15 Important Quotes From The Predatory Female

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Published way back in 1992, The Predatory Female may be the first red pill book ever written. It warns men about the dangers of modern women well before male-centered internet communities began to do the same. While used copies of the book are expensive, PDF versions can be found via Google.

Constructed in the form of a question-and-answer dialogue, this book discusses a woman’s true nature and how Western divorce laws create catastrophic problems for men f they decide to marry. Here are my favorite 15 quotes from the book:

What women want

Q. Beyond herself and her status with other women, does anythign else pique her interest?

A. Yes, any combination of money, romance, and excitement. The scent of these accommodations will have her rising like a cobra in a wicker basket. The provider of such diversions occupies center stage in her life, but his identity is unimportant to her, and it’s a temporary position. Nobody can amuse her forever. All pied pipers eventually fade into the past.

The end game

When you begin to fraternize with a woman, you are taking the first steps in a ritual mating dance that, if allowed to progress, will result in your moving about the floor in a semi-comatose state until you are fleeced of your money, property, and peace of mind. A predatory female will study you. She learns to know what you are thinking. She begins the strongest primeval death grip known to man.

Beta males are essential to the system

…the matriarchal system could never operate efficiently without the hordes of male drones it has created. These men, preconditioned by their mothers and suffering from a self-imposed order of chivalry, consistently front for the system and its predatory female masters.

Invisible men

Q. Who is the invisible man?

A. Any man the predatory female has deemed to be of no further use. Althought she’ll go to extremes pleasing and cultivating a man when she’s in the acquisitive mode, she views him as untouchable once his purpose is served. He totally ceases to exist in every way. He becomes a nonperson and is fair game for the carrion birds of society.

Natural parasites

A primary trait of the predatory female is that she deprives you of your peace of mind in direct proportion to the amount of time you spend with her. It is a natural sapping process from which there is no escape. Starting with your mind, it soon extends to your money and possessions. It’s heads she wins, tails you lose.

Rigged game

A man, dealing with a predatory female, is like a man in the water with a shark. The environment (the matriarchal society) belongs to the predator. A man needs luck or special training to survive. Conditions permitting, a shark isn’t satisfied with just one chunk of the victim . . . it keeps coming back for more.

Slot machine rule

Q. What is the slot machine rule?

A. An extension of the principle that there is no such thing as a free lunch, the slot machine rule states that dealing with a woman on a personal level is like playing with a slot machine. It’s fun to watch, to play with, and it gives rewards. But the odds are against you. The longer you play the same machine, the more it will cost. It will periodically pay off in small amounts, teasers, but you will invariably
end up in the red.

Q. And a date is like feeding in the first quarter?

A. Yes, and you might hit a jackpot. But sooner or later the slot takes it all back with interest.

Q. What if you just quit?

A. Before you are even out of sight, the machine is being cranked by another sucker. Indeed, he was probably cranking surreptitiously before your departure.

Hard to win

If an individual fails to understand that a female’s charms are never given, only loaned, he is doomed to exploitation. The male must constantly remember that there is absolutely no such entity as an exclusive use of a woman’s sexual favors. There are always other men, and sometimes women. The man’s innate desire to possess a female, to have his own little sex doll and intimate companion, is his biggest vulnerability. A predatory female will use this weakness to lead him into a trap and destroy him.

Sexual slavery

In the advanced stages of sexual hypnosis, the male may subconsciously want to crawl into the vagina and live there. Most normal, healthy men are capable of becoming total slaves to a well orchestrated sexual enticement and the predatory female is acutely aware of this. If necessary, she will stretch that vulva right over his head and smother him to get what she wants.

The ultimatum

Q. My girl friend says our relationship hasn’t “progressed” and if I don’t let her move in, she wants to break up.

A. Undoubtedly, but keep in mind . . . they all dump you sooner or later anyway. Your only elective is choosing how far the camel’s head will be into the tent when you are dumped. Have you considered minimizing your losses? This female is marketing her wares and you are reluctant to put up any front money. Why not opt for a new vendor?

