As I inch closer to forty, I look across the dating landscape and notice that many other men are in the same boat as me. Either they did not have a lifestyle that was conducive to marriage or they rejected the institution outright. While these bachelors may have personality traits which prevent them from getting married, I’ve noticed three structural patterns that repeatedly come up in men who don’t get married before 35.

1. You are atomized

How deep is your social network? If it only comprises a few males, you do not have the social connections that are necessary to finding a wife within a timely manner.

While I do not have strong friendships with females outside of my family, and recommend you not use friendship as a sexual strategy, there is value in having female friends if you want to meet other females without having to resort to game-intensive cold approaching, a method that is more effective at obtaining casual sex than long-term relationships. The type of male who is willing to sacrifice large amounts of time and energy into having friendships with females has a higher chance of being socially introduced to his future wife than one who isn’t.

Due to my job as a writer, I have met hundreds of men around the world who hold me in high esteem, but only a handful have introduced me to a female. This isn’t because they are keeping their women deliberately away from me (I think), but if you have to use game in a cold-approach manner like most of my readers do, you are far less likely to know other attractive females as friends. There are also those men who are such loners that they have no friends at all.

2. You are rootless

How far are you currently from your birthplace? How often have you moved since then? The more mobile you are, the more likely you have wanderlust or value novelty, qualities that are opposed to marriage.

Nowadays it’s too easy to succumb to the siren song of improving your situation by relocating to a vibrant city or traveling to an exotic land. Everyone is sharing their exciting urban lifestyle online, making it impossible for you to stay in the “boring” town or village you were raised in, which paradoxically is exactly what you need to do if you want to find a wife before 35.

There are also men like myself who are dissatisfied with the local women and spend a decade or more gallivanting around the world for prime poosy, conquering many women’s bodies but perhaps not their hearts. The more cities a man has lived in, and the more countries he has been to, the less likely he will find a wife, even if he has met a hundred-times more women than a man who stayed in his village.

3. You are born to immigrant parents

Are your parents born in a different country than you? Are you not sure which ethnicity to identify with? Your dating habits will then be one of confusion, and you may find it difficult to create a loving bond that leads to marriage.

Most of my friends in Washington, D.C. are born to immigrant parents. None of them are currently married. All of us have dated many women of different ethnic backgrounds, including some from our parents’ country of origin, but nothing worked.

When you’re the first-generation born in a foreign country, you become stuck in a purgatory of the soil. Which habits from your parents’ old world should you bring into the new? How will you reconcile a life that is far easier than that of your parents, and one that doesn’t need their traditional values? How do you handle the prospect of having children with someone of an entirely different race than you? Immigration is often promoted as some sort of human right, but rarely spoken is the toll on the individual who hasn’t fully assimilated to his birth nation.

Another disadvantage of being spawned from immigrants is that you’re more likely to be atomized and rootless, serving up a triple whammy of lifelong bachelorhood, travel, and seeking.

Conclusion

The above list also applies to women. While many—if not most—are single because of their lifestyle choices, there are plenty of women with low notch counts who just can’t seem to connect with a decent man. In the end, if a man or woman has to ask themselves how they can find a spouse, they strongly possess at least one of the factors above, if not all three like in the case of myself.

I won’t excuse the choices I’ve made in life by saying everything is out of my hands, because it surely isn’t, but we can’t deny how a modern, mobile, and independent Western lifestyle harms someone’s ability to get married before 35. If you’re past 35 and not yet married, it could simply be a sign that it’s not meant to be, all because of the era you were happened to be born in.

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WomenAreAwesomeMenArePigs
WomenAreAwesomeMenArePigs
2 years ago

Man. This post has a hint of sadness.

My brother got married for the first time last week at the age of 46. Though he had none of these things. He was actually a player until about two yeara ago.

Unfortunately his wife is approaching 40, and even though she wants kids, the ship may have sailed.

Da Mac
Da Mac
2 years ago

I think Roosh’ problem is that he put himself into a corner a couple years ago when he wrote for a bout a year or so with those very specific, public, and (often) even quantifiable demands of any future wife of his.

This is similar to the stance made by desirable younger (feminist) women in their 20’s demanding a/the perfect man (for them).

Both Roosh and the women are being unrealistic and setting themselves up for unhappiness in the long run if they refuse to budge.

Be happy (please) and realize that no one is perfect, including, certainly, yourselves!

