For most of my adult life, I was pretty confident that Washington DC was the worst possible city for a man to live in, but I have found a place that is worse: Toronto, Canada. Here are the reasons why…
1. Girls are more excited about getting late night food than having sex
Do you remember how excited you were as a kid on Christmas when opening up the hot toy of the season? Well that’s how groups of Toronto girls act at last call when they realize it’s time to stuff their face with hot dogs, poutine, or diner fare. I thought women in DC were a little weird about getting pizza after the bars close, but the women of Toronto take it to another level—they have a plan to eat junk food before they even start drinking.
2. Girls cockblock more than anywhere else in the world
Good luck trying to have a ten minute non-interrupted conversation in a bar or club if her friends are nearby. If they don’t physically pull her away from you then what happens is that a rotating gaggle of women will come to “check up” on her, as if you’re on the verge of beating or raping her in full view of everyone. I’ve never seen such baby-like behavior in the Western world. I even experienced a case where the fat friend of a girl I was talking to said that I could “proceed” with the conversation. Fuck that.
3. Girls think they are cooler than they actually are
In DC you have a bunch of lame people who think they are important because of their government job. In Toronto you have a bunch of lame people who think they are cool because… I don’t know why. This is even worse because instead of trying to impress you with the work they’re doing, they try to impress you with slang, name-dropping, or commenting on how “busy” they are. I remember when a girl tried to insult me by calling me a “fucktard” and another white bread girl said to “get at” her. Just because you know the words to a Drake song and go to hip restaurants doesn’t make you cool.
4. Girls are obese
I’m afraid that America has to take some blame for this because it seems that the our lifestyle has corrupted Canadian girls. It’s a shame because a lot of them have cute faces (they’re more attractive overall than DC chicks), but once you catch sight of her fat arms and the muffin top she’s trying to hide by wearing black, you start thinking of the porn clip you’ll soon be masturbating to.
5. Girls don’t give eye contact
I know some girls are reading right now and thinking, “They don’t give you eye contact because you are ugly!” This very well may be the case, but in Montreal I got daily eye contact from women who were much better looking than the Toronto specimens I had to deal with. Not only that, but Montreal women would smile at me. Yes, you read that right: attractive women would look at me and smile. In Toronto I might as well have been invisible.
6. You have to be approved by the “mother hen”
Every social circle in Toronto has an overweight woman who acts as a leader of the pack. She is the one who tells girls where to go and who to talk to. Apparently this is how she gets power in life since she’s unable to exert the upper hand over men due to her unattractive and portly appearance. If the mother hen doesn’t approve of you then you will not get laid. She can snap her fingers and her minions jump to attention so that they are not excluded from the tribe. Therefore not only do you have to build attraction with the girl you like, but you also have to charm a fat and ugly girl to give you permission to just continue the interaction.
7. Too many Asian and Indian girls
I think legal immigration is a great thing because it allows people from third world countries to lift their station and have a go at a first world lifestyle, but if you like white girls, a place like Toronto just won’t do. At any bar at least 30% of the female clientele will be filled with minority races that don’t appeal to discriminating men like myself. While the Asian girls weren’t that bad since they adopted a white manner of appearance, the Indian girls were absolutely not attractive.
8. Ugly girls are desperate while attractive girls are inaccessible
It shouldn’t be much of a challenge if you want to bang a Toronto girl who is a 5 or below. She will approach you, smile at you, and be generally easy (though of course you’ll still need game to seal the deal). In the accidental conversations I had with these unattractive women, I wished I had lower standards so that I could have mostly carefree sex that happens a million times a day in most parts of the world. In Toronto, however, once you get into the 6 range, the difficulty of banging increases in shocking fashion. The 6’s and 7’s give you attitude or are encased in huge social groups. The 8’s and above, if you happen to see them, already have dudes.
9. The entrenched PUA culture is raising the egos of all women
I thought that Washington DC had a strong pickup culture, but I hadn’t been to Toronto. PUAs are like rats in Toronto, infecting many venues with their fake high energy, puffed-out chests, loud fashion accessories, and total sobriety. On Thursday night I went to Madison Avenue Pub where I got to see at least 50 of them approach every woman in the bar. As much as I want to hate on them for increasing the girls’ bitch shields, I now understand why they do it: they have to. The best game in Toronto is not being an interesting man but just approaching a million girls with your freezeouts and spin moves and negs until you find the horny girl who wants to fuck.
10. Last call is at 2am
It wouldn’t be so bad if venues didn’t get hopping until midnight, but two hours is simply not enough time to find a good venue, mingle, and meet an attractive woman who you want to take home. By the time you get warmed up, it’s time to go. In Toronto you won’t have enough time for a real seduction, so what you see at the end of the night is a bunch of phone numbers being exchanged before girls rush off to a diner to stuff their face.
11. If you make just one mistake with a Toronto girl, you will be rejected
Your conversation has to be 100% perfect and 100% politically correct. You can’t say anything that can be remotely construed as offensive, weird, or needy. Once I told a girl that I like “feminine women” and she immediately ditched me as if I farted. In Toronto the best game is to speak like you’re a White House spokesperson. And god help you if you utter a lame joke! In one case I was talking to a girl for 30 minutes and had kept the conversation tight enough that we were getting to the kissing stage. Then I made a mediocre joke and she said, “Wow that was corny. I should leave now.” This came from a woman who didn’t say one interesting or funny thing to me all night and thought I would be impressed with her “marketing” job. Toronto women would absolutely never get laid if they were men.