Alimony

Many divorced men are sending monthly alimony checks to women bearing little resemblance, physically or mentally, to the ones they married.

Marriage simulator

Q. Is it possible to sample real marriage without the hideous commitment?

A. Fortunately, yes. Simply purchase a five hundred pound Bengal tiger and keep it in the back yard. Support it, feed it, and mount it. See for yourself if you are cut out for married life.

Only single men can be heroes

How would Superman, The Lone Ranger, James Bond, or even Jesus Christ have come off as a married man? The answer is: terrible. Married men are hard to sell as heroes. A picture of James Bond trying to placate a shrieking wife while she threatens to have his wages garnished doesn’t fit the hero image. A married man is a cornered man. He is a man who has lost something, and this makes it hard for him to be the classic, free thinking, and independent hero.

The law game

We’re a nation of litigants with the courts saying, in effect, “Ok Mr., go ahead and marry, but if she exercises the most famous of all women’s prerogatives—changing her mind—we’ll help her clean your clock. We’ll give her your home, children, retirement, and much of your pay check for years to come. You’ll even have to pay her attorney.”

Religious girls

Churches are crawling with predatory females masquerading as born again lilies of the field, but ravenously seeking willing, naive males. Those who bite on the biblical “lord and master” routine being peddled by churchgoing predatory females, being more deluded than most, will find (after the camel gets its head in the tent) their scrotum stretchings twice as miserable.

The book is written in such a plainspoken style that it may serve as a great introduction for hopeless beta males who need to be eased into a new belief system without a shock to their system, especially since it’s much faster to read than The Manipulated Man. I recommend it as required reading for any man who is considering marriage in the West.

This article was originally published on Return Of Kings.

Read More: “The Predatory Female” on Amazon

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DarkTriadMan
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The predatory female is out there. It is incumbent on men to recognize them when they appear, and take steps to set nonnegotiable boundaries.

The destruction she brings may be years in the making. The groundwork of a man’s destruction may be laid slowly, brick by brick, over years and years. But the damage when it comes is usually catastrophic and unrelentingly painful.

If you are a young man starting out in the world and you are happily splashing in the dating pool, be aware.

You are not in an inflatable safe zone with clean, temperate water. You are in the surf of the dark world, where leviathans lurk in the depths and beasts of strange and terrible purpose await the misstep of the unwary. Pay attention to the warning signs of the predatory woman.

If you are a mature man with resources and property and wealth and position, guard yourself.

You are not secure and set and ready to play at leisure in the dating world and select casually from the young women seeking what you have to offer. You are sailing the deeps of the dark world, where the siren song of the blood-lipped mermaid distracts you from the insane shine of murder in her surfacing eyes.

Men owe it to each other, as well, to issue warnings when their brothers are sucked into the spiraling maw of a predatory woman.

When you see it, say it. Never leave your brothers behind in the dark world.

Regards,

Ivan

http://www.darktriadman.com

Elmer T. Jones
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Great stuff and had not seen this book before. I have in mind a series of blog essays titled Before the Manosphere hiliting some of the alternative information sources available to men before the rise of the internet.

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Relationships with the typical modern “liberated” woman is like playing Global Thermonuclear War. The only way to win is to not play at all.

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“The only way to win is to not play at all.”

Excellent advice for all you idiots out there!

