I recently spent 11 eternal days in Alanya, Turkey, a resort that is two hours away by bus from Antalya. Unfortunately for me, the trip was worse than my previous European summer excursions to Hvar, Croatia, and Odessa. Actually, it was worse than just about anywhere I’ve been in the past five years, even Riga, Copenhagen, and Washington DC. If you’re considering a summer trip to Turkey, you need to keep the following in mind:

1. There are a lot of horny Turkish guys

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In spite of any propagandic notion from the American media that Turkey is Westernizing, the sex roles remain nearly as strict and traditional since Ataturk’s time. There is little casual sex or dating. Instead of one-night stands you have six-month stands, where you commit before fornicating. Turkish men are also not allowed to “pick up” Turkish girls because word may get back to their relatives, in which case they’d be shamed by their elders.

If a Turkish man doesn’t have a steady girlfriend with the intent to marry her, his dick is cleaner than the air in space. Foreign girls are his best shot at getting laid at all, and the cheapest option for him is to take a bus to a Turkish resort and go full retard on foreign girls. These men want it way more than you.

2. There are not a lot of Turkish girls to meet

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Most are with their families or boyfriends, and the ones you see at night tend to be older than 30 (Turkish spinsters, I imagine). Your best shot at approaching younger Turkish girls in Alanya is during the day, when they are allowed by their parental units to take short trips to the store, but since she is lodging with her family, you have small odds at isolating her at night.

Younger girls in clubs are heavily guarded by male friends and relatives (one night I was threatened by a Turkish guy in Turkish when I approached a Turkish girl). As long as these guardians are around, she won’t entertain your approach.

3. It’s incredibly hot and humid

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The temperature during the day reaches over 95. You won’t want to do much besides sit under the air conditioner or go in the water, but even the latter provides little relief. I began to think it was a bit silly to pay a lot of money to bake underneath a sun that prevents you from enjoying whatever activity you end up doing. I can understand why the Scandinavians do it, since their winter lasts eleven or so months a year, but I’m not exactly hurting for sun.

4. Most of the foreign girls are Swedish fatties

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I think I’ve done a poor job killing the false stereotype that Swedish girls are blonde bombshells. While their genetics are pristine, modern Swedish girls look like tattooed burritos. The most beautiful girl in the world is probably Swedish, but her more numerous variant—the chubby Swedish girl with burly shoulders and a rectangle face—disgraces her ancestral line. Nonetheless, you’ll never see a Turkish man pass on a Swedish girl, no matter how grotesque and vile. That makes me wonder if Turkey is a backup plan for white women who can’t compete in their own lands.

5. The most beautiful girls are Russian, but they are rarely accessible

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They tend to vacation through package deals that put them in all-inclusive resorts far from the center. Most of them travel with their boyfriends and families, though once in a while you can catch a pair of above-average Russian girls in the club until the hotel bus driver comes to fetch them when you’re only halfway through your seduction.

I’ve heard second-hand stories of Russian girls going crazy on vacation, but I’ve yet to see this. And get this: many Turkish guys speak Russian. Nothing stops them from getting at girls of different nationalities. I’m convinced they study Swedish, Russian, and English in the off-season when they have to power down their penis for the winter months.

6. Do NOT come to Turkey if you look anything like me

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If you can pass for Spanish, Greek, or Italian, you will be dime a dozen here. It doesn’t help that many Turkish guys are quite good looking with decent style, fashionable haircuts, and big muscles, suggesting that Turkish man are catching up with their Mediterranean counterparts. You get absolutely no exotic boost if you’re a swarthy man, and girls will think you’re just another desperate Turk, making them the prize while you beg for scraps.

Even if you’re a blonde alabaster man, you still have to work hard, because the environment is such that girls can pick and choose which men they want to talk to, and that’s even assuming they are still in the mood to chat after being approach by ten Turkish men who instantly go physical and don’t like taking no for an answer.

7. The best chance at meeting girls is from your hotel

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My first two nights out I couldn’t find many opportunities on decent girls. I spent some afternoons at the pool and had far better interactions, but quality was still a problem. If I were to do it all over again, I would just book a room in the largest resort around, even if it’s far from the center, and just game all day in the pool.