12. It’s very expensive
Food, drinks, taxis, and lodging are all more expensive than DC. Do you get any additional value for paying more? Nope, you only get crappier women and intolerable weather.
13. It’s a suburban city
Most of the people who party within the center on weekends actually live in boring cul-de-sacs. Friday and Saturday nights in Toronto is like how Washington DC is on New Year’s Eve: amateur hour. You get a bunch of office drones with no character or class crowding venues and acting like they’ve never seen alcohol or the opposite sex before. My best night out was Monday because there was a total lack of 905’ers.
14. It takes a lot of work to date up
I never saw an average-looking guy with a hot girl, but I saw many attractive guys with average girls. Toronto is a penis paradise where a woman can date a man much more attractive than she is pretty. If you’re not a good looking guy, you either have to own a nightclub or approach 100 girls a week.
15. It beats men down
I saw too many men who looked like corpses. They had no color, no energy, and seemingly no will to live. Spending too much time in Toronto will reduce your ambition, your horniness, and your happiness. Many guys I talked to said that when they traveled abroad, they couldn’t believe that hotter women made regular eye contact with them and responded with gentle smiles and warm vibes. Toronto is one of those cities that can make men hate life. Staying out of here becomes essential for your mental health.
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Both Toronto and DC suck, but I wouldn’t hesitate to pick DC first. The nightlife gets going earlier and lasts longer. More girls live in the city. There is much less cockblocking. It’s not a deal breaker if you say a bad joke. Girls actually want to get laid, and it’s simply easier to get one-night stands. While Toronto had prettier women overall, it’s not enough to make it a better city. You know you’re in a crappy place when it’s midnight and you are more concerned about spending less money than having a good time with a cool chick. For the nights I spent going out in Toronto, I wished I stayed in and read a couple good books instead.
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Holy shit this is true. Thanks man.
Many of the women in Toronto are whores, and the world knows it.
Get help
I agree, get help – it’s called a bus – get the fuck out of there.
Tru dat homes.
Hi there, Tommy Eagle,
Feminism in Toronto explained:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxCWJNzJwXI
Toronto women are fvking horrible man. I’m leaving Toronto for good by 2017.
wow I think I should move to TO if it’s this hostile to delusional angry hostile repugnant MRA’s
I think you should kill yourself Mcfeminist bitch, your time will come when you are in a dark alley, the ecnonomy has collapsed and men are no longer governed by feminazi law. You will hide in fear, crying, hoping to live another day of your miserable life and no one will stop the inevitable. Laws are only enforced by men with guns, what will you do when those men are busy defending their families and don’t give a shit about you or the feminist laws that I know for a fact, police can see and realize are unfair. Sure move here, but you will be no safer here than anywhere else. Feminism cannot keep women safe when the shit goes down and all your feminist laws will be useless. before that, start shoving your feminazi bullshit in my face and you will wear my drink as a personal insult.
These cows in a warped way want to see if they can damage Canadian men and push them to the limit. Once these invading barbarians come they’ll submit, get inline and will give their pussies to them willingly.
So true
I think we realized why you’re still single and can’t find a woman. Damn, how much do you hate your mom that you think it’s appropriate to think that women standing up for themselves warrants this kind of reply? No woman would be interested in you if that’s your mindset. Be better.
beta males and white knights empower the fems more than any law
Hahhaha faggoty ass cunt.
It’s not, Toronto is not hostile to any group including men’s rights groups, which is why Toronto has Canada’s first and only charitable educational center exclusive to men’s issues. Toronto’s by far the most progressive city in Canada and one of the most progressive cities in the world both for men and women of every cultural ethnicity, regardless of sexual orientation. The truth is that there’s no room for trouble makers of any kind in such a prosperous city as Toronto. It’s a city that attracts winners, both men and women that want to get ahead. It’s a city that also repels losers, aggressive female assholes will not be tolerated anymore then their male counterparts. If your a trouble maker, you won’t last long in Toronto.
F!!k out of here. Toronto girls think they are above others. How you gonna be on the bus, clothes don’t match and think your better?
You’re judging women on the bus because they’re clothes don’t match? And that’s a Toronto thing? Maybe consider that they’re on the bus to do their own thing and not on the bus to dress to impress you. It must be nice dressed up fancy all the time. Yet here you are complaining about women when you can’t get one.
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Barf. Toronto is full of SJW, MGTOWs and PUAs
uhhh riiiight. you don’t sound like a cunt at all.
See ya!
If you’re a man with any ambition it’s a horrible city.
If you’re a dude who doesn’t mind to live in debt, not own anything, be unhealthy, not speak your mind, suck up to fake-ass bitches who are given the whole world just for existing… then yeah it can be ok.
It’s not a place where you can live a normal life as a heterosexual male without an ethnic niche to fall back on (like the UofT Asian nerds or East Asian/Middle Eastern second generation crowds).
It’s not a place for a good-looking/intelligent guy with a range of interests. Roosh personifies this pretty well. He wants to experience life and be creative. In Toronto you’ll be shunned as a dude for showing too much originality or criticizing the status quo. By originality I mean actual originality… You can dress like a fag or freak all you want but if you show that you have a backbone and your own ideas/perspectives on things, you will be at best ignored.
In Toronto your job as a man is to get into finance and pay for women and the government.
The worst of it all though is that 99.99999% of dudes you meet will tell you how women are oppressed and it’s about time men got a taste of their own medicine.
