between Station North and Hampden there is, of course, The Ottobar on North Howard St. The upstairs is always no cover and the downstairs has some good bands. I’ve never had success there, but I know others who have.

    In Hampden there’s Rocket to Venus on Chestnut and 34th St. This is Hipster Chick Central. Don’t wash your hair and you’ll do fine. There’s also several places along “The Avenue” which is 36th Street in Hampden.

    If all else fails, get some coke and hit the After Hours at 1722 – back at 1722 North Charles Street. It’s a dance club with a sparse crowd and primarily gay clientele. But the women that show up are good to go. I have the best ratio of picking up chicks for one night stands in this place of anywhere on earth – somewhere in the 60 percentile range.

    Baltimore’s scene has just moved. A lot of the locals got priced out of Fells and relocated further north to Hampden and thereabouts. It’s been happening for a while now. Also it’s true what G Manifesto says about nightlife on the whole in America being on the decline. When the underground is being driven by hipsters, bad things happen.

  • AR

    “53 farc

    LA is a freak show. Pudgy tattooed swarthy proles everywhere, and tons of 48 year old dudes with rasta hats and eyebrow piercings and otherwise questionable tastes. I do not understand these people trying to sell southern California. Maybe 25 years ago when some actual Americans still lived there it was OK. It’s definitely no place for a middle class white guy anymore.”

    I’m not a middle-class white guy, but I like white girls, so I agree.

    “40 Anonymous

    Anyone who says LA is a good place fucking has never been there.

    No other place in the world is more status obsessed than LA.”

    I blame the immigrants (specifically Persians and Armenians). Don’t worry I’m not white, so I can do that.

  • FARC

    40,

    I think the money obsession is because the difference in quality of life in LA between middle class and wealthy is more stark than most other places I’ve been. Normal means get you a shitty one level house near a freeway, on which you regularly sit stalled in traffic. A few mill to throw around gets you beach front or up in the hills with a nice view, with interesting and attractive neighbours as opposed to the regular socal freak show. The difference in quality of life just isn’t as big in most American cities.

    I have a feeling the country club scene in LA is where it’s at. It’s probably a great place to be rich — much more so than NYC.

  • AR

    Good point, Farc.
    Brings to the fore a thought that started out in the back of my mind growing up in SoCal – a big class divide can have an equally big negative impact on the ‘gameability’ of its women.
    The large, huddled masses of middle and lower class women, stressed out by their low status, and aspiring to be like the higher class women, take on the higher class womens’ level of entitlement/self-value in their attitude.
    It’s a toxic brew.

  • Fireworks56

    Good dialogue on this page… the expansion to gaming specific cities/countries is a welcome addition to your writings, Roosh. Kudos to living a life where you follow your passions and sharing it with your readers! Dare I say the more interesting and successful men with women tend to be more cultured, intellectually curious, travel more, and even so, would appreciate some heads up tips to save them precious vacation/business travel time spent figuring out the local cultures/venues?

    It may become tedious to stay up to date on specific venues but cultural changes will probably be less rapid so that approach will be less burdensome to keep current.

    It fascinates me to see so many ridiculous comments on a single post (been reading for about 6 months since moving to DC), anyone who has really spent any amount of dedicated time in bars/pickup knows that Roosh knows what he’s talking about. Unless you’re over or flirting with triple digit notches (of course, with women that you would happily hold hands with in public) one is still likely to be a) oblivious and/or b) jealous instead of taking the a) time and b) effort and perhaps c) growing pains and take some lumps to incorporate some appropriate tips from Roosh that would meld well with your style of interaction with women. Personal growth and being willing to adapt is never always easy and only those that really want it realize it.