The interactions with women are what PUa’s call direct game, and am honest.

The only way I will go beyond four dates with no sex in an honest way is that

1. She has not slutted around before meeting me. i.e. I am not the special guy who has to prove she is special for him, before she puts out. Sorry ladies, that is not an honor to be special, it is a curse and an insult.

2. While deeming me special and enjoying my company, seeing if I am more than an eager dick, she is not giving it away to some bootycall or random stranger.

After this point, or even at the first meeting after the first ten minutes when I sense this is going to be pulled on me, she leaves the “be honest” zone, and enters the “ultimate sports fuck, not rules apply” zone.

Ladies, I was honest and upfront. About an interaction of shared good experience.

You wanted to play.

We play.

I play to win.

24mac1:

“It is ALWAYS up to the man to lead the woman forward, as to how far she will go sexually is totally up to him and how strong his game is.”

his is called plausible deniability on the woman’s side, making you carry all the responsibility.

This responsibility does not require to act responsibly tho. Women chickening out from rejection etc, but you not, gives you the right to play the game the way you want to play, with no need to account for it to any given woman who has not been honest or has been playing mindgames.

I must disagree with the post, it all falls on the guy. If a woman does not want to have sex and you have to pressure her to do it with you then you are basically begging for sex, which makes you pathetic. Even if she gives in, she is doing just that, giving in and is not really into you nor will the sexual experience be any good to you or her. Trust me, if you are the MAN and exude that authority and behavior to a normal woman, whether she seem frigid or not, she will respond in a way that will give you “permission” if you will, to move forward and get more and more sexual with her.

It is all about how she percieves you as a man, even if this woman wants to hold out until marriage, I can garauntee she will give it up if you send her the right signals that causes her to feel that intense desire for sex from YOU.

Another thing I disagree with is this point, women don’t have game, only men do. While women (yes i said women) are desined to chase men, they do not really know how which is why they seem like they don’t. Most women, about 99.9% of them have no clue of what they REALLY want nor how to get it from a REAL man. It is ALWAYS up to the man to lead the woman forward, as to how far she will go sexually is totally up to him and how strong his game is.

I guess the only time it matter is when you’re trying to use The Rules on a guy.

But again, if you have to Rules him, then you’re probably not all that compatible in the first place.

I’m one two comments away from beating Kassy!

After a dog is used to being on a leash, he loses the will to escape.
that’s sooo not true! my dog always tries to escape! you know some well- behavied dogs…

i don’t understand witholding sex for more than 3 dates. i feel very proud of myself if i can get past one if i’m really attracted to the guy.

Only the most comfy foreplay position ever…at least imho. It’s where the dude kneels on the bed and the lady lays down and kind of curls around him and goes down on him while he uses his hand on her snatch. See it now?

Also, damn way to say it Gunslinger. Damn!! woot

Damn it I had an interesting comment about pulling out my janks and asking her…. “want some dick”… oh well

I can’t get sexually involved in less than 5 dates. If I do, I get sick of the guy very soon and kinda lose a bit of respect for him. It takes me awhile to get to the point where I feel comfortable enough to open myself up to someone in that way. There has to be a build up og genuine feelings there or the whole thing is pointless.