10 Things I Learned From Touring The American Midwest

I’ve been writing about America and its culture for over a decade, but I’m afraid I’m not as knowledgeable about the entire country as I would like to be. Nearly all of my experiences come from Washington DC and New York City, two cities that are distinct from the rest of the nation. While there is great overlap between them and other American cities, the differences are significant enough that an American man may choose to not write off the country completely.

In my recent Midwest tour I spent time in five cities:

  • Sioux Falls, South Dakota
  • Omaha, Nebraska
  • Lincoln, Nebraska
  • Kansas City, Missouri
  • Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Here’s my video report:

The big outlier is Kansas City, a multicultural and generic city. If someone blindfolded you and dropped you there, you would have difficulty identifying which city it is since it serves as a template for Any Mega City, USA. Because of the high numbers of Hispanics and blacks, I felt like I was in a slightly safer Baltimore.

The rest of the cities can be somewhat generalized as one, even though there are certainly differences between them. Here is what I noticed about the Midwest, excluding Kansas City:

Very high white population

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In Nebraska and South Dakota, you can go a long time without seeing a minority. In fact, I was the darkest person in the many venues I stepped foot into. I was actually amazed that parts of America could be as white as Eastern Europe, and they’re not even in the top ten of whitest states.

People use their smartphones significantly less

I would see large groups of girls talking to each other without having their phones out, which is quite rare in Washington DC. There were several points where I noticed that I was on my phone much more than those who surrounded me, making me feel ashamed.

No gays

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I did not see more than two gay couples in four days, and the gays I saw were not overtly flaming. It’s almost as if I was in a homosexual free zone.

People are incredibly nice

While I receive more eye contact in a place like Poland, I received many more smiles here. In Oklahoma City, in the dead of night without anyone else around, a woman walking her dogs said “Hello” to me, a gesture that I don’t experience anywhere else. The evil part of me couldn’t help but think that people this nice could be easily taken advantage of. Maybe we can convince them to do all sort of crazy things in the name of “equality” or their own “safety.”

Very high social trust with deep social networks

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Now I know why I’m not a big hit among men in the Midwest: my cold approach game would get you quickly marked in your town and ostracized. The best strategy here is to have a lot of friends and date the women in your social circle. Without a social circle in the Midwest, you’re a bit screwed when it comes to landing the best women, who get snapped up soon in college or even high school. If a girl in the Midwest is single past the age of 25, she likely has serious issues that make her an unsuitable mate. She’ll relocate to DC or NYC to try for a Sex And The City lifestyle of experiencing a few rounds of alpha male cock before she has to go back home a broken woman, lamenting about her fun days in the big city.

Obesity is a serious problem

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People here are fatter than in the coastal cities, and unfortunately this has impacted the women. All the benefits of women being friendlier and not addicted to smartphones doesn’t matter much if she’s a land whale.

It doesn’t take long in the Midwest to notice that the food culture is horrendous: the most popular foods are fried and loaded with simple carbs and salt with hardly any vegetables. Even worse is that that carries over into the home—they’re not preparing salads and healthy foods in their kitchens. The food is tasty, of course, but it makes you feel like crap and also causes constipation because of the lack of fiber.

Men are more masculine and woman are more feminine

The men are heavily into sports, hunting, machinery, and hanging out with the guys. The women are more girly and elegant with longer hair. While Midwest women are not as feminine as Eastern European women, they do put out a more down-to-Earth vibe that is less snobbish. The only difficulty is that it’s harder to tell in the beginning of an interaction if a Midwest girl is sexually attracted to you or just being her normal self. In more stand-offish cultures, like Ukraine, it’s easier to know where you stand with a girl if she merely talks to you for more than a couple minutes.

It’s significantly cheaper

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Washington DC is expensive. You get screwed not only for housing but for food and entertainment. The implied contract is that you work like a slave in your big city job that gives you a flashy business card so you can experience the finest distractions and colorful lights that mankind has to offer without ever being bored. That contract is a bad deal if you’re not a mindless sheep, especially when you consider that the bigger the city, the more likely a girl will participate in anonymous sex through nightlife and Tinder that makes her an unsuitable dating partner.

I’m not too familiar with the average salaries in the Midwest, but even if it’s lower than DC/NYC, the costs you experience there are so much less that you should still come out on top. Don’t let the big city lights seduce you: it’s a trap that inserts you into the rat race with very little opportunity to get out.

You’ll need a car

The Midwest consists of huge expanses of space. When a city wants to grow, it spreads outwards instead of upwards. This means you must have a car, even if you intend to live in the center of the city where the concept of public transportation has yet to catch on. Whatever the Midwest gains from the friendliness of the people is partially lost with the atomization of everyone driving in their car box for much of the day.

It could be a good place to raise a family

The place that stuck out the most for me was Sioux Falls. If I want to know what a “traditional” America looks like, this is perhaps the closest I’ll get (until I visit the Mountain West), though I would have to spend more time here to understand the marriage and religion dynamic. Yes, people are overweight and there also some corrupting influences, but I can say this with certainty: it’s less corrupting than a large Eastern European city like Warsaw, Poland. If I were to marry a village Ukrainian girl tomorrow, I’d prefer to live with her in Sioux Falls than Warsaw. This doesn’t even account for the fact that there are tons of towns smaller than Sioux Falls (population 150,000) that could be better for family life.

Conclusion

I’ll be the first to admit that my analysis of American culture mostly applies to large cities with high transient populations that have weaker social connections. If a man knows his neighbors and maintains long-term relationships with his friends from school, he won’t need cold approach game to meet a girl (he’ll just need game to keep her). But if he lives in a big, expensive city where he changes jobs and apartments frequently and where his friends move to different cities, he’s simply not going to have a strong enough social circle where he can meet attractive women, so he’s much more likely to find my advice helpful, which will be required just to get laid.