Is it any coincidence though that the vast majority of these manginas can’t hold a job that requires any more effort or skill than serving coffee?
I could go on for pages but I know you understand… I’ve seen your posts before…
“The worst of it all though is that 99.99999% of dudes you meet will tell
you how women are oppressed and it’s about time men got a taste of
their own medicine.”
Surely not me! Ne pas moi!
I believe Toronto women who work office jobs are oppressing men with their draconian feminist laws.
There are so many PC regulations and laws now that it’s pretty difficult to wade through it.
I have a professor who has made it a rule to always record his public lectures. The reason being that he was accused by a female student of being a hate-monger and disrespectful.
This student was most likely just upset that she sucked, but decided to use the administrative infrastructure to put this guy’s career at risk.
I could write a whole ROK post about the PC nightmare that is administration in Toronto… And after The Battle of Toronto I’m sure they’d all believe me, regardless of how absurd it would sound.
If a woman gets knocked out or trampled upon by some animalistic thug, well I won’t interfere at all but will be packing to protect my own because the likes of Stephanie Gutherie are not worth my trouble.
If a man gets knocked out or beat up by a thug, I guess you won’t interfere at all because the likes of Paul Bernardo aren’t worth your trouble?
See how stupid your logic is?
what you described it the way it is for men troll
It’s tough when your Premier looks like Orville Redenbocker in drag.
While she’s hideous, wtf does her looks have to do with anything? Are you 10?
That’s like saying “I believe Toronto men who work office jobs are oppressing women with their draconian patriarchal laws.” Trying to oppress a gender sounds dumb when it goes the other way, eh?
The feministes of Toronto have created an anti-freedom atmosphere that even a parent filing a complaint against a female teacher in Toronto is more likely to be arrested for “harassment” and framed for a crime, than to be congratulated for encouraging accountability in the TDSB.
Toronto is a very nasty place where the feminists & incompetent thrive. Honestly, I feel that Communist China is more freer than Toronto.
Why don’t you go to Communist China then? And instead of saying something stupid about complaints about female teachers resulting in the person who filed the complaint getting in trouble, why don’t use facts?
I.e. Male teachers are often predators and prey on teenage girls. There are several news stories of that.
Be smarter.
This type of generalization is pathetic and sad… “in Toronto you will be shunned as a male if you show too much originality.”
What retarded impotent kind of bullshit is this lol.
I said it sucks for ambitious men. I know guys here who dig it.
Looking back on this post I feel the same now as when I first wrote it.
Ontarios economy is turning to shit and we have corrupt politicians pissing our money away. Torontonians are up to their eyeballs in debt and it’s considered normal.
About another year of saving money and I’ll be out of here.
I don’t think the women here are worth the investment for a guy who wants a creative or houghtdul life. The city just doesn’t support it unless you’ve already got money… And if you have money there must be better places to spend your life.
“Ontarios economy is turning to shit and we have corrupt politicians pissing our money away. Torontonians are up to their eyeballs in debt and it’s considered normal. ”
Completely agree with this. Toronto is no city for an ambitious person, unless they have personal connections to a law firm or in some cushy public sector agency like Ontario power generation.
Most Canadians have little disposable income. In toronto the main strategy is to get on the public sector payroll pronto. It is unsustainable long term.
Spent 5 years there, but oddly enough I found the woman situation to be fine. Better than Seattle at any rate.
It’s tough when your Premier looks like Orville Redenbocker in drag
Toronto sucks!! Fat liberal pale women. Miami women, you just can’t get any better. Latino women are by far the hottest women on earth and you will not find any in Toronto.
Sorry I’m not a big fan of arm hair, butthole hair, mustaches, etc… apart from that latin women are pretty hot.
No to be mean but I don’t get what your saying? Are you talking about Toronto women because you described them to a tee in your comment. I live in Miami and the women are Beautiful. My best friend Played for the Maple Leafs and I use to spend a lot of time there. At least the stuck up girls in Miami beach are Dime pieces.
Hey man I’m completely turned off women in general as far as relationships go, but I wouldn’t paint them with that broad a brush so as to say that all women from Toronto are stuck up, etc. I’ve had girlfriends with all different types of personality, and sometimes I’ve been the abusive one, etc. Latina women are hot but they tend to have/show a lot of body hair is all I’m saying. Every latina girl I know waxes her mustache.
Toronto women are ugly.
who gives a shit why are you even looking for women in the first place. waste of time
This guy is such a beta http://www.joeydevilla.com/about/
He was insulting Roosh.
Yep
Tommy Eagle, Whores is an understatement. They are backward, amateur whores and they hate and spite handsome men, but can’t let you go either.
idiots TROLL its SHITY SUBURBAN CITY anti whites
Bratty and obnoxious the worst combination. That blonde cunt with the glasses giving that smirk oh man it reminds of the 300 lbs strong black women meme that makes me want to vomit.
Remember Margaret Trudeau?
you forgot to mention all of canada but i have to give some slack to vancouver, they have just slightly more class
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Too many men have told me that this place is the worst (especially for single men). I’ll make sure to avoid it (not even planning a trip to that city). Why would I spend a dime going to a city that obviously hates men? I’ll save the money for a trip to another country or city (South America, maybe).
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If you have a heavy accent should be good tho. Lol
Have you considered that maybe women in Toronto are too classy to sleep with douche bags like you and the rapist who runs this site?
I’ve seen the women in Toronto and the word “classy” isn’t a word I would use to describe them.
