When you adopt a new ideology, which these days involves taking a metaphorical “pill,” you confidently believe that this is it. You’ve arrived at ultimate truth and can now allow the ideology to help you achieve more out of life. You may think there is nothing beyond this particular pill, but it’s actually a mere stepping stone to the ultimate truth, Jesus Christ. Since our brains cannot handle an instantaneous change from dark to light, we are put on a gradual path of spiritual enlightenment. For men of this era, that path includes four different stages.
The blue pill
If you were born after the sexual revolution of the 1960s in a dense suburb or city, your default ideology upon completing puberty is blue pill. You have accepted the lies that are disseminated in the mainstream media and universities. You believe in an inverted reality where men and women are equal, homosexuality is a virtue, there are no differences between the races, and “science” is infallible and the final arbiter of truth. You even buy the myth that a centralized, one-world globalist tyranny is better for humanity and the planet. If you’re a man, you idolize the woman as your personal savior and are prepared to degrade yourself before them to gain bits of intimacy.
The lifestyle of a blue pill man is one of deference to authority figures who are trying to destroy the natural order. He participates on social media to give doxologies to women, he becomes dependent on a corporate job with a “woke” political agenda, he attacks any morsel of truth to maintain his already anemic social status, he is addicted to a neverending cycle of consuming technology and Hollywood entertainment, and he will often participate in internet outrage mobs against conservative figures. He also considers himself “rational” and so will follow popular atheists like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. In the rare case he does believe in “God,” the church he attends will have a giant gay pride flag or “Refugees Welcome” banner displayed out front, mandated by its female pastor.
Born in 1979 in the dense Washington D.C. suburbs, I was blue pill up until discovering the pickup artist community in 2001. Prior to that, I would always get stuffed into the friend zone when I really desired fornication. I had high trust in the news, enjoyed Hollywood movies, and believed that lack of education was the cause of crime among those low on the socio-economic ladder. Once I started applying game, I recognized all the lies that were told to me about women. Other lies collapsed over time as I gradually began to understand which groups were controlling world levers of power.
The red pill
With the red pill, you become armed with the truth that has been concealed from you. And what do you do with that truth? You extract material from the world in the form of women, money, fame, and status. While it’s not a requirement to harness the truth for purely worldly extraction, many men do so, often as a way to compensate for the lack they experienced during their blue pill phase. The red pill has a strong focus on using the truth for individual success and gain.
The lifestyle of a red pill man is centered around self-improvement to create the “best version of yourself.” This means international travel, hitting the gym, reading non-fiction books that contain detailed instruction on personal achievement, pursuing forms of income that maximize freedom and mobility, and interacting with large numbers of women for the purpose of sex or short-term relationships. From 2008 to 2019, my forum was a hang-out for the prototypical red pill man.
The problem with the red pill man is not the set of truths he believes, but that they are applied almost universally to fulfill a man’s unlimited passion for sex, greed, and pride. This pursuit of hedonism has a limited shelf life, because you will adapt to worldly pleasures and satisfaction until hitting a ceiling where you cannot duplicate the highs and blissful feelings of before. The red pill man ignores this truth, believing that happiness or contentment can be continually gained from the material world if he just tries a little bit harder or learns a new technique of sexual extraction from an internet guru who promises to divulge his secrets for the reasonable price of $1,499. While the red pill contains far more truth than the blue pill, it still contains lies in respect to human biology, psychology, and the very existence of our Creator.
I hit a peak with the red pill between 2011 and 2012 when I was traveling through Scandinavia and Eastern Europe to fornicate with a high number of women. I hung on to this lifestyle for a few more years, hoping that it would give me more pleasure, but hit a solid dead-end with it in 2015. I started to look towards stoicism, Taoism, and even wisdom books from the Bible. I would take some pieces of advice here and there, but nonetheless I did not stop my ways of extracting from the world.
The black pill
At the end of the red pill stage, the harsh limitations of the world become all too apparent. Even if you are armed with the truth, that does not guarantee material success or happiness. It could also happen that you have achieved a high level of success but stopped feeling pleasure from it because of adaptation. Soon, you no longer see the point of trying. You enter a black pill stage that is one of both acceptance and hopelessness. You accept the world for how it is while losing hope that your existence can be improved in a substantial way, even though you still hold firm the truths of your red pill phase. For example, you still understand the nature of women, and know that being attractive and charming will obtain sex, but you no longer care for trying to meet them with the same intensity as before.