Leonard Levine
Leonard Levine
2 years ago
Reply to  Da Mac

I dont think its possible to be happy with a slut wife. So makes total sense to require virginity of your future wife. This is the least one can ask.

Kirk
Kirk
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

If one was/is a playa and slept with 200 women why do you think one deserve a virgin wife? The concept is hilarious. You should be happy with a slut. You’ll get bored with your virgin wife and want to stray with other sluts. Or better yet as I never stood why celebs and rock stars do this since it’s a revolving door with most; DONT GET MARRIED. Problem solved

MCGOO
MCGOO
2 years ago
Reply to  Kirk

Two hundred pussies or two million pussies make no difference. There’s no such thing as a man whore. Only a woman whore. That’s because men aren’t women and women aren’t men. The desexing neutering propaganda aims to desex our species by neutralizing the male. We are a patriarchal species. We are the great HOMOSAPIENUS ERECTUS. HAIL THE GREAT MAN. We are the species of MAN!! We wouldn’t go to other worlds and meet Ork’s and say “Greetings. We are WOMAN from Earth”.Get out of here. We’d say “We are MAN from EARTH”. We are a patriarchal species called ‘MAN’ and have always been so.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  MCGOO

You are delusional.

Leonard Levine
Leonard Levine
2 years ago
Reply to  Kirk

Because women and men are not the same. Men cannot be sluts. And this is not “patriarchy” speaking, it is according to women and their choices.

The reason men, biologically speaking want a virgin and non-slutty wife is because before DNA tests, her purity was your only assurance of her kid being yours.

I didn’t say “get married” btw, but if one ever wants to for some reason, then virginity is not too much to ask (which “Da Mac” said).

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

“Because women and men are not the same. Men cannot be sluts.”

Right. Men are horn dogs. And apparently they lack the IQ and internal mechanisms to curb their rutting instincts.

Veni Vidi Vici
Veni Vidi Vici
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Don’t confuse an instinctive drive with an emotional need.

meistergedanken
meistergedanken
2 years ago
Reply to  Kirk

Someone still doesn’t understand that men are very different from women…

vv
vv
2 years ago
Reply to  Kirk

“You’ll get bored with your virgin wife and want to stray with other sluts.”

No you won’t.

I know.

Veni Vidi Vici
Veni Vidi Vici
2 years ago
Reply to  vv

Agreed this is on example where men differ from women and why cheating is not equal amonst the sexes.
When they both finally settle down: Men usually stay in a marriage even if he cheats or has a younger woman on the side. Most women will despise the man beta provider cuck they were forced to settle with.

Da Mac
Da Mac
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

Some literacy way back when would have uncovered that this was just one of many demands.

Toksik
Toksik
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

It’s impossible

diana
diana
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

a woman who has never had sex will be very bad in bed because she doesnt like sex.

kelley
kelley
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

There’s a few virgins left in junior high, but you’ll probably get arrested trying to date one of them

Vic Wilson
Vic Wilson
2 years ago
Reply to  Da Mac

Roosh is fine. He can find a nive young girl anytime he likes…..EE.

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago
Reply to  Da Mac

I tend to agree.

Is part of the solution practicing ‘acceptance’ of the nature of LTRs (sometimes dull, always wanting something more), much in the same way we jest about women and their unrealistic Disney fantasies?

Da Mac
Da Mac
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

Sure, it’s just acknowledging human nature at the start of the relationship, that nobody is perfect (as depicted in film or on rooshv. com).

Vic Wilson
Vic Wilson
2 years ago

Ur brother has to be a beta. Marries and then wants children and marries a 40 yr old woman.

Insane.

DerWeltenbummler!
DerWeltenbummler!
2 years ago
Reply to  Vic Wilson

This usually happens when a former Player thinks he has found “The One” (Trademark) who is clearly “Different Than The Rest” (Trademark) and starts getting Oneitis.

Leonard Levine
Leonard Levine
2 years ago

Then he isn’t a player.

DerWeltenbummler!
DerWeltenbummler!
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

Don’t be fooled. Players can get Oneitis, too!

Toksik
Toksik
2 years ago

Neil Strauss comes to mind

kelley
kelley
2 years ago
Reply to  Toksik

Exactly…….and some of these dumbfucks wouldn’t know what to do with a quality woman if they had one

Infernoz
Infernoz
2 years ago

“The One”, “Soul Mate” are Gynocentrism, Romantic Love scarcity deceptions; only merit qualifiers like young age, no-make-up beauty (good genes, health, fertility), compatibility, and temperament matter.