C’est vrai oui. Les femmes du Toronto sont mauvais et slutty!
“Sexy Horse” describes Toronto women.
lol
women don’t know what class is anymore,like I said they have too many options and todays society is all set up for women and minorities to excel.at white mens expense.so go fuck yourself.
Wow, you sound like a real expert on women and minorities. It sure is a good thing white men like you are around to tell everyone what to think and do.
who cares, everyone dies, so just go live your life, i dont care who succeeds or who is setup for success
who gives a shit who would sleep with anyone, just go take drugs, and live in a shack
Are you white? Girls are obssesed with white man in here.You won’t even need to pick up,man. Good luck!
but are the women white?micegenation is wrong.
only women worse than canadian and american woman are women of eastern europe mostly russia and ukraine for i know my family came from southern russia back in early ’50’s
Toronto may well be the worst major city. But Waterloo is an hour away, so it has largely the same types of women. But being home to the University of Waterloo (famous for computer science, math and engineering), and lots of tech companies it also has a skewed gender ratio. Imagine what Toronto would be like if you added 20% more men!
Toronto already has 20% more single men than women so I feel sorry for Waterloo.
Full of doosh bag ” trendies ” If you an hour north your bound to find better results
stay single, only way to go anyway, waste of time anything else
Steve spiros, is that you? I just watched your video on youtube.
Steve Spiros, is that you? I just watched your video on youtube.
Every point on this list is eerily similar to St. Louis (my hometown).
منذ المكانس المهنية هي الماجستير في هذا المجال من التنظيف، فهي قادرة على إعطاء وظيفة مرضية في ترك مكاتبكم نظيفة بقدر ما ينبغي أن يكون. هل يمكن أن نتوقع أن المكاتب الخاصة بك وسوف رائحة، وتبدو أكثر نظافة. ستلاحظ أنك لن تشعر حتى أنظف عندما كنت داخل مكتبك. لا يوجد المزيد من النقاط التي تم تفويتها عند تنظيف حتى ويضمن لك أنه مهما سطح كنت على اتصال، وسوف تكون نظيفة تماما. شركة مكافحة حشرات بالرياض – شركة تنظيف خزانات بالرياض – تنظيف خزانات المياه بالرياض – تنظيف منازل بالرياض – شركة تنظيف منازل بالرياض – شركة مكافحة حشرات بالرياض – مكافحة حشرات بالرياض – شركة تخزين اثاث بالرياض – شركة تخزين عفش بالرياض – شركة مكافحة النمل الابيض بجدة – شركة مكافحة النمل الابيض بالدمام – شركة مكافحة الصراصير بالرياض – مكافحة الصراصير بالرياض – شركة مكافحة البق بالرياض – مكافحة البق بالرياض – شركة مكافحة الفئران بالرياض – مكافحة الفئران بالرياض – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى جدة – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى الدمام – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى القصيم – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى قطر – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى دبي – شركة نقل اثاث من الرياض الى ابو ظبي – شركة تنظيف بالرياض – شركة مكافحة حشرات بالرياض
Are you hoping to meet the man of your dreams tonight?
..No!
Comedy gold. We’ve all been there.
No wonder Eric James Horvat-Markovic later known as “Mystery” Eric von Markovik, author of the book known as “The Mystery Method” and host of the VH1 television series known as “The Pickup Artist” made his start in Toronto where he was born and raised. Some of you may like him, some of you may dislike him, and all of you have your reasons. Whatever his strengths and weaknesses, the GAME, SEDUCTION, and PICK UP ARTISTS community owes him at least some gratitude. He learned what he learned and taught it based on his experiences from Toronto. This might be a rhetorical question(Answer in the affirmative “YES!!!”): If you can successfully GAME women, especially beautiful women, Toronto, then can you successfully GAME women elsewhere?
Souless women
who wants those kind of bitches who are impressed by some mtv pickup artist?who is an ugly bugger I might add.who wants those easily impressed airheads?women at clubs in general are trash.
This blog entry is just scary to me due to how true it all is.
A long time ago I lived in Toronto for a couple years, and in the Toronto suburbs for another two.. it was nearly the end of me.
By the end of it all I cursed life itself and lost all sense of self respect. I became depressed and overweight, it wasn’t until I moved away that my spirits started picking up and I improved my health and lifestyle. A location change was all I needed.
One thing not mentioned here about the people (yes, the men too) of Toronto. Generally they are also incredibly underhanded and there’s this get ahead by any means necessary mentality, wether that be socially or in a work environment.
Don’t forget the horrible weather at that latitude.
snakes
interisting this data about Toronto.
is PUA culture a reaction to a ultrafeminist environment? like as antibodies and microbes …
No
How did Toronto get to the the Worst City? See #9: “The entrenched PUA culture is raising the egos of all women”
Toronto’s where Mystery started the “culture,” which begat Toronto having the most PUA lairs per capita in the world, which begat women being approached dozens of times per night with the same tired lines and game.
Which begat #2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 11, 14.
What’s the philosophy of Roosh et al? More aggressive and more frequent pick-up attempts — to be an “approach machine.”
In science and Nature, we refer to that as a “runaway feedback loop.” Invariably it leads to some sort of collapse and a complete paradigm reset.
Anyone wonder what that will be? I’m hoping it won’t be that All Cities In The World = As Bad As Toronto.
Please, it has absolutely nothing to do with any book about PUA.
I was there in the late 80s and it sucked massively, just God awful.
I will always regret those years in T.O.