8. Turkish men can be charming, fun, and warm

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These guys have great rapport game in that you feel comfortable with them quickly. Funny thing is that I thought my mom was just hating on me when I was teenager by saying I was “cold” like my dad, but she’s absolutely right—compared to the average Turkish man I’m robotic and boring. This is probably why I passed on South America to live in Eastern Europe, where people better match my demeanor.

9. Alcoholic drinks are unreasonably expensive

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The going rate for a vodka on the rocks in most nightclubs is $10 US. If you’re Turkish, however, you get a lower rate from a secret menu that tourists don’t have access to. You can probably also skip out on some club cover charges while tourists can’t.

10. It’s as touristy as they come

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The locals see you as a wallet, in spite of their smiles and physical affection. The Turks have optimized their tourism game to extract money from you in the most efficient way possible. Besides the five times daily call for prayer and a million kebab shops, there isn’t much room left for authentic Turkish culture.

Conclusion

I took this trip while I was living in Odessa. I went from a place with extremely high talent to one that had little. I had not much choice but to use this trip more as an opportunity to relax, practice making Youtube videos, and meditate on how insanely lucky I am to live in Eastern Europe where the women enjoy my company, are exceedingly pretty, and are often open to making sexual communion with me.

I can only recommend Turkey to average women who want to feel pretty and couples who want a romantic getaway. Unless you find a secret resort hotel or spot where you know the pickings will be good, you take a huge risk by going here in the summer.

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seth datta
seth datta
5 years ago

In future, the only place where white people will form a meaningful diaspora will be in EE and Russia (even though bankers own and manipulate both). The west is f*cked and even the pretty women here are so messed in the head, that they promote a faggot culture that will get western men enslaved and/or killed. It doesn’t help that many men promote such a culture, and so perhaps it is somewhat earned and inevitable. I say the west has 10 good years left for the dumb and the blind (if you’re awake and aware, you know how bad it gets) and after that it doesn’t matter for shit how much longer it lasts, for people will then wish badly for an end to the hurt and pain they are storing for themselves by their ignorance. Time to get God.

benvad
benvad
5 years ago
Reply to  seth datta

White knights and desperate Beta males (even if the look like 10s) are so desperate for pussy they’ll do anything.

If you’re sick of the bullshit head to Colombia were the women are out if sight.

Conservative Muslim Guy
Conservative Muslim Guy
5 years ago

I noticed you didn’t mention Toronto in the list of cities that are horrible but still better than Turkey.

mclovin89
mclovin89
5 years ago

lol ive met guys from india and middle east saying how awesome toronto and vancouver is in terms of hot sexy women. its like their phillipines.
on rooshs 6th point being a foreigner in those regions demonstrate lower value to local women. even if you are native to the land the second u drop english it over

ATC
ATC
5 years ago

Warmth: Yes a male Turkish student working at my college dorm cafeteria told me once (no homo) “you look just like my best friend, you even walk like him. Every time I see you, I think of him.” This dude didn’t need anything from me, it was just something he said once.

ATC
ATC
5 years ago

In the travel memoir “Size of the World” by Jeff Greenwald, who is a total SWPL, there is a famous passage where he is in Turkey with a time constraint (he is trying to circumnavigate the globe on land and sea) and 3 hot Turkish girls relentlessly pursue him until he finally agrees to a 4some. (The book contains a picture of him with them.) So Roosh maybe you should talk to that guy.

Schultz
Schultz
5 years ago
Reply to  ATC

“d 3 hot Turkish girls relentlessly pursue him until he finally agrees to a 4some. (The book contains a picture of him with them”

If Roosh’s field report on Turkey is even remotely as he describe in this article, one can bet the farm that Greenwsld is lying out his ass.

benvad
benvad
5 years ago
Reply to  ATC

I want to talk to that guy the hell with Roosh!!