While Washington DC is a good place to generalize about American people since it attracts transplants from all over, it’s important to stress that it attracts the outliers from theose states. If a girl from South Dakota comes to DC to work for a non-profit, she is definitely not a typical girl from South Dakota who—if her sexual market value had been good and her mind sane—finds a good man to settle down with before 25 years of age.

At the same time you shouldn’t generalize about America from DC or NYC, our masters are using the same template where family and tribal bonds are being destroyed and replaced with dependence on corporations and the government. Most of you reading right now are from a Western city greater than 2 million people, meaning that the advice and observations I have for you mostly holds true, even if you’re not American. The fact that the advice I give to men is also applicable to those living in England, Canada, Australia, and even India is both convenient and disturbing.

Thanks to my trip to the Midwest, I finally understand why so many guys don’t understand me and often spout game denialist statements like, “Game is stupid, you just have to be a good guy and have some friends.” They say these things because they have a deep social network or are from smaller cities where game does not work in the same way it does in the big cities, or at least where it’s not as required to meet a girl who weighs less than 140 pounds.

I’m not going to change my advice to deal with small towns, especially since most of my readers live in big cities, but at least now I understand why so many men don’t see the point of what I teach. If only I was as lucky as them to grow up in a normal town with normal people whose minds aren’t addicted to the junk that comes out of New York City and Hollywood. Since I’m not, and since I continue to live in big cities, I must use game practices to sleep with women I desire, but now I’m definitely curious about other places in America that could be even better than what I saw in the Midwest.

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When you tour the South, visit Memphis, TN (during ‘Memphis in May’ would be a good time). I would be interested in your thoughts on it. If you want suburban life then take a visit to Collierville, TN

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I agree I would like to hear his commentary on Memphis. I went there once. It had a unique vibe, not bland at all like Toronto, or what Kansas City looked like in his video.

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Memphis to me is 80% Baltimore, 20% unique and cool and fun. There’s not a LOT to do there, but there are some really interesting areas.

I didn’t realize Kentucky was in the top 10 whitest states until reading this article, but I would recommend visiting Louisville, especially around April 15th they have a HUGE party with the biggest fireworks show in the nation, as they open up the derby racing. I’ve been several years, and it’s a lot of fun. Plus you can tour the Bourbon distilleries and it’s a fun, friendly, cheapish city. Also lots of caves if you are into that.

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Bardstown KY is like mecca for Bourbon lovers. Bourbonfest in particular is well worth it.

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Come to Louisville and I’ll show you around. Bardstown is also a nice little town, only about 35 minutes to the South. Plus, Ft Knox is just as close and can be interesting. The Corvette factory and museum is in Bowling Green, just 90 minutes away.

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I have a cousin up there, also used to spend some time there with a yankee girl I was dating up north, we’d meet in Louisville. I’ve done the bourbon trail. The huge Thunder on the Mtn fireworks show in April is a blast. Plus it’s a town on a river. Seems like a fun place, I’ll hit you up if I’m ever back up that way. Are you attending the meetup next week? I’m hoping that will be a great way to network with like-minded men.

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Yes. Looks like Cincinnati is closest for me.

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Memphis is a fun spot if one is into music and unhealthy “soul” food. Roosh should also go to Beale Street and drive through the Whitehaven neighborhood and visit Graceland (Elvis’ mansion) as well.

I think that Roosh would actually like Dallas. I’ve been there a few times, and there are a lot of beautiful women there.

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Whats your thoughts on Nashville? Heard its alot of fun, but accomidations are expensive. I live in the Philly area, and thinking about doing a road trip.

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Nashville is a good place too, but totally different from Memphis. I would recommend the trip. Memphis and Nashville each have a unique flavor, so one should not think that “if you visit one, you visit both”. Memphis is about “soul” music and Nashville is about country music. Memphis is also much blacker (population-wise) than Nashville.

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Nashville is the best kept secret in the country. Beautiful women, reasonable cost of living, low taxes, lots of outdoor activities and some great restaurants. Worth a look.

Memphis however – well, great ribs and music, but bring your body armor.

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Yeah, Roosh, come down South and I’ll show you around. I think you’ll find the South even better than the Midwest. Overall the best women are still in some places in the South.

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Also, lots of Germans and Nordics, which no doubt is a huge contributor to the appeal of Midwesterners and the Midwest. Of all Americans, I get along with these people the best.

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indeed. these are “true” white people

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Huh. I’m part German, but also Czech, British, Irish, Dutch, French and Canadian. I wonder if that still makes me white.

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Mostly.

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Yawn. There are no true White people. Whites are White. Regardless if they originate from Germany, Portugal or Croatia.

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Roosh, when are you coning to California? It’s like a whole other country here. And I mean that in a (mostly) good way. You must check out the dating scene in Orange County. Incredibly entertaining.

Incidentally, there are tons of people from the Midwest here, ranging from recent college grads from Minnesota to people whose families have been here for generations.

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I haven’t heard good things about California.

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You have to see it for yourself. It’s by far the most interesting and varied state in America without even a close second. You haven’t experienced America without visiting California.

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Naturally, it should be – for comparison, if the Eastern seaboard had a California sized state it would extend from Massachusetts to South Carolina and include Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore and DC and people as varied as the Yankee Puritans, Amish, Pennsylvania Dutch, Virginia Cavaliers, Scots-Irish, Tidewater denizens and various Cityfolk.

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It’s a geographical paradise, ruined by its taxes and politics.

ShadowRising
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True. It really pisses me off as it’s such a waste of a beautiful place.

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It happens to a lot of them. Hawaii, now Colorado and Florida are going the same way. Other than genocide, I wish I had an answer.

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Laguna Beach That is a part of Orange country California that you need to try out. I grew up near there. It was wonderful and horrible watching it change. But there are still great people and places there. And without a doubt very beautiful woman (that is where I found my wife) California changes by the mile. Neighborhoods that are not far apart, they can have totally different characters. If you go, you need a local guild. But then again you seem to be getting more serious. Maybe the smaller cities in the “red” parts of the USA, are where you will find whatever it is you are looking for.