A man in the black pill stage is essentially sitting on a park bench watching the world go by, with the slight desire to see it burn, because that can at least provide him with entertainment while he sits. He follows the news and takes notes of the newest degradation as proof that life is some kind of cruel joke. He enjoys memes that revel in this state of affairs. He also begins to look down on those who tell him to “just get laid” or “make more money,” because he sees those as the least of his problems. The effect of this is that he begins to remove himself from society.
His mentality becomes one of existential dread, often infused with pointed cynical humor, and it’s not uncommon for him to lose interest in things that used to give him the sort of happiness he now sees as false. A psychiatrist would diagnose him as “depressed” in spite of the fact that there is no structural problem with his brain.
I started taking black pills in 2015, when the Canadian government tried to stop my lectures in Toronto and Montreal. That was followed by an effort to ban my books from Amazon. Then my sister was diagnosed with cancer. In 2016, I was attacked by a worldwide mob that threatened my family’s safety and in 2017 I broke up with a girl who I thought would be the mother of my children. In 2018, my sister died. The only way I could keep it together towards the end of this difficult stretch was to distract myself with work while embracing nihilism. I saw the world as totally meaningless and void of hope.
The God pill
In its Christian form, the God pill is believing that Jesus Christ was sent by God the Father to redeem us for our sins and save our souls. If you take this pill, which is dispensed only by God when you humble yourself before Him, all red pill truths from your past are retained if they really were God-given truths. The black pill is shaken off and you come to see that you have a role to play in this world, that the time you were born in was destined for you. You choose to use the free will that God gave you to do His will instead of the will of Satan like before. You harness the truth for good instead of evil. You realize that the toil and suffering you endure are not for nothing, and you live in a way to receive God’s loving grace.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of Christians who are actually blue pilled and believe in things that have little basis in scripture or Apostolic tradition. There are also Christians who use the faith to assert their superiority over others, such as being overeager to condemn men for their sins. A man who takes the red pill before the God pill is more likely to avoid these pitfalls.
When God offered me the gift of faith in early 2019, I accepted it. Since then I’ve returned to my baptismal faith (Armenian Orthodox Christianity) and have been devouring religious scriptures, articles, books, and sermons. All the mental and intellectual energy I put into extracting from the world in my red pill days is now going towards God. Instead of trying to perfect my game, I try to perfect my faith. Instead of going to the gym to lift heavy weights, I lift the Orthodox Study Bible. Instead of going to the club to listen to pop music, I go to church to listen to hymns. I am still tempted and challenged by the world, but I understand that the struggle I endure is serving a purpose for my salvation and the salvation of those around me. My despair and hopelessness have been lifted as I put full faith in God to deliver me from both personal sin and Satanic evil.
I have described a fourfold path to coming to God that applies to Western men born after the sexual revolution in population-dense environments. Other men who are born into the faith may come to God in a different way, but if you’re like me, you were raised in a secular household to loving but hands-off parents who did not pass on spiritual fruits. Instead, the establishment directed your path straight into the arms of Satan and his lies.
Coming out of a blue pill stage leads to the hedonistic highs of the red pill, but that is sure to be followed by a black pill “hangover,” and the more sins you committed in your red pill phase, the longer you will see black, which will hopefully humble your heart enough to reach out to God for help, and only then may you receive the final pill, the gift of faith. For men like myself, we shall now see how our faith in such a faithless time collides with the evil that is growing around us.
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Consider that the Qur’an is also the word of God and most Muslims are blue/red pill.
There is nothing after Christ and the Bible, which contains the full cycle of human existence.
The Qur’an is a late attempt to dumb down and militarize Judaism for Arabs and Turks; because Jews have long needed a golem army.
Muslims don’t understand their own religion. It’s nothing more than Talmud for Dummies with a shot of testosterone. The Qur’an is not a new “word of God”, but a restatement of the Jewish religion.
The death and resurrection of The Lamb explains everything in world history: past and future. His Death is analogically told of in the first as well as later stories of the Old Testament and his literal Death, Resurrection, and promise of eventual Return is told of in the New.
There is nothing in history outside of that dual-sided cycle of the motivations and actors causing His Death, and then His God willed Resurrection and Return. Every bit of human history is enveloped in that cycle. There is no possibility of a “Qur’an”.
In their scriptures and through their mythological link to both Judaism and its Christianity counterweight, Muslims even acknowledge the foundational importance of the event of the death of the Lamb by including his analogical death in their fundamental myths. Most without realizing it.
