At a time in my life when I was attacking homosexuals for their degenerate fornication lifestyle, I was participating in a degenerate fornication lifestyle. Outside of the difference that they had sex with men and I had sex with women, our lifestyles, moral outlook, and approach to intimacy were almost identical. I may not have been a homosexual by definition, but I was a homosexual in spirit.

Here are 15 ways that a heterosexual fornicator acts the same as a homosexual…

1. They seal the deal late at night under the influence of drugs or alcohol

Both the straight and gay man undergo the same ritual at night to get ready for sex. They congregate in dark rooms within a big city and warm themselves up by taking alcohol or other drugs. All potential sexual prospects for the night are plied with drink or pills to get them in a heightened state of lust, and then at the peak moment of attraction, an attempt is made to move to a private bedroom (or bathroom) to complete a sex act. If you’re an active fornicator, I can just about guarantee that you have never slept with a woman for the first time without the aid of a psychoactive substance.

2. They’re obsessed with holes

Both homo and hetero can’t get their minds off holes. Every day, they fantasize about how a mouth, vagina, or anus located somewhere in meat-space can give them an orgasm. These holes, they believe, will save them from a meaningless existence, but the pursuit of holes only makes life more meaningless, because after all, they’re just holes.

3. They’re obsessed with having big muscles

They only way to guarantee access to sex is to be attractive to those who have the desired hole, so both gay and straight have active gym memberships where they pay money to perform the manual labor of lifting things up and down. They do useless work to build huge muscles that act as a tailored suit in order to get a little more attention than a guy wearing an off-the-rack suit. The fornicators spend dozens of hours a month—if not each week—working out in the gym for muscle growth that only gets used inside the gym, but which aids their ability to score sex. It would be the same as building a car to run only on a dynometer but not on a real road.

4. They groom as much as women

To maximize attraction, everything about their look has to be perfect. Hair has to be trendy and well-coiffed. Clothing most be modern and fitted, but not formulaic. And then there’s the manscaping. Back hair and excessive chest hair must go. Beards and even eyebrows must be carefully sculpted. I hear that some gay men now wear makeup, which means that straight men may soon start doing it as well. If you don’t look in the mirror and think “I’m an ugly dude heh” then you may be a homosexual or acting like one.

5. They rack up dozens or hundreds of sexual partners

While the homosexual racks up innumerable partners with ease, don’t underestimate the ability of an average-looking heterosexual man to do the same through third-world travel, prostitution, and dumpster diving. I’ve known many straight men with hundreds of notches who believe they’re one sexual encounter away from meeting the perfect women when they’re lifestyle actually precludes that from ever happening. For both gay and straight, the weekend is nothing more than an anxious whirlwind of trying to secure a hole so that on Monday they can say they had a good weekend.

6. They’re obsessed with anal sex

I’ve never had anal sex in my life, because it’s disgusting, but most straight men I know have done it, and they seem proud of that fact. They have relayed the sordid details of their anal encounters and how it made them feel “powerful” or “dominant.” The only way they could have come to this conclusion is through the brain-rotting effects of pornography.

When I used to watch porn, it took quite some time to find a preferred video that had no anal, and many times I was tricked into watching a vaginal porn scene that suddenly changed to anal without warning. Anal porn is pushed onto everyone and unfortunately many straight men have fallen for the anal meme. Both gay and straight can’t wait to drill for mud-covered E. coli, Campylobacter, and other enteric bacteria.

7. They prize sex without protection

The fact that AIDS endures is proof that homosexuals still refuse to wear condoms. When you’re under the influence of alcohol or drugs, you tend to lose control of your will, and even if not, homosexuals love the “bareback” feeling. Heterosexual men are no different in preferring to do it “raw.” The ones who say they “always use condoms” are not being honest, because once you hear details of their sexual encounters, you’ll see that they use condoms only when a woman forces them to, or when one puts out severe warning signs like having a facial tattoo, but even then, many men hope they can fornicate without protection.