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I grew up in Laguna…went to LBHS, then moved back east on a baseball scholarship. Girls in HS were hot; lots of cuties coming from well-to-do-families. Avg home price in Laguna is 1.3M or around there. Now, that market and the dating market or the SMP are (2) different things. Surely, there are a few OC babes around, but past a certain age, from what I can tell (folks still live off PCH) the girls are just a vapid, clueless and already thinking about cosmetic enhancements while glued to their ifags. Where do you hang LBF? Along PCH and its many venues? I’m sure the chicks are shopping for resources anywhere along PCH, and should be categorized in the Pump and Dumps with perhaps a few outliers available. Stick with plan A and mill around in Prague subways or some other county known for fine ~feminine~ women. What’s your luck up the road in Javier’s…isn’t that where Kobe B et al hang out..Also my step dad told me last year that the homo’s kinda left for Palm Springs.

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Oh you were a local. You are likely the best guy in the world, but wow a lot (most) of the guy from LBHS were total douchebags. I used to surf there, so you probably have an idea why I do not like the local guys. When they are not making the mistake of harassing a none local surfer, they aggressively cock block. I’m not shocked to hear that the girls who stayed there into their thirties, could grow to be a wee bit shallow. But in their youth they were fine. And they liked the new guys in town just fine, which might be another reason the local guys hated us.

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I’ve found that most So Cal guys in general are cunty and love to cock block. Go elsewhere and you don’t find that as much.

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I lived in Newport for awhile. It is just like you and others have said here, chicks are very attractive but vapid as hell and they’re only concerned about how much money you make.

IMO, Newport and Laguna are the only places to live down there if you want to live in that environment. My favorite neighborhood was Corona Del Mar. Some nice bars with a slightly better crowd than their douchey counterparts in other parts of Newport.

Laguna is also very nice and seemed more laid back than Newport.

Everywhere else around there sucks. Irvine is completely soulless and only has 1 bar…and it’s in a strip mall to boot. All surrounding areas are borderline ghetto but still want $1400/month rent for a 1 bedroom apartment.

I wouldn’t go back now unless I became filthy rich and then I’d buy a place in Newport or Laguna and pump and dump all the women who are looking for a rich husband.

P.S.–It’s weird how many people there are on here from OC.

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all those nice socal cities are just like central/north nj and parts of CT..full of well to do people. not a good representation of the rest of the USA

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Orange County is still one of the better economies. Real estate, old money and well planned cities and towns. Very conservative too. Really expensive though.The weather is amazing and a lot of beautiful women.Not a lot of vibe and atmosphere though, very generic and soulless with strip malls unless your literally on the coast .The only problem is its all about money there. Women are genius at gaming and seeing what your worth and if you have money. Hypergamy is the name of the game there. Best chances are maybe finding a hot latina that hasnt been to cuntified and still has her feet on the ground. Forget about white girls from O.C unless you’re a surfer or come from money. Laguna Beach is an amazing small town. Stay south O.C. North O.C is being taken over by asians and latinos.

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South OC lacks character, as its all irvine company strip malls. No soul whatsoever. North as you said has become way too enriched.

Central oc is the only quaint area, with the exception of santa ana which is a shit hole. I’m from tustin, and it’s changed relatively little over the decades. Orange is ok too but it’s been going downhill for awhile now..

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Don’t even get me started on the Irvine Company…

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You heard correctly. Overpriced, a logistical nightmare and run by retards. Better off in EE.

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Entertaining? I suppose that is one way of putting it…

Laguna beach eh? How’s all the homeless people and fags down there treatin ya?

Sadly laguna is the only liberal city in otherwise conservative OC

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socal is just like anywhere on the east coast..tons of superficial upper middle class girls who are delusional and have no concept of reality

the “bro” was the west coast version of the “guido” but i think that trend has died down …

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Thanks for this. Big city mentality is not everywhere, but it is spreading.

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Even in scotland, if I mention i’ve been in new york, some girls have their pussies go wet. Its pathetic and really sad that women are reduced to this. Or maybe the vast majority have always been shallow and short-sighted and I didn’t notice until I got past my early twenties.

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I’ve got to hang out where you do. I’ve been to New York plenty of times. Please pass this tidbit on to Karen Gillan.

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Thanks for getting out of your bubble. I was actually tempted to do an entry on where game theory breaks down for small towns. Turns out it’s a lot if places. It still works mind you, but you can’t just go a round ‘nexting’ every girl who annoys you in the slightest.

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“If a girl in the Midwest is single past the age of 25, she likely has serious issues that make her an unsuitable mate. She’ll relocate to DC or NYC to try for a Sex And The City lifestyle of experiencing a few rounds of alpha male cock before she has to go back home a broken woman, lamenting about her fun days in the big city.”

Classic. This is why I read your work, sir. I would never hear Tom Brokaw utter such truth.

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Genuine point here – when is a woman finished for a genuine long-term relationship? I would’ve said that I don’t know of any woman being a good enough catch once she has passed the age of 21/22 and then meets her long term partner. I know a lot of men will disagree and say their partner is different or that this rule does not really apply – but for westernised females, they have had so much cock from such a young age and their standards can go through the roof in their mid-twenties; they are no longer realistic long term dating prospects for all decent men once they hit their mid-twenties. The only reason mid-twenties women seem like decent prospects is because of a skewed media promoting them and weaker men who are forced to accept this behaviour – its all a mass delusion that a society promoting such women is sustainable and that such women are really desirable over a longer period of time.

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Well, to say the mid twenties is a guideline that provides some frame of reference. It might not be a 100%, but it at least gives you something to work with. Without such guidelines, men are lost.

I also think it’s a question of percentages. With every year that a group of women age, the percentage of them that are suitable mates will decrease. So you could find a good one in the batch, but your odds will be lower.