DeepThought
DeepThought
5 years ago
Reply to  ATC

Remember there are large segments of Gypsies and Kurds. These people may live in Turkiye but do not embrace much of our values.

mila
mila
4 years ago
Reply to  DeepThought

i agree. people who dont know much about Turkey will confuse the Gypsies, Kurds, and now Syrians for being native inhabitants of Turkey. Turks are good looking, those three i mentioned above – arent

David Hall
David Hall
2 years ago
Reply to  mila

True

ATC
ATC
5 years ago

Another Turkish alpha story (my college recruited a lot of Turkish students for their wallet) our dorm cafeteria had an old lunchlady who prepared omelets. The cafeteria closed its breakfast service at 10 am. Turkish dude rolls up at 9:55 to order his omelet. “Nope,” she said. Too close to end of shift, she needed to clean her utensils. Turkish dude says, “You are being very rude. You are open until 10 am. Let me speak with your manager.”
2 minutes later she’s fixing him his omelet, completely defeated by some foreign dude. She’d been in control for probably 30 years with the nice local egalitarian farm boys and this was the first time anyone had treated her like the help.

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago
Reply to  ATC

Am I alpha if Ive done that before?

Dutch_pride
Dutch_pride
5 years ago
Reply to  ATC

And she spit on his omelet. You forgot to mention that.

Martin Woo
Martin Woo
5 years ago

I have never heard anyone accuse Turks of being good looking

DeepThought
DeepThought
5 years ago
Reply to  Martin Woo

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/turkish-women-voted-most-beautiful-in-the-world/

I believe there was also a Uk paper who held a poll and Turks wont hat also. We maybe hairy but we sure are not pansys when it comes to women.

I cannot believe how timid western men are when it comes to women.

GMN Ventures
GMN Ventures
5 years ago
Reply to  DeepThought

well turkish men are hot. wish wouldnt be. im considered to be hot as well also turkish living abroad. when i go back to turkey for visit first thing i notice is so many hot guys. and well no one gives a fuck about if you are so handsome because there are many. we are same as russian women in russia. so many hotties doesnt count a thing!

Tuzlu
Tuzlu
4 years ago
Reply to  Martin Woo

Nope we are not hairy I say this sincerely , we have very weak eye brows , low nose bridges ,round and flattish faces , small eyes I don’t know if u consider this pretty but this is how we loook like
they others you meet are not etnic Turks but Turkish citizens

guess
guess
5 years ago

Roosh, you are doing it wrong. Alanya is a limited place. You should have gone to Istanbul where girls have more freedom, better looking and more westernized. I also think that you went to some cheap shitty resort where low tier tourists(such as Swedish land whales) stay. Usually 5 star hotels are filled with Russian hotties however the competition will be fierce because most Turkish guys that are around you have been playing the Russian game since they were 15-16. Can’t blame Turkish guys for trying to keep their women from becoming total whores and planning on marrying them when the time comes. After all you always complain how there are no old fashioned women to marry left in the US. Good luck.

mclovin89
mclovin89
5 years ago
Reply to  guess

sorry dude gotta disagree with your first bit. though yes western turkey is westernized you dont see a lot of women about. my classmate from korea saw this when she was in istanbul

guess
guess
5 years ago
Reply to  mclovin89

Istanbul is a huge city, there are parts that are westernized as well as parts that are super conservative. Gotta do a little research before going there. However if you really want to play the game, best go to a eastern European country.

mclovin89
mclovin89
5 years ago
Reply to  guess

titaly itll be too dam hard to find the westernized circles and i can only imaginevthe competition and lack of talent

Schultz
Schultz
5 years ago

Thanks for the report Roosh. I’ll scrape Turkey off my shoe. Will not visit, ever.

ATC
ATC
5 years ago

Swedish girls look like tattooed burritos.
Let’s just start 2016 now because we already have our quote of the year.
“Tattooed burritos” needs to go viral to describe a common female type throughout the Western world.

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FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
5 years ago

Why does one even have to go to Turkey when you have places like Croatia, Ukraine, Southern Russia, Montenegro to visit if you want to have sex and summer fun and Egypt, Maldives or Seychelles if you want some good diving or snorkeling on an amazing reef????
Maldives, Seychelles or Thailand are available year round as well. Why even mention Turkey?;)

pros94n7
pros94n7
5 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

which cities in southern russia do you recommend? are you referring to the rim cities on the trans-siberian railroad route?

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  pros94n7

Southern Russia or many Ukrainian cities for this matter.
You can go to Sochi, Rostov on Don, Volgograd, Anapa in summer or Kiev and surrounding cities in Ukraine.
Ukrainian black sea cost is very polluted and overcrowded in summer and it’s better to go to Croatia or Montenegro if you want to combine sea and fun.

