6 Reasons Why I Probably Won’t Get Married

Recently I spent time with extended family. A common question was, “Why aren’t you married yet?” I replied by asking them how much time they had for me to explain all the reasons. While it’s easy to portray modern marriage as a bad deal, most of my reasons are purely individual in nature.

Here are six reasons why I’m not cut out for marriage…

1. I need more alone time than a woman can tolerate

I only like being social for 2-4 hours a day, preferably at night. Once I fulfill a day’s social interaction needs, I power down and rather not talk anymore.

The problem when living with a woman is that they want to be social as soon as they get up and remain social for the rest of the day. They talk to me, ask me questions, and generally want to feel like they are living with another human being. Even worse, I’m exceedingly moody and sometimes want to go a day or two without talking to anyone. My wife would probably find this intolerable.

Possible solution: find an introverted girl who is less social than me

2. I don’t permit my woman complete “freedom” because I understand her true nature

A big reason I don’t want to get married is that I understand women. Most women are driven by emotional states and social trends—she’s your woman as much as she is everyone else’s. If my woman doesn’t have traditional values, I’ll be forced to lay down rules that block the serpent from tempting her, but that will lead her to resent me for limiting her freedom. She’ll rebel and pick senseless fights with me. A woman may want a strong man to feel maximum attraction, but she doesn’t want him to limit her lifestyle options.

Possible solution: find a traditional woman who already knows how to be reasonably good

3. I don’t like sharing my bed because I’m a light sleeper

While I can fall asleep easily, I wake up often and have trouble going back to sleep. Reading before bed, putting on white noise, and wearing a night mask help only somewhat. The problem is that women who sleep in my bed want to touch me or cuddle, but this causes me to wake up, destroying my sleep further. With one girlfriend, I floated the idea of having separate bedrooms upon marriage. Needless to say, we’re no longer together.

Possible solution: build a pillow wall in the middle of the bed so she doesn’t try to sneak in any touches while I’m sleeping

4. I’m exceedingly rigid in my daily routine and how I like things done

I’m an easy-going and flexible guy when it comes to social interactions, and many girls I’ve slept with would probably say I’m “fun,” but I’m a nightmare to live with. I want everything done my way with little deviation. My tea has to be a certain temperature, my bread has to be sliced at an exact thickness, and the sunlight coming into my room has to be just right.

I tried teaching previous girlfriends how to make things the way I prefer, but they just can’t duplicate my perfection. I firmly believe that I do things in the best way, so I see no need to compromise on that.

Possible solution: find a younger girl without rigid living habits who doesn’t mind adopting mine

5. I don’t want to be with a woman who makes my life more difficult or stressful

Satisfy me Rooshiepoo!

Let’s be honest: most women take way more than they give, and all they really give is sex and basic companionship. I don’t mind giving everything I have to the woman I love, but if she’s not actively reciprocating to make my life better, what’s the point of marriage?

Very few women are trained these days to improve the lives of men. In fact, they are trained to believe men are the enemy and they are entitled to some sort of reparation package just because they were born a woman.

Possible solution: find a traditional woman who was trained to please her husband

6. I have an abnormally high need for peace and quiet

My job requires a high degree of concentration and focus. When things get too loud, I’m unable to produce such fine writing as what you’re enjoying right now. The problem is that women prefer a background loudness in their lives so they don’t feel alone. They wake up and want to watch YouTube videos, put on music, or talk on the phone. I can’t work under those conditions, especially during the day. In the evening, a woman can make all the noise she wants, especially in bed, but upon waking I need complete and utter silence.

Possible solution: buy a house so big that I can’t hear my wife (and children) while writing or meditating in my study

Conclusion

Note how I didn’t mention becoming bored sleeping with the same woman. A lot of other men have this problem, but if I get horny, which still happens, I’m more than eager to put it in her after removing the wall of pillows between us.

All of the reasons I mentioned are not insurmountable obstacles, and the solution may be as simple as finding a young, shy, traditional, virgin girl raised on a farm, but I must admit that the kind of man I am doesn’t lend well to the compromises that marriage demands. If I find a woman who can handle the quirks above, she may very well be the one.

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Dj_Das
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You have become the male version of a single older lady

Vic Wilson
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No such thing………..so long as he has s few bucks

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I think you need 2-3 cats…crazy cat guy.

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hey cats are cool!

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Roosh I believe that we need some kinds of relationships in our lives where we can put our ego on a pedestal (being the boss, being the best player, being the most accomplished man in the room, etc) and we also need relationships in our lives which diminish and strip away our ego (having a child, having a wife, working under a brilliant mind, etc. that demand selflessness).

I think nature rewards us for good behaviour. Example is that sex feels good because nature intended us to feel good when reproducing.

Selfless relationships are also similarly highly rewarded by nature by design.

But I get your point about the introversion. Im an introvert too and yet struggle with the non invasive presence of my housemate.

But I understand at the same time that too much introversion kills my mood and drive.

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Nature does not have intent.

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Nature is unceasingly geared towards the cycle of reproduction

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Yes, but that does not imply intent however. You can explain the evolution of biological life without the need for any “force” promoting the process.

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I’m more inclined to believe in a force given that our autopilot subconscious influences 90% of emotions and behaviours.

Even if I wanted to not feel attracted to a woman whose qualities I despise, I still am because of nature forces I cannot control.

Or why do I feel empathetic to children. I did not consciously first think about being respectful to them.

I’m sure you can override the subconscious through constant brainwashing and living in an unnatural manner but this natural force will bring up depression and infirmities.

This is the wisdom of the stoics and almost all religions. First studying the force and it’s patterns and then living according to it.

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You feel empathic towards children since it favours survival. Both of your own offspring of course, as well as the offspring of the tribe, but to a much lesser extent. (Group selection) Primates and homonids evolved in smaller groups ranging between only a dozen individuals up to about 100-150. It`s not hard to see how traits like these where selected for.

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You have just labelled a pattern but it doesn’t explain why the pattern became a pattern and remains a pattern.

If altruism does not serve a purpose then evolution would have evolved us to be narcissistic islands. Just like you see a lone wolf.

Roosh wants to live his own life in the order he wants to. But because he does not subscribe to altruism, he will always be a broken man till his last breath. Hating that his being desires the company of a woman but at the same time wishing that his being could do away with the need for a woman and remain an island.

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-I just explained the purpose of altruism, survival of the offspring. (but really the gametes) Your own offspring as well as the tribes, to a certain extent.

-Altruism is only one way though, and it`s certainly not ubiquitous in nature, rather the opposite. (Some species of eagles are reclusive for example, they only meet up to breed, and not much else.) Altruism, in the limited extent it`s observed in biological creatures evolved because it was advantageous for survival, as did violence, a sense of humour, (that`s why only men are funny, and dykes) creativity etc. They all serve the purpose of survival again. As for evolution itself, you could argue that it`s a natural law, since the universe itself also follows the same pattern.

-Many married men seem very broken to me.

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Even with the most reclusive and solitary animals like eagles, when they produce offspring, they altruistically share their food, home, security and skills with their offspring for no benefit.

Nature commands altruism.

You seem to see life as separate between different animals but I only see one life.

If life wants to thrive in the cold, it will grow fur. If life wants to thrive in the oceans, it will grow gills. If life wants to drill into a tree trunk, it will grow a chisel of a beak. The force of life has a mind of its own and is God.

Our conscious intellectual thought is paltry in comparison to our subconscious thought that the force of life gives us. You ever try to catch a baseball? do you know how many calculations your subconscious went through in order to place your hands at the right catching angle given the velocity, height and weight of the ball? How can you not think then that there is a deeper order to life then that one must sync up with?


Just because one marries doesn’t make them altruistic.

Nature commands man to shed his selfishness in order to make space for the woman. And then later he must become even more selfless when kids arrive on to the scene. The man who disobeys this order and remains in his selfishness is a broken man who has gone against his subconscious nature.

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“Even with the most reclusive and solitary animals like eagles, when they produce offspring, they altruistically share their food, home, security and skills with their offspring for no benefit”

Did you even read my other comments? The benefit is the survival of the germ line. Those animals are just seeing to it that their DNA survives, hence the illusion of altruism.

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Johnnyvee do you really believe in what you write? Your writing is that of ‘materialism’ philosophy. Nothing matters except matter.

Do you even know what is “altruism”? Its evil. But I get the feeling you do not grasp “why”.

If you want love (and psychologically: an emergence from biology), then you must exercise benevolence. Otherwise you will eventually find yourself in a ‘meaningless’ existence even if successful . When that happens to ‘stars’ they either kill themselves or other dangers like drugs to ‘feel’ good.

Practice benevolence and be selfish (seek your rational self interest – but do it rationally).

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I wish it was as easy as materialism my friend. But it`s hard to prove that anything is real at all. Not even matter. Physicists talk about strings that vibrate in differents dimensions now…who knows? Evolution IS a reality within this universe though, whatever the universe is.

Maybe the best philosophy towards life is to not ask for meaning. I`m not as interested in meaning either, it`s more the how than the why that concerns me. I wanna know how things work. There probably is no why. Why is an illusion made up in human minds. Why does there have to be a why at all? Think about it.

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That was an awesome exchange guys! Insightful to the max.

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Maybe some species of eagles have the right idea.