I thank God for the years provided to me in Tokyo. It more than made up for the complete hell of Toronto.
I’ve been to Tokyo when I was 13 (comming from Toronto) for a week, and that week alone got me soo much more attention from girls of my age than literally the 4 years of school that I did till then in Toronto!!
Exactly, you’re invisible if you are male. You have to play the clown to get any traction
Sounds like the Japanese women have lower standards. At least you found a city where being a 4 is good enough
Aw, too bad for you no man outside (or inside) the GTA will go for your trigglypuff ass with that attitude hun.
“Every point on this list is eerily similar to St. Louis (my hometown).”
Coming to a city near you.
St.Louis is a liberal city…… If it is blue = Blue Balls for men
Wow, I live on the other side of Canada, albeit in a smaller city, and this is bang on. Only difference here, is that the options are A) sloppy broads getting drunk out of their minds at the clubs, or B) psycho hipster feminazis at the “music” joints. Good luck if you can hear a fucking word they’re saying, because the places are so goddamn loud. Even better luck at finding a warm, feminine woman at places like these.
Another note: “You have to be approved by the ‘mother hen'” is exactly how I got dropped from an entire social circle after taking my does of red. Coincidentally, all the males in that tribe are perpetually single.
It is funny how the well known players and PUA’s (Roosh, Mystery, Heartiste, Owen Cook) came out of the DC and Toronto area.
as a result of all the PUA’s here, Toronto was also the first city in the world where PUA tactics were discovered by women, palm reading for me around 2002-2005 was gold, but already by 2006 girls were calling me out on it, and other popular PUA gimmicks were outed and resulted in eye rolling from women.
I find day game in the suburbs is best for me now, the downtown club game is awful, everyone is too cool for school, diva attitude reigns, and yes, inordinate amount of south asians, arabs blacks, and east asians, the indian/paki men in particular like to spend big bucks on the elusive white goddess prize– its a turd world shithole here.
That sounds great…East Asians, Blacks, Arabs…all WAY better than boring white girls.
“East Asians, Blacks, Arabs…all WAY better than boring white girls.”
Uh, no. East Asians are okay, but blacks and Arabs are ugly and stupid. But yeah, go ahead and racemix, stupid fuck.
It’s a third world shithole.
The white bitchez love immigration.
Racist fucktard. We know why you white guys go for the Asian bitches. And then move on to Asian boys in E.Asia.
Ouchy. You called someone a racist. Racist is a bad term. That hurts peoples feelings…
And Toronto sucks ass for the primary reason that it has no soul. None. It exists purely as an economic vassal.
hmmm, I assumed you were latin
you fool
They just don’t tell mommy/daddy about it and even the indians/paki men with lots of dollars are usually borderline or socially retarded with women let alone white women.
I have no idea why so many ethnic men want white women. So fucking stupid. I think they watch too much TV, movies, and porn. They tolerate way more shit from white women than most white men.
I have a few friends from different ethnic backgrounds and a good number have white girlfriends or wives, but what I noticed is that all of them are dating “down”, mostly women with serious issues and flaws.
It’s because most of those ‘ethnic’ men find white women better looking than their own race of women.
Indian men in particular are desperate for white skin especially research their hierarchy practice of the caste system where wives are chosen based on fair skin. Fairer skin of a wife means higher status in life.
That Asian comment was kinda weird, but then again you did grow up in America.
But is it really that bad in Toronto? I just crawled out from under a rock, so I’m still earning basic social norms.
Geez, I’m kinda dreading the whole dating scene there.
great analysis
#’s 2, 5, 7, 8, 11-14 hit home the hardest
Guys, no, MEN! I have a proposal. Forget women, let’s start fucking each other. Now I know this is a pretty extreme stance to take on the ever increasing popularity of the dreaded feminism, but I think that we have something here.
Men can be caring, compassionate, and very understanding.
We also tend to keep our emotions under pretty good lock and key, save for the pride fueled rage-outs. But we’re men if we can work on blowing up monkeys in outer space, can work on this.
Take a look at History: most of the greatest and compassionate leaders were men. I men where were the women!? Lazing about, I bet!
Still though, I propose we we open s scientific organization that can act as an academic forum where we can discuss such intellectual topics as:
How to impregnate men
How to remove the “female” aspect from women.
How spot and cure PMS and bitchy mood swings from in-utero females
How give men functional mammary glads?
Pussibly -that’s right, I said “pussibly”- looking into the human social conditioning of animals, and in turn, bestiality. This should also us to monopolize on all of that untapped ‘jungle’ pussy.
How to remove the “men” aspect from women.
And If it all sounds too much, we can even discuss the magical concept of “suicide” and how it solves all of your problems, and probably several other people’s problems as well.
So good!
Your manners just may be your problem, sir. I find you offensive and we haven’t even met. At 22 attending the university of Toronto I’d say your comments are backward. Women of Toronto reject you not for your lack of peacocking as you say, but for your lack of a brain. Typical though you are suiting yourself to the ” ignorant American” stereotype.
I agree with S.G. What a stereotypical American idiot.
Toronto women are sluts and whores. Better women are abroad. Google Winston Wu Happier Abroad, biatch!
Actually women abroad can be sluts and whores too,they usually go for the foreigners..
Ctfu you wahhabi fuck. You prolly one of them perpetual single men in that beta zone…
Wahhabi fuck? Have you been smoking something/
You are an arab, most likely from a gulf state, which is runned by wahabi. YOU should lay off the hooka
No, I don’t smoke Hookah, I am way too busy doing productive things other than living off my daddy’s oil well you dirty jew lover.