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I knew the Rev. I knew his ex-wife. I knew the motivation for this book. He wrote another book called “The Mother, A Suburban Horror Story.” The author was an airline Captain back in the day when that was a big money position. The pay is coming back for that profession, but nothing like the 1970’s-80’s. He knew of what he wrote (now deceased-he died fairly young). I swam in those same waters. I sat next to many men who paid a very heavy price for their dealings in marriage. This was before the “improvements” in present family law which makes the game of marriage an even more serious endeavor for men. I knew more broken men from marriage than I care to count. I received news of some who ended their lives after being chewed up in the family law/shark tank. They were men who worked hard, successful in college, intelligent, highly skilled, and totally destroyed.
This stuff is no joke, those women are out in numbers that are frightening, and it does not end for men even into their fifties and sixties. A lot of the guys I knew in this circle are now retired or dead. Some are still working as they must to make up for the cash they lost. There are men in their sixties still flying around the world, wearing themselves out, trying to get back enough to pay for a ex-wife. They’ll die prematurely as a result.
I knew of men who received a divorce summons days after their retirement pension checks were cashed (they received large lump sums then) and then needed to go back to work as flight instructors earning fractions of their previous pay just to afford an apartment and basic living expenses.
Think long and hard and do not be afraid to dump women who don’t meet your standards and goals. Prenups are a must, and they do work contrary to the MSM stories that try to convince men that they do not.
One last point. I did notice that the men who put less effort in their marriages and relationships and played around a bit seemed to survive fairly well as they seemed less invested in the marriage institution, well aware of the borrowed time they had with their present woman. In other words, they did not give that much to their women as they knew more where more out there (and there are), and they were not indoctrinated in that female-centric mode of thinking as was pointed out in the good Rev.’s book. It was surprising how many of these guys were forgiven for their “mistakes” or how many wives allowed a certain level of behavior with proper discretion. These guys seemed to know how to manage women and not get too invested in the outcome.
This book is a good book to start, based on real life experiences, and field tested. Highly recommended.

Next time you see an older guy ordering coffee next to you, don’t assume they lived a conventional/boomer/low notch count/blue-pill life. Some of the Elders in your village have some good experience in this stuff. This book was written by one such Elder.

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Unfortunately we have to all enter the shark tank to get laid, especially going after younger, more attractive women. That is why our PUA game has to both include picking up, bedding, and last but not least, knowing when and how to pull the plug and move on to the next vendor, as Roosh so eloquently states it, with the least amount of inconvenience and or financial damage. After a long term relationship ended about a year ago, it has been hard to adapt to the modern changes but now I’m doing better than ever. One of the best things I did was move my living room into the backroom and then turn the old living room into a pool room, with a high end pool table and leather cover. It’s a much better pick up line then ‘do you want come over and watch a movie’?. Then I ask if they have ever had sex on a pool table? It seems to turn most of them on!

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Good idea with the pool table at home

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One thing that is nice is that I can go down to the local watering hole, in which most of the regular’s know I bought a pool table, and invite a few back to the house.
They usually supply their own beer and some of the time mine too. I usually drink my shiner bock’s for about a dollar a bottle, compared to $3.50 at the watering hole. I met my latest girl through a friend’s girlfriend that invited her over to my house to play pool. It’s been a win-win so far.

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Does she rack yer balls?

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As long as she doesn’t break them

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Good point. The men who let the bitch hammer them into a house boy ultimately have their throat cut at the first infraction. Women make terrible masters. Same goes for mothers. The perfect ‘mamas boy’ who decides to rebel one day and escape had better keep away from the bitch and never look back. She’ll bellow over the phone ”how chn you abandon me” but as a woman, she’ll never see her fault in being dominant. Women don’t even have awareness when they’re trying to cuck a man. It’s just their nature when they’re not kept properly under the almighty HAMMER OF PATRIARCHY (drumroll) wink

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Can’t this all be avoided by not getting a marriage license/certificate?

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Yes, but the average man’s concept of marriage is so strongly cathected– such an important part of his identity and purpose– that he will still do it.

No matter how hollowed-out and worthless the institution, he will still buy into it as a form of reproductive insurance. And so, by acting irrationally, he courts merciless exploitation.

Marriage is supposed to be neutral for men and good for children.
Modern “marriage” is good… for women.

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So what the hell is the big deal? Don’t get a marriage certificate or license. Done.

Modern marriage is a boon for women. The predatory women this article speaks of specifically targets men to take advantage of the system. It is better than prostitution and they will always have an excuse or alibi to fend off any suspicions of marriage murder in the first degree for free cash. Well not necessarily free as she used her vagina as a lure and trap.

It’s a shame that has what become of women now.

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“It’s a shame that has what become of women now.”

The big deal is not women per se. As Roosh says, women simply take the shape of their container.