Both types of men will put their penis into the hole of a stranger without doing any type of vetting, exposing themselves to all sorts of diseases, and yet freak out if they’re dining in a restaurant and find a hair in their food.

8. They have sex with partners they have no feelings for

A notch is a notch, right? Fornicators look at other human beings as just a potential orgasm, as a way to take away the pain of a life that is out of communion with their Creator. Many times I would dance like a monkey for a girl I didn’t like, to entertain her and maintain her attraction, just so I can access her hole and have an orgasm. I have been a complete fake to innumerable women by exaggerating my strengths, omitting my weaknesses, and sometimes resorting to blatant lies about my career, background, or intentions. Through fornication, both gay and straight stop viewing human beings as human, but as vessels to a sex act that is barely more intimate than masturbation, and any means will justify that end.

9. They think sex makes them happy

All fornicators believe that sex is making them happy when it’s really doing the opposite. They focus on the bodily pleasure without looking at the immense emotional costs of malaise, depression, guilt, and anger, which seep into every area of their lives. The more sexual partners a man has, the angrier he is, but is too blind to see that that anger is caused by his own sexual behavior.

As soon as I ceased all fornication, most of my emotional problems went away. I was calmer, more patient, and less irritable. You may even be able to notice these changes in my most recent writing. That is undoubtedly helped by my daily prayer rule, but I also no longer have to deal with the heavy personal costs of seeking a continuous supply of casual sex partners.

10. They’ve sterilized the reproductive act

We already know that gays don’t care about reproduction, and must instead convert other people’s children into their doo-doo lifestyle, but the same goes for most straight fornicators. I’ve lost count how many men I’ve had to counsel through a pregnancy scare, and I’ve been through a couple myself. They feel like their whole life is about to fall apart because they may have accidentally impregnated a woman—the horror! How could a baby interrupt my carnal fun?! Oh it’s no big deal, you can just convince her to kill it, to destroy the inconvenience on your quest to surpass the conquests of even Casanova at his peak. Truth is if you’re not ready to be a parent, you shouldn’t be having sex. We may want to inform women of this fact as well.

11. They insist on living in big, expensive cities to improve their access to sex partners

Fornicators would never consider living in the mountains or on a cozy farm with chickens and goats, because then how would they meet enough people to gain a coveted “sex life”? The bigger the city, the better, because it gives them more selection of holes and also a higher chance of sleeping with someone who is “hot.”

The only acceptable life for a fornicator is one near other people who have the same disorder as him. If he happened to be living in a rural town, he may not put his penis inside something for a long time, and that would make life not worth living.

12. They don’t believe it’s immoral to fornicate

Both gay and straight have no moral qualms about using other people for sexual gain. They bought the Satanic conclusions of the sexual revolution and insist on ignoring their conscience, which is easy to do with the all the substances that must be taken to participate in casual sex, but the Gospel is written on our hearts, and the act of fornication will eventually catch up with them. If they continue to ignore their conscience, they will approach the point of such hard-heartedness that their souls may be forever lost.

13. They believe that fornication is the main source of their “confidence”

Confidence is a variant of pride, and pride is a deadly sin that separates you from God, so of course it’s one of the first things you develop as you become accomplished in your fornication. Confidence and self-love have become false gods in the West. If only I could have a really high opinion of myself that has no metaphysical basis, then I will really be happy! You are sick with delusion if you believe that your ability to access holes possessed by those who are as deceived as you somehow makes you more important, skilled, or accomplished. If God’s only begotten Son, with divine powers we cannot even begin to comprehend, was more humble than you, what does that really say about your “confidence”?

14. They didn’t read the instruction manual of the human body

A human mouth is not a place to put a penis. An anus is not a place to put a penis. Your mouth is not intended to slurp up a vagina or anus. Based on how fornicators use their bodies and those of others, many lifetime warranties have been declared null and void. When you’re addicted to gaining physical pleasure, you have to get creative in vile and disease-causing ways just for a little extra shot of pleasure.