You have some issues.
That first girl is hot.
But there ARE successful players in Toronto (see your forum). What do they have that you don’t have?
[Roosh: Low standards. I kid, I kid..]
“That first girl is hot.
But there ARE successful players in Toronto (see your forum). What do they have that you don’t have?”
Simple truth is lots of money
Not true. My boyfriend was in school, jobless when I met him. It was his kind manor that won me over. Some men know how to talk to women, while others don’t. Most men are either idiots or pigs.
Many women in Toronto are fucking whores.
You got infected by them?
And many men are pathetic losers who go onto a pickup artist’s website to get tips on how to get any girl. Oh shit – that’s you!
So your boyfriend lives in a kind manor?
No, probably not, you only notice them, because they are in your face, the rest are likely invisible to you.
Money….if you have money, or appear to have money then the PUA game is extremely easy.
One more thing. About the East Asians. I think it’s odd not to be attracted to Asian women, but everyone is entitled to act on their own preferences.
That said, the large number of Asians might help the odds for guys like Roosh. If you buy the whole Kanazawa idea that Asians have feminine traits so female Asians are extremely desirable and male Asians are not, then this means that in a city of whites and Asians, there will be a surplus of white females and Asian males. If you are interested in white women, like Roosh, then this should help.
East Asian women look like fucking aliens. I’m sorry but I prefer Arab girl who look way more Caucasian :/
Ok so why not an article on the best cities to live in. I think Guelph On wouldnt be to bad.
[Roosh: http://www.rooshv.com/15-factors-that-determine-if-a-city-is-great-for-men ]
theres no way Toronto can be the worst city for men. All worst cities for men reside in the ”good
ol” U.S. of A. cities like Cleveland, Columbus, Omaha, St. Louis, Detroit, Birmingham, Des Moines, Newark, Billings, Milwaukee, Reno, Oakland, etc., etc. The United States of Misery. I live in New Orleans and I hear gunshots every other day.
One of the reasons I’m moving…probably to Asia…Maylasia or Saigon.
It call Malaysia.
Maybe you are weak .Or Maybe you are not attractive ….cheap colons , grassy hair , smoke like chimney, bad breath . Who likes that ?
I think I found the Indian guy!
I agree with most of that except with being politically correct. I think you have to be rude in your flirting and joking because EVERYONE is politically correct. My best results came using straight, traditional game peppered with what most would consider offensive but witty banter. All that said I dont live there anymore because the general climate is terrible, both men and women have a chip on the shoulder and think theyre legitimately important after achieving nothing.
Wow. This sounds terrible. I go Van sometimes but am always impressed with how chill the girls seem to be there.
I would like to hear more about your time in Montreal.
Ugh more Indian comments. Lets see you say that about black people and watch the rooshv sphere explode. Indians are the only unprotected class of people that can be insulted in the roosh v sphere. Indians don’t ruin bars the way Turkish and Arab sausage does in many countries, so speak for yourself.
If the “Indian comments” bother you, stop reading this trash. The less people that read garbage written by idiots, the less supply there’ll be for it.
Ha! I knew it. I wrote to you a year or two ago urging you to check out 1)Paris and 2)Toronto, and I knew exactly what you would encounter in Toronto: people who are unjustifiably convinced that they are very very special indeed. And I learned that about Toronto many years ago, after spending less than a week there — and also by watching a German-made documentary about that insufferably pretentious Toronto filmmaker Atom Egoyan. In that documentary they interview a couple of Toronto nobodies who show you all you will ever need to know about the sort of people Toronto is stuffed with — they are to be avoided at all costs.
Paris on the other hand… even though I lived there for two years, I am not at all confident that I can predict what experience you might have there. I suspect you won’t enjoy it — but it’s much less predictable than Toronto. Go before you get out of this pick-up scene once and for all.
Completely accurate. I was unlucky enough to live there for 5 years downtown & holy shit! Bland, bland, bland. Politically correct, stiff and cold. They like to think they are the NYC of Canada but are wrong, wrong, wrong. Its like NYC if you stripped it of all its attractive women, energy, excitement and interesting aspects. Other than that its identical!
Sounds like Seattle!
And hence why Boeing is a Pussified company nowadays… too many PC manlets gagging up the aerospace industry with women “careers”…
Thanks for telling me that I haven’t missed anything by not going to clubs here in Toronto.
These thankless bitches don’t even deserve making any effort. I’m gonna leave this shit as soon as I get a business underway.
Guys, STOP approaching women in Toronto. Just don’t do it. Don’t go to clubs and then see how things will change.
As a 26 year old male living in the downtown of Toronto, I disagree strongly. It sounds like you may be coming on a little strong, or you may have gone out in the wrong part of the city. If you’re going out near the university, or any of the touristy spots, you’re going to be met with some hostility. There is a plethora of creepers out there, don’t fall into that category.
My experience’s in Toronto could not be more different to yours. There are beautiful, intelligent women everywhere – I couldn’t ask for a better city to live in.
I totally agree with James. If you’re not doing well in Toronto, you’re likely a loser who has no chance no matter the city you’re hunting in. Toronto is loaded with talent and there are thousands of women who live right downtown due to the re-gentrification of the city that has taken place over the last 14 years. If you run into people from suburbia, it is likely because you hit the odd bar that has been overtaken by these bacteria-like individuals. Just exit the bar, turn left or right, and walk 10 steps to find the next location loaded with good quality talent.