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The russian roulette dating scene seems tough and pretty emotionally empty these days.. Hope you eventually find someone that makes you happy, but you gotta take a look at yourself too man. You’ll be a version of a cat woman that happens to be a man. then once you are old you will have to pay for ass; unless you have a $chitload of money, have mad game, or are hung like John Holmes… Nothing would replace the woman i love and the family of kids we created together. Im a recluse too; not that i can’t hang with people, but i rather enjoy my alone time too. I get a day a week and I’m cool with that. Plus i take off and have trips and she is cool with that. I also encourage her to do the same with her girls..

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Find someone to make you happy? Let’s examine this in detail.

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I find it funny how any of you are not surprised by the predicament that opposite sex relationships are in. We created this monster with women. We let the girlll power flourish. After they ride the carousel they have 1000 line items of for a man that they might want to settle down for but why would a dude worth himself settle for that? Same thing for a dude whose stuck his Cox in a thousand women and then expects to get a chick that is prude with huge teets from a small town farm, who will say yes master and be at his becking call. A girl like that would also be stupid to fall for a playa like that. Hilarious! Western Society is in a huge battle. Cultural, moral, spiritual, relationship, and idiotic political. You’d be better off to MGTOW. That being said I do hope y’all find what you are looking for; whether it be prude yes sir girl of your dreams chick, MGTOW, bar fly chicks, etc….

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“You’d be better off to MGTOW.”

Must be the gamma talking in you. Real men marry. Real men raise children. Two immutable truths.

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The immutable truth is finally revealed…..JC was a gamma man, for He never married and raise children. Heck, He most likely never even got laid. LOL

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Except Jesus was not a MGTOW, or a gamma, or even remotely identified with the manospherean world. He was an Alpha for dying for the sins of Christians, and an Alpha for promoting marriage and having children. He had a special relationship and role, one designed by God. All you are doing here is denigrating a religious figure for your own sick satisfaction.

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Except Jesus was not a MGTOW, or a gamma, or even remotely identified with the manospherean world.

Dafuq happened to YOUR 2 immutable truths that real men marry and have children???

Honorable persons are consistent even if it their consistencies lead to inconveniences…….wait….ah I forgot that you’re a woman, and as such don’t have the concept of honor, mea culpa.

Anyhow, JC may not identify with the Manospherian world but the alpha-gamma term applies to Him nonetheless, just like you may not identify with the Muslim world but the term kaffir applies to you if you’re not one of them.

He was an Alpha for dying for the sins of Christians,

Ah, so He died for the sins of Christians now? Instead of dying for the sins of humanity?

Well, He might be an alpha for dying for the sins of Christians or simply for pissing off the Jewish Pharisees hence the “His blood is on us and on our children!” #matthew27-25

However, He clearly was a gamma for failing to measure up to YOUR 2 immutable truths i.e. get married and raise children. Dying for the sins of Christians or dying for the sake of Allah certainly doesn’t have a prayer against 2 IMMUTABLE TRUTH, now does it? Therefore the verdict – JC was a gamma.

and an Alpha for promoting marriage and having children.

LOL promoting marriage and having children by NOT marrying and having children Himself? AKA do as I preach, not as I do?

Matthew 19:10-12 New International Version (NIV)

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

Now show me where in the Bible did JC promote marriage and having children. And nope, YOUR own version of the Bible doesn’t count.

He had a special relationship and role, one designed by God.

*YAWN* don’t subscribe to the doctrine of trinity, now do you? One can’t be considered a Christian if one doesn’t subscribe to the doctrine of trinity, just ask James R. White. Heck, White doesn’t even consider Catholics who subscribe to the doctrine of trinity as his brothers in Christ.

The concept of trinity says that JC is God Himself so why couldn’t God aka JC design that JC got married and raise children AND THEN died for the sins of the Christians?

All you are doing here is denigrating a religious figure for your own sick satisfaction.

Absolutely not, I pointed out the fact that JC clearly failed to measure up to YOUR 2 immutable truths that real men marry and have children. Now if you conveniently go back on your own words then I’ve called you out on your bullshits as well.

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“Dafuq happened to YOUR 2 immutable truths that real men marry and have children???”

What, are you 12? Real men do marry and have children.

God proclaimed it. Jesus proclaimed it. Jesus is the alpha male here, who as the son of God was on a mission. He died for our sins, those Christian and those for humanity. Of course he measured up to my truths, as he was married to his faith and his followers were his children, as in those to guide to the promised land.

He promoted marriage and having children–that was his life’s work. But since he had a higher calling, one directly from His father, he did not marry and have children. He was the alpha male here.

Are you that dense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_marriage#Jesus_on_marriage,_divorce,_and_remarriage

You’re just not that smart.

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What, are you 12? Real men do marry and have children.

JC didn’t marry and have children, ergo, JC ain’t a real man. See? It’s not that hard to understand, now is it?

God proclaimed it. Jesus proclaimed it.

Proclaimed what?

Jesus is the alpha male here, who as the son of God was on a mission. He died for our sins, those Christian and those for humanity.

On a mission indeed, and a suicidal one at that. But Alpha male? That never-got-laid-in-His-entire-goddamed-life? Nah, can’t be.

Of course he measured up to my truths, as he was married to his faith and his followers were his children, as in those to guide to the promised land.

Ah, so real men don’t have to marry women in order to earn that coveted status as ‘real men’. A man can marry his faith instead, doesn’t raise children, and still be recognized as a real man after all.

Well then, those MGTOW Youtubers and bloggers who are married to their faith (MGTOW) and have followers are….wait fer it………real men to a man!

But wait……….why focus on men only? What about those women who don’t marry and raise children? Surely fer the sake of equality, those spinsters must NOT be deemed as real women. #whatgoodfortheganderisgoodforthegoose

He promoted marriage and having children–that was his life’s work.

Promoted marriage and having children by NOT marrying and having children Himself??? “Great” logic you’ve got there, “genius”. LOL

But since he had a higher calling, one directly from His father, he did not marry and have children. He was the alpha male here.

Is there even any higher calling than raising children? Why couldn’t JC had children first AND THEN got Himself crucified? Sorry dawg, no children no alpha male.

Are you that dense? https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Bitch please, had you bothered to actually read that Wikipedia article which you yourself provided, you’ll find out that Jesus never encourage marriage and having biological children. Quite the contrary, in fact:

“I tell you the truth,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life.” — Luke 18:29–30

You’re just not that smart.

LOL compared to a “genius” like you? No fooooooookkeeeenn shhheeeeiitt dawg!

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Get it through that pointed head of yours…Jesus was an alpha male who believed in the absolute importance of marriage and family, as he was married to his calling and whose family was his followers. He set the bar. Today’s alpha men are married and have children, just as God commanded and Jesus promoted.

Here ended the lesson.

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Jesus said he was the alpha and the omega. That should really tell you something.

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Get it through that pointed head of yours…Jesus was an alpha male who believed in the absolute importance of marriage and family, as he was married to his calling and whose family was his followers.

Didn’t I tell you that YOUR own version of the Bible doesn’t count? Gosh, what a bonehead.

He set the bar.

Yeah, He set the bar by NOT marrying and NOT having children Himself.

Today’s alpha men are married and have children,

Only true if the definition of alpha men is perverted into = men who are married and have children.

just as God commanded and Jesus promoted.

#Trinity. The holy spirit aka God aka JC never promote marriage in the Bible, but no doubt He does in YOUR own version of the Bible. #bullshitbible

Here ended the lesson.

Here ended your bullshits, always a pleasure to be able to expose them though.

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Christ died for the Elect. (Of every tribe and nation ) – His sacrifice is sufficient for all but efficient for the Elect.
John 10:11

“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.” – NOT THE GOATS

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50% of real men get divorced. 90% of those men lose their children in custody battles.

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“50% of real men get divorced.”

You mean 50% of couples get divorced.

“90% of those men lose their children in custody battles.”

Actually, it is 5% of all divorce cases with children go to court. The other 95% things are settled between the involved parties.

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You mean 50% of couples get divorced.

In order to get divorced, the couple aka the man and the woman must get married first. No marriage no divorce, duh.

Earlier, some foaming-at-the-mouth bonehead was ranting & raving about the immutable truth that alpha men get married. Well, it would appear that those 50% “alpha” men who got married and then got divorced must have been gammas in disguise all along.

Actually, it is 5% of all divorce cases with children go to court. The other 95% things are settled between the involved parties.

Source?

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Excellent reply, Harry. Indeed, happiness “is way to important to outsource.” In fact, it cannot be outsourced.

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One thing most single guys who dread marriage and kids don’t realize is how much you like being with you kids and look forward to it. My baby daughter is sick right now and has been fussing most of the day. Would be incredibly annoying if it were someone else’s kid, but since she’s mine it’s no big deal and I just want to be her daddy and comfort her.

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Not saying it`s the case for your daughter, but kids in general are fed waaay to much sugar, refined starch (flour) and seed oil laden crap these days. As I`m sure you know, this will reduce immune function. It promotes inflammation, elevates cortisol and is also low in nutrient density. Things like vitamin C and Zinc are required by phagocytes (immune cells) for their normal functioning. Also grains contain phytates that tend to bind to minerals, in addition to being nutrient poor in the first place.

I could go on and on about this, but putting your kid on a more Paleo type “natural” diet (it`s doable) will mean reduced rate of sickness. I`ve seen it so many times now. Paleo fed kids hardly ever get sick. Here`s a good brand of baby foods to check out if your interested. https://myserenitykids.com/

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Back in the day REAL paleo cave moms pre chewed their baby’s food until it was thoroughly predigested and mushy like pureed veal. Then the cave mom puckered and spat the bite into the baby’s mouth kind of like a french kiss mouthful transfer only not. I’m vaguely remembering western pioneers doing the same thing. Mama’s spit never hurt baby. My own mother spat profusely on my hair to pat it down before school or church and I never got sick from it.