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Perhaps some women in america can retain good potential up to and past their mid-twenties. I feel that in certain other more socialist countries, the general age at which women drop off the quality radar en-masse tends to be the early twenties as well; this applies to more population-dense countries and liberal/socialist environments (Europe, certain parts of the US), since they have access to more cock per square mile and so are even less useful for anything approaching a longterm monogamous relationship.

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Women like experienced men for relationships but I’m sure that unless the guy is a cuck, most men will understand that women with fewer previous sex partners are better. Its just that most women are brainwashed idiots who after equality think that the same standards they hold for men apply in reverse, so its okay to get lots of dick and they will still be quality and desirable for men, apparently.

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“Its just that most women are brainwashed idiots who after equality think that the same standards they hold for men apply in reverse”

The amount of idiots who think like that is astounding.

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I think it was Edward Bernays who acting for the US intelligence agency at that time, in 1925, discovered that only 10% of the population actually think. This is covered in his book ‘propaganda’. Since most people are mindless drones who copy whatever they see (especially from TV), its like ‘monkey see, monkey do’. Whilst this applies to men, women are even more prone to suggestibility, hence why feminism is such a cop-out. Its just full of whiny entitled women who haven’t earned their station, who are programmed with bull5hit just to enable a small ‘elite’ to run the country. Western women really need an attitude adjustment – which the men will end up paying for with their lives, as our elite use feminism and other methods to undermine the country and bring us to the brink of war.

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“Propoganda” is an excellent book.

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Walter Lippmann’s Public Opinion and the Phantom Public

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“The evil part of me couldn’t help but think that people this nice could be easily taken advantage of.”

Somehow I get the feeling that you’re not the first person to think this way …

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I’ve lived mostly in Illinois and Missouri and neither of you would stand a chance.

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What are you talking about? Try to make sense if you can … ah forget it, it looks like you just entirely missed the point of my comment …

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And provides all requisite evidence of the point.

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You do realize that a Jewish person doesn’t ask to be born Jewish, right?
Same as a black man doesn’t have a choice if he was born black.
Same as a man with a birth mark on his face didn’t ask for that…
ect. ect.

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You do realize the racist religion of Judaism (it considers all non-Jews to be non-Human beasts to be exploited, robbed, and killed at whim so long as no overt backlash comes to their Supremacist Mania System — read the Talmud) has strongly self-selected for sociopathic & psychopathic genetic traits.

Exceptions are not the rule.
A society cannot be stable if it constantly favors the positive exceptions to the destabilizing detriment of the majority.
Not all Jews are evil to the mitochondria. Not all blacks are rapist cannibals. However, the exceptions are of insufficient percentage representations to make any notable difference in the overall genetic outcome of history.

If all blacks were truly blessings to the world I would care nothing about their skin color as the skin color by itself is not evil or destabilizing. Unfortunately, the black skin is quite highly a very accurate statistical sign of a dangerous human that is untrustworthy and carried a high genetic load of psychopathic behavior. 80% of all children born from a psychopath and a non-psychopath will be psychopathic. 80% of those offspring will also be psychopathic. For as long as the psychopathic geneline continues, the offspring will carry this high probability of this behavior.

Blacks are not people that statistically benefit Whites with their presence. I do not want them as neighbors or coworkers.

http://www.amren.com/news/2015/11/what-donald-trump-should-have-tweeted/
If New York City were 100% White the crime rates would be down for:
The rates of Rape would be reduced by 83%.
Murder would be reduced by 93%.
Shooting would be reduced by 96%.

These figures are from New York City’s annual crime report. The report does not calculate crime rates for a hypothetical all-white New York City–the police chief would be fired if he did that–but it includes demographics for the city as follows: Whites: 32.8 percent, Blacks: 22.6 percent, Hispanics: 28.9 percent. To calculate the murder rate if the city were all white, you divide the percentage of arrests that are white by the white percentage of the population: 2.9 percent ÷ 32.8 percent = 8.84 percent. That results in a reduction in the crime rate of: 100 percent – 8.84 percent = 91.16 percent. [See below if you didn’t follow that.]

You can also calculate how much more likely a black or Hispanic is to be arrested for a violent crime than a white. For murder, a black is 31 times more likely and a Hispanic is 9 times more likely. A black is an astonishing 77 times more likely than a white to be arrested for a lethal or non-lethal shooting, and a Hispanic 18 times more likely. Guns are a problem alright–but the problem is overwhelmingly because of blacks and Hispanics, not whites. Despite liberal dogma, these figures represent real racial differences in crime rates, not police bias.

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I have met a handful of jews i liked, one whom I considered a decent man (although pro-israel); my problem is with the racial supremacy aspect and how our society is engineered to favour jews and to eliminate all others. It is a consistent problem since they have been kicked out of 109 countries since 250 AD as well as killing Christ, poisoning muhammad, communism killing 100 million etc etc

At what point do you admit that whilst they cannot help being born into the jew cult – that it still is a cult which socially engineers the vast majority of people under it to do great evil? Considering jews incorrectly claim to be a small 13 million in number globally (its much more than that according to certain jewish scholars), why is it that they are consistently pointed out by so many others (muslims, christians, other groups too) as being wicked? They cannot help it, but the sociopathic mindset of being ‘chosen’ means that they see others as being less than human.

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Just the usual resentment against achievement – again.

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What achievement is that? Manipulation? Why shouldn’t that be resented?

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Conducting a State within a State is not achievement. It’s warfare.

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Wow how perceptive … so what’s your point? Should blacks be excused from the inordinate violence they commit since they did not have a choice in being born black?

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“Jew gotta prolem’ mayn?”

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I’m from Kentucky and i can attest that most of this here is accurate when describing Kentucky. Obesity is a huge problem here and is worst than in most of the US. It cheap. You will definitely need a car. Nobody is openly homosexual here. The white women here are more feminine. An cold approach here are welcome but most you might get out of it is a number and won’t get you laid. I personalty don’t know anyone who has ever had a one night stand. Smart Phone use is just as common as elsewhere though but not during social events. The majority of young people here get married and have children soon after high school or college.