Gabriel Global
Gabriel Global
5 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

FC
There’s aloy of places in Russia that get no après even here on the red pill site.

Where in Thailand do the Slavic girls go to? Do they do Other SEA beaches (Palawan, Bali, etc.)?

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  Gabriel Global

1. Could you please name those ” places in Russia”?;)
2. Thailand has become more of a family spot recently for Russians. And they tend to go to all those touristy destinations like Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket.
3. Bali is a lot more expensive for Russians than Thailand and only rich folks can afford going there , especially now when 1$ will cost you 60 Russian roubles.
4. As a result most of Russian females will likely travel locally to places like Sochi or Anapa, or to nearby countries like Bulgaria, Egypt or Turkey this coming summer 2015.
5. I do not expect any kind of extensive traveling for Russians in a coming year or two. If you want Russian girl then you’ll have to come to Russia! American dollar will take you very far these days both in Russia and in Ukraine.

Tom Dane
Tom Dane
5 years ago

Thanks for the warning.

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Dane

Where do you go in Finland? I have only been to 2 cities. Vaasa & Rovaniemi.
I enjoy Finnish girls a lot.

Billy Boyd
Billy Boyd
5 years ago

Isn’t the Turkish Govt in the process of turning tyrannical at the moment, or at least more so that usual? I thought they recently “elected” a new Prime Minister who is cracking down on civil rights. Is it safe to travel to?

I also heard he’s very anti-feminism, but that’s another story.

Zelcorpion
Zelcorpion
5 years ago
Reply to  Billy Boyd

The government has usually little to do with the people.

MentalKenny
5 years ago
Reply to  Billy Boyd

Erdogan is trying to stir the country to religious backwardness, true

DeepThought
DeepThought
5 years ago
Reply to  Billy Boyd

Yes we are a very anti feminist society. I am sure it has worked out wonderfully for men in western societies.

American men are now drugged as they grow up and ridiculed for being masculine. We will not make that mistake.

Tommy Hass
Tommy Hass
5 years ago
Reply to  Billy Boyd

It is safe to travel to. Although there are some ISIS types and PKK types, for the time being it’s fairly safe.

anon1
anon1
5 years ago

this is a total aside roosh but if you type in swarthy into google image search the third global result is actually a picture of you, lol

bastardi
bastardi
5 years ago
Reply to  anon1

holy shit its true, lmao

Tusker
Tusker
5 years ago
Reply to  anon1
MentalKenny
5 years ago

I lived in Lebanon for six months and in Abu Dhabi for two, I always noticed how so many Western fatties got so much attention from the local lads, over there white meat really is sought after. Once I was in a mall and there was this blonde obese british lass that was surrounded by like 7 or 8 local blokes, some of them good looking and well dressed who were all competing to take her for a coffee. I laughed at how desperate they seemed. Even worst in Beirut, where there is a lot of native talent, the guys still go insane over foreign women who back home would be at most a 5.

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  MentalKenny

You should visit Canada;) Any whale of a woman is in a very high demand there and can expect a line up of up to 10 males anywhere she goes to!!

uncledick
uncledick
5 years ago
Reply to  FormerCanadian

Former Canadian, you got to tell me how you got out of this land of the lard asses. A former Countrymen would like to know

FormerCanadian
FormerCanadian
5 years ago
Reply to  uncledick

It’s easy, man;) I do travel a lot and I do know many places and many people.
Eastern Europe, namely Russia and Ukraine will be the first choice for any self respecting male individual in any foreseeable future in terms of living a normal life with a normal female by my side without the need to comply with endless restrictions, regulations etc imposed by political correctness, affirmative action and feminism!!
Just get educated, learn a trade and a foreign language, save some money and make the move! It’s easy!

Adam
Adam
5 years ago

Roosh you look really good with that hairstyle and thinner stubble

Daniel
Daniel
5 years ago

I noticed it’s the fourth or fifth article you write on the same subject during a short period of time, with just little variations on the theme. I guess the thing is obsessing you a bit, lol.