Also European royalty had some ‘order of the table’ guy who would pre chew and spit out food for older royals who were toothless.

If you’re ever in a disaster scenario with a nursing infant and you don’t have any pre prepared baby food, there’s no reason why baby should starve. Simply pre chew some adult food real good and spit small bite sized blobs onto a baby spoon and feed. You don’t have to excessively salivate into it and slobber it all up, but just simply chew into mush and don’t cough any hockers into it. Keep it somewhat clean chewed. It’s not that hard to make a clean blob of food and you’ve already tasted it so you know it’s good.

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Weird fact I didn’t know until I had kids myself: apparently babies are born without the bacteria that causes tooth decay and they only get it because of contamination with adult saliva. So yeah, in a survival scenario like you’re describe chewing up a steak or whatever for your baby would be preferable to her starving, but normally you want to keep even trace amounts of your saliva away from baby.

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Afternoon Roosh,

I’ve been a fan since 2008.

Might I recommend a book by Caleb Jones (a.k.a. Black Dragon) called “The Unchained Man.”

It’s basically a book about how a man can be in a happy relationship with a woman without handing her your balls and personal freedom.

I don’t know if you have heard of Black Dragon, but his work is pretty awesome. Some of his writings are similar to yours.

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The Unchained Man is an amazing book!

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currently reading The Predatory Female by the brilliant Rev. Lawrence Shannon, its also an amazing read

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Cheers, will have to check it out.

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Let’s entertain the thought of being married or sharing my flat with a woman:

Would I be able to put on some music when and how I want to?
Would I be able to sleep, eat and dress myself the way I want to?
Would I be able to make myself a cup of coffee the way I want to?
Would I be able to be productive? My work matters to me!

These are things I thoroughly enjoy. I’d hate to give up this freedom.

There is only one thing for which I would be willing to make that sacrifice: Starting a family!

But for that my desire to have kids would have to be really, really strong (at least a 9 out of 10 on the scale).

I am not quite there yet so I am not asking myself these questions. In my opinion a man shouldn’t get married and have kids before 40 anyways. Try to build your career before that and stay fit and healthy so that you can play with your kids when they grow up.

The one question you should ask yourself is: How much do you want kids?

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You need to also become familiar with the divorce laws of your state (since women file for divorce approx. 70% of the time, often for reasons no more serious than “I’m not happy being married anymore”/”I’m bored being married now”), become familiar with the concept of “implied income”, and spend some time (possibly at least a week) observing the machinations of Family Court (if members of the general public are allowed to observe).
Also be aware that women are rarely (if ever) held responsible for lying under oath (“perjury”) in Family Court.

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Stop whining! Just tighten your belt like billions of men before you, hold your nose, and choose a bitch.

I need huge solitude, don’t like sleeping with somebody else, etc. I have trained my wife to accommodate all this. Of course she gets her revenge every day, as wives have for all of recorded history, but I largely ignore it.

Why? TO HAVE KIDS. My son is the shining star of my world. He’s tall and strong and moral. He makes my male heart burst with pride.

Otherwise…what is your life? What does it mean? You dwindle to nothing? By age 50 nobody cares about an old man, only his children.

Best not to think too much Roosh. You aren’t smart enough to do this. Listen to your grand parents and great grandparents speaking to you from the spirit world. Find some woman, get her pregnant, and continue the family line, even if you have to hold your nose to do it.

Women exist for one thing: to bear your children.

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Wow you really sold me! lol

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Please do, your ancestors deserve it. Think of everything they went through so they could continue their family line, which you represent. Everything they went through will be wasted if you do not make the existential decision to continue it.

You are half Armenian with ancestors from the Armenian Genocide. It took a lot of effort to stay Armenian and Christian in the face of the Ottoman Empire. You were baptized in an Armenian church. You may not like it, but you, like every other person of Armenian descent was born with an obligation to their ancestors to reproduce and produce more Armenians. You may not identify with it, or you may, but it is part of who you are. Please do not abandon your heritage. The birth rate may be low, but it doesn’t mean we need to lay down and die. Your ancestors and other Armenians did not just lay down and die. That’s why you and I are alive today.

I cannot speak for your Persian side as I am Armenian. However, they are a great people with a great and ancient history and civilization. You have much to be proud of.

Your parents, at least one, was a scientist. You were a scientist too. Basically, you are descended from two good genetic lines of humanity that gave good things to the world. Do not let it end with you.

Even having a child with a surrogate or out of wedlock is better than nothing at all, but only if you send enough time with them. As for women, you can teach them to respect your style.

I am Armenian and have carried these obligations in my heart for my whole life. It pains me to see Armenian young people, especially in the US, just throwing their lives and futures away for pleasures and a comfortable life.

I have wanted to tell you this for a long time, but now it seems the opportunity has presented itself.

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Obligations are for slaves. A free man thinks for himself and chooses for himself. You don’t sound very happy, stop giving advice.

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I prefer the term “responsibilities.” You absolutely have to give up some freedom and accept some responsibilities to get married, have kids, and raise those kids together with that woman. If you do it right, it’s actually as enjoyable or better than being single a lot of the time, but even a good woman is going to throw some shit tests and maddening fits of irrationality at you from time to time. It’s her nature.

I’m in somewhat of a battle right now a few comments above with an uxorious manlet who took offense at my describing marriage and monogamy with the mother of your children as a sacrifice, but it is, at least for a man with SMV and options. A sacrifice that can be worth it if you do it correctly, but still a sacrifice. I personally think Roosh should have kids if the opportunity and the right woman present themselves, but obviously that’s for him to decide, as it is for all of us.

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A whore like you has no business trying to educate ANYONE on what is wrong with the world and how to fix it. Try fixing yourself.

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“Of course she gets her revenge every day, as wives have for all of recorded history, but I largely ignore it”
So your solution is to advise others to follow in your footsteps. Misery loves company.

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Yes exactly.

But also, I want to make sure there are enough young people to keep the country functioning and pay for my Social Security checks.

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You stfu and pay your own social security checks before I take your checks and your life

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Roosh’s ego is too big to sacrifice for anyone.

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“By age 50 nobody cares about an old man, only his children.”

My dad had 3 kids and nobody fucking talks to him EVER, except me. He has plenty of other buddies in the same boat. Worked their asses off for 30 years to raise a family that resents them. Fuck that.

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Individualism leads to misery, loneliness and it is a cancer of Western society.

On the hand I agree that today’s woman are hard to please on so many levels, every woman I have been with wanted me to buy newer and better car, bigger apartment, go to fancier restaurants, etc…its crazy how greedy and materialistic they are. I like big house and fancy new car but I wont be slave to it, women have no problem enslaving you into endless debt as long as she feels good when she compares herself to her friends.
ITs all ok IF you have lots of money but im frugal, financially responsible man and i like to work within a budget .
I need 3-4 pairs of shoes and that can last years, same goes for other pieces of clothing, women need 46 pairs of shoes, constantly buying new stuff..
All these things drain you financially, physically and mentally

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The ability to say no and not feel guilty about it is crucial in marriage.

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I agree with everything you said; however, is collectivism any better than individualism. Collectivism is to become selfless, to conform, to do what is best for the group, to not have choices….. I don’t like being a member of a collective, I like to make my own decisions and value my personal freedom. However, I also loathe vapid consumerism and the selfishness of modern world. It seems like there is only one or the other. If I had to pick, I’d select individualism.

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Individualism leads to happiness, conformity leads to misery and inner loneliness

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I would like to also add that I don’t feel that women should embrace individualism, only men. A woman trying to be an individualist is a joke. She’ll just end up getting trashy tattoos and wanting to pursue a career over family. Women are conformists by design.

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Even Ayn Rand?

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First off, I’m not going to debate you because that would be a total waste of my time. I will say this though: All women are conformists/collectivists by nature. Women who don’t follow this pattern are damaged goods, masking their insecurities. Women evolved to follow, not lead. The ones who strive to be independent have something called an inferiority complex. Show me an “independent” woman and I’ll show you a little girl that is codependent to a soulless corporation, her family, or her collective of brainwashed friends.

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True enough, but a man doesn’t have to marry all of them in their collective madness. Only one. If, for example, you value frugality, there is a woman somewhere that values frugality as much as you.

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I sometimes wonder if people like Roosh (and myself also) are filling an evolutionary niche. We might have evolved to be roaming men that don`t have any particular allegiances. Our survival strategy is simply to impregnate the women we come across in our lives. My French-Serbian grandfather succeeded in spawning at least 50 children this way, but probably a lot more that we don`t know of. (My dad has step brothers and sisters all over the planet.) Had it not been for contraceptives this strategy would have yielded men like myself a lot of offspring, now it`s only gangbangers and beta simps with poor genetics that breed. Sad!

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“My French-Serbian grandfather succeeded in spawning at least 50 children this way…”

Cool (fake) story, bro.

“now it`s only gangbangers and beta simps with poor genetics that breed. Sad!”

No, it’s actually a lot of men from different walks of life and occupations, with varying degrees of IQ, who breed. Are you that ignorant?