The poster seems really butt hurt that he has no game with the ladies
Hahahaha….Roosh dated some fine European and Latin American ladies that a bitch from Toronto can’t compete! Keep on sucking your female professor’s pussy you mangina fucktard! Your women are chimpanzee whores they fuck like animals like dogs
Dated?
More like he gets the girls really drunk and they forget about his name in the morning,fine european and latin american ladies?
As if these ladies never tasted any dick apart from him..
And you are the one to say smack you wahhabi virgin.
Which wahhabi virgin?
Yhoo Musht Ghet all Dhe Mohhamed Chiksh!!!!
You are that wahabi virgin cuz you are an arab.
The point with this article is that you should be able to go out anywhere and still get laid. You don’t have to be specific, have the perfect timing, be politically correct(like the article says), hit on that specific girl with those specific attributes which you’ll only find at 3 different clubs that are 100 miles apart from eachother, etc. it should be easy EVERYWHERE. And if not everywhere, then it should be noticably easy in most places, not just some or few and at a certain time of day. That’s too much complicating. There’s some girls you run into that will talk your head off, and for a guy who frequently runs into women who just sit there like corpses and say nothing and avoid eye contact with EVERYBODY in the room but I still hit on them because I have no other choice, I live in Toronto, or who take days of sleeping over to finally realize that they are not going to get raped and that it’s ok to spread their legs. Of course, they were talkative when we first picked them up, in the car, at the club etc. We wouldn’t have gone after them in the first place if we knew they were going to be prunes and that we would be wasting our time As soon as you bring them over to your place and you try to get them comfortable, no matter if it’s a nice condo or a drug den, they just sit there like vegetables and you could have disco lights and the best tracks playing they don’t give you any signs of life and emotion. This, as well as the other comment about how men in Toronto are underhanded especially at work but pussies when you call them out, reflect on how often or how easily you can get fired for standing up for yourself against an abusive employee or boss, and why half of men ages 18-25 in Scarborough(where the most psychologically normal people live in all of Toronto or the GTA) are engaged in some sort of criminal activity most of the time. This in the end, all reflects on why most people in Toronto, or Canadians in general, are natural introverts. Americans might be direct assholes, but I take their assholishness with a pinch of salt. When a Canadian is an asshole, it ruins my mood and I just want to murder him, literally. I wasn’t born here but I grew up in Canada and most of my life it was the same depressed atmosphere wherever I went, and I’ve lived all over the GTA, Scarborough, North York, Mississauga, Burlington, Oshawa, Ajax, Pickering, 12 different schools and 17 different apartment buildings. By the time I was 14, as I was supposed to I entered grade 9, I was depressed, morbidly obese, suicidal and homicidal, I lost all ambition in life, I didn’t know if I was going to live another year or for what purpose, I had friends that are still my friends to this day but I didn’t feel like hanging out with them back them, there was periods where I wouldn’t even take a shower for 2 weeks or leave the house for days, my parents had to beg me to go outside for fresh air. My psychiatrist upped my dosage, with no avail, and tried getting the school system to put me in a school where I’d be happier, with no avail. My grandma, knowing my situation was dire and having been a second mother to me while my parents were away working for days on end in Macedonia before we moved to Canada, came over here for about a year to take care of me and then suggested she should take me to Macedonia, a change of atmosphere would be good for me. I went there and I did not want to come back to Canada. I stayed there for 3 years. Those 3 years were the best years of my life. It’s piss poor and the girls are impossible to get at and you have to do everything in secrecy and everybody is testy and stingy and harder to talk to than in Canada, but at least they’re reasonable, it’s easy to make friends and socializing will stimulate emotions you never thought you had. I had to come back to Toronto since I finished high school, and a university diploma from over there would not be recognized over here in Canada and finding a job would be difficult, and most jobs pay 20x less than in Canada, literally. Most of the people I knew anyways went to study and work in different cities or countries anyways, so there would be no reason for me to stay there. It was fun while it lasted. I’m still with the batteries that Macedonia charged for me, and that was years ago. The funny thing is Macedonia got labelled the most miserable country in the world in 2011, and is currently still on a high ranking position on the list, while Toronto is supposed to be one of the best cities in the world to live in alongside Zurich, Melbourne and Vienna, and Canada one of the happiest countries as well as with a higher freedom rating than the US! I feel much freer when I go to the US, and even freer in Macedonia. In Canada there’s too many fines, too many regulations, too many limitations, too many people obey the rules. It takes the life out of people. The only thing holding Macedonians back is their backwards mentality.
Damn bro! I read the whole thing. That’s brutal.
We’re talking about Roosh here..
let’s face it, they are just another brand of Americanized bitches. Plus, I can’t stand all this stupid tattoed shit on their body, I’d rather fuck a book.
You mean sex doll?
PLEASEE COME TO VANCOUVER
we have lotta (plenty ugly fobs)indians and asians(even fob still cute) but not as much
ya lotta the indian girls embrace the femisim BS ive meet 3 indian girls(1 persian girl aswell) that were hairer than me..they were fattys too(im alomost as heriy as u)
not many quality desi girls….my indian friend is gettin an arrange marraige(think its forced) to a fat 5….hes the catch decent mug and very musclular ..chest abs lat arms….hes the prize not the fat hog WTF…he can easily get a 7
they think they are cooler casue of that dam self essteem movement(big slf intitlement)
hell even dating up i think is possible here..espically with the asian crowd
but vancouver is wuite pricey and many do come from suburbs
http://livinginthedeadcity.weebly.com/
this is a blog dedicated to toronto
@JAMES
Please Breakdown what areas you frequent?