It sounds like the former supposed ‘player’ is a fake, especially when he makes do with a barren crone.

Marriage only makes sense for making and raising children with a fertile young women; there is little of no benefit to a man otherwise, especially given the risk of divorce pillage or slavery.

MCGOO
MCGOO
2 years ago

@WomenAreAwesome – If your brother packs stud caliber spunk, like if he’s a Nobel rocket scientist or something, then he should rack up a fresher breeder woman. It looks like show dogs for them otherwise. Maybe he’s tired and just wants a reliable old crusty bun to lay his dog on those days when the Amazon T pills kick in. You know you’re getting old when you can feel your bodily squeaks turning into grinds or when you get oneitis for a wallered out post waller. You know you’re getting old when you no longer have the skeet feet to MOVE and close in on a 17yo hottie and at least chat her. When you lay like an old dog and let her pass by “bow-woooow-ouch! Muh bow wow gut is aching again.” then you know your balls are no longer communicating to your brain and you’re losing the sense to smell fresh breeder eggs when they pass right by your nose. Luckily I can still SMELL a quality young breeder. Something in my brain says “Do something” “Open her quick before the bus comes or the light changes or before she finishes pumping gas. Any time anywhere – open her. Like baseball fast pitch fast. Before she’s gone. Otherwise what have you wasted? A second or two? Really? Just high five her and say “nice sweater”. Do anything. You never want to give up on the real game and lose your smell for that young tart noob. Use it or lose it. Keep sniffing out for that young noob breeder egg smell and your nads and brain will do the rest naturally. No man is too old to start a family and bust out a crew with a quality ripe 17yo. She’s no baggage. All wings.

Lawsen
Lawsen
2 years ago

“Unfortunately his wife is approaching 40, and even though she wants kids, the ship may have sailed’

And at that age a woman is, there is a high risk of birth defects.

I would never even think about marriage to any female over 30. If your brother is a player one has to wonder why he would want to saddle up – most players stay single their whole lives because through their experience they learn about women’s true nature.

Indeed, that aged spinsters who have been chewed up and barfed out by feminism are an easy catch – the snouts and entrails of pussy who were much prettier in their early twenties, with the attitude that they were too cool for the universe, playing all kinds of games, enjoying playing nice guys for suckers. My philosophy is that if the kitten didn’t want me, then I don’t want the cat. Let these old hags grow old with a vibrator.

Cavallo
Cavallo
2 years ago

Marriage is a dangerous game. The odds are always on the house, and you’re likely to lose your money, credit, sanity and soul at the end of it. Know the odds and the game before you decide to sit down at that crazy table.

Scott Jenner
Scott Jenner
2 years ago
Reply to  Cavallo

exactly

Leonard Levine
Leonard Levine
2 years ago
Reply to  Cavallo

Not if you live and get married overseas. You can just pack up and leave anytime. It’s not like your ex-wife or her government is ever going to find you.

Cavallo
Cavallo
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard Levine

It might be difficult to orchestrate the liquidation of wealth, especially if she is the one that surprises you with the divorce. Then again, some places outside of western society make it harder to divorce on a whim.

The War At Home
The War At Home
2 years ago
Reply to  Cavallo

You forgot to add the danger of losing your freedom. In South Carolina jails 1 of 6 detainees are there because of child support issues.

Cavallo
Cavallo
2 years ago

I just took a gander at a site about filing for modifications when you become unemployed involving child support. There are some real horror stories in the comments about men who lose not only all their wealth, but also their freedom when jailed becasue they simply could not find work.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago

Dead beat dads should be in jail.

Toksik
Toksik
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

You’re either clueless or a troll.

The War At Home
The War At Home
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Many aren’t dead beats. They’re dead broke; because the judge set their child support obligations higher than their ability to pay them, and much higher than the cost of raising a child.

Scott Jenner
Scott Jenner
2 years ago

I fit these areas and have no desire to get married or have kids. Women in the USA are just too bitter or fat for my taste.

Pavouk Pavucina
Pavouk Pavucina
2 years ago

Iam 30 living in Prague. I working out 4 times a week for 10 years, I have agood physique, have a decent salary in IT, working on side hustle but it still not enough for all the chicks here…they want to rather end up with neck tattoed guy with 2004 BMW car without a decent job..