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-Just dealing with the facts bro. You`re not exactly the most logical person I`ve come across though. (No offense) There are of course men of all walks of life breeding, but what was implied in my statement (obviously) was that criminal offenders and lower IQ people are breeding more than higher IQ/genetically fortunate people. (In the developed world) There is also a somewhat controversial race element to this issue. Are you saying that middle class (educated) whites, trailer trash whites and Hispanic inner city thugs are breeding at the same rates? That is simply not true. Not even close.

-As for my Grandfather, I can`t prove that so, but I really don`t care whether you think it`s a fake story or not.

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I totalt believe it. There are africans having 100 children. There are known cases of up to 200 children. Its easy to make children if u start young and keep going.

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The question is whether you want quantity or quality (quality meaning a small number of children, raised conscientiously). In other words, r strategy versus K strategy.

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Great comment though. Of course some men were always loaners. Some guys like adventure and conquering. Others like to nest.

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Throughout history only 40% men and 80% of women procreated.

There were always small elites, ‘chads’ who banged most women, its not surprising women tend to gravitate towards top 20%.

Before it was easier to be a Chad, as long as you didn’t die in wars or at work you had a chance to bang, nowadays its far more competitive, nobody is dying

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That’s one of those supposed pearls of wisdom that I find fault with. Perhaps this was more true in ancient times and now we are reverting back to this sort of thing. However, for a long time I don’t think this held true.

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“Throughout history only 40% men and 80% of women procreated.”

Source?

“There were always small elites, ‘chads’ who banged most women…”

Again, source?

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80/40 is mearurable with 80% females and 40% males passing on mitochondrial DNA. DNA passes on automatically but the level of civilization is a function of how well the patriarchal ground rules are adhered to. In this sense civilization is optional.

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“80/40 is mearurable with 80% females and 40% males passing on mitochondrial DNA. DNA passes on automatically but the level of civilization is a function of how well the patriarchal ground rules are adhered to. In this sense civilization is optional.”

You didn’t give a source, you just made something up. Still not tired of exposing your lies.

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If you were that intelligent, you would be explaining the major points for each link and how and why that applies to the conversation.

You are way out of your league here.

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No, YOU are way out of your league.

I win, because I put “you” in all caps. Unless you reply with a sentence stating your opinion on our relative leagues with the entire sentence in all caps. Perhaps underlined, or even followed by multiple exclamation marks. But you wouldn’t dare.

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The train is fine, positron1, the train is fine.

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A book called Sapiens compares this same pattern to other primates. Seems legit

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But have you compared humans to lobsters lately?

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Tells us more, Mr. Nye!

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Does an era in which a larger percentage of men died young sound like the “good old days”? Doesn’t sound very good to me!

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Most importantly, is the fact that you have no legal authority in a marriage today, and you risk losing everything if she gets bored.

Like you mentioned in an older post, without a societal structure that enforces patriarchy, a man can’t be an “alpha oasis” to a woman as long as she knows shes free to leave and whore around.

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“Most importantly, is the fact that you have no legal authority in a marriage today, and you risk losing everything if she gets bored.”

Of course men have legal authority in marriage. It may not be what YOU prefer or desire, but take it up with your local politician.

“Like you mentioned in an older post, without a societal structure that enforces patriarchy…”

Just. Stop. Now. Patriarchy is NEVER coming back. You lamenting about it is simply gamma personified.

“a man can’t be an “alpha oasis” to a woman as long as she knows shes free to leave and whore around.”

Married men clearly are alphas, and women do not generally act in the manner you think they do.

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Just. Stop. Now. Patriarchy is NEVER coming back. You lamenting about it is simply gamma personified.

Other than male feminists and women, why would any man cheering & rooting for the collapse of patriarchy?

Patriarchy will reassert itself if civilization collapses, nay, make it if gynocentric government collapses. #Taleban #ISIS #BokoHaram #bringbackourgirls LOL

BTW, I heard that currently lotsa smart and “empowered” female teachers and female doctors from Venezuela are sucking cocks for 15 bucks at Colombia. #bordercrossers

Married men clearly are alphas

I guess the Muslims have been right all along, JC absolutely can’t possibly be the son of God. Heck, JC clearly wasn’t even an alpha man as evidenced by His non-existent marriage. Also, if we are to factor in that JC also had no interest AT ALL in ONS with women then He was either Sir Gay Mcfaggot or simply the greatest MGTOW that ever lived.

Now contrasts the never-got-laid-in-His-whole-goddamned-life JC with Muhammad who had multiple wives, little wonder why Muslims think that Muhammad was the much superior man between the two.

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OTOH, there’s this theory that JC WAS married, at least in a common-law sense.

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Yeah, there’s also this theory that JC was actually a masculine-presenting transgender lesbian. #metoo

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Patriarchy is NEVER coming back

This Greek letter bullshit you clowns like to play with is a load of horse shit, but you are right. “The Patriarchy,” such as it was in the recent past, is never coming back.

In fact the remains of what women term “The Patriarchy are going to be leveled over the next decade or so. After they complete the job, the remaining rubble is going to be reconstructed in some form of socialism for all and evil white men are going to be punished for their crimes – by the institution of rules to disadvantage them in business, the professions, and life generally; and those with any money or property are probably going to be paying some sort of over reparations tax as well.

If you can’t look around and see all that coming then you need to open your eyes and smell the coffee, to mix a couple of metaphors.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the future

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“Just. Stop. Now. Patriarchy is NEVER coming back.”
Sure it will. It’s the natural order. Everything else has been designed to negate that artificially. When societies break down, it is a patriarchal system that rebuilds it. Eventually there will be massive natural catastrophe or WWIII that will break all this artificial meddling down, and it will be the patriarchal systems that will rebuild. It’s cyclical.

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“Eventually there will be massive natural catastrophe or WWIII that will break all this artificial meddling down, and it will be the patriarchal systems that will rebuild. It’s cyclical.”

You really have been bamboozled here.

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Not at all. How often do you see women coming to the rescue in war or natural disasters?

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Listen ya creep, women kick creepy men’s asses and save lives all the foookkeeen time……..in movies.

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“patriarchy is never going to come back”

Eventually the west is going to collapse. Patriarchy is the natural order of man, and when women no longer have government subsidies and policies that enable them to be ‘independent’ they will naturally revert back to basics. It’s just a matter of when. The west is however nearing the end of it’s economic life cycle.

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Pre-nups help, too.

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Not necessarily. Depending on the state you’re in, judges are more than likely to overrule them if they deem it “unfair” to the woman.

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Build the (pillow) wall !

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…and make it fart proof.

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https://www.christendom.edu/campus-life/student-activities-clubs/

farm girls…check. traditional…check…shy? yes, some. lost of homeschooled girls…oh yeah convert or reup your orthodox roots. Institute of Catholic Culture is run by an orthodox priest most of the lecturers are out of Christendom. good luck…

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go islamic, you got roots in iran right?

I think you can find most of what you need in rural Iran.

Provided it doesn’t get overthrown

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And provided you can find rural Iranians who will not reject you as an invader from the West.

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fuck off lisa he’s part iranian he’ll be fine

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I tick the box on at least three of these. I thought I was the only one!

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Don’t forget: Millions of men before you did the deed with the women which brought all of us happy asses. And you are here at this forum to be able to put in your thoughts and opinions down in a blogroll that men before us did not have. They just handled their shit. No way in hell I would trade my son, daughter, and soon third to be child for anything in the world. That’s my opinion and I hope Roosh you ultimately find someone; or not. Ultimately just be you happy/content with your life.

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You dont lose a lot…except “relatively” easy accessible sex when you are horny, I don’t see any other substantial reason for a free man to get married..

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“I don’t see any other substantial reason for a free man to get married.”

It’s called offspring and a stable home. Now that I think about it, it’s probably best you don’t get hitched up. Let the real men do the heavy lifting when it comes to building civilization.

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How many couples do you want to show you that they have exactly what you wish for and they just survive with antidepressants? Leave your rigid, old fashioned way of thinking away from here and just be a little bit more open minded, real man

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exactly right. everyone thinks this marriage and family thing is some sort of panacea. at closer inspection it is for MANY, a claustrophobic hellhole

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You need game, the right woman, and a realization that getting married is a sacrifice you’re making to have kids who live with their mom and dad. Takes effort like most things worthwhile but, at least in my case, it’s worth it. I do agree that if you’re sure you don’t want kids, there’s no point in getting married.

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“getting married is a sacrifice you’re making to have kids who live with their mom and dad” <- Use this line when you propose to her. She'll swoon for sure.

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That was intended for men with options. You’re likely a man of low sexual market value, so you consider the company of a beautiful woman a rare prize and something you’d eagerly give up the freedom of single life for. For those of us with an abundance mentality about women, giving up the option of having more than one in our lives is a sacrifice.

Still, as strange as it might seem to guys who don’t understand women, I have expressed that sentiment to my wife, and she’s well aware that I could be with other women if I wanted.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/02/25/the-great-men-on-pussy-pedestalization/

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Living with my wife is not a sacrifice. We make a good team. I have a steady supply of sex, food, and clean laundry, great kids, a career, and own a home.

No one is living a better life than me, especially if they have to worry about their SMV.

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You sound like a blue pilled guy who never lived much and have never had many options with women, but if you’re happy good for you. For those of us with options, monogamy isn’t natural and takes effort. See the blog post in my link above about Tolkien’s views on women and marriage to get a much more articulate explanation than I can manage, if you’re interested.

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It sounds more like you have a crappy wife than that you’re
so high value that you had trouble manning up and starting a family.