Roosh specifically did not go to touristy or mainstream parts of the City.
People whom claim they kill in Toronto either is bangin’ fatties or is tossing a lot of cash around – everybody is working hard here.
My theory:
The greatest pua’s in the world rise from these harsh environmemts and circumstances..
I guess this environmemt created mystery. His game was shaped by toronto.. In fact, this was the only way to get top shelf women in toronto..
DC created roosh. He had to learn game to survive in the bars and clubs of DC.
Just like the french revolution created napoleon. Or the way that south side queens created 50 cent
DC girls are big fat cunts
this talk make my penis soft
what do you guys mean by ”feminine woman”?
They mean a woman who doesn’t want to wear the pants in the house also; a traditional woman as opposed the modern feminist women.
This is just like Denmark
@27 James
Yea white knights prefer feminized cities
Love the post. One thing, though. I go to Toronto pretty frequently and I’m not sure that I would agree with the girls being cuter than DC. I see women with some seriously messed up faces when I’m around Bay, Bloor, or Queen’s West. Like wicked witch of the west messed up. I’ve always thought that if I could magically make all women slender in both DC and TO, DC girls would be significantly better looking.
It may simply be that men are significantly taller and better looking in Toronto, and therefore have to date down much more competition. As well, we might have different tastes.
I was just in Hong Kong, and saw about 50 really really great looking girls in about 2 hours..I was amazed, especially because I don’t think the Chinese are that attractive, in general…
@andre
100% agree. The reason I bought into the game originally was that Mystery was from Toronto.
@Alex
Toronto is a whole other level. Girls who I wouldn’t look at twice in DC demand and get men 6’3″ with shoulders almost as wide. The only American city that might come close is Denver.
Toronto is a dump. I’ve been living there for 25 years and it’s just gotten worst and worst. The last couple years I’ve been saving up to get out for good. The city is irredeemable. The women here are fat, obnoxious, and think they are hot shit when in reality they are mostly 5s and under(i’m being generous). It is however possible to pick-up women in Toronto you just need to be extremely savvy (especially if you want 7s and up). The most important thing here is to neutralize her bitch-shield and every possible cockblock you face and believe me, you will face many a whole lot of fucking cockblocks in Toronto. Get to the bars early as you don’t have a lot of time. Women don’t go out alone in T.O. at night. Or better yet, go fucking tactical and scope out a group with talent. Wait for someone to break off the group (could be a man, doesn’t matter) and chat them up. Make as quick a connection as you can with them and follow them back to their group. Now don’t try to become involved in the group’s conversation but instead focus on whoever you were first talking to. Slowly involve yourself in the conversation. Ideally you want them to think you are a friend of the person you came back with. Slowly win over the group members closest to you and infect the rest of the group slowly with those feelings of inclusion. Then game as usual.
If you can neutralize the group your chances go up significantly.
Also note that most T.O. girls have boyfriends (not that it matters) and they will bring it up.
Weeknights are key to getting quality here but again you will be facing groups. The best game to run is day-game. You can find many pretty girls out and about in North York, Yonge & Eglinton, Downtown (Union Station to Bloor) as well as some lesser known areas like Eglinton & Bathurst. The best place though is probably UofT St. George campus from spring to fall. Tons of young girls around who are naturally isolating traveling from class to class or reading outside.
Most girls here are not worth a LTR but it is possible to keep a harem of 4-5 girls who are 7 up in rotation with proper game.
If you’re living here or visiting location is key and the city is not very centralized and you can easily loose bangs if you’re staying too far from the bar.
Numbers here are worth the paper they are written on.
It’s very much a hook-up culture, more akin to a college campus than a cultured city.
It is cold about 5 months out of the year and that is when women usually shack up into their LTRs and get fat.
Come when it’s hot (preferably spring as women seem to be in heat and will dump and cheat on their boyfriends with reckless abandon as if they were coming out of hibernation).
If you’d like I’ve just started a blog (today actually) on Toronto. It will be a mix of game, politics, funny stories, tourist info and reviews.
Long-time reader,
Satar B! aka The Real Tunisian
http://therealtunisian.blogspot.ca/
I cracked up when #16, AKA Gandalf said that the first woman is hot. Lol.
hahaha someone came to Toronto for a weeknd and didn’t get laid
where doesn’t it take work to date up?
Hey!
I don’t really care much for this article, but I really want to know where the pizza shown in #5 is from.
-Alzie
Wow you’re a sexist moron. You don’t deserve any type of woman.
Sacramento has some of these problems too. Especially Asian and Indian women. It’s not expensive though, yet obesity is eradicating Sacramento girls.
Bang on. I live and grew up in Tdot. All true.
I can’t even express how horrible this article is. Racist, misogynistic… Don’t even get me started.
They saw the racist, white bred, over-privileged American you are and ran.
In other words all the women you met had taste.
I never had any trouble in NY but that was back in the Looking For Mr Goodbar Days
No problem picking up good looking girls.
hahahaha @47 calling Roosh “white bred”.
After hearing it broken down like this I’m glad I never suffered the indignity of setting foot in Toronto…worst city for men in North America should put it high in the running for worst worldwide. It’s funny because when I was looking at a description of Toronto’s demographics awhile back I thought the diversity might make it a good spot, but then again runaway feminism can ruin just about anything.