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
5 years ago
Reply to  Daniel

If I stayed there for another month, I’d probably have enough material for a book.

zaqan
zaqan
5 years ago

Ive been told a few times by nonTurks that I look Turkish, and I do look like one of their footballers. So I guess thats even one more reason not to go there.

Ender Yurt
Ender Yurt
4 years ago
Reply to  zaqan

which turkish footballer?

Erdal
Erdal
5 years ago

The hotels the Russians are visiting in Turkey are separate. Because Russians drink a lot and bother other tourists, they have their own hotels in Turkey. Non-Russians can also stay at these 5 star hotels but you have to look for them. Turkey is n1 vacation destiny for Russians so I guess you chose the wrong hotel and location. Turkey is a huge country and there are family hotels, party hotels and cheap hotels where Swedish burrito’s go to. You should have done better research. If you want to meet quality people you have to go for the mid-high level hotels. That is the truth. The Russians that stay at these mid-high 5 star hotels have everything they need inside the complex. The hotel has its own shop, restaurants, disco’s and other things so they barely go outside. The people who work there are slaying pussy.

Ike Turnner
Ike Turnner
5 years ago

Roosh
I would never go to Turkey man.

How about we see some Eastern Europe travel coverage because travel and culture pertaining to WHITE women is far more interesting as a caliphate sausage fest is just a bad idea for so many reasons.As with this Poland data sounds good righ now.

BDITM
BDITM
5 years ago

Roosh, are you Iranian Azeri?

Jonny_Paycheck
Jonny_Paycheck
5 years ago

Any country with Islam as its’ national religion is a no no for pussy searching holiday or mini Break!
Turkey is fine if you’re into Historical holidays and some jazzed up cuisine Not for a sniff of Poontang!
And as you said in the summer it’s too fucking hot and humid…like going to Florida for the beach in July and August..no thanks!

Roosh this summer …
Cote d’Azur , or
Biarittiz/San Sebastian ,
Majorca ,Ibiza
or in fact talking of Swedish girls ,go to Sweden where you will encounter the Hot Swedish chicks not just fatty bum bums !

Tommy Hass
Tommy Hass
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonny_Paycheck

Turkey doesn’t have a national religion.

Unless you mean “majority religion”, in which case you are right.

corvinus
corvinus
5 years ago

I think we can take it as a rule of thumb that if a country is notorious for producing hordes of young men serving as gigolos for ugly fat older Western women, that the young women in that country suck.

Tusker
Tusker
5 years ago
Reply to  corvinus

….or are “unavailable”. Either way, that sucks!

DeepThought
DeepThought
5 years ago

As a Turk, I could have told you that. We use Russian women and Eastern European women as our release. To taint a Turkish girl and not marry her is a big no no in our culture.

And as a Turk who moved to America as a 8 year old but who visits regularly, other Turks say the same about me. I am much colder than the average Turk but I also do not look like a Turk as my family migrated from Croatia after WW1.

At work, I have to tone down my conversations as most Americans find it off putting to discuss family etc at work.

China Doll
China Doll
4 years ago
Reply to  DeepThought

I am afraid not just Russian and Eastern European women, Turkish guys would just use any foreign women for sexual release. In a way, it is not a bad thing as many of them are good looking and funny, and it’s at the women’s discretion to decide if they want to look up their ‘free gigolo service’ Hahaha

Alex
Alex
5 years ago

I don t think so I mean I gamed a lot in that country and I can say that the game works fucking well with locals girls maybe the game works even better If the local girls know that you are not Turkish…it s adventurous and fun for them but there s only one rule that you have to get in ur mind : before you have to OPEN and after SEE If it works but not the inverse I mean many guys have mindsets like “local girl will not accept this”etc but it s completely false game fucking works in this country If you go there and Open sets without any judgement I mean the girls feel when you have a false mindset about what they are.

Leopard
Leopard
5 years ago

Roosh, I found my Turkey : Greece…

This is the country where I’m treated the worst. I have no matches on online dating, I get only rude reactions from daygame and nightgame, I get no warm approaches and the only girls that react well to me are NOT born in Greece.

I hate this country and I just want to leave it already. Of course, it is the longest trip I booked… I’m stuck here now. I just want to stay in my hotel room.