Then they proceed to ignore the event’s importance within the rest of their theology: rendering the theology nonsensical. Jews don’t even do that. At the least, Jews continue to place His death as an event of central importance to their theology, through their continuation of their celebration of his death (however twisted and evil).
Islam’s demotion of Christ to prophet status is as much obvious heresy as one needs, among the ample rest, to know that the Qur’an is not the “word of God” but a work of the Old Testament Devil AKA the Serpent whose descendents killed the Lamb in both the Old and New Testaments. Who, again, dumbs down Judaism as needed for his purposes.
Actually Jesus, the son of the virgin Mary (peace be upon them) is considered the Messiah in Islam.
Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah, so I don’t see why you would have the impression Jesus (peace be upon him) is central to their theology.
Christian rejection of the Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings upon him) is by seen Muslims as the equivalent of the Jewish rejection of Jesus.
It is understandable the Muslims would believe this – as the Qur’an states so. The Qur’an being the most significant text on the planet as it’s remained intact in it’s original form as revealed by the Angel Gabriel – something neither the Torah, or Gospel can claim.
There is not another book on the planet that claims to be the direct word of God – as the Qur’an does. So what can possibly be equal to it…and why would God allow the revelation of a book, that claims (and arguably proves) it is from Him to be revealed – if not from Him.
So as much as The Bible are a library of records of God’s previous revelations – the Qur’an IS a revelation form God.
What would even possibly make you want to argue the point – Muslims are commanded to believe in the one God…and like Christians await the return of Jesus, the son of Mary.
Here is why Christianity is true and Islam is not:
I haven’t found a single point on that website that hasn’t been adequately refuted – notice how the website doesn’t include a single response from any Muslims at all, nevermind learned scholars.
There’s also an answering-Christianity website, not that I would encourage using it – as Christians, Jews and Muslims worship the SAME GOD
If pedophilia, rape of sex-slaves, mass-murder and other horrible activities is your “thing” then I can see the appeal of islam.
Every other clear-thinking person on Earth looks at muhammed, and the cult he founded, and left with the inescapable conclusion: muhammed encountered a demon in that cave, and this “thing” he founded is straight from hell.
For the sake of your immortal soul, I urge you to leave muhammed’s cult before it is too late.
Quran is NOT the word pf god but
Allah – The god, not the True crestor God- he does not require black stones kaaba with vagina shapes in them to be worshiped
Roosh, i understand your reaction, but you could just allow these darker comments. God is too great to be offended by it …
Naaa everybody who post vulgar and no constructive comments should be ban. We don’t need to let snakes spread their venom here.
This is a really great response
I am 24 years old and have gone through all these stages; absolutely spot on Roosh. I’m proud to say that I know the LORD, and that if we not follow each one of his commandments He will punish us. The more we fight Him, disobey His laws, and go to war with Him, the sooner and with more potency He reveals himself.
Everything that happens to us in life can be directly attributed to a sin of either our own doing or of our father’s and mother’s doing – and it goes back for generations. God’s will and His world are fair and just – His plan beyond what any human can comprehend.
Step #5: The Islam Pill
As you delve deeper and deeper into Christianity, you start to become troubled more and more by the amount of blue pill ideas you discover that are prevalent in your new religion. You start to question how a religion revealed by God could have so easily become infected by peoples’ untruth and weakness. You start to ask – How can this religion be the final destination, if it is so easily corrupted by the blue pill Christians out there using it for their own means? A part of you starts to yearn once again for the ironclad truths of the red pill that you discovered years ago. You fondly remember that time when you had internalized the red pill truths so deeply, that you were practically immune to any attempt to subvert your clear vision. But now, you find yourself subdued once again, because your new religion is hierarchical, and you find that by lending an open ear to the priests, monks, pastors, popes, and the church in general, blue pill ideas are inevitably sneaking back in. You yearn to become ‘one flesh’ with a woman. You find yourself distracted by the long hair of the woman sitting in the pew in front of you, robbing you of your focus on God. You used to be so ‘woke’ about Jewish subversion, but now you find yourself swallowing whole the teachings of Paul the Apostle as if he were a Prophet himself.