15. They throw temper tantrums when they can’t secure sex

If a gay or straight loses their preferred sexual partner for the night, get ready for an epic temper tantrum. He will get obnoxiously drunk, start a scene, or simply cockblock his fornicator friends. The most “confident” and “masculine” of fornicators act like outright children when the hole they thought was secured for the night slips through their grasp. Not only do fornicators have no self-control over their body but also their emotions.

Conclusion

A society of homosexual fornicators, flaunting their behavior in public, can’t be achieved without first having a society of heterosexual fornicators. Both go hand in hand to divide and destroy both sexes while preventing the creation of families. More severely, fornication separates you from God and destroys your soul, one casual hook-up at a time. It pains me to think of how deceived I was to partake in this evil for so long.

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It is said that the fictitious character James bond was modelled off a gay man. A lot of Boomer men idolize his fornication with numerous beautiful women as the pinnacle of success or the "Alpha male" they aspire to be.

I believe it has been said on this forum before, that the highly popular Sex and the City program that titillated and captivated millions of Women around the world. Was nothing more than glorifying a feminist fantasy of post-wall women acting like degenerate homosexual cosmopolitan males.

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Perhaps sex as a whole is damaging and not solely the extreme of going from partner to partner. I can't help but conclude that it brings you away from God in a severe enough way that it damages the connection. It desensitizes you and this leads to over-sensuality, which then leads to pride and lust. Asceticism does have a practical reason, it's in many ways essential to being a good person.

With your spouse there probably should be no more than a day a week dedicated to intimacy.

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Perhaps sex as a whole is damaging and not solely the extreme of going from partner to partner...
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With your spouse there probably should be no more than a day a week dedicated to intimacy.

How about just only having sex if you're open to the possibility of having a child?

This means no contraception, no condoms, and no "pulling out," but you can have sex with your wife as often as you want.

I'm all for asceticism, but only for those who are called to religious vocations (such as priests and monks). For laypeople, procreative sex within marriage is healthy and Godly. It is actually the closest you can get to being like God because you are creating a child in your own image just like God created you in His image.

The "all sex is bad" attitude, taken to its logical conclusion, leads to "Christian" groups like the Shakers, who believed all sex was bad, forbade marriage and reproduction, and relied on recruiting to fill their ranks.

EDIT: I think that maybe it can be healthy for married couples to practice abstinence (by mutual consent) from time to time and use that time to get closer to God. I just think that it is wrong to claim that rightly ordered sex between a husband and wife is somehow wrong or degenerate.

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Roosh poking the hornet's nest.

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This question of the connection between heterosexual fornication and homosexual sex is indeed important. Many sexually liberated people of yesteryear, in the "moderate/conservative" category would deny there is a connection (so they can say to themselves that they have nothing to do with all those new degenerates). They see themselves as a "happy middle", a "reasonably balancedposition" between "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" and the most extreme LGBT demands.

On a superficial level, this opinion is plausible. But then, so is the opposite LGBT call for equality in vices, "if heteros can indulge in their vices then why can't we". Recent history shows which side eventually gains the upper hand.

Theoretically, one could imagine a parallel universe where a gay-marriage movement would be born inside a traditional society with family values. But in that scenario, the gays would spend a lot more effort pretending that they are family-oriented.

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I came to similar conclusions, but it's weird how it all makes sense now.
Back when fornicating it was almost as if being possessed from seeing the big picture.

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It's quite telling that the two most referenced movies of the manosphere (at least from what I've seen) are The Matrix and Fight Club. There is a sort of pride in having the gnosis of the red pill. But I think another part of the appeal was the dual identity of this unbeatable super chick slayer online and the broken man offline. The schizophrenia that comes with maintaining such an odd dual identity would lead to drunkenness and rage, as shown in points 1 and 15. In the past people would go to Confession to properly deal with the wounds of sin and maintain a whole identity, but we're so atomized these days it's easy to wallow in that spirit of pity. 1 Peter 5:8-9 gives us a great counterpoint against drunkenness:

8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 9 Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world.