It is almost not possible to have a loyal girl these days for more than a couple of months or a year ..2018 is full of possibilites for girls: everyday instagram DMs from stranger steroid guys, Tinder male thirst messages etc. I fucked a girl two weeks ago and while I had sex with her I saw her mobile vibrating with a new and new tinder messages notifications coming in..lol

While Iam getting older I thinking about marriage less and less not because that I dont want to be a husband but it is not worth the risk anymore..

lucian lukas
lucian lukas
2 years ago

Iam 30 living in Prague. I working out 4 times a week for 10 years, I have a good physique, have a decent salary in IT, working on side hustle but it still not enough for most of the chicks…they want to rather end up with neck tattoed guy with 2004 BMW car without a decent job..

It is almost not possible to have a loyal girl these days for more than a couple of months or a year ..2018 is full of possibilites for girls: everyday instagram DMs from stranger guys, Tinder male thirst messages etc. ( I fucked a girl two weeks ago and while I had sex with her I saw her mobile phone on the night table vibrating with a new and new tinder messages notifications coming in..lol)

While Iam getting older I thinking about marriage less and less not because that I dont want to be a husband but it is not worth the risk anymore..

Peter
Peter
2 years ago
Reply to  lucian lukas

Most women that have average or above intelligence have a stable job, often low stress women’s jobs so they only want anti social bad boys as they don’t need a provider.

Unless you want aging cashiers or you become a high flying CEO fuhgetaboudit. You ain’t enough for them brah, don’t even bother to lower yourself to PUA clown shennanigans. They can see you aren’t a thug from miles away.

David
David
2 years ago
Reply to  lucian lukas

Im in a similar place but 35. I kinda had to become a bad boy, plus travel to latin america. In the end, i know a lot of miserable married men. Ive also banged a couple happily married women lol. So its the james bond life for us I guess.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  David

Didn’t you say you grew up in a Christian household? And yet you admit having sex outside of marriage -and- having sex with women already hitched. Exactly why guys like yourself are part of the problem.

“So its the james bond life for us I guess.”

Assuming that you are telling the truth.

Lawsen
Lawsen
2 years ago
Reply to  lucian lukas

“While Iam getting older I thinking about marriage less and less not because that I dont want to be a husband”

I hear you. The status of ‘husband’ today had been reduced to “useful idiot”, both in the USA and in europe. I was in Prague and dated a girl in the CZ and she decided to move on, that’s fine by me. Recently she told me she got married, and has taken a job in the USA, but her “useful idiot” is living in Czech republic. I’m sure he has no idea that she is cheating on him behind his back.

hankerow
hankerow
2 years ago

1-state laws…divorce rape courts.
2-too many options for men and women…too many options for women for the most part… Instagram…tinder…etc…
3-social engineering that benefits from women being fully vested in the workforce and corporate life so having a family is number 4 or 5 on her priority scale…her job…her puppy…herself (clothes…products…trips…gadits… restaurant…)…her friends (Instagram…tinder…)…
Unless you want to have kids marriage doesn’t make sense in the western culture or anti-patriarcal culture

The War At Home
The War At Home
2 years ago

Why get married? Seriously what does a man gain by getting married in the west?

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago

Really only to have kids.

You get to have a stable (ish) long lasting (sort of) relationship with a women and you’re children grow up to be normal.

MordechaiJeffersonCarver
MordechaiJeffersonCarver
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

No need to get married for that. And stay away from common law marriage states.

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago

Technically, yes – you are right.

In reality, however, I haven’t found that hot traditional virgin we are all want to have kids with who won’t demand to be married.

Let me know if you know someone who has, because I’m 40, have been a PUA since The Game came out and have never seen it.

Toksik
Toksik
2 years ago

Just write the probate court every month stating you’re not married via certified mail.

The War At Home
The War At Home
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

But getting married doesn’t ensure a woman will stay or that the relationship will be stable. She can decide to divorce rape you and walk away at any time for any reason.

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago

Agreed, and I don’t think you’ll hear anyone trying to say otherwise on here…

David
David
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

My sisters are manhating feminists. One cheated on her husband, became an alcoholic, and now has an std. the other is covered in goofy tattoos and is a lesbo i think. Good christian home. We were all normal until mid twenties. Nothing is guaranteed

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago
Reply to  David

Agreed, all one can do is stack the deck in our favour.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  David

If it was a good Christian home, you would be married by now!