What really matters is how our leadership has failed. Critical social institutions have been upended, and in the case of marriage cynically inverted, just to placate a generation of spoiled girls. This is very bad, even if you don’t care about the marriage ritual.

Marriage is a major loss, and will have huge unintended consequences, but it simply a canary in the coal mine. Next up on the chopping block are patriarchal stalwarts like freedom of expression, free association, and “justice.”

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And, with respect to my earlier comment, men will STILL sign up, despite the obvious danger and the farcical inversion, somehow rationalizing their actions. Gay “marriage” anyone? It’s a joke.

The question is how readily will they go along with other attempts at “deconstruction?” What new sorts of indignities will they enjoy? Where is the limit?

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You’re right. I wasn’t placing blame on women just the fact it’s sad what has become of them.

“What really matters is how our leadership has failed”. Bang on.

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Your point on single men being heroes means you fell for the feminine trap. Look at patriarchy in the old testament. They are all married. Peter was married, Paul was widowed,

Abraham, Married
Moses, Married
David, Married
Uriah, Married
Joseph, Married

Or look at Sparta, it was a near requirement for them to marry and have children and they didn’t get all squeamish because they had a wife at home when they went off to war. Patriarchy had strong women because the men went off the war the women were expected to keep the house and their house holds were often more like running a business when they had workers or slaves to manage.

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We’re talking about modern day society here—–not something that may (or may not) have occurred millennia ago.

And ancient Sparta? You can have it my friend……….

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“We’re talking about modern day society here—–not something that may (or may not) have occurred millennia ago”

Exactly. The bible is a document with a profound message, but one should never take verbatim the stories from it.

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Hahaha, these posts are great/hilarious!!! Ancient male Greeks were also popular for having a younger adolescent male “friend” which they helped “become men” by acting as teachers or “pedagogues” (notice the prefix)…
“You can have it my friend….” I second the motion…No chomo

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And that was the strength of their society. They turned all males into apprentices.

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Strong women rubs me the wrong way. Has a whiff of women wanting to be masculine.

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Rarely is the strong woman like Traci in “Her Majesty’s Secret Service”.

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Practically every female example you have (excepting Joseph) caused trouble for her husband.

Abraham’s wife (Sarah): bullied him into having Ishmael, then complained about Hagar.
Moses’ wife: “You are a bridegroom of blood to me” (Zipporah), left Moses for a time
David’s wife: Michal was a b!tch in the end, cursed by God with a barren womb
Uriah’s wife: Bathsheba used her feminine wiles to seduce the king, and ultimately Uriah was murdered by David.

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That doesn’t mean one shouldn’t marry. It is a necessity for the men who have the capacity to marry.

Some of these examples are the fault of the man ie. Abraham allowing the bullying and ceding to his wife’s desires and the King allowing himself to be seduced by a woman.

Keeping a wife isn’t an easy task. Takes constant monitoring and maintenance. No woman is perfect as is no man.

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I agree with your comment fully.

The intent of my original response was to point out that even in the heyday of the patriarchy they still had similar problems as men today (even though the past and present cultures are very different).

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haha.. when male do something wrong is male at fault . but when female do something wrong male at fault too. wow women like an angel can do no wrong. awesome world

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There are limits to everything. Do not take what I say to mean that men should be suckers to be used by women. No. Women are the way they are because WE, both men and women, have allowed ourselves to be tricked. As men if we take responsibility for the situation, great healing can be accomplished to the benefit of both women and men

We as men set the boundaries and if you go past them you will pay the price. It’s only our fault if those boundaries are not drawn or clearly stated prior to engagement. Even badly damaged women are capable of learning to have normal relationships again with the right man but it takes a lot of work to bring forth and heal those wounds. This is the best path to take rather than pointing a finger at women or giving up on them.

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all these men lived in a society that respected men and don’t given all the power to women. we are in a society that despise men and give way to much power to women. so! we can’t blindly choose marry a woman and hope it will go well, it would be foolish.

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hey bro. if this day like an old super old day i will get married too.