And then there's Fight Club, which is a metaphor for underground sodomy. Although Tyler Durden has that often quoted insight about how materialism is a dead end, the movie is rife with somatic narcissism. The exhilaration of the fight is similar to the exhilaration of transient sex. I mention narcissism because Apostle Paul in Romans 1:21 mentions vanity in the heart before going off about the fruits of said debasement, which includes degeneration of sexuality

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

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The old version of RVF was full of degenerates and sociopaths, and it's inspiring to see how Roosh has turned away from that. That said, the "game" advice on the old forum was useful in the sense that it helped me understand women's nature as how to build attraction in them. To me game is a lot like a gun, in the sense that it's not inherently good or bad, it just depends how you use it.

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If a gay or straight loses their preferred sexual partner for the night, get ready for an epic temper tantrum. He will get obnoxiously drunk, start a scene, or simply cockblock his fornicator friends. The most “confident” and “masculine” of fornicators act like outright children when the hole they thought was secured for the night slips through their grasp. Not only do fornicators have no self-control over their body but also their emotions.

I have noticed this with some Kiwi guys, it really is quite bizarre. Not with losing a specific sexual partner but with not being able to get them in the first place(thirst). Of course, it doesn't occur to them to learn how to get girls.

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Perhaps sex as a whole is damaging and not solely the extreme of going from partner to partner. I can't help but conclude that it brings you away from God in a severe enough way that it damages the connection. It desensitizes you and this leads to over-sensuality, which then leads to pride and lust. Asceticism does have a practical reason, it's in many ways essential to being a good person.

With your spouse there probably should be no more than a day a week dedicated to intimacy.

1 Timothy 4:1-5

1Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, 2influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron.

3They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Marriage and Sexuality with its attendant passion is Good(Song of Solomon, Proverbs 5:19) where a Man is to be satisfied with His Wife's intoxicating love, parts of their body and so forth of which is a locked garden(Song of Solomon 4:12) for the exclusive use of the Man.

Its just like fire in the fireplace which gives warmth and light. You can't call fire inherently evil. Only that its dangerous and outside its proper bounds its destructive.

But don't call good evil because that's just as sinful as calling evil good (Isaiah 5:20) of which God said "Woe to those".

It is to be received with thanksgiving as it is a creation of God. And because such has been sanctified by the Marriage Bed which is Pure and Undefiled.(Hebrew 13:4)

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How about just only having sex if you're open to the possibility of having a child?

This means no contraception, no condoms, and no "pulling out," but you can have sex with your wife as often as you want.

I'm all for asceticism, but only for those who are called to religious vocations (such as priests and monks). For laypeople, procreative sex within marriage is healthy and Godly. It is actually the closest you can get to being like God because you are creating a child in your own image just like God created you in His image.

The "all sex is bad" attitude, taken to its logical conclusion, leads to "Christian" groups like the Shakers, who believed all sex was bad, forbade marriage and reproduction, and relied on recruiting to fill their ranks.

EDIT: I think that maybe it can be healthy for married couples to practice abstinence (by mutual consent) from time to time and use that time to get closer to God. I just think that it is wrong to claim that rightly ordered sex between a husband and wife is somehow wrong or degenerate.

Not only does "all sex is bad" lead to such a conclusion. But it reinforces promiscuity also. Turning off the tap inside marriage induces people to seek it outside marriage.

Akin to banning fire or making fire extremely weak in the fire place not fit to warm or give light to the person utilizing it. And tempting him with blazing bonfires that give ample light and heat but which is in danger of burning his own house down.