And it’s more than likely that your sisters are quite normal, and you the oddball.

web
web
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

Well marriage is formaly just a (economical) framework for rising kids.

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago
Reply to  web

I’d add ‘and developmental/emotionally supportive for the kids’. The stats of single parent children paint a clear picture.

Splooge
Splooge
2 years ago

Divorce in all countries hurt men financially….more so if ur a foreigner. Theyll always side with the local. Thailand is a good example

The War At Home
The War At Home
2 years ago
Reply to  Splooge

Depends on the circumstances. More traditional countries look unfavorably on adultery and penalize the party most at fault for the marriage failing. Worst case scenario you can simply cash out, leave the foreign country, and move back to America. Trying to get a foreign ruling enforced in American courts is prohibitively expensive and complicated. Especially if you don’t speak English.

Anonymous Disqus Account
Anonymous Disqus Account
2 years ago

“It is interesting to note that the “sexual revolution” was sometimes portrayed as a communal utopia, whereas in fact it was simply another stage in the historical rise of individualism. As the lovely word “household” suggests, the couple and the family would be the last bastion of primitive communism in liberal society. The sexual revolution was to destroy these intermediary communities, the last to separate the individual from the market. The destruction continues to this day.”
― Michel Houellebecq, The Elementary Particles

Hubert Cumberdale
Hubert Cumberdale
2 years ago

There’s also plenty of women who don’t take the concept of marriage seriously until they are like 32 or 33 themselves now. At which point, marriageable men of similar age or up to five years older (with decent personalities and financial resources) are no longer paying attention to them for anything more than a pump-n-dump.

Western women do bring this male marriage drought upon themselves. We value youth, beauty, and prime fertility as key marriage qualities while they value resources and “cultural fitness” to her personality standards.

They can theoretically get resources and compatibility from men at any age range from a 20-year-old trust fund baby to a dying 80-year-old investment billionaire. But it’s only women’s late teens and 20s where we can get what we truly want from them.

Frederic Gilbert
Frederic Gilbert
2 years ago

But is marriage really something to pursue anyway? Is lifetime relationship a viable option (I read somewhere — here? — that it became a norm when life expectancy was around 30-40 years, but a 70-80 years life expectancy changes the nature of the deal…).

I am not married, I am almost 50, I comply with items 1 and 2. But nevertheless I got 3 long term relationships in my life (10 years, 9 years, 5 years). At some point these relationships did not make sense anymore and they ended, but they were satisfying and fulfilling, I was happy to live them, and they were consistent with who I was at that time.

So I would not worry about (lifetime) marriage. I prefer to meet a woman who I can have an intellectually, emotionally and sexually fulfilling relationship with, even if it is likely “only” for a few years.
The only thing is that you cannot order such a woman just like pizza. You have to live your life and someday a good (and I don’t say *the* good) candidate will cross your path. Waiting for that now 🙂

TyskKille
TyskKille
2 years ago

Roosh, can you provide some information m – either in one of your future videos or in the form of an article – about dealing with information overload. I often feel like I cannot handle all the information out there. You, on the other hand, always seem calm and organised.

Roosh
2 years ago
Reply to  TyskKille

Tip 1: I only leave my smartphone on for 10-12 hours a day. Right now it’s around 4pm and my phone is still off.

vv
vv
2 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Tip 2: I traded my smartphone for a flip phone. I waste enough time on my laptop. Why do I need to carry a computer with me?

But I don’t have a Twitter following, and I use Facebook about once a year, so a laptop is all I need.

badabimbadabum
badabimbadabum
2 years ago

Another slut right? Here comes the depression posts.

Where did you get this one? Street game. For fuck sake…

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago

Great article. I’ve got the triple whammy.

I was in a relationship with a wife quality LTR, but felt ‘bored’ in the relationship, probably because I’m used to moving around so often – every 1-2 years I’d have a new job, and new country and/or a new relationship.

Is the solution to this one to see it for the hamster wheel that it is?

Leonard Levine
Leonard Levine
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

Just make her pregnant and leave when you get bored of her. In that way, you can have multiple children all over the world.

Roosh
2 years ago
Reply to  Disqusser

I don’t think you can solve something that is deeply tied to your existence.

Disqusser
Disqusser
2 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Maybe ‘solve’ wasn’t the right word. I should use the term ‘accept’.