These red pill truths you learned through hardship and experience are slowly slipping away. You remember some good Muslim men you once knew. You start to yearn for a direct teaching from your Creator, something that aligns more closely with the red pill truths you KNOW in your heart to be true. When you look around and see the Islamization of the west, you start to wonder if maybe this is part of God’s plan. You decide to let go of the blue pill brainwashing for a moment that Muhammad pbuh possessed toxic masculinity, and look into Islam. You see all your red pill and God pill truths coalesced into one man- his teachings on the role of men and women, his submission to God alone, the fact that Islam itself is simply his masculine frame dominating the world, unbreakable to this day. You finally realize that Muhammad pbuh is the red pill and God pill in one, and so is Islam.
At least that’s my experience.
Except that Mohammed himself claimed himself to be a prophet. But Jesus claimed to be the Son of God. I’m pretty sure Jesus was bolder and more manly.
“I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for him.”
Muhammad was like Napoleon who said the above words – a conqueror using force and violence. Christ redeemed Adam’s mistake – the latter made us mortal – but Christ reversed it through his sacrifice. He made all the right choices; lived a life of ultimate virtue; and then gave it all up to show us the extent in which we can sin; in which we can be unjust.
God is not with the Muslims: they are a deviation from logos and their sins are punished by God. Saudi Arabia is a perfect example of corruption and sexual degeneracy.
Did you notice that every false prophet claims to have seen an angel all by himself and constructed a religion to have his own harem while other men get nothing of it, like Muhammad and Joseph Smith? Muslims and Jews always hating on the Apostle Paul, though he wrote nothing contrary to the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus. He even wrote in his letter to the Ephesian chapter 5:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
So in which way is Christianity not patriarchal? It was like that for almost 2000 years.
The reason Islam is overtaking is because Christendom became weak in the West – an ongoing process of more than two centuries. Islam is taking the same course since Israel was established to destabilize the Arabian countries, it goes even back to Atatürk who was planted to destroy the Ottoman empire. Islam will meet the same fate.
While the Bible is written in a way that assumes that you know that a god exists and does not think you are an idiot, the Quran seems to be written by an illiterate drill instructor. Your book claims that the sun goes down in muddy water, as it is said in Surah 18:86:
until when he reached the point of sunset, he found it setting into a miry spring, and found a people near it. We said, “O Dhul-Qarnain, either punish them or adopt good behavior with them.”
Please tell me more how Islam is the truth and not another orgy cult that worships a black cube with a vagina.
I agree that one should be careful of false prophets, but I don’t think the parallel with Joseph Smith is entirely accurate. For one, the Prophet Muhammad didn’t have a ‘harem’ as such; most of his wives were older than him, widowed, or were marriages for political alliances and other such pragmatic reasons. The Qur’an itself limits the Prophet’s marriages, hardly the words of a self-serving plagiarist: https://legacy.quran.com/33/52
Also, from the age of 25 until she passed away, the Prophet Muhammad remained married to one woman, Khadija. She was in fact the one who persuaded him he wasn’t crazy after his initial experience with the angel, which was quite harrowing. Not the usual response of a crafty wannabe cult-founder.
As for the verse you cite, to read it as descriptive rather than literal (from the POV of someone seeing the sun set) was considered common understanding among (even pre-modern!) interpreters of the Qur’an. The Bible of course contains much metaphorical language as well.
The Final Step: The NO PILL
You realize where every pill before has taken you, some have strengthen you and others corroded your beliefs.
Beliefs about yourself, people, the world as a whole and reality itself.
At some point after endless religious inconsistencies from the “sacred book” and “holy” men and women, you end up at the top of the pyramid. You get the good of religion but can’t deny there are wrongs in there too.
Then one day it hits you, I already know all sides, all pills, and I know they have their good but are also imperfect, I know where they fail and why they fail, so what am I doing. These thoughts you push aside but never leave you.
At some point you start acting and talking like you are enough and know enough and it works wonders your mind and physical actions. You have understood that faith actually is and how to use it, but this time there is not overlord stopping you only your morals could tell you to do as you wish as long as you don’t hurt yourself or anyone else, and if someone does gets hurt by your decision and is an adult/able minded then let them decide.
After all you don’t control people, you only control yourself but can still influence others because you know how to influence yourself from the inside.
And because you have mastered the inside now you master the outside too. You read people better, get insights in the morning when you wake up and have the will power to do anything throughout the day without a y mental difficulty at all.
You are the authority in your life, you are no slave to your impulses or to God, in any case you are like God, a son of God who possesses his self esteem, power and self sufficiency to help himself and the world.
You have finished the journey, a new one begins.
Pass it down or get even better and help the world get better, build a better world, a better tomorrow for all
By these definitions, I guess I was raised with a pretty hefty dose of “black pill” mentality, with a little “God pill” mixed in.