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Robert Ruark’s the Honey Badger is a red pill book from 1965:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Honey-Badger-Robert-Ruark/dp/B003U2KSSO

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“El varón domado” (literally “The Tamed Man”), 1971, is a famous essay (It’s not a novel) from Argentinean psychologist Esther Vilar.

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Should be mandatory reading material for all men.

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Shockingly spot on the $$. He even articulates each idea succinctly, and applicable as if it was written yesterday by an ROK author. Amazing really, but even back in the 90s I knew things were rigged.. just to the extent and exact likings for which, I could never put my finger precisely on, until the last 4-5 years thanks to the manosphere.

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” I could never put my finger precisely on, until the last 4-5 years thanks to the manosphere”

And hopefully in another 5 years the wisdom from Predatory Female and Manupulated Man will be common knowledge to all men and the proper changes to society will transpire.

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Just to clarify the above point, The Manipulated Man (Der Dressierte Mann) is a 1971 book by Esther Vilar. It, too, can be found for free by googling.

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You’re correct; I should have mentioned this too. Thanks for the reminder. Both these books are classics and normally I dont condone pulling a freebie book that technically copyrighted, but with the NGO s handing out one hundred thousand copies of feminist propaganda to boys at primary schools, the manosphere has to counter this.

That said, I think a elementary school version of Predatory Female and Manipulated Man should be published and should be produced and distributed gratis to young boys.

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Ouch! That hurt reading that. I’ll never hear those words again and not think of this. Thanks for posting it.

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“Thanks for posting it.”

You’re welcome. “Ouch” was also my reaction.

“No man will ever be loved as a human being by a woman, ever.” states the original ROK article those photo-memes are from: http://www.returnofkings.com/42941/the-manipulated-man-a-holy-bible-of-red-pill-wisdom

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Red pill knowledge is not an option anymore. It’s a MUST. Oh wait, I take it back. It was ALWAYS a must. It’s just more needed today thanks to feminism, SJWs, and society’s effect on men today. Back then I bet all this was just another common sense but when you live in today’s world where common sense isn’t so common, that’s what’s so frightening and alarming.

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Guys, a free .pdf of The Predatory Female is here http://www.revolucionantifeminista.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lawrence-shannon-the-predatory-female.pdf

There are other sources too.

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“I recommend it as required reading for any man who is considering marriage in the West.”

The West? For fucks sake, Roosh and all due respect, haven’t your experiences in Eastern Europe taught you anything? What country were in when you wrote your article “Water takes the shape of the container it fills” Womens True Nature? http://www.rooshv.com/the-true-nature-of-women

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The author has a limited understanding of the Bible, inasmuch as he claims that wives are not expected to love their husbands (page 96).

Titus 2, anybody?

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The Western Christian churches that teach Titus 2, Ephesians 5, and 1 Peter 3 are rare animals (former evangelical), and if they do, it’s not the way the Bible teaches: typically thus: “If my husband leads me correctly / makes me feel loved, I will want to submit to him”.

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Yes, what you say reflects exactly what I hear. Jokes like “I make the rules and my wife makes all the amendments” make my heart sink.

However, the author categorically stated that women are not commanded to love their husbands as they are incapable of love. Ouch. Not true, either.

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Both assertions by the author are true.

The men need the respect of their wives (the wife is commanded to reverence / respect her husband in Eph 5:33), and husbands are instructed to love their wives (Ephesians 5:25). Ask any man what he would prefer (between love and respect), and he will answer ‘respect’.

Titus 2 basically tells the older women to TEACH / INSTRUCT younger women in

1) temperance over their passions and conduct (discretion and wisdom), and

2) love (that is, philandros) towards the husband: that is the special affection of a woman for her life-time mate (husband), embracing him as her “calling” (stewardship) from God (reference: Strong’s Greek: http://biblehub.com/greek/5362.htm)

If love was somehow innate to woman, they won’t need to be taught, and Paul would not have give such instructions. And today we see the fruits of that lack in the ‘slut culture’ (or Proverbs 7:10-27).

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Well, love of the sort described in 1 Corinthians 11 isn’t innate to either sex. Both men and women are exhorted to show self sacrificial love.