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I don’t know your wife and can’t speculate about her, but your lashing out suggests that you’re projecting your situation on mine, and that you realize that what I’m saying is true although it’s painful for you to admit it. Like I said, I’m a guy with options, so monogamy is hard for me and giving up my single life with its freedom and far fewer responsibilities was a sacrifice. Don’t take it from me, take it from a man much wiser than either of us:

“Monogamy (although it has long been fundamental to our inherited ideas) is for us men a piece of ‘revealed’ ethic, according to faith and not to the flesh.”

-JRR Tolkien

This isn’t really a discussion for someone like you, it’s for men who are more adventurous and more honest about their desires. I’m trying to point out to them that if they don’t want to be genetic dead ends and die without children, making the sacrifice of monogamy and child rearing with a good woman can be worth it.

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When you insult someone by calling them low value, you surrender the high ground. (also, JRR Tolkien as an example of a man wiser than us? really?)

Being a family man is a civic duty. Men who can’t or won’t perform their duties to their people are not noble and important, they are selfish.

Having choices doesn’t make you high value. Every married man is tempted from time to time. It’s not an indicator of how valuable you are, it’s an indicator of how human you are. Get over yourself.

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Your initial reply was typical of a guy with low sexual value who doesn’t really understand women or how relationships with them work. Your replies since then haven’t done anything to convince me otherwise. It is what it is. I really don’t think this discussion or this blog are for you.

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“Your initial reply was typical of a guy with low sexual value who doesn’t really understand women or how relationships with them work.”

Actually, his responses of typical of a high value dude who clearly comprehends how women work. Continue to carry on with your “options”, and let the real men do the heavy civilizational lifting by marrying and siring offspring.

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I don’t know if you actually read anything I wrote, but I’m happily married with children and wouldn’t have it any other way. I’m not trying to convince guys with low sexual market value who don’t understand women to marry. Guys like you generally don’t need convincing.

I’m trying to convince Roosh and his typical readers, who often view marriage and kids as some sort of slavery that inevitably involves horrible suffering, that later in life when they’ve figured women out and decades of travel, gaming bar sluts, and so on starts to wear thin, it might be wise to consider settling down with one woman and raising kids with her, rather than growing old alone and dying as a genetic dead end.

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I suppose you missed the part where I said I’m happily married with kids. About value, I was talking about sexual market value specifically and addressing my comments to guys with high SMV, to try to convince them that marriage and kids isn’t necessarily bad. Guys with low SMV don’t need convincing about marriage, they jump at it.

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Assuming that SMV is actually based on objective standards.

It never ceases to amaze how a patently pseudo-intellectual system is the sexual-social hierarchy. Men, Christian or otherwise, who create and perpetuate that structure make a series of subjective behavioral and personality appraisals as its foundational pieces. Any protestation about this label or refusal to act in the prescribed manner brings about a pejorative response. It may be “convenient” for men to articulate what they believe are definitive aspects of their fellow man’s conduct because they subscribe to this hierarchy, but what about those men who find definitive flaws in how those decisions were arrived? What happens when those men challenge the structure by arguing that the “unvarnished truth of the structure” is in reality a set of assumptions predicated on sophistry? Would God truly judge in this exact manner by calling Christian men betas, gammas, and situational alphas?

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Look at it this way: SMV is like politics. You can choose to ignore it, but it’s not going to ignore you.

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“You can choose to ignore it, but it’s not going to ignore you.”

Spoken by a believer in a cult. Listen, SMV as employed by the manosphere is elitist claptrap. Any man as designated by the supposed “in” crowd who does not meet specified criteria is deemed other than alpha. Any protestation to the label results in a strong rebuke by the manosphere. And who generally are the leaders here–single, unmarried men who have definitive fears to relationships.

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Wise western men think twice about committing to marriage for very good reasons nowadays. You said that you and…that other beta provider, can’t remember his handle now…are high value because you work and support civilization, and that’s true in a sense. It’s a basic tenant of the manosphere that civilization depends on the beta provider wage slave, and I suppose if you’re happy in that role everyone wins. It’s a valuable role, it’s just not the same thing as having high SMV.

You might check out Vox Day’s blog for a married blogger whose beliefs on women and marriage are in line with Roosh and Heartiste, if you’re interested. I believe Cernovich is married too. I imagine there are others. It’s quite realistic for a man with sexual options to understand women’s true nature and still realize that the sacrifice of committing to one woman for the sake of having a family can ultimately be worth it. If such a man plays his cards right, he can find himself in an alpha provider role, sort of a modern day Ward Cleaver. I’m disappointed that my comments have attracted just you and the other game denialist, because they’re not directed at men like you. I’d hoped to get some other, younger guys who understand or are starting to understand the truth to not rule out marriage and family.

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“Wise western men think twice about committing to marriage for very good reasons nowadays.”

It’s has nothing to do with being “wise” and being “western”. It has everything to do with men and women figuring out for themselves whether to get married.

“You said that you and…that other beta provider, can’t remember his handle now…are high value because you work and support civilization, and that’s true in a sense.”

That’s accurate in every sense. Again, you are speaking in terms as if “beta provider” and the “high market value” are definitive truisms, that the

“It’s a basic tenant of the manosphere that civilization depends on the beta provider wage slave…”

Yes, tenet of the manosphere. That does not mean it is THE principle in our American society.

“It’s a valuable role, it’s just not the same thing as having high SMV.”

Who defines and expresses sexual market value is not for the manosphere to unilaterally decide, but men and women themselves individually and collectively. And how they define and express it will be completely opposite as to how Roosh and Heartiste–single men who do not have children and who promote the pump and dump lifestyle. Roosh and Heartiste describe themselves as being “alphas”, and their acolytes will blindly agree with that self-assessment. Very self-serving on their part.

“You might check out Vox Day’s blog for a married blogger whose beliefs on women and marriage are in line with Roosh and Heartiste, if you’re interested.”

I’m familiar with Vox Day’s work. And these beliefs are predicated on a number of assumptions.

“It’s quite realistic for a man with sexual options to
understand women’s true nature…”

A woman’s “true nature” according to who, the manosphere?

“If such a man plays his cards right, he can find himself in an alpha provider role, sort of a modern day Ward
Cleaver.”

Again, assuming that this status ought to be desired by men. Remember, the manosphere is making the rules as to what and what is not manly behavior.

“I’m disappointed that my comments have attracted just you and the other game denialist, because they’re not directed at men like you.”

Certainly, some of the advice offered by Roosh and Heartiste make sense regarding how women MAY operate. But as soon as they start saying ALL or MOST without taking into account their man’s roles in the matter, as well as their own flaws, they are nothing more than snake-oil salesmen.

“I’d hoped to get some other, younger guys who understand or are starting to understand the truth to not rule out marriage and family.”

Only if Roosh converts to a particular faith and/or renounces his life work will his followers start to seriously consider marriage and family.

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“t’s quite realistic for a man with sexual options to understand women’s true nature…”

You mean it’s realistic for men and women who have options to determine who is the best match for them to understand the nature of themselves. The manosphere overhypes women’s “true nature” and de-emphasizes their own “true nature”.

“If such a man plays his cards right, he can find himself in an alpha provider role, sort of a modern day Ward Cleaver…”

Since when is he the absolute ideal man? Would not that be a merely a value judgement?

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Well, yeah. You and I have different values. I think yours ar e naive, mine offend you. That’s why you’ve been freaking out.

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Not freaking out, just pointing out how you are completely misguided with those “values”. The manosphere is just like the SJW crowd. But if you feel good about fitting in with a cult, that’s your business.

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Not freaking out, just pointing out how you are completely misguided with those “values”.

Misguided? How so?

The manosphere is just like the SJW crowd.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? If yes, why?

But if you feel good about fitting in with a cult, that’s your business.

Well, since you’re here at the Manosphere, then I take it that you feel good about fitting in with Manosphere.

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I think “feel” is the keyword. Manosphere beliefs make you feel bad so you reject them. Part of that is probably lack of experience with women, especially beautiful women, part of it is the allure of the blue bill. You’re far from the only person out there who prefers pretty lies. When I discovered the manosphere a lot of what I read was unpleasant and even painful, but it rang true when applied to my experiences with women, so I accepted it as generally true.

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“Manosphere beliefs make you feel bad so you reject them.

I reject them because they are false.

“Part of that is probably lack of experience with women, especially beautiful women, part of it is the allure of the blue bill.”

Projection on your part.

“When I discovered the manosphere a lot of what I read was unpleasant and even painful, but it rang true when applied to my experiences with women, so I accepted it as generally true.”

No, you bought into the lies.

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No you did?

This is silly. I don’t waste my time stalking forums for people with wildly different views from mine, and I’m not sure what you’re hoping to get out of doing that, but I’ve lost interest. Good bye.

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Assuming that SMV is actually based on objective standards.

Out of 10 million random young women and girls, prolly 95% of ’em will find Chris Pratt more attractive as a potential sex partner than Michael Moore. Are those 95% being objective? Of course not, those 5% who find Michael Moore more attractive are the ones being objective, no doubt according to you.

Would God truly judge in this exact manner by calling Christian men betas, gammas, and situational alphas?

I’ve never met God, so honestly I don’t know. But I’ve witnessesed lotsa supposedly chaste and godly Christian women describing some Christian men as ‘midget’ ‘creepy’ ‘icky’ ‘gross’ ‘grotesque’

Those Christian men only have themselves to blame for failing to measure up to those Christian women’s standards though. And I trust that God and His son Jesus smile upon those Christian women, for Christian women are incapable of sinning. You might even say that they’re all Christ-like but minus facial hair and a circumcised cock.