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Not only does "all sex is bad" lead to such a conclusion. But it reinforces promiscuity also. Turning off the tap inside marriage induces people to seek it outside marriage.

Akin to banning fire or making fire extremely weak in the fire place not fit to warm or give light to the person utilizing it. And tempting him with blazing bonfires that give ample light and heat but which is in danger of burning his own house down.

Once a week seems to be moderate and appropriate. It's not that sex is bad but all pleasures of the flesh; gratification is a path to sin.

You'll also enjoy your wife a lot longer if you don't overindulge, and will value her for all she does and not just her body. Being free from lust will keep your mind sharp and your decisions sound.

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Once a week seems to be moderate and appropriate. It's not that sex is bad but all pleasures of the flesh; gratification is a path to sin.

You'll also enjoy your wife a lot longer if you don't overindulge, and will value her for all she does and not just her body. Being free from lust will keep your mind sharp and your decisions sound.

If you are only having sex with your wife and you're not contracepting, then it's not lust.

Any knowledgeable Christians, please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

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Theology of the Body mainly says that lust is a grasping, and love is a giving. So if you are open to life and see your wife as a person and not a thing to be used, you are not lusting.

Lust is a weak, poor, whimpering, whispering thing when compared with that richness and energy of desire which will arise when lust has been killed.
-C.S. Lewis

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Once a week seems to be moderate and appropriate. It's not that sex is bad but all pleasures of the flesh; gratification is a path to sin.

You'll also enjoy your wife a lot longer if you don't overindulge, and will value her for all she does and not just her body. Being free from lust will keep your mind sharp and your decisions sound.

(1 Corinthians 7:3-5) states that what ever either Husband or Wife wants. The other must give. Aside from medical issues, prayer and fasting. Whatever is agreed upon is fine.

If sexual gratification is a path to sin in wedlock show me scripture or else again you are calling good evil by that logic and in sin. Otherwise its Manicheanism a heresy that has no end in destroying the Church.

Even when St Augustine gave up Manicheanism officially he still remained Manichean in regards to sexual passion. Contrary to Scripture as I have shown above.

A blazing fire is healthy in the fireplace. Not a path to destruction.

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1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

You absolutely don't do as your wife says, the man makes the rules. If you depend on her body she then has power over you and women are very easily tempted into sin. One must control any 'blazing fire' and remain in charge.

This is what fulfilling marital duty means as 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 states.

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So this is the result of our great leader's spiritual transformation? Pointless clickbait articles that trade in salacious details about sex rituals? My god Roosh you are a loser.

Roosh poking the hornet's nest.

And you are a lickspittle and a bootlicker. How much is Roosh paying you to write here? I hope he's paying you something, or else your case is even more pathetic than I imagined.

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1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

You absolutely don't do as your wife says, the man makes the rules. If you depend on her body she then has power over you and women are very easily tempted into sin. One must control any 'blazing fire' and remain in charge.

If your wife asks you to have sex with her and she is not asking you to practice contraception, then she is not asking you to sin.

God said husbands and wives should give themselves to each other and become one. When you have sex with your wife, you are not doing as she says, but as God says.

If your wife asks you to go to work and provide for your family, is your response going to be "No. I will not allow my wife to boss me around."?

Additionally, it is misleading to say "women are very easily tempted into sin" because this implies they are more easily tempted than men, when in reality both men and women are equally tempted, just in different ways.

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Additionally, it is misleading to say "women are very easily tempted into sin" because this implies they are more easily tempted than men, when in reality both men and women are equally tempted, just in different ways.

The man has to lead the relationship all the way, don't fall for the equality agenda.

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↑ OK, maybe "equally" was not the best word to use (because of the connotations of leftist egalitarianism), but I am obviously not advocating for literal equality between men and women.

I am saying that both men and women are tempted into sin to the same degree, albeit in different ways.

Men are not "better" or "more holy" than women, nor vice-versa. That is what I mean by "equally tempted."

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