For me (and I’m in a similar situation as you Roosh, 40 year old ex-PUA wanting to start a family), the way I see it is I need to accept this (the fact I’ll get bored / want out of the relationship a few years in) or I’ll never have children.

I wonder if it’s possible to satisfy this need for ‘new-ness’ and excitement in other ways (travel, cheating, OLTRs, other pursuits, etc).

I’m hoping there is another answer to this, but I can’t see one at the moment.

positron1
positron1
2 years ago

Most guys shouldn’t even think about getting married before 40. Do the single guy things you want to do when you’re young: travel, bag some hootchie mamas, learn some languages, establish a career. Then after 40 if you want kids and good wife material crosses your path, consider marriage and starting a family.

This post from Roosh I linked below is good advice on what to look for in a wife:

http://www.rooshv.com/7-things-i-require-in-the-future-mother-of-my-child

I don’t put as much stock in her skin color being similar to mine, and if you’re middle-age I’d say make sure she’s at least 10 years younger than you. Virgin is ideal, but I’d say consider a girl with a low notch count.

Ro
Ro
2 years ago

This post really hurt! Had to step back and reflect on it a bit.

Approaching 30 and I’d really love to have a family. I’m an immigrant. Have a friend circle that are mainly males that I live, work and socialise with. Have no family.

I’ve tried hard to source a quality wife for many years now and have failed. Perhaps if I was ignorant the manosphere I would have settled with the first girl I met.

I mainly read anti-feminist material just so that I can convince myself that I don’t need a wife and family. But the longing is there.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Ro

Ya just really read all that stuff over and over, ruminate over what some white bitch said on Twitter about feminism, and grind a bitter chode mentality into your brain permanently. That’s going to help things.

meistergedanken
meistergedanken
2 years ago
Reply to  Ro

This post is also going to hurt: you should go back.
Return to the land of your birth. It’ll be better for you, better for your family, better for everyone. Immigration is a false promise of the globohomo world order.

Rohan Pereira
Rohan Pereira
2 years ago

I don’t belong to any country.

I don’t believe in patriotism. Why should I claim a birthright stake in the resources of any country.

I immigrated for better economic opportunities.

desideropacem
desideropacem
2 years ago

Very insightful and same here I must say.

jayteeniftb
jayteeniftb
2 years ago

Because women will always jump at spending more ‘quality’ time with an even better alpha. And with more than a billion options (that also fluctuate position due to popularity), the odds of ‘exclusivity’ have little to no chance.
Eventually devalued women do settle for ‘marriage’, so that they can abuse some beta and soothe their miserable existence.
Marriage, in its traditional form, was a concept borne out of brotherhood (unworthy women weren’t indulged). No such rules in a free-for-all culture.

Chuoyao Zhang
Chuoyao Zhang
2 years ago

Marriage is too risky in big cities. Female hypergamy is rampant, even in Asia (rich part of asia). Marrying a girl doesn’t mean you have “locked her in”. Basically you commit your hard earned resource to merely “reduce” the chance of your girl cheating and dumping you. And believe me, there will always be a more alpha guy than you as far as she is concerned. As a result, men set their bar for marriage wayyy higher than their bar for unmarital relationship. Men who have resource or game only decide to marry when the deal on the table is sweet enough (young hotties not yet washed by sexual market)

Splooge
Splooge
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuoyao Zhang

This its so universal. ..
We always look at grass is greener on other side. Lile say an atrange marriage culture such as indian n muslim culture is no guarantee.
Girl could be a secret thot. Big dowry demand espiceally sausagefest demographics. Het used for green card. Get the laws used against u be it new .Femimist laws in ondia n the west or anti foreign .Attitude im middle east.

Nothing is guaranteed. ..never get comfortable in ur relationship.
Think the real reason for divorce rates by country is how men drop the ball then oppose to the law since hypergy hyperhypergamy will always find a way to win..

David
David
2 years ago

Never wanted to be married. I had occasional moments of weakness, but that was usually after a really good bj. Im just concerned about what ill do when my dick stops working

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  David

Best that you remain single. Let the true alpha males marry, sire offspring, and build civilization.

Splooge
Splooge
2 years ago

Well cant totally agree with the third point since many here do marry….but it totally is a caught between two worlds with the traf n western values.

Lawsen
Lawsen
2 years ago

“. If you’re past 35 and not yet married, it could simply be a sign that it’s not meant to be, all because of the era you were happened to be born in.”

Your concluding text pretty much sums up the current state of affairs.