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If you marry, there are duties to fulfill. But no one is obligated to marry.

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Many women view marriage the same way.

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@Nicholas – If you think marriage is a universal hellhole, then you’re approaching it and looking at it all wrong.

In prison bung ape culture, an alpha prison bung ape MAKES you his wife. Say you’re a bespectacled jewish nerdy guy who isn’t too well built and the chips fall on you and you go up for stock fraud. Your cellmate turns out to be a major bung ape. What is said bung ape going to do?? Get down on his knees and propose to you? Promise you cigarettes? Nope he’s going to MAKE you his wife.

THAT’S how you make a real female wife in this world. THAT’S the real definition of ‘wife’. And there is peace aplenty in the cellblocks too when wives are obedient because the bung apes rule.

WHEN MAN rules over woman, there is peace in the greater world. You MAKE her your wife. You don’t ask her permission and graces. Whoever made up the whole ‘propose to the woman’ thing could not have had the tribe’s best interests in mind. (((hmmm . . . could it be? . . )))

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“WHEN MAN rules over woman, there is peace in the greater world. You MAKE her your wife. You don’t ask her permission and graces.”

So how come you haven’t followed even your own advice?

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Should marriage be the same as prison rape?

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Marriage is definitely not for everyone.

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By that logic, Africans with 5+ children are real men, and their kids won’t grow up to be homosexuals or SJWs like is the case with Western families.

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Or you can live together without marrying each other, this way you minimize the financial risks involved. If the women has really been taken by you, then she will not insist on marriage.

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Or you can live together without marrying each other

Beware….there be common-law marriage………..

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This works well for me. Separate bank accounts except for a joint checking. Spreadsheet every month to account for expenses. She pays her way, I pay mine. Ours is not a common-law state, either.

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No, that would be you feebly trying to make an illogical extension to my comment.

Seriously, remain single. You just don’t have the proper mindset.

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No, that would be you feebly trying to make an illogical extension to my comment.

Explain why you think he is trying to make an illogical extension to your comment.
And nope, not agreeing with you doesn’t constitute as being illogical.

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Where did you get your bitterness from? Tell us about your family situation. For someone who is alpha and proud, you seem exceedingly hostile.

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You’ve seem to have rustled quite a few jimmies in stating a personal preference.

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That would be a complete mischaracterization on your part as far as my “bitterness” and “hostility”.

Here is the unvarnished truth. Try to keep up.

Roosh’s adult life, along with men like him, are root cause of these issues regarding the demise of Western Civilization–declining rates of white marriage and fertility. The jig is up for him. He is hitting the middle aged man wall and must rebrand himself to keep relevant. Roosh wrote several books for a targeted audience with the intention to make money and grab that 15 minutes of fame. He focused on the idea that men could have sex with exotic women without consequence, and inevitably Christian single men were drawn to his lure–we are men, there are fallen women in this world, we can have sex with them and leave them because they are fallen women, we do not have any responsibility because we are men and they are fallen women, we will be forgiven by marrying (near) virginal women. Had Roosh been properly brought up by his parents, he would refrained from “pumping and dumping”, embraced Christianity, and wrote about how men ought to save their brethren from a life of misery and despair by chasing unchaste women…from the jump. But Roosh found a supposed loophole–men need not be moral when women are immoral. This philosophy has led Christian men down the path of ruin, a road that he helped to pave.

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Roosh’s adult life, along with men like him, are root cause of these issues regarding the demise of Western Civilization–declining rates of white marriage and fertility.

Bitch please, you don’t need white marriage in order to have muh white babies, you need Fantastic 4:

1) Decriminalization of rape by white men on white women.

2) Criminalization of sex between whites and non whites.

3) Criminalization of homos und lesbos.

4) Criminalizion of abortion on white women ONLY. Shaniquas and Aishas are exempt so that their non-white children may continue to contribute to the eternal glory of Western Civilization by making it more African and Islamic each decade! Wooooohoooooooo! Murica!

Will there be some hurt souls? No doubt, but minuscule price to pay for the eternal glory of Western Civilization and those precious muh white babies, aaaiiiiiiiiight?

The jig is up for him. He is hitting the middle aged man wall and must rebrand himself to keep relevant. Roosh wrote several books for a targeted audience with the intention to make money and grab that 15 minutes of fame.

Too bad that Roosh is a but a man, and thus is deprived of female privilege. #believedawahmen “Awwmeeeegawd!! 85 years ago Sean Connery, his uncles, his dogs, his rabbits, his granddad, and his goldfish gang-raped me!! I demand justice, fame and money now!” #metoo

…….and wrote about how men ought to save their brethren from a life of misery and despair by chasing unchaste women

MGTOWs are doing precisely that i.e. saving their brethren from a life of misery and despair by chasing women. It is beyond deplorable that you can possibly have a beef with MGTOWs. May Allah’s wrath and curse be upon you, insha’Allah.

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Never go full retard, dear.

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeewww….don’t call me dear, ya creep!

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Have you ever heard of white trash? Just because someone is white it doesn’t mean they are at the top of society. Most of the men who are capable of rape are antisocial delinquents and women should not be reproducing with these men although we know that western women sadly love a bad boy. Society needs to shy women away from impulsive and antisocial men. Not to mention that there is nothing stopping women from concealing pregnancies and killing or abandoning infants that are a result of rape. If you encourage people to behave like animals then that is what they will behave like, in more ways than you anticipated.

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yeah right… everybody is getting a divorce… talk about “stability” !

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Can’t really say that when the divorce rate is over 40%.

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40% is a dangerous lie, it takes in account men married in the 60´s and the 70´s , the relevant data is that 95% of the people married ten yers ago are divorced.

So men that marry and have children under the feminazy sharia law, know they will be sent to the slaves market (family court) were women steal their children, throw them to the streets like dogs and steal their assets, after that, they will exploite them as slave labor, (child suppor/alimony), and routinely torture them caging them as animals to make sure they remain submissive slaves.

Some of them will not be able to cope and willtake their own lives, others not brave enough will kill themselves slowly with alcohol and drugs.

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Haha, Roosh, you’re amazing.

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U r a dick

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Maybe it’s time for a self-improvement article about learning to eat bread of varying thickness.

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No bread here Mr President. But have some crackers and dip and sit down. The 40%/80% is simple economics. Running a family too is economics. The 40% of successful breeder guys out there could also easily manage a gas station or taco stand. Family is a venue that comes naturally for the management minded man. The man behind the manager’s moustache is more times than not a family man as well.

Still the non breeding 60% percentile of men are content never trying to manage others. They shyed away from hammering together a lemonade stand when they were 8 and as adults they do some minimal paycheck schtick or get handouts and still are content with it yet they are financially immobile and they allow someone else to manage their job and they allow others to cut in front of them and direct semen into said woman’s hole. The lower 60% of males could only breed under primitive matriarchy if they were lucky and only in instances where the woman disperses sexual access carelessly, like piñata treats to her expendable mule servants.

PRISON BUNG culture provides a vivid model for the 60% potential ‘wife’ vs the 40% bung ape group sorting that occurs. In a lawless cage or on the outside managed by cannon laws, the 60/40 precipitation rates are both similar.

SO WHERE does that leave the 40% breeder men with 80% breeder women? Well, 80% + 40% = 120%. THEREFORE a fifth of breeder men qualify for TWO WIVES leaving the remaining 80% of the 40% group of breeder men affording monogamy with one woman. I won’t figure mega harems into the equation because that’s unregulated monopoly of the marketplace. For the top tier men, TWO loyal breeder women works good if they’re both compelled to abide by patriarchal law. Conversely one mono woman is the economy version of family. It’s like 20% Chevy Suburbans vs 80% Chevy Volts. Or it’s like a typical suburban neighborhood where you see 80% economy apartments that share a communal playground vs 20% detached houses with green yards, pools and swingsets. Neighborhood designers didn’t just pull the 80/20 number out of a hat. It’s a sexual marketplace statistic that you use in financial economics as well. The only task remaining is to cap feminism and put women back to their natural grid iron duties.

So THE NEIGHBORHOODS are already built to specs and we’re ready for the age of MAN in more ways than you know. PATRIARCHAL DRUMS boom on the horizon. The supreme patriarchy is coming 2028! Shine ye balls and wax ye staffs and comb ye beards brahs. The service is about to begin.

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Brevity is the soul of wit.

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You will probably have to ease in to being in a long term relationship and having children. It will take time to adapt. Maybe in a situation where you have a more traditional, patient woman In a somewhat rural or poorer place that you often leave for reasons made up by you, work or other so that you have an excuse to get your alone time as often as you want. Have children and ease in to that as well. Let her and her extended family take care of them more initially.

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Unfortunately being in a long term relationship means you have to sacrifice a few things – this has being going on for centuries. I bet most guys are aware of this subconsciously.
You have to give up your set ways and stop being worried about trivial stuff – this is the trade off for not being faced with a lifetime of loneliness.
If your worried about the thickness of your sliced bread then imagine what your going to be like when faced with real problems.

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Roosh, I am the same way. Plus I am almost 50 and do not want kids.

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Carnal or mental. The dilemma of fantasy or truth, instinct or consciousness.
The fallacious possibility of finding a balance between the two.