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I wouldn’t say this place is a conservative utopia due to sheer amount poverty here, poor education, and obesity real does lower the quality of man women here. Many Kentuckians are unhealthy and unattractive people mostly due to poverty. On top of that many of the small towns here are losing their small town charm and feel to them as they become more and more dominated by corporate businesses(more fast food restraints, more supermarkets, ect..) and look more like miniature cities than small towns and people are becoming less social and more atomize. Neither the less i would rather live here than in the bigger American cities simply due to familiarity and peace and quite and because the problems we discus on this website aren’t has terminal as elsewhere.

But the white, middle class cites, suburbs and neighborhoods are fairly good places to be though and the women among that group are quite nice, friendly and attractive and somewhat religious if that matters to you. Many of them of college educated and work but most of them have no problem being housewife IF you can pay to maintain their middle class lives.

If you plan on living here in Kentucky then i would suggest living in either Lexington, Louisville, or Bowling Green since these are the college towns and where the women are and avoid everything in the Appalachian far east of the state due to the crushing poverty(among the worst in the nation) and backwardness of that area.

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utah (except for salt lake city) was the same when i lived there, except that there wasn’t much of an obesity problem.

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Its interesting you offer this point of view as the general consensus seems to be that ALL american women are sluts, so there are at least some places where conservatism reigns. I couldn’t say the same for many european nations; and especially the UK – I like the fact that many women are open-minded, but they almost ALL are sluts; its probably due to the high population density and women being herd animals that follow each other. Even in the rural areas, I’m sure that many/most women from even conservative families end up acting like liberal women after their teenage years. People do get married and end up in long-term relationships here, but it does not say much for the quality of the people, and many of those relationships involve partners cheating on each other anyways. It seems as if easy sex is constantly available in a culture like this, most people skewed to that paradigm will thrive and conservatism will disappear.

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Also want to add…

I wouldn’t say this place is a conservative utopia due to sheer amount poverty here, poor education, and obesity real does lower the quality of man women here. Many Kentuckians are unhealthy and unattractive people mostly due to poverty. On top of that many of the small towns here are losing their small town charm and feel to them as they become more and more dominated by corporate businesses(more fast food restraints, more supermarkets, ect..) and look more like miniature cities than small towns and people are becoming less social and more atomize. Neither the less i would rather live here than in the bigger American cities simply due to familiarity and peace and quite and because the problems we discus on this website aren’t has terminal as elsewhere.

But the white, middle class cites, suburbs and neighborhoods are fairly good places to be though and the women among that group are quite nice, friendly and attractive and somewhat religious if that matters to you. Many of them of college educated and work but most of them have no problem being housewife IF you can pay to maintain their middle class lives.

If you plan on living here in Kentucky then i would suggest living in either Lexington, Louisville, or Bowling Green since these are the college towns and where the women are and avoid everything in the Appalachian far east of the state due to the crushing poverty(among the worst in the nation) and backwardness of that area.

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i wonder how a worsening economy and men’s declining purchasing power will affect those marriages, as men are less able to pay. The rich men will tend towards staying single and hotties. The poor men go for the younger ones and/or hot ones. The middle class is disappearing and so it is men with aspirations who are not from wealth who will bear the brunt in the marriage market.

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It sounds good, but since most people are shaped by their surrounding culture, I have to wonder if the current generation will see more straying in relationships and also more divorce in the coming years. Just because you think you have it on lockdown doesn’t mean its for life, although you might get her best 10 years (of her youth) so to speak.

For some men, proposing and getting married is a dating tactic to get to sleep with a hot women at her peak desirability, as opposed to their actually being in a situation where they can reasonably see their relationship with that girl stretching out to a lifetime.

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Marriages last fairly long here, at least among middle class whites. For an example i have a friend from high school who got married right out of high school and is still married to her after 6 years. Most marriages will last a long time if they survive the first 5 years.

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Utah is nice

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especially southern utah. i’d move out there myself if there were work in anything but ranching and tourism.

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If you’re Mormon.

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The niceness has a dark side since it tends to a bland Jeb Bush-type of political philosophy and tiny numbers of SJWs being able to act completely unopposed.

Obesity isn’t significantly higher than other states in the US.

Huge non-white populations. They are only white compared to the rest of the US, which has been entirely destroyed by the foreign hordes. Lincoln is 20% non-white. Omaha is over 30% non-white.

Plenty of flaming gays around, as well as many homo SJWs in the university town of Lincoln.

Costs – Nebraska has some of the highest property taxes and its income tax is also above average.

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To make an over-generalization, when I’ve found people to be superficially nice (ie when I’m visiting and I get some smiles and “how do you do’s”) often it’s restricted to shallow greetings, and the people are not going to develop any meaningful relationship or friendship with you. However, I’ve met some cool friends in NYC even though it can be hard to actually make initial contact. I even had some girls there open up to me and learned a lot about relationships once I could actually isolate them and get them to open up.

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“Isolate them and get them to open up.”

I know this was about girls in NYC, but I think this statement applies to a lot of folks out this way, myself included.
When I first came to this site, the only person I had any contact with was Roosh through email, and he was always quick and helpful with responses and recommending readings. Read up on a lot of old posts here and on ROK. Finally, made a few test comments and jumped in.

In real life, it’s like that too, first meeting I observe and am very guarded (unless it is business or a prearranged meeting), but after having a chance to read you, I’ll open up if you prove worth the effort, as feelings are kept private lest they overrule common sense there has to be a certain degree of camaraderie established.

Likely this is one way it stays more traditional-minded and has a lack of “flaming” (though more of these by the day as they intentionally move here to start legal disputes with churches and local officials and garner attention through it).

There are those of us who will still simply ostracize folks.

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“They are only white compared to the rest of the US, which has been entirely destroyed by the foreign hordes.”

Keep in mind that in some parts of the upper midwest, that non-white population consists of lots of Native Americans. I’m sure they see whites as the “foreign horde”.