All my friends I went to high school with are now divorced. Yes they have kids who are now grown up, but still seems like a high price to pay.

I even had an ex-gf I went out with in high school track me down – she’s long past her prime. She and I dated in high school briefly until she next-ed me, whatever. So she tracked me down recently and normally I would not bother but instead I briefly flaunted my great life I’m having because I travel a lot to many places on the globe. I stopped communique with her after that.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Lawsen

I don’t agree with his pessimism about not having a large social circle with lots of women, though. I know a lot of dudes who invested enormous time into friendships with women they weren’t banging what did it ever get them? Whole lotta nothing for the most part from where I’m sitting.

Who are these women that take enormous effort to reciprocate the favor and introduce you to your perfect future bride? Cuz I’ve sure as fuck never met ’em.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt

“I know a lot of dudes who invested enormous time into friendships with women they weren’t banging what did it ever get them? Whole lotta nothing for the most part from where I’m sitting.”

Actually, those friendships turned into a vast social circle where poon, investment opportunities, and prime sports seats were procured. Seriously, having a harem of hot single/married women as friends opens up doors, son.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

a “harem” of married women, eh

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt

“a “harem” of married women, eh.”

Did I stutter?

Of course, you do realize that your wife has already been gamed numerous times. You just don’t know about it.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Oh shit was it the UPS man? I bet it was that’s why the trucks are so big. Some kind of mobile housewife-bang pad. Clever bastards.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt

I thought histrionics was exclusively a female thang. Looks like you proved otherwise.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Gosh. You’re not really any fun at all.

splooge
splooge
2 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EmZiThpt1Q
lol tumblrina goes alt right nut….least her son will get redpilled when his friends eventually learn the language an vice versa

plus fuck german, they know English now

Matt
Matt
2 years ago

Problem is I think once you become game-aware a kind of alienation sets in that makes it harder to maintain friendships with most men and a lot of American men in particular. They’re constantly fucking stuff up and doing dumb things in relationships and ending up unhappy, getting divorced, money probs, blowing themselves out on dates and bitching about chicks. I just can’t bring myself to listen to another poor-me story about an American woman that “got away” or drama at work.

And very few times will you ever be rewarded for pointing out a lot of these problems are self-manufactured. “Nah I wanna stick with pussy-pedastalizing all day erry day.”

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt

“Problem is I think once you become game-aware a kind of alienation sets in that makes it harder to maintain friendships with most men and a lot of American men in particular.”

Because the way that you harangue your buddies about how they must act a certain way is the reason for their alienation toward you.

“They’re constantly fucking stuff up and doing dumb things in relationships and ending up unhappy, getting divorced, money probs, blowing themselves out on dates and bitching about chicks.”

Right, because you are the relationship guru.

Matt
Matt
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Probably not, but the good news is I don’t really say much to ’em there’s little point to it. Rather like your habitual abusive and autistic shitposting.

greyghost1
greyghost1
2 years ago

Marriage at any age is still irresponsible. i think the real question is the desire to have and raise your own child. The idea of a wife is to facilitate fatherhood. The control and logical decision making you had over your life with its efficient results go out the window by law with a wife. She will always be a constant burden for even simple things like coming home from work and just sitting down to relax. My experience is that your children are far less a moment to moment burden and are far more rewarding for your personal being than any sacrifice made for a wife. (briffaults law is real) . . .

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

“Marriage at any age is still irresponsible.”

Who? Whom?

“i think the real question is the desire to have and raise your own child.”

Actually, the only answer is the desire for men and women to marry and raise their child together.

greyghost1
greyghost1
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

have you been sleeping under a rock the last fifty years?. If that was still possible legally, culturally and religiously. No man in the west as long as a woman (mother) is present has any rights or authority over his child. That is why this blog and the manosphere even exist. If marriage was even tenable most of the men here wouldn’t be here.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
2 years ago
Reply to  greyghost1

“If that was still possible legally, culturally and religiously.”

What are you even babbling about? Men and women today marry and have children. They work things out their own way.

“No man in the west as long as a woman (mother) is present has any rights or authority over his child.”

That is patently false, bitter old man.

https://family.findlaw.com/paternity/fathers-rights.html

“If marriage was even tenable most of the men here wouldn’t be here.”

YOUR version of marriage is untenable. Get bent, dude.

greyghost1
greyghost1
2 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Gnostic

Yeah there are plenty of men that believe in marriage is the west. You are one of them.