Animals want you animal too.
Animals wants the human label too.
So they invented romance, laws and lies.

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Roost will never be married because he’ll never find a girl to be his slave-maid. That’s what he wants.

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You’ll never find a girl to stop laughing at your tiny dick, so there’s that. 😂

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is this supposed to be funny? back to the kitchen

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The girls thought it was.

Troll harder.

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misunderstanding probably, sorry. anyway women belong to the kitchen, no other way

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Cool story. Now go make me a sandwich.

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Technology has come a long way. Women can now use the internet from the kitchen.

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He’s probably a rapist, most left wing men are.

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funny you said that, because in reality many women LIKE being slave-maids. Just look at all the ones who fall for assholes. They LOVE assholes, and assholes don’t like ‘strong’ women. Do you know anything about women? I think not, or either you must be a woman, mr ‘just some guy’. Or you must be a man with the mind of a woman.

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Wow are you triggered.

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A few women like playing “slave”. So do a few men. (Oddly, some men will even PAY to be treated badly.)

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What’s wrong with wanting a female slave?

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….Enjoy being single Roosh.

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Someone needs to lay off of the soy and twinkies and stop watching egalitarian skeptics on YouTube.

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What ever gives you that impression of me?

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Still waiting for a reply.

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Every woman should be willing to be submissive to her husband when she marries. If she’s not being submissive, she doesn’t understand what marriage is and how it works.

Every man must submit when he gets married. Marriage as an institution is by definition a man sacrificing his freedom and income to support his wife. Thus, to make the marriage 50/50 she has to give something in return. What she gives in return is her submissiveness.

If she’s not submissive, she’s not really a wife. Literally. Not. A. Wife.

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Although if the wife also brings in an income, the man doesn’t have to sacrifice much of his. And BOTH sacrifice some freedom (for instance, the freedom to have sex with others).

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@Just some guy – You misspelled Roosh’s name with a ‘t’. You called him ‘Roost’. By golly your typo albeit accidental may have answered Roosh’s question.

IT IS KNOWN in numerology that your name can be crunched down alphanumerically into your life path – ergo the nurmber of your name denotes things like ‘destiny’, ‘soul urge’, ‘heart desire’and finally the ‘dream or personality’ number which is separately calculated from consonants.

Roosh probably is unaware that he is sitting on a time bomb of a name, living his whole life only one letter away from ‘Roost’ which according to numerology has a definitive meaning of being a semen wielding monster the likes of Gengis Kahn. Yeah Roosh versus ‘Roost’ is like the difference between a fire cracker and a hydrogen bomb. Holy shit. If he legally changed his name or even started using ‘Roost’ as a pen name . . . oh shit. I don’t know if he could handle it. Eeeh . . what the hell go ahead and shoot for it Roosh. It’s partly because the name too has a literal dictionary meaning that is in the red zone of masculine noun/adjective/verbs. Yeah it’s all three. A noun, a verb and an adjective. It’s a B0MB of a masculine name.

It’s also known that some people have done a ‘cheat’ on their name and found more success in entertainment, business, etc when they crunched the numbers of their names and changed their names into more powerful names that suited their goals.

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Nothing you said makes any sense or is actually real.

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who the hell wants to get married? The greatest minds, writers, philosophers, and artists, never got married, and the one who did, have rarely not regretted it or separated. Come to think of it, it’s really stupid. I have often asked myself what’s the real reason people get married, and I think it’s this: they can’t stand being alone, because they can’t stand themselves, because their inner world is very poor. Several philosophers explained this very well.

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They didn’t marry because they were great, not the other way around.

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They didn’t marry because they were smart, and their smartness played a big role in turning them into the great men who they were.

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It’s the greatness that keeps you single, not the singleness that makes you great.

The sad truth is that most of us aren’t great men.

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Wasn’t Alexander the Great, well, great? His greatness sure didn’t keep him single.

The sad truth is that most of us aren’t great men.

Indeed we aren’t, but you don’t need to be a great man in order to remain single, you only need to not get married.

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@Philosopher – You have an idyllic perception of hetero marriage. It’s really nothing more than a formality and a piece of paper. Legal marriage amounts to nothing if the woman doesn’t loyally serve you and stand behind you. Think about it. Fags want the right to marry and be legally recognized but it is a joke to them like putting on a halloween mask. The marriage formality to them is part of their charade. Or imagine bestiality being legalized where you’d see some clown walking in the park with a goat on a leash and the goat is wearing a wedding veil with flowers and a lace back covering with silk saddle bags. And LIPSTICK too on it’s nose and beard. More lipstick around it’s exposed asshole. See what a joke that would be? Fag marriage is equally an effing joke. They’re nothing but street clowns with nothing better to do.

And as with normal hetero marriage, the paper mariage certificate doesn’t mean much without the ACT commensurated of CONTROLLING YOUR BITCH. With or without paper, patriarchal lordship over ye women constitutes marriage in the eyes of ye creator. With or without said marriage certificate, you can still lord over a woman as her patriarch master when she gives herself unto you, mind body and soul. And she lives her annointed purpose to BREED, to TIT FEED and to service her patriarchal master.

If you have a legal marriage to a woman but you decline or fail to captain over her as her patriarchal guide and rule, then you’re screwed by the legal stipulations of the marriage laws alone. If you’re legally married and you pedestalize her, you’ve already put her up in a position that you can’t steer or control. You must keep her optimally in a base level position, not pedestalized but DOWN doggie style with her on all fours. You hop on her like she was your bike and you drive and maintain control her. It gets easier in time, sometimes HANDS FREE. “Look brahs, no hands”.
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But if you pedestalize her, she’ll be like a spinning plate on a pole that always needs maintenance so it doesn’t fly away or fall and roll somewhere or break.
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Some people shouldn’t marry or have kids–for the good of society, and to prevent needless suffering by their potential mates and children.

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If my woman doesn’t have traditional values, I’ll be forced to lay down
rules that block the serpent from tempting her, but that will lead her
to resent me for limiting her freedom.

You’ve got a lot of short term experience with women. As a guy who’s had numerous longer term girlfriends I’ve noticed that they all change. That girl with the traditional values? Eventually she’ll loosen up. And she’ll resent you for “holding her down” all those years – when all you did was let her do what came natural to her, to begin with.

It all goes bad with women eventually, always. If nothing else, wait till they hit menopause. Suddenly that relatively sweet woman you’ve known all these years
has dip down in her estrogen levels. She turns aggressive and gets mouthy.

Seen it a half dozen times with guys I’ve known, and recently experienced it myself with a long term on again off again girlfriend. When the estrogen dries up, so does the pussy, and the attitude comes out.

It’s just not worth it long term in the U.S. You might be able to make a go of it somewhere else – southeast Asia (but you don’t like them, I know). Or maybe Latin America. Not Brazil. Somewhere where the women are a little less free with the pussy and a little more religious (not giving away my spots here)>

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“If my woman doesn’t have traditional values, I’ll be forced to lay down
rules that block the serpent from tempting her, but that will lead her
to resent me for limiting her freedom.”

Listen, I get it, you actually lack any control in your relationships, so you come to this blog to show how you WANT to act, but lack the guile and gumption.

Please, stay single and do not have offspring. Let the real men embark on this journey. You just don’t have the disposition for it.

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Are you trying out your ‘male voice’ on us? Because it needs work.

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We may be working with different age ranges here.

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You read my mind 1 – 6.

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Good. Stay single. Be a detriment to Western Civilization. Let the true alphas have children and properly raise them.

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marriage is for chimps, stupid

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No, marriage is for alpha males. Run along, gamma.

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back to the kitchen

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Is that true for your city, that only alphas are reproducing? Where are you?

I usually see the opposite. The abuse that I see men take from their almost always overweight wives astounds me.

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“Is that true for your city, that only alphas are reproducing?”

Men who are married and have children are alphas, with Jesus being an alpha for promoting family creation in light of his calling to God.

“I usually see the opposite. The abuse that I see men take from their almost always overweight wives astounds me.”

You are only seeing what you want to see as someone who is totally jaded. There is still time for you to convert to a faith, renounce your lifestyle, and get your life in a truly good place. But, I understand, it’s really tough for men and women who hit the wall and want to relive their glory days.

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How is being single a detriment to society?

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Because the earth is SEVERELY UNDERPOPULATED, ideally we should have AT LEAST 969 trillions people on earth in order for universal prosperity & equality to reign supreme. Being single certainly doesn’t help to accomplish that noble goal. Heck, even being married BUT CHILDLESS like Oprah certainly doesn’t help to accomplish the noble goal.

Last but not least, decriminalizing abortion and criminalizing rape on nubile women sure don’t help to accomplish the noble goal of having more babies.

#realmenareagainstabortion

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You’re insane.

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Your clever use of irony will, unfortunately, go over the heads of most.

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Not society, Western Civilization.

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Funny, you just described me, and yet I’ve never actually met you.

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You described me in many ways. I am fiercely introverted and set in my ways. My house has to be cold and quiet, I spend a lot of time by myself, I have to live without sunlight in my house and I hate it when people cook any other meat in my home other than fish or chicken. I hate it when people move my furniture and I like to know where everything I own is. I also hate summer and I only like to do leisure activities after dark or in cold or wet weather. I hate most music and television. If I can’t live by these set rules I am very neurotic. Before I met my husband I was always having difficulty dating and having relationships because all the things I hate tend to be popular among the general population. I am however an INTJ, so I only make up 0.8% of the female population. I treausre being a housewife and raising children,but I made sure to pick a man whose personality is compatible with mine. I find I get along better in general with INTP men. They think like me, apart from the fact that they are very flexible and can bend with my idiosyncratic behaviour and they are loving and affectionate whilst also needing space. Me and my husband can be in the same room side by side for hours doing different activities and not say a word and we are still connecting with each other. If you choose another introvert, your children will likely be introverts, too. Having introverted children is good because they like to play by themselves a lot and they don’t hang onto your hip unless they need something.