I STILL got the “blue pill” shoved down my throat after being coerced into going to college, and had to go through the whole progression from the “beginning.”
It’s embarrassing to look back and see that I had a better head on my shoulders – and a better sense of right and wrong – when I was 5 than when I was 25.
I am german and have been born in a traditional hardworking christian family from the countryside. All these mentioned paradigms/pills are mostly lower quality, but I see the god pill as the right direction. I don´t wanna get stucked in the first three paradigms and I am also not a fan of islam.
I don´t wanna be blue pill, even if ignorance can be bliss. I quitted this mainstream mindset long time ago.
I don´t wanna be red pill, even if it feels good to game and control women, it´s an awful state to be in after the initial highs of validation and success. It´s also a very addictive state with a strong pull back, even after transcending to new paradigms.
I need more to life than the typical red pill state around power, self-improvement, money and chicks.
I absolute don´t wanna be black pill anymore, because Nihilism sucks and the black pill is even more awful than the blue or red pill. The black pill is too much the mindset of being a victim in a hopeless world.
Mabye the black pill is necessary to break through to higher levels , but it´s not the right state to conciously choose and to get stuck in.
The typical Islamic worldview seems humorless, narcissistic, self-centered, dramatic, loveless, animalistic, cultish : It has serious bugs and needs serious upgrades. I don´t wanna live in a world framed the islamic way.
…and I also don´t wanna frame my world through the typical christian paradigm, even if it has some healthy and beautiful sides to it.
God is so much more perfect and beautiful than seen through the average christian paradigm.
I don´t know what´s going on with Roosh, he is probably heading in a healthier direction and I am happy when he feels better now, but I don´t buy the god pill the way he is selling it.
Don´t get me wrong, I like Roosh´s stuff alot and think he´s a funny guy and in some ways i consider him even a legend. I think he can be respected in alot ways, but god framed through 100% straight christianity is not my way to go. Let´s see what Roosh will talk about after his next major shift of paradigms. There are many paradigms to frame the world which
aren´t invented and wanna be tested …
“The typical Islamic worldview seems humorless, narcissistic, self-centered, dramatic, loveless, animalistic, cultish…”
You are correct in that this is definitely true for many Muslims, but by no means all of them, and by no means is self-centered narcissism the message of the Qur’an (or humorless, loveless, animalistic cultish drama either, for that matter!).
For a more accurate perspective on Islam check out what Islamic scholars like Hamza Yusuf have to say, and read the Qur’an – particularly the translation by Muhammad Asad. http://www.muhammad-asad.com/Message-of-Quran.pdf
Here is a short video from Hamza Yusuf, talking about the Prophet Muhammad:
Here are the most beautiful names of God, as mentioned in the Qur’an, see if they align with your instinctual acknowledgement of God’s beauty and perfection: islamicity.org/covers/99-names-of-allah/
Godspeed to you in your journey towards truth!
I appreciate your response, links and wishes alot !
I would never deny that there are deep, wise and good men/women who have been conditioned and grown up in an islamic context.
My best wishes to you !
Thank you for the kind words, and same to you!
Actually, while I was looking for possibilities to link, I also came across this very nice video called ‘How is God to be Known?’, given by Abdal Hakim Murad (or. Timothy Winter), but I didn’t want to go overboard lol.
Here it is, in case you have the time/inclination to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXncXoSTFAE
And both Hamza Yusuf and Abdal Hakim Murad are converts to Islam, btw! (American and British, respectively.)
Pickup artist life cycle
Phase 1: virgin or low experience, gets into pickup with the goal of getting a girlfriend as quickly as possible and quitting, 90% fail.
Phase 2: of the 10% who succeed, about 5%, usually the ones who learned it really fast, actually quit and go back to the matrix.
Phase 3: the addicts, the last 5% become addicted and sleep with dozens, hundreds, even thousands of women, they think they’re on top of the world. 4% get stuck here.
Phase 4: the mental breakdown. The last 1% finally realize all the sex in the world won’t make them any different. They have a mental breakdown or self sabatoge/implode. Some end up dead or in jail.
Phase 5: acceptance, the remaining few partially or totally abandon pickup and adopt some new ideaology. Examples:
-Roosh imploded during his scandals and personal tragedy, adopts religion as a value system. Abandons game entirely, says game just gets damaged women.