I’m agreeing with you (I think), I just want to clarify that while true love isn’t innate to women, they are capable of it.

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“Well, love of the sort described in 1 Corinthians 11 isn’t innate to
either sex. Both men and women are exhorted to show self sacrificial
love.”

Two different kinds of love: (philandros) love v. sacrificial love (agape). Apples and oranges. I’m talking in the specific case of husband v. wife and romantic context (as the author probably is too).

“I just want to clarify that while true love isn’t innate to women, they are capable of it.”

Men (by nature) are the more loving sex: men are the ones dropping to their knees and proposing, men are the ones slaying the monster to prove their worth, men are ones doing the ridiculous proposals in public (and moreover are expected to be the one proposing).

If I may establish the proper frame: it’s not about human relations; it’s all about GOD.

We are told that if we love God, we obey His commands. If the wife LOVES God, she will submit and reverence her husband DESPITE if she thinks he made the right decision or if she ‘feels’ like it.

Likewise if the husband LOVES God, he will treat his wife with compassion (like the weaker vessel she is) DESPITE the fact she acts like PMSy shrew.

It’s not about who in charge; God has already established the existing authority of the world: God > husband > wife > kids.

In the end, It’s all about our obedience to God.

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Exactly.

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“If love was somehow innate to woman, they won’t need to be taught, and Paul would not have give such instructions. And today we see the fruits of that lack in the ‘slut culture’ (or Proverbs 7:10-27)”

Indeed. I don’t think smartphones and social media has ruined women; these current technologies (along with the removal of all social constraints) have merely made their true nature much more apparent.

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Whenever a paper copy of this book is available, it goes for hundreds of dollars. I have been looking to find one for 20 bucks or so for a long time. I think it is a conspiracy not to republish this book.

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I love the point on so-called religious girls.

They are full of crazy delusions for out of the starting blocks, most of them following false faiths, crazy new-age spirituality, and their own irrational feelings rather than God. Furthermore, in addition to all the other feminists worshiping institutions, the Church doubles down on the the notion that man is created for women, rather than Eve for Adam. The feminized beta boy emotional basket cases of church leadership twist the scriptures to cuckold men.

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Also known as “Churchianity:” a contemporary American spiritual revival of bovine clit-gazing. Administered by a priestly class of comically self-cuckolding acolytes and eunuchs. Parasitically masquerades as traditional Christianity. Theology: a syncretic jumble of radical feminism and Disney movie motifs. Delightfully judgement-free. Narrative revolves around a misunderstood bad-boy boyfriend figure named Jesus.

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Guys do you know Rooshv email because i want to talk to him about something, do you think he’ll respond?

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Probably not, unless you have a good business proposition, perhaps

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I am halfway through reading the book after seeing this article. No punches are pulled and the truths contained within it resonate deeply in my experienced middle aged single mans mind. Well worth the read. *** Warning – Not for the faint hearted.

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To this, I posit, women’s nature is that of pure evil. Yin (masculine/creative) and Yang (feminine/destruction).

To be free as gods we MUST excise our parasite.
There is no net gain from women — only liability.

What can we do in the face of this tyranny?
Women have nothing to offer that a hyper realistic sexbot doesn’t — at much higher quality with extraordinarily lower risks.
The artificial womb supplies us with children free from genetic defects.
These 2 tools combined spell the extinction of evil.

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this is in ‘personality disorders’ in wikipedia….it applies to most women:

Histrionic
Dramatic, seductive, shallow, stimulus-seeking, vain. Overreact to
minor events. Exhibitionistic as a means of securing attention and
favors. See themselves as attractive and charming. Constantly seeking
others’ attention. Disorder is characterized by constant
attention-seeking, emotional overreaction, and suggestibility. Their
tendency to over-dramatize may impair relationships and lead to
depression, but they are often high-functioning

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The first pdf result of the book from “revolucionantifeminista.com” has pages missing. Interestingly enough, I am unable to find another version. Does anybody have one they can share with me?

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Ooof – Brutal!