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how many cats?

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I prefer to focus my energy on reproducing and raising productive children. Keeping cats contributes and amounts to nothing but unecessary expenditure and toxoplasmosis.

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Russian bot alert.

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I actually don’t live awfully far from Russia, so you are close. I’m British however so I’m an expat.

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Probably not a good idea to release posts like this before your new book, shows you haven’t matured past this point that many of your readers have, potentially putting off a large demographic. Talk deeply with other guys that were in your situation and see if your issues are insurmountable with a woman or if they have found a way. Cernovich comes to mind. He says he was a big introvert, seems as if he’s working non stop plus being a dad and husband. He may have some good tips.

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That’s some quality concern trolling you got there!

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This is funny because I am the exact same way. I’m used to being by myself so I don’t need someone that is ALWAYS there. I don’t like to be taken off my schedule for the day, and I’m introverted by nature, so I don’t always need someone to talk to.

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I love my wife and kids. That being said. marriage ain’t for everybody (especially in this day and age). The old adage “know thyself” holds true.

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Roosh, you will find your woman in the BDSM scene. You are looking for a “24/7 slave”. You have all the ingredients to be a good Master/Owner. There is a small subset of women who have a crying need to be owned, literally owned, by a dominant man who can give them direction and purpose in life. One of these women will be happy to use a wheel micrometer to measure the thickness of each piece of bread she cuts because her sense of self worth is based on how well she pleases you. We can talk further on this if you like or you can simply search on the terms I mentioned. Trust me, they do exist.

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Roosh, go to the Philippines bro

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Numbers 1 & 6 are essentially the same thing.
I LOVE my peace, quiet, serenity & solitude. I really like to listen to podcasts or simply sit in silence. Chicks just don’t like that. The American ones can’t stop talking & the foreign ones want to practice English. I also have a hard time explaining to chicks I want to be alone. They think i’m going to cheat on them or something

Number 5 needs to be an article on its own. Whats in it for the man upon marriage??? The reason People got married in the 1950’s was because of “Traditional gender roles” but to even mention this means you’re sexist. Our grandma’s & grandpa’s didn’t get divorced. He worked all dam day & she cleaned, cooked & took care of kids & made sure he was comfortable

Nail on the head, women literally take more than they give

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Gentlemen, Prepare yourselves as you are doing.
50’s old guy that’s just wrapped up a completely disgusting feminist divorce. Roosh got me back in the saddle – thanks Roosh – upping my SMV to the point where I had a LOT of fund with the Borderline Personality sluts all over the place. I even lapsed trying to Blue Pill on a hot little Asian lady that I clearly wasn’t man enough for.

The good girls, these mythical unicorns that Roosh keep mentioning ARE OUT THERE. Do you think the really worthy ones are hanging around waiting for smashingly handsome high SMV dudes like us to uncork our wickedly charming lines on them?
Once I got past the tactical interaction stuff and started putting my life onto a strategic path where I was suitable for one of these 1 in 1,000 ladies voila! Up, she popped up. She’s almost too young but not quite, has no baggage, extremely feminine, smokin’ hot, loves taking care of me, and would rather die than ever get divorced. She’s still a woman, so I empathize when she’s all stressed out about .
One thing Roosh clearly has done is creating a crystal clear vision for what his life looks like. This is crazy attractive to women of all walks of life. You have to be successful at whatever you are doing. Do this and then you will get to sort through the good ones until you find a sleeps like the dead, quiet, follower that takes great care of you woman. She will likely enjoy being treated like a Princess, act like a bitch a bit (she’s still a woman), but then comes back.
Recommend a book by Deida, “Way of the Superior Man” for getting into a mature masculine mental framework. Aligns well with Roosh’s excellent view points.
And yes, you always have study and re-practice Red Pill ways or you will be swallowed up by the soul eating Blue machine.
Just remember you are a magnificent bastard.

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“Up, she popped up. She’s almost too young but not quite, has no baggage, extremely feminine, smokin’ hot, loves taking care of me, and would rather die than ever get divorced.”

Cool story, bro. But it’s only real if you have pictures.

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Numbers one and six I have, also.
Seems to me that Roosh is introverted, given that introverts tend to ‘recharge’ alone or with one other person and have a strong need for peace and quiet. It doesn’t mean we are anti-social, we are just different. Now herein lies the problem: Intros are 25% of the population. Women, even most introverts, want someone extroverted. Another problem you likely have Roosh is that you suffer from what Clarey calls ‘curse of the high IQ’. You learned to work with it from your awkward teens and college days.

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What will really destroy your peace and quiet are children. It is one of the things I occasionally struggle with but I am so glad I had kids.

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I think historically husband and wife did not sleep together. If they were rich, they had separate rooms. If they were poor, they slept on opposite ends of the children. The whole husband and wife sleeping together thing is a modern invention, that is probably partially a reason for relationship and marriage failure. People need space when they sleep. Plus, its more fun to have to go into each others space for extracurricular activities.

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You’re right. If you sleep with her like this:
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Then when you wake up she sets the agenda for the day. You hear her first waking words nagging for some silly promise you have to fulfill. This or that, yada yada. And if she’s on the rag, then you slept while inhaling her vapid menstrual vapors. You might as well have slept with your head up her suffocating snatch. When the woman menses SHE IS NOT to touch any cooking utinsils. As per CHHAUPADI she must retreat outdoors for a week in a cabin with candle, water jugs, crackers, Bible and handi-wipes. You’re a dead pussywhipped mo if you cohabitate with a mensing woman.

I find sex to be better and more natural an ‘woodsy’ when I sleep alone. I take up my own space with pillows arranged for the perfect comfy posture. I wake with the proper alignment and stretch my machine for another day’s workout, ready to ‘woodsy’ plunk her standing up from behind as she leans over the sink doing dishes, upside the couch or whatever situation my dick radar blips it as necessary. Sex shouldn’t take all day. That’s YOUR precious time and there’s a lot more important sh¡t to do in a man’s day than hear her fake groans. Once you blow – you GO. Marriage is sweet under PATRIARCHY.

HAIL THE PATRIARCHY!!

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HAIL SEPARATE BEDROOMS!! (Aka: A Room of One’s Own.)

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ultimate solution: GO TO 2D GIRLS

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A male whore complaining about women cheating on him…totally makes sense.

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Your comment, on the other hand, makes little. You sound bitter. He dumped your fat ass, didn’t he?

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There are plenty of women who tick all your boxes. The problem is they aren’t 21 and they aren’t 10s.

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Oh man I threw up inside my mouth a bit reading all this trash. You are so damaged, and the fault lies entirely with you.

You are not married by choice, so don’t delude yourself.

You are not married because….

You, sir, have hit THE WALL razz

The truth hurts.

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Oh man I threw up inside my mouth a bit reading all this trash. You are so damaged, and the fault lies entirely with you.

You are not unmarried by choice, so don’t delude yourself.

You are not married because….

No woman who’s worth anything would tolerate settling for you. One look at you and she knows she can do much better.

And now that you are old you, sir, have hit THE WALL razz

The truth hurts.

meistergedanken
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You sound bitter.

bonsai
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I don’t think you actually know what bitter looks like…. or else you’d be able to identify it in a lot of Roosh’s posts.

So maybe it’s best you don’t embarrass yourself further?

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The real reason is you are straight up strange. And you pick up lines suck. Just sayin’.

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Who bitch dis is?

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I’m interested in having a harem of women each in a different country. Has anyone done this? I’m similar to Roosh. Not very sociable. But would love to a have a woman in a nearby country (Thai or Indonesian) (wish I lived near Colombia for the luscious booty) that I can visit for a few weeks a few times a year. That way she cannot touch my assets now or in the future. And I won’t grow tired or bored of her. Any tips or comments? Cheers

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Do not buy into the “Old Lonely Cat Man” nonsense, which is a mind virus women have older men planted to shame men into marriage; into considering post-wall women and single moms; etc. Hat tip to Tomassi and THE RATIONAL MALE.

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Ok, I’m late on this one… But, Roosh, maybe you could add:
7- given your believings, and everything you write, it will not be easy to find a woman who shares all these ideas, who you can speak and debate with about these. It lowers the chances of a true intellectual connection between you and your may be wife.
8- I may be wrong, but I feel that you have adopted a quite minimalist way of life (partly a price for your freedom and being able to live with what you get from your books and websites; I understand this, as I did the same kind of choice). This too is a choice which is not easily shared; it’s likely that a typical woman will want someone who can offer a little bit more expensive and “exciting” lifestyle.

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Roosh is quite right. He would be much better suited to life in a monastery. No irony; many of my favourite saints led debauched lives before finding their vocations.

In any case, the hard truth is that he is not good enough for a chaste, traditional woman. My husband would go for the shotgun if he approached one of our daughters. An innocent woman deserves a man capable of love, because (if traditional), she will spend the rest of her life putting her husband’s and children’s feelings first. She won’t find any joy in her duty with a hard man.

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You’re a beautiful human being, Roosh!