-RSD Tyler self imploded twice, once when The Game came out, and later during Juliengate when he got cancelled and his girlfriend abused him. Still approves of game but admits it won’t make you happy, now he’s adopted some new age Buddhism thing.
-RSD Julien self imploded during Juliengate and considered suicide. Quit game altogether, says casual sex and money have no value other then getting them to learn they are worthless, he’s adopted some new age value system similar to Tyler.
-Asian Rake, self imploded when he attempted suicide. Abandoned game entirely, is now anti game, says life is pointless without value systems and character. Adopts his own moralistic philosophy. Says game attracts narcissistic predatory women.
-RSD Jeffy, self imploded during his scandal and when his dad died. Still likes game and sees value in casual sex, possibly due to trauma he experienced as a kid he doesn’t have a deeply imbedded family value system like most people. But he has said teaching game is boring and has adopted goals based on being positive about the black pill and helping people even if it’s pointless.
-RSD Max, he seems to be in the process. He had a partial breakdown during juliengate when a feminist mob attacked him and later due to overwork. He quit teaching game and mentioned that he might be wasting his time chasing women. He’s noticeably more tense and on edge in his videos now, in his old videos he was like a happy kid.
-Mystery, self imploded like 4 times now. I don’t know what he’s doing. Maybe he’ll eventually figure out something.
And what is the lesson we can learn from all of them? Get married and make children and you will stop losing your mind easily. The only ones I know of, who never changed over the years, are Elliott Hulse and Pastor Steven Anderson; they are like rocks, never changing and never fading and high energy. Both got married in their early 20s and learned self-sacrifice from a young age, and what I learned by watching these two men is that they never whine, just get along with the circumstances and rise above them. All PUAs seem to have an ego problem because their lifestyle revolves around how they can please themselves, usually attracting people with the same mindset. While being married makes you altruistic and self-sacrificing. You do not think about your own pleasures, but what can you do for others. This is a Christian principle, which, when coming from a genuine heart, purifies your soul.
The virgin omega and the citizen dildo (PUA) have one thing in common: they pedestalize women into the stratosphere and think they are the only means of satisfaction. There is way more to it than women, yet they do not realize it. Matrimony gives you balance and the idea that you are not the only one, and if you are not a man-child with ego-problems who married an ungrateful golddigger, you are pretty well off with all highs and lows.
“if you are not a man-child with ego-problems who married an ungrateful golddigger, you are pretty well off with all highs and lows.”
Good luck trying to find a female today worth marrying.
What is RSD?
who are these people?
You seem to miss that demons main main playground involve the sexual interaction. More so than drugs and violence.
In the act of sexual inter course there is an exchange of demons between the people involved and you gain all the baggage of darkness the other person has. Promiscuous and not to mention escorts cary a special heavy load. Living that lifestyle will bring you a lot of problems in all aspects of life. Psychological, physical and existential problems. This is something i have confirmed personally and i have no doubts… when i stay faithful to my wife things just happen to flow in a positive manner in a magical way
Your first three points were elaborate and described how you treated yourself and acted in the world. Though, the fourth point, God Pill, does not go into detail. There is no explaination how you came to the Faith, nor how your heart was changed and how you started to treat others. Roosh, I love you, and this is why I point out that your secular writings are deeper and more sophisticated than your spiritual writings. You can read the Bible and Christian literature until the cows come home, but since it has been one year into the Faith, from almost 40 years of a secular lifestyle, there is no point writing about it. Imagine I would start writing and giving others advice about fitness even though I have just started working out and most of my knowledge is based on reading books and forum posts.
Your observations about cultural diseases are so appealing are a great read because you have been doing it for years, though your newfound Faith is not rooted deeply enough to advise others about it. Be patient, interact with as many people as you can and see how you feel and act. The actions you take in your day to day life determine your spirituality, not only literature.
” but it’s actually a mere stepping stone to the ultimate truth, Jesus Christ”
I just feel the need to ask this question, because as someone raised Christian I would like to know: What did people do before Christianity? What happened after they died?
By the same token, what happened to people who reasonably could not have been expected to at least be aware of the gospel (and therefore be held accountable if they reject it), like the Aztecs or Inca’s or anyone from South/North America up until the 15th century?
They were all unrepentant heathens, so did they all go to hell? Why would God create these people if their entire destiny beforehand would be a hellbound journey, never getting the opportunity to exercise their free will in at least choosing for or against faith.
See the above, plus here is what the Catholic Church believes about people like you describe:
“Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.”
There is no Biblical hell
There Are The 4 Words Translated As “Hell”
Most of the confusion around Hell starts with translation error. There are four separate Hebrew and Greek words which are translated into the single English word “Hell”, despite having drastically different meanings.
Sheol (Hebrew)Hades (Greek)Tartarus (Greek)Gehenna (Greek)
First, according to the view of the Catholic Church and I’d assume the Orthodox churches are the same or similar, all people are created by God and created in His image. That includes people born before Christ’s Incarnation.
In the apostle Paul’s time, “Gentiles” were the non-Jews. They were not seen by the Jewish people as part of the nation of Israel. They were not among God’s chosen people. They were not under the Law of Moses. They were not “saved”. Yet God’s law was and is written onto their hearts and the hearts of all men.
In Romans 2:14-15, Paul explains: “For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness…” In other words, as the Orthodox philosopher and theologian David Bentley Hart, puts it “to seek the good is already to believe in God.”
It’s critical to understand that God is not, as Hart explains, “some very large object or agency within the universe, or perhaps alongside the universe, a being among other beings, who differs from all other beings in magnitude, power, and duration, but not ontologically, and who is related to the world more or less as a craftsman is related to an artifact.”
No, Hart continues, God is “the one infinite source of all that is: eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, uncreated, uncaused, perfectly transcendent of all things and for that very reason absolutely immanent to all things.” He is beyond the ability of the human mind to fully comprehend. As St Augustine said, “If you can understand it, it is not God”. A finite mind will always discover more to learn about infinite God.
God has always existed. From infinity past to infinity future, God is always the great “I am”. Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I am.” (Jn 8:58) He is the one “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Rev 1:8) God does not view time in the same way you and I do. 1 Pet 3:8 says, “with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
It is Jesus’ death and resurrection that make possible our salvation. During the time after Christ’s death on the Cross and before his resurrection, the Church teaches that He descended into hell: “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison…” (1 Pet 3:18-19).
Peter also says in 1 Pet 4:5-6, the Gentiles “will give account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God.”
The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, “The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfillment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption … In his human soul united to his divine person, the dead Christ went down to the realm of the dead. He opened heaven’s gates for the just who had gone before him.”
The Church calls this place that the just went “limbus patrum”. The condition of limbus patrum is best illustrated by the parable of the poor man Lazarus held in Abraham’s bosom.
This is exactly the question that Islam answers. Man’s salvation lies in submitting to the concept of “tawhid” (pronounced tau-heed), meaning the ones-ness of God. From the beginning of humanity, starting with Adam, God sent messengers preaching the same message, “worship the one and only true God, the Creator, Nourisher and Sustainer”. All prophets and messengers were tasked with delivering this basic message to humanity. While we honor, love and respect this long line of men, they are not the centerpiece to salvation. Embracing their message of “tawhid” is. Every community on earth since the beginning of humanity had access to this message through any one the thousands of prophets/messengers God sent us most of whom we will never know of.
Me too(38 years old) , have gone through the exact same path; secular family, blue pill, scientific education, red pill, a good job, luxury, women women and women ( lived in and been to Ukraine many times), read lots of books. And for quite some time I’ve been feeling the same way that marginal revenue is getting less and less from this life. Yet that doesn’t make me believe in fairy stories without any foundation at all. I don’t know the answer but I will continue to search, it is better to die searching then taking some false belief to be the truth. Religion is composed of mainly 4 things: fear of death, psychological need, illiteracy and politics. Your life and your sister’s death have shaken you really bad.
Gnomak wrote :
“Yet that doesn’t make me believe in fairy stories without any foundation at all. I don’t know the answer but I will continue to search, it is better to die searching then taking some false belief to be the truth”
My answer :
Gnomak, i frame this part of your answer as arrogant and narrow-minded. Sure, you could be right, but what do you know about another mans (Roosh´s) inner experience ? I have the feeling that you don´t have enough information to call another mans (Roosh´s) actual reality and faith a false believe…
I know what Christianity is. It is a fairy tale like all other religions. There is no foundation under them. There are two sides: One side is science, logic, experiments, evolution etc. The other side is magic, walking on water,resurrect the dead etc. If you know the two sides but still insist on the second then it is a psychological condition.
There are more than two sides. I am not attached to religions, so I have no problem when you call all religions fairy tales. I wouldn´t do it, but i get your point.
I hope you get my point when I say that much of science is treated like a religion these days and when you argue that all religions are fairy tales, much of science could be a fairy tale, too.
“I don’t know the answer but I will continue to search, it is better to die searching then taking some false belief to be the truth”
This is probably the most reasonable path to take, IMHO.
The truth (so far) is the No Pill
I made a post on one of the comments above, cheers.
“For example, you still understand the nature of women, and know that being attractive and charming will obtain sex, but you no longer care for trying to meet them with the same intensity as before.”
Women are a lot like beer: every man gets his fill and then he goes home and throws up.
I’m not just talking sex, but trying to connect with them for all the right reasons.
I no longer care to meet women at all, let alone with ‘less intensity’. When you understand women’s true nature, one gets really put off, but good.
And thinking that you’re going to meet a virtuous young female at a church, today’s church, you can forget it.
Sam wrote :
“I no longer care to meet women at all, let alone with ‘less intensity’. When you understand women’s true nature, one gets really put off, but good”
My answer :
True for me, too. Once I was crazy about chicks and always on the hunt. Since I took too many red pills, I lost my love for the chase and don´t go for the chicks anymore. I know there are still some worthy women out there, but i don´t search for them. If they come, good – if they don´t come, good too. I lost my passion for game almost 3 years ago and I think i will probably never regain my fire when it comes to chasing chicks.
Roosh. You’re a fucking hero. You will be spoken of in a thousand years time
What don’t I know about this “legend”
Roosh I have always loved your deep philosophical outlook on life. Yet earlier it seemed hypocritical and you seem to hate the lifestyle but continue so I’m happy you found god. Going through life I’ve have gone through these faces of realizing society was a lie. Going down self improvement becoming a digital nomad gaining everything I dreamed of then realizing God is the only way. I’m 24 and I still need to find an outer purpose but understand God is the highest purpose. Our society makes this so hard to see. But I’m so happy God could open your eyes you are such a great example someone like me can understand. Always been a huge fan of your style. Hope your happy in your next stage stay strong brother.
Why do most of you pickup artist abandon chasing women around age 40, burned out and choosing another interest?
I remember when “The Game” abandoned game and entered rehab for sex addiction. He was mocked by other pickup artists for just being a pickup artist and not Alpha.
Your religious sanctuary is actually your own sex rehab. The reality is that chasing women like chasing basketball or golf or football or rugby; any sport takes a lot of energy a man cannot sustain throughout his life hence the retirement of professional sportsmen around late 30s.
I am sure you won’t listen to these your “new found truths” were you to be in your late 20s or early 30s at your testosterone peak and high.
Truth is what you make of it. I am a man of faith. You can deny Darwin but you can’t deny the role of biology in shaping your worldview
There are another couple of steps to go. You are effectively at the eighth picture in the ten pictures of the Zen Oxen. Which in Zen they would describe as realizing emptiness, and you would describe as finding God. The tenth and final oxen picture is of the Zen master re-entering the market place, frolicking with the citizens with joyous abandon, and able to do so without attachment developing and with sufficient wisdom to avoid hurting self or others as he is utterly abandoned to emptiness (or God as you would have it).
You might also describe where you are at as the third rank of Tozan, which is characterized by the ‘stench of enlightenment.’ The fifth rank is the same in principle as the tenth oxen picture.
Nothing wrong with that, been there myself, but understand there are further paradigm shifts in front of you.
Roosh, I am reading a book by Leonard Glick called “Marked in Your Flesh.” It is in opposition to circumcision, and delves into centuries of Christianity’s fervent opposition to the Jewish mutilation of baby penises. Modern day US Christians, who practice mass circumcision, know nothing of this history, which goes back to the time of Saint Paul. If you agree about the harm of genital cutting, it would be a great service if you mentioned it to your many followers, especially younger ones of childbearing age. They will listen to you. Thanks.
BTW, I became a huge fan when you were on your speaking tour of the US, and I watched every weekly episode. Your conversion from pick-up-artist to man of God has been an inspiration, and I am looking into possibly joining an Orthodox church – though they have all been closed for now by order of our Jewish governor. This Covid-19 hysteria has been blown out of all proportion, and I fear the worst is yet to come. Peace.
I think I’m in between the black pill and God pill phase
Nice read………………yep, surrender to God the only way to real peace in the soul. Suffering can put enough of a chink in the armour of our belief systems to allow the Grace of God to enter and enlighten us
Glad you are following one and ONLY TRUTH. The BIBLE and Jesus Christ!!!!! Best WISHES-John