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We need to stop making things about race – what’s done is done. We need to move on from that way of thinking or the evil people that run the west will continue to use such divisions, where we all destroy each other. We need to unite, despite our differences; and find common ground where we don’t allow future generations to be put under the yoke of slavery and destruction.

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I don’t think it is the white people who refuse to move on.

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Sick SJW burn.

It was either us or the Chinese. The Indians lucked out, as the Chinese don’t do reservations. They do unmarked graves in lands they want for themselves.

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Property taxes have to be high in a big state with a small population.

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White women need to have more children and support their men more.

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Glad to read a positive article for once. Thanks Roosh, really picked up my day! Just don’t share this on ROK, we’ll never finish hearing the “I told you sos” from Ghost of Jefferson!

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I must say I’m looking forward to Roosh visiting Utah/Salt Lake City and his thoughts on the Mormons and how they live compared to the rest of America.

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Good idea.

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I’d love for roosh to do a sweep of the west coast. I live in seattle, and the women are notorious for their iciness and feminism here. ditto portland, with a dash of lesbianism. I’d like to see how roosh’s game works here on the west coast. my guess is the most notch’s can be had in socal.

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Feminist to the point of being crazy. And most of the men here buy it.

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The Pacific Northwest might be the worst place in the world for women.

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pacnw has a great lifestyle when it comes to everything except women.

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True. Not too mention that in terms of nature, it’s one of the most beautiful places in the world.
A damn shame…

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Roosh has an incredible ability of observation and discernment. Your observations growing up in a larger city only means you are 15 or so years ahead of the trend for what is coming to these smaller towns. And it is coming. But it’s interesting to hear your insights and particularly to discover that the Midwest is in some ways preferable to many overseas destinations (personally, the fatness anywhere in America rules it out for me).

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I think if you are upper-middle class or have a good thing going/have it made already, then the midwest can be a good choice. But a lot of this is dependent on the family wealth of your parents and good genetics, with very few men bucking this predictable trend. Its perhaps easier for men in socialist countries, but such men are also weak and even more prone to being replaced by immigrants in their falsified economy & society.

I think most men don’t really have the choice in moving and going to asia/other places is a big and perhaps non-sustainable step. So you go with the place you know and are forced to make the best of what little is available. Still, I think younger generations (especially white working and middle class) should LEAVE the UK and US which have no future, especially for white men of their social & economic standing. By the time things change, there will be a mass die-off of men as men are the ones to die in wars directly/indirectly caused by evil elites and their feminist useful idiots.

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Western women needed to have at least three times as many children in the past 20-30 years, in order for white ‘western’ society to be viable. I guess whilst it doesn’t matter the colour of the people so much, the future generations will have an impoverished future as there will not be enough higher-earning people (and not enough people in general) to provide for the frauds that are social security/welfare and health care in general. We pay for women’s abortions now with taxpayers funds, only to destroy our future…

It is true that the current ‘elite’ are evil, but they only get away with so much because people are foolish enough to do their dirty work for them, destroying the people themselves in the process. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that too many sex partners + mass divorce + mass abortion = a failed society that will soon end.

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First off, how on earth could you skip Chicago on a Midwest tour? That’s like skipping NYC on a first time east coast tour.

I think your observations are interesting but are filtered through the traveler’s eye and not through someone that actually lives there. These places are pretty much cultural dead zones. If you enjoy great museums, thriving art scene, diverse and quality music scene, great food options(other than fatty American pub grub), festivals and such, these places can be lacking. There’s also a lack of stylishness amongst people. Everyone wears sports gear all the time. Men and women. Even going out to bars and clubs.

Then you have just a general lack of sophistication of thought and knowledge of the outside world in middle America. In bigger cities, I can have interesting conversations with people about international politics and experiences spent abroad. Most these people in the Midwest are extremely provincial, few have traveled very far, few have much curiosity about what goes on outside of their social circle. You aren’t going to meet a lot of intellectuals there in small town America, there’s much more of a herd mentality where everyone strives to conform to everyone else. They’re friendly, but pretty boring.

There’s way too many sports nuts. If you are not a sport person as I’m not, you can start to find that annoying. Especially when people open you up talking about college football under the assumption that you are into it just like they are.

Way too much blind, unwavering patriotism and lack of any critical thought about US policies.

And then as Roosh points out, the obesity epidemic is very real in the heartland. There’s simply no stigma to being obese. It’s totally normal.

Yes, maybe a good place to raise a family if you are a religious Norman Rockwell type of white family. But for anyone else you’d likely be bored out of your mind in a few months. There’s a reason why it cost a fortune to live in Manhattan and it’s dirt cheap in Omaha. And it’s not only because of the space.

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I’m from KC and you are spot on. Right now I literally cannot talk to anyone from home without talking about the Royals. Man or woman. There are some nice things about the midwest but there are also the downsides, which you elaborated quite well. I prefer NYC or at least Chicago.

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Sadly, I think in the current era, the masses of people anywhere are unenlightened, whether it be India or western nations etc.. The problem is that whilst a poor person in India has little access to education, the internet etc.. – a relatively poor person in a place like america has much more access to be able to study in their spare time things like politics and the like. Most people in the west are just dumbed down automatons who want to satisfy their own selfish desires and don’t care much for investigating things like politics, happy to let their ‘God’-like political leader take care of it all for them. Most people’s politics involve simple things like ‘get rid of immigrants’ instead of ALSO trying to change their own behaviours like sleeping around less (see feminism). Basically, most people are thick as a plank when it comes to their wisdom (even in NYC, which is full of corporate whores, not necessarily intelligent people) and this is why democracy is a sham – because we are not all equal and people in general are too stupid for democracy to work.

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Yeah. Democracy is only as good as the population it’s founded upon. A shitty, tv-watching, ignorant, smartphone zombie population won’t have a quality democracy.

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Good assessment of the Midwest. I’ve lived here all my life and what you speak about culture and women still rings true here. The nature of women is still the same. Feminism is still very common just not as in your face as it may be else where.

Many of the good looking girls dream of the city and so being from the big city will up your value big time here. I’ve known several that got into porn just to get out of the Midwest. Ive always heard that porn recrutment is huge here. So many are dazzled by the Hollywood lifestyle and have no real means to get out of the Midwest otherwise. Should be easy to take advantage of for a guy like you.

For the rest of the girls that are content here may be harder to gain access to as an outsider of their social circle.

Mexicans usually get there start at farms or meat packing plants and within a generation or two end up in the bigger Midwest cities.

Your right blacks usually have ties to the university’s due to sports so they are less common. But your video isn’t an accurate account of the amount of blacks. They are much more common here than what you may have seen. It is more segregated here so they tend to stick together and avoid white dense areas unless they are athletic stars.

The culture definitely favors conservative ideals but there are pockets of liberals working hard to change that with little resistance.

I’ve always felt there are plenty of gays here but I have no reference to speak from. The university’s are big on pushing big city influence.

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Even if it’s decent it’s not nearly as good as other places in the world, so why bother thinking about it.

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Dude, even when you change enviroment you always say the same things: smartphone/no smartphone, social circle/cold approach, obesity, femininity, ecc. For peope who have been reading you for a while it’s damn boring and uninteresting, believe me. Wtf you are a well travelled man, how’s possibile you can’t wide your intellectual spectrum?

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Write something more meaninful then and submit your article, and we’ll all going to judge your observations.

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“Progress” will come everywhere with time. I was once in a small town of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada to discover they have an annual sodomy parade. Leftists ideas spread like a bubonic plaque.
Small town America is great though.

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All the gays are in Minneapolis; we’re officially gayer than San Francisco.

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Thankfully, due to your weather 9 months of the year, and the mosquitoes the other 3 months, they can’t hold their parades in the nude.

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As an Omaha resident, you clearly did not spend enough time in my city. There are a LOT more gays here than you think. Just go to a coffee shop or spend some time in dundee or benson and see for yourself. Spend a day or two in each city and you think you know the midwest….

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Pity of it is that when I think of the Great Plains, I think of when I was a kid, and of my grandparent’s generation, and how they made the place what it was. Now that they’re dead, going back there is just depressing, because I half-expect to see the same thing, and instead I’m struck in the face with all the degenerate crap I see elsewhere.

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I wonder if being gay and bisexuality will increase in future, as in the west we have TOO MANY MEN AND NOT ENOUGH WOMEN, numerically speaking. Nature always made 1.05 men to 1.00 women, because men were more likely to die out from wars etc.. Now that health care is better, and due to mass male immigration; there is an oversupply of men, not accounted for by official population statistics (which are lies anyways). For the 360 million people in the US (not the 315 admitted to), there is definitely an oversupply of men. In countries like india and china where female foetuses are often aborted, there are 113 men for every 100 women; the west is worse in some ways despite a better ratio (106-107 for every 100 women), because of feminism/fat culture/lesbianism etc..

A point that is not commonly addressed is what happens if due to artificial means a society has too many men and not enough women as wives. I don’t think we even have a barometer of comparison from past societies. Having said that, I’m pretty sure that such societies end due to male apathy and also male violence, because such an artificial social structure is inherently unstable.

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got friends from india from working class village boys to rich ass boys with servants in the city. Yes your game applies there due to really bad feminism there on keeping them and maintaining to a degree.
But its all social circle there even among those westernized rich guys in the city where you see the same 200 guys partying there with their girls(huge sausagefest).
Feminist applaued a woman last year for smashing a mans car when he looked her way in the day time. AN he had to pay her cuz she damaged her phone in the process.
Street apporaches are a bad idea,espiceally at night.
Got the worst of big city westernization and feminisim but its still holds the tradional in social circle.

but this is a good read. You should hit up the canadian provinces and compare the cities to rural areas

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Cool. So there’s hope for USA after all

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If there is any hope for the future of the country it lies in the Mid and Southwest.

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Roosh, I’d like to see you travel the south; Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, louisiana and Georgia and give us your impressions there. Lots of small town America there too.

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I was born & raised in Fremont, Nebraska. (25,000 population). Left when I was 23.
In towns like Fremont, Norfolk, Schuyler & Columbus we have very large meat-packing plants & tons of illegals working there. In fact, Fremont made national headlines in 2010 voting on a housing referendum.
These people don’t pay taxes & can’t speak English. It makes sense that Nebraska doesn’t appear on the first chart there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/us/22fremont.html?_r=0

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Sounds a lot like my experience a few hours west of there.

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I’ve lived a lot of places in the US, FL, NM, CA, OR, GA and TX. Hands down TX is my favorite place to live and FL comes second. In TX we have a lot of hot Mexican girls and it’s just the right level of conservative if you were to put it on the DEFCOCK scale. Chicks are slutty enough that you can easily get laid, but at the same time they stay pretty and have long hair. Not a lot of birth control or even condoms around here. We do have a lot of fat chicks though. Still, that’s everywhere I’ve been except CA, where people are mostly skinny. Here in TX you don’t have all those radical hyper feminist problems I hear you talking about in DC. Girls going on a “slut walk” around here would never happen, except probably in Austin, our most gayest hipster city that I hate. When I lived in GA and OR, I saw a lot of that stupidness and I couldn’t stand the androgynous women of those places.

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As someone who grew up in the Midwest, may I add the following:

Religion (namely Christianity) can figure into social life in the Midwest (especially the South). This is a mixed bag: it might be a barrier for those are Catholic / not Christian / a different Protestant sect. It should also be noted that most Christian churches are inherently blue-pill and have been partly feminized. Avoid all churches with woman pastors.

A lot of girls’ religious beliefs are simply “I’m Christian because my parents were”. Just because a girl goes to church doesn’t mean she holds to traditional values or doesn’t have a high N count (see also http://www.antifeministtech.info/category/sunday-morning-nightclub-exploits/. Speaking as a Christian, I would not date a woman at a church I attend.

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I think it would be a good idea to have a poll of some kind where people contribute the best alternative to liberal multicultural clusterfuck cities to live in. Cities that have hot women, good nightlife, cultured yet people are friendlier than your average city. Good post Roosh.

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WISCONSIN CHEESE CURDS!!!!

only thing I really miss about the midwest. Some nice folks and people though… country people are more warmer and honest than city people.

You got nice people (overall; of course there are nice people and assholes worldwide). In general, nice people in midwest and people are family oriented but it’s extremely boring. If you are used to city life; you won’t really adjust well in the midwest. Not every place in midwest is country but you don’t really get the city vibe there; it beats the suburbs though. It’s either City or country; suburb is the worse (good if you want to raise a family).

In the midwest, the whiter the area the happier the people are because people aren’t forced to look at or interact with minorities. Because people share common culture, there is lack of conflict. Not that there is anything wrong with minorities but white people in general avoid minorities and want nothing to do with non-whites (exception when doing business or going to ethnic restaurant).

When you introduce multicultural ethnic groups into white city, it looks awkward. The culture isn’t even diverse (ironically), it’s like it’s neither here nor there. People self segregate because that’s what people do.

MidWest is nice overall; I won’t miss it but it will surely be in my memories. Would I want to travel there again? Only for the cheese curds.

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Its funny because those areas are the foremost frontier areas. Hence the genes of the hardy pioneer men predominate there.

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It sounds the same as when you get out of Toronto and the immediate suburbs and get into the smaller cities. While I have dated girls from places like Kirkland Lake and Beaver Lake, I have never actually chased women while in those cities. Similarly, I go to Trenton (pop. 20k) every year but that is to visit family rather than to bird dog about.
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Oddly, it also has something in common with second tier Chinese cities: not a lot of foreigners, not much of a flashy night life, social circles become more important for meeting women.

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I met my wife in Nebraska… spot on

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When you visit the Southwest, definitely check out Flagstaff, AZ, and Sedona, AZ. You may really enjoy the combination of beautiful scenery and friendly people.

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You should do Houston, Austin, New Orleans.

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Looking forward to when you visit the non-coastal northwest. Specifically when you reach cities like Boise, Idaho.

I don’t live there but I’ve heard positive things on it…mainly all the good things you mentioned above but with an added bonus. The people are thinner due to it being high altitude and in the mountains; there’s more of an active, outdoorsy culture like in Colorado but without the big city pretension.

Speaking of pretension, if you ever make it to Dallas my prediction is that you’re going to hate it. I used to live there and it’s the poster city for bland, fake, yuppie, robotic pretentiousness. People ghost you as you walk by like you don’t even exist.

Even so there are some promising venues. I recommend the Uptown area and lower Greenville Ave for trendy dive bars though parking for both is murder. Still the Rustic is decent on a Wednesday as there shouldn’t be valet parking as there WILL be from Thurs til Sat. I recommend getting there early during happy hour in order to day game. I’ve had the best luck with that.

There’s also the Trinity Hall Irish pub off Mockingbird Ave where I’ve had some luck late at night, but it’s kind of a crapshoot. Though I mainly went for the atmosphere and music so that helped with ‘outcome independence’; I always left there feeling good.

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Good read. I agree with it since i lived in kissimmee, florida for most my life which is a town of under 65,000 people but once i moved to brazil I new I had to learn game as I was seeing hundreds and thousands of chicks a in an average day just walking around

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Is Alaska really one of the least affordable states in the US? Does that graph take earnings into account as well as expenditures?

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Do you mean Nebraska never had a slut walk ?? What about gay prides ? jeez, these hillbillies need some edyukayshon !

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In Canuckland, round eye is already doomed :

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You should take a second look at Kansas City (Metro). KC is unique other than DC as it is a city of cities. You will find a higher minority population in KC, MO but the moment you go to Lee Summit or Johnson county it is predominately white. Most of the people who work in Downtown KC all reside in those other placed.

However you are absolutely correct that you have to have a car here. In San Fran it would take you 30 minutes to go 10 blocks, in KC 30 minutes takes you 25 miles.
However when it comes to work there are jobs in and around KC. Start up culture is growing and the investors to go with it are coming into KC Metro.

As for looking at places to live you can often check out greatschools.org to see the demographic information of the local high school which is a pretty close barometer of what the local population is.

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Great article. Interesting insights. Sometimes we overlook our own back yard. Good luck finding something there.

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Great article, but I think you went to the Plains states, not the Midwest. The Midwest is Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, etc.

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I think to people like Roosh and other coasters, “Midwest” is always going to be cows, farms, windmills, small town Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc. My friends from California even think Wyoming is “Midwest”. Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc should be reclassified as Great Lakes or Industrial North.

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I imagine the constant din, hurry and consumer bombardment of the big city has its way of getting to people.

I took a trip to Glacier Park last summer and I echo much of what Roosh said. Much quieter and more traditionalist. I tend to be a homebody, but I felt right at home pretty much as soon as my plane touched down.

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When are you coming to the west coast – sf, silicon Valley, LA, and Seattle need your analysis badly.

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As a native of Indiana, I can tell you this impression is only on the surface. The woman are believing the empowerment crap and dating within your social circle is a good way to be miserable and divorced here as well. The only upside is women still feel guilty enough not to shred you to pieces when they divorce you and let you see the kids. Can’t speak for other states, but they can’t be far behind.
The people here are great at putting up a facade and aren’t too bright.

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I would say a lot of this can also be found in parts of the American south

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I already knew a lot did not apply to the south on ROK. But I read avidly because I want to keep that damn Berkley culture out. We still have our gender studies departments in universities and the freak show community is trying to use that as a beach head to conquer the rest of the states. Sadly, a rural girl who has never been exposed to the liberal nutcases is likely to see these academic sophisticates as avant garde.

So in less corrupted areas, we need to remain vigilant.

j8
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j8
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come to the south

Nasty Nomad
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Great